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I installed TomTom, but the icon never appeared and I couldn't get it to run .... so I uninstalled it which seemed to work fine, but Windows is now giving me a notification error at regular intervals 'cannot execute /windows/ttgpseng.exe'. It looks like a TomTom related thing. Do I need to delete something from the registry?
Thanks
Mike
You need to reinstall the gps part of tomtom, I have noticed that when installing tomtom and carrying out an upgrade the gps module does not unzip and shows as a cab file on the pda. Install the latest 2.09 gps and allow it to overwrite the existing files, it should then hopefully work.
I think I'd rather just remove it completely ..... do you know how I can get rid of this last trace of it
Mike
Navigate to windows/startup and delete from there, then navigate to window/startmenu/programs and delete from there. If you are having problems with tomtom let me know and I may be able to help, this problem sometimes occur when you are applying the patch so you dont have to keep applying to tomtom for a re registration code every time you change pda's.
I tried to find how to reply to you direct, but couldn't, so sorry to the rest of you guys who must be getting bored with this......
I've checked those locations and there doesn't seem to be anything that looks like it's related to TomTom. I think something in Windows is calling this ttgpseng.exe file, and not finding it because the unisntall removed it ( but not the reference to it). I decided not to use TOmTom partly because I've discovered www.pocketfms.com which is more suited to my microlighting and there's only so much room for maps.
Thanks
Mike
You'll need to get dbView http://www.ipaqsoft.net/php/trackclick.php?link=http://www.pocketpcsoft.net/zips/dbview.zip&id=299 and remove the entry in the DB_notification_events
I've not searched the whole thing but I'm pretty sure it's the only one.
After reading may threads on here about people not being able to get TomTom working with US maps once they have upgraded to v5.21 I thought I would look in to a way around the troubles.
Here is what I think peoples problems are:
1. Bluetooth GPS could not be paired under TomTom v5.00
2. Cracked versions of maps or even maybe real v5 maps of the US don’t work under v5.21
People want US maps AND Bluetooth GPS i.e. numbers 1 AND 2, but can't find a way to have their cake and eat it.
After many installs and trials of TomTom v5 and v5.21, I think I have just hit upon a solution. The basis of the problem is that TomTom v5 does not let you use a COM port that your Wizard lets you set, so how do you fix this.....
- I installed TomTom v5 as per the many sets of instructions on the forums, ie copy CAB files to your SD card and install.
- Next pair your BT GPS to COM port 8.
- Run TomTom and set up as normal, when you get to the GPS setup, select COM port 2
- Close TomTom
- Copy navigator.cfg (installed in /Program Files/Navigator) to your PC
- Using a hex editor edit navigator.cfg
- Change ONLY the entry for the number after the work COM to 8 (or what you set the COM port to above)
- Copy the file back to the original location
- start TomTom
You should see that the BT GPS is now recognised; also you should see that you can select all the maps that you have installed.
I have not tested that the BT GPS works in the UK and the US ‘cos I can’t be in 2 places at once, but I hope that some of the US users can verify this before I move out mext month.
Let’s hope this is the final answer I have been looking for
Wow. That's great, thanks for that.
i've just spent the last week with the Bluetooth problem, only to realise about an hour ago that I had the answer all along and I was just too stupid to realise.
In case anyone out there has been battering their head on their laptop in frustration (and is similarly mentally challenged as myself), I have a hint for those using the not entirely legal version of TT.
If you have the one marked 5.21 or have one which has 5.00 and 5.21 exe files in the zip somewhere, you need to copy across the cabs (as described on many forums - I have messed about so much I can't describe a full process to get to where I am now but I'll try to summarise below)
Once the cabs are copied, version 5.00 will work OK but will have the BT COM port problem.
Then stick the 5.21 cracked exe into the Program Files\Navigator folder ( i did not delete the old one, just renamed it incase it went wrong) and then when you run the new one it runs as before but with the COM port options.
My mistake was when I first got the files, I tried running the exe on my PC and in the phone. It doesn't work until you have the cracked 5.00 app already working and only then if you stick it into the Navigator folder.
Sorry if this is just stupid but I have browsed god knows how many forums over the past 2 weeks and so many people seem to be having similar problems (some with genuine tomtom and some not saying but hey, if they had paid for it in the first place the upgrade would be easy, right??).
I'll try to summarise the steps I took to get mine working (these are my best guess of the basics to get it working, skipping the hundred other things i have tried which failed to help.
1. installed cabs (WZD, GPS, PINAddIn & my desired Voice) from pocketpc and voice folder BUT had problem with ttn cab as just gave 'unsuccessful' message
2. Copied maps into storage card in their respective folders (NB apparently need to have at least 2 maps to get it to recognise them, if you only have one just copy the folder and rename one of them)
3. Downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (freeware for first 15 uses) from OCP
4. Opened ttn.cab in WinCE Cab Manager and extracted exe and data.chk file and put into Navigator folder in Program Files
at this point the 5.00 version should load, set up maps and voice and works fine apart from GPS
5. Rename (or delete) the TomTom Navigator.exe and replace it with the 5.21 one from the cracked folder.
all the GPS stuff should be easy from there as COM port 6 should show up (and is covered elsewhere anyway)
I think that's the essential points. There is a lot of superflouous stuff that comes with TomTom that you don't need to get the main function working so that's why there is a minimum of installs.
If there's anything I missed, please correct me.
Anyway, I am now only 1 step away from being able to us the darn thing after 2 weeks of trying.
The main reason I got it was to navigate in Germany when I go on holiday in June as I have a few serious days of driving and want to be able to navigate easily.
I have been able to get my Germany and Great Britain maps working fine but as I live in Australia, I want to get used to using TomTom now with my Australia maps...BUT THEY WILL NOT LOAD!!!
They show up on the screen when I pick my maps but the screen just freezes when i select Australia.
Any ideas???
Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.
Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.
Bilbo...you are my new hero.
I'm really glad to know that my $100 and 4 hours of hacking around with this thing weren't all in vain. Thank you SO much.
<3 <3 <3 8)
hi pewe,
thanks for the post. have got the same com port problems and breaking my head over it trying to get a rikaline gps work. could please please post a detailed answer on what to do with the file u have posted. i copied the file over the one i had in the pda but now have lost com port 4 and no 7 has appeared. please help
cheers, many many thanks.
pewe said:
Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.
Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.
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hi weevel,
looked at your post. have the same problem. would have a copy of the cracked 5.21 exe. cant seem to find one and unable to work my tomtom. have got the cracked 5.0 working properly but no gps. pleeeeeeease help.
cheers.
weevel said:
Wow. That's great, thanks for that.
i've just spent the last week with the Bluetooth problem, only to realise about an hour ago that I had the answer all along and I was just too stupid to realise.
In case anyone out there has been battering their head on their laptop in frustration (and is similarly mentally challenged as myself), I have a hint for those using the not entirely legal version of TT.
If you have the one marked 5.21 or have one which has 5.00 and 5.21 exe files in the zip somewhere, you need to copy across the cabs (as described on many forums - I have messed about so much I can't describe a full process to get to where I am now but I'll try to summarise below)
Once the cabs are copied, version 5.00 will work OK but will have the BT COM port problem.
Then stick the 5.21 cracked exe into the Program Files\Navigator folder ( i did not delete the old one, just renamed it incase it went wrong) and then when you run the new one it runs as before but with the COM port options.
My mistake was when I first got the files, I tried running the exe on my PC and in the phone. It doesn't work until you have the cracked 5.00 app already working and only then if you stick it into the Navigator folder.
Sorry if this is just stupid but I have browsed god knows how many forums over the past 2 weeks and so many people seem to be having similar problems (some with genuine tomtom and some not saying but hey, if they had paid for it in the first place the upgrade would be easy, right??).
I'll try to summarise the steps I took to get mine working (these are my best guess of the basics to get it working, skipping the hundred other things i have tried which failed to help.
1. installed cabs (WZD, GPS, PINAddIn & my desired Voice) from pocketpc and voice folder BUT had problem with ttn cab as just gave 'unsuccessful' message
2. Copied maps into storage card in their respective folders (NB apparently need to have at least 2 maps to get it to recognise them, if you only have one just copy the folder and rename one of them)
3. Downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (freeware for first 15 uses) from OCP
4. Opened ttn.cab in WinCE Cab Manager and extracted exe and data.chk file and put into Navigator folder in Program Files
at this point the 5.00 version should load, set up maps and voice and works fine apart from GPS
5. Rename (or delete) the TomTom Navigator.exe and replace it with the 5.21 one from the cracked folder.
all the GPS stuff should be easy from there as COM port 6 should show up (and is covered elsewhere anyway)
I think that's the essential points. There is a lot of superflouous stuff that comes with TomTom that you don't need to get the main function working so that's why there is a minimum of installs.
If there's anything I missed, please correct me.
Anyway, I am now only 1 step away from being able to us the darn thing after 2 weeks of trying.
The main reason I got it was to navigate in Germany when I go on holiday in June as I have a few serious days of driving and want to be able to navigate easily.
I have been able to get my Germany and Great Britain maps working fine but as I live in Australia, I want to get used to using TomTom now with my Australia maps...BUT THEY WILL NOT LOAD!!!
They show up on the screen when I pick my maps but the screen just freezes when i select Australia.
Any ideas???
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but no gps
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Have you tried V5 with the navigator.cfg fix discussed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
hi pewe,
is it the reg editing u are reffering to in that forum. please let me know.
cheers
pewe said:
but no gps
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Have you tried V5 with the navigator.cfg fix discussed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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You can try that - but the easiest solution to try first is the one where you set the GPS in TT to any port, setup the BT device config to outgoing port 7 then replace the navigator.cfg. That seems to work for most people.
hi pewe,
another small issue. us maps dont work with 5.21 upgrade. is it a question of downgrading to v5 before a trip and borrowing a friends tomtom reciever to work there and come back change again or is there anither way.
cheers
I have tried that with my Cinular 8125 (WM5), in TOMTOM set the gps to com 2 then switch the cfg file adn it still doesnt work, i have MS streets and maps working fine, so i know the GPS is good.
I have a new idea lets work with 5.21 and see see what version map it reads then edit our usa maps and change the version. Has anyone tried this, ive been looking all over for a TOMTOM map editior, but no luck. I have all the USA maps so if you need one let me know
pewe said:
Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.
Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.
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Hi,
Have tried replacing my cfig file with the one you supplied but this hasnt worked...my version of tomtom however appears to be 5.1
Do I need a different Cfig file for this version ?
Many thanks
Steve
Do I need a different Cfig file for this version
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Not sure - I've never used V5.1.
What com ports does TomTom offer you when you try to configure the BT device?
pewe said:
Do I need a different Cfig file for this version
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Not sure - I've never used V5.1.
What com ports does TomTom offer you when you try to configure the BT device?
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Config within Tomtom offers -
COM9:
Infrared Port
COM3:
COM0:
COM2:
Serial Port
These are the 'normal' options - so I can't understand why it doesnt work.
Are you sure that the BT is setup on your device as com port 7?
If it is and it doesn't work, try setting it to com port 6 and try this config file.
pewe said:
These are the 'normal' options - so I can't understand why it doesnt work.
Are you sure that the BT is setup on your device as com port 7?
If it is and it doesn't work, try setting it to com port 6 and try this config file.
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Certain my BT device was set to Com port 7, still tried this alternative Cfg. file and changed port to 6 with the same result in that options within tomtom remain unchanged as stated before (assume the expected result should be to provide additional Com ports within tomtom Configure screen to enable selection of Com port 6 ?)
Not sure then.
Maybe V5.1 has some differences about it.
pewe said:
Not sure then.
Maybe V5.1 has some differences about it.
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Cheers anyway...
Other forums suggest that installing the V5.2 update from tomtom will fix the comm port bug....not sure however if this will wreck all the files I have so painstakingly installed. Any ideas if running the tomtom update is safe ?
Not sure - it depends what you have installed. Some have reported problems with Maps from V5/V5.1, but mainly in the US. Mine went from V5 to V5.2 without a problem.
If you backup everything before you upgrade you can always re-install..
How to get TOMTOM Working with UK and USA Maps
I have TOMTOM 5.21 on IPAQ in the UK and wanted to load the Michigan Map for a business trip that I have next month.
Having downloaded the USA Maps I spent all day trying to get TOMTOM to recognise the USA Map with no luck.
Read all the forums and tried one or two tips but to no avail. Then I tried something quite simple.
1. Install all the way to 5.21 in order to get Bluetooth GPS working. Once done this makes the correct .CFG file.
2. Simple back up the 5.21 executable or rename.
3. Copy the cracked 5.0 executable into the navigator directory. Voila ! It retains the Bluetooth settings AND it allows me to load the USA maps.
Wont be able to properly confirm the USA maps work 100% till next month but UK map work just fine and when I load the michigan map it lets me browse but cannot plan a trip cos GPS says I am out of the scope of the map.
So looking good.
In order to have both TTS and Contact POI's working in iGO8 you're going to need two different versions of iGO8.
FIRST VERSION NEEDED: iGO8 v8.32.64029 (Nov 7 2008)
This version is designed for the PDA, and as such is able to geocode contact information. Install this version with the attached 64029sys.txt
At this point if everything is done correctly, iGO8 should boot normally BUT be VERY slow and unresponsive. This is GOOD! This is iGO8 Geocoding your contacts. Depending on the quantity of contacts with addresses you have, this could take a VERY long time. When it is done you will get a message similar to the following:
Geocoding finished with errors. 38 of 110 addresses found, 72 failed. Do you want to see the details?
At this point you could see the details of the errors, which will show you all of the addresses that are not entered into Outlook in a iGO8 palatable way. You could just ignore them and be happy with what you have (unlikely), or go back into Outlook, correct the formatting errors, and try again (and continue your suffering).
This can be VERY tedious... iGO is one picky bastard. You might even have to input the addresses into iGO as destinations, see how iGO formats the addresses, and then change the Outlook contacts to match the format iGO uses for a particular address.
I have even heard that contact need to be deleted and reentered into Outlook in the proper iGO8 fashion or you will continue to get errors for particular contacts.
SYNTAX ADVICE:
not Blvd. --> Blvd (The little "." will throw an error every time)
not Blvd --> Boulevard ("Usually" iGO dislikes abbreviations)
not N. --> N --> North (This is hit or miss)
NEVER use apt# (just give up and don't try)
NO Suite # (same as above)
If you have to have apt or suite #'s AND you want iGO to geocode, then the only way to get it both ways is to use the "OTHER" address in Outlook to place the iGO friendly address and the correct address in the "Business" or "Home" Outlook address. The ones with apt or suite # will error, but the second addresses in the "Other" address without the apt or suite # will geocode as POI's fine.
When you are done, you will be left with this little piece of GOLD... YOUR CONTACT POI's FILE ! ! !
\iGO8\save\gccache.dat
You'll want to back this file up somewhere else for safe keeping. We don't want all this hard work to go to waste.
SECOND VERSION NEEDED: iGO8_v8.3.4.102680 (Aug 13 2009)
This is the newest PNA version that does not have the ability to geopcode contact POI's, but it is able to read the gccache.dat file created by the PDA version above AND it is capable of TTS. Install this version with the attached 102680sys.txt
You will need to install this version and simply place the gccache.dat into the iGO/save folder and iGO will do the rest for you.
Now getting iGO8 to reliably run TTS is a different story. TTS requires ALOT of RAM to run. If there is not enough RAM available (~115-120mb), then it will simply refuse to play TTS voice prompts and you will be stuck with standard voice prompts. To free up a good chunk of the necessary RAM install both NOPushInternet_v2.cab and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab. To get the rest your available RAM to acceptable levels you will need to disable TF3D, run CleanRAM, and then start iGO.
Sounds complicated? Well, fortunately itsachirpthing over at PPCGeeks has created a nice little script that does just this. The original post can be found HERE. And the original thread can be found HERE. I recommend reading both these original threads. They have additional information to get iGO8 working properly on TP2.
itsachirpthing @ PPCGeeks said:
I have a custom mort script that will turn off TF3D, run CleanRam (I have custom process enabled to exit Opera and Tmail within CleanRam), then run Igo8. Once you are finished with Igo and you exit, TF3D will restart. This took some testing, but this works everytime with the high quality TTS voices. I have had no issues. I have posted the code below, this will work on your device providing that you install CleanRam to your "device" and your IGo program is listed as "\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe". These HQ TTS voice issues baffled me for months, but now they work consistently without a soft reset.
Again this code will stop TF3D, Run CleanRam, Start Igo... then when you exit iGo it will restart TF3D.
manilastate=ProcExists("manila.exe")
If (manilastate)
Kill("biotouch.exe")
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",0)
RedrawToday
endif
RunWait("\program files\htcaddicts cleanram\htcaddicts_cleanram.exe")
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")
Sleep(5000)
Kill("Repllog.exe")
While ( ProcExists("igo8.exe") )
IdleTimerReset
Sleep(500)
EndWhile
If (manilastate)
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",1)
RedrawToday
Run("\windows\biotouch.exe")
endif
I have attached the script to run with mort script. I hope others can benfit as well. Good luck and enjoy!
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I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu. The script will close TF3D, run CleanRAm, start iGO8, and when iGO8 is exited, it will start TF3D again
Inaddition to the above Script, you will need to install both NOPushInternet_v2.cab AND SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab
in order to free up enough RAM. But with the above script, CleanRAM, and these two cabs, you should have enough RAM to run TTS of TP2. These CAB's are attached.
The sys.txt files attached are what works for my ATT TP2. It took many hours to find the correct setting for each iGO8 version and I am providing them to make your process easier. If they don't work or you get some other error for what ever reason... I AM PROVIDING NO TECH SUPPORT. This is simply information for your use.
Good Luck!
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
PPS. Once you do get everything working in iGO 8 properly.... DO NOT MESS WITH ANYTHING ANYMORE!!! iGO8 is one finicky bastard and will throw a TTS temper tantrum (refuse to load TTS) if you do... I know ALL TOO WELL!
DONT ASK ME FOR COPIES OR WHERE TO GET THE ABOVE PROGRAMS....
BUY THEM or USE SOME CREATIVITY.... like GOOGLE!
Hi:
Thanks for the great info. I have a few questions. The Mortscript seems to run clean RAM, and disable TF3D, but then TF3D starts back up on its own. Is this normal?
Also, is the script supposed to also start iGo, or must this be done manually; script did not start iGo for me.
Thanks again!!
The script is as written above. If the location of iGO8.exe is not where the script is pointed you 'll have issues.
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")
If you do not have a iGO8.exe in the above folder, you'll need to just make a second copy of application.dat in the same folder and rename it iGO8.exe. They are the same file, just different names.
Hi:
Thanks so much for your help. You were absolutely right, my .exe was in Storage Card/Program Files.
It is working well now.
Unfortunately it didn't make TTS work for me, but I have had problems with it for a LONG time, and never been able to find a fix.
Thanks anyway for everything
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Thanks so much for your help. You were absolutely right, my .exe was in Storage Card/Program Files.
It is working well now.
Unfortunately it didn't make TTS work for me, but I have had problems with it for a LONG time, and never been able to find a fix.
Thanks anyway for everything
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Were you using the above mentioned iGO versions? If not... I wouldn't know.
lokmeup said:
In order to have both TTS and Contact POI's working in iGO8 you're going to need two different versions of iGO8.
FIRST VERSION NEEDED: iGO8 v8.32.64029 (Nov 7 2008)
This version is designed for the PDA, and as such is able to geocode contact information. Install this version with the attached 64029sys.txt
At this point if everything is done correctly, iGO8 should boot normally BUT be VERY slow and unresponsive. This is GOOD! This is iGO8 Geocoding your contacts. Depending on the quantity of contacts with addresses you have, this could take a VERY long time. When it is done you will get a message similar to the following:
Geocoding finished with errors. 38 of 110 addresses found, 72 failed. Do you want to see the details?
At this point you could see the details of the errors, which will show you all of the addresses that are not entered into Outlook in a iGO8 palatable way. You could just ignore them and be happy with what you have (unlikely), or go back into Outlook, correct the formatting errors, and try again (and continue your suffering).
This can be VERY tedious... iGO is one picky bastard. You might even have to input the addresses into iGO as destinations, see how iGO formats the addresses, and then change the Outlook contacts to match the format iGO uses for a particular address.
I have even heard that contact need to be deleted and reentered into Outlook in the proper iGO8 fashion or you will continue to get errors for particular contacts.
SYNTAX ADVICE:
not Blvd. --> Blvd (The little "." will throw an error every time)
not Blvd --> Boulevard ("Usually" iGO dislikes abbreviations)
not N. --> N --> North (This is hit or miss)
NEVER use apt# (just give up and don't try)
NO Suite # (same as above)
If you have to have apt or suite #'s AND you want iGO to geocode, then the only way to get it both ways is to use the "OTHER" address in Outlook to place the iGO friendly address and the correct address in the "Business" or "Home" Outlook address. The ones with apt or suite # will error, but the second addresses in the "Other" address without the apt or suite # will geocode as POI's fine.
When you are done, you will be left with this little piece of GOLD... YOUR CONTACT POI's FILE ! ! !
\iGO8\save\gccache.dat
You'll want to back this file up somewhere else for safe keeping. We don't want all this hard work to go to waste.
SECOND VERSION NEEDED: iGO8_v8.3.4.102680 (Aug 13 2009)
This is the newest PNA version that does not have the ability to geopcode contact POI's, but it is able to read the gccache.dat file created by the PDA version above AND it is capable of TTS. Install this version with the attached 102680sys.txt
You will need to install this version and simply place the gccache.dat into the iGO/save folder and iGO will do the rest for you.
Now getting iGO8 to reliably run TTS is a different story. TTS requires ALOT of RAM to run. If there is not enough RAM available (~115-120mb), then it will simply refuse to play TTS voice prompts and you will be stuck with standard voice prompts. To get your available RAM to acceptable levels you will need to disable TF3D, run CleanRAM, and then start iGO.
Sounds complicated? Well, fortunately itsachirpthing over at PPCGeeks has created a nice little script that does just this. The original post can be found HERE. And the original thread can be found HERE. I recommend reading both these original threads. They have additional information to get iGO8 working properly on TP2.
I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu. The script will close TF3D, run CleanRAm, start iGO8, and when iGO8 is exited, it will start TF3D again
The sys.txt files attached are what works for my ATT TP2. It took many hours to find the correct setting for each iGO8 version and I am providing them to make your process easier. If they don't work or you get some other error for what ever reason... I AM PROVIDING NO TECH SUPPORT. This is simply information for your use.
Good Luck!
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
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i tried this and all i have to say is ............THANKS!!!! this is the missing piece to my tilt2...i have asked around and no one seemed competent enough to know what i was talking about until now...the 64029 sys text fixed my intial boot up problem and now IGO is good to go...thanks again. God Bless
thesilentnight said:
i tried this and all i have to say is ............THANKS!!!! this is the missing piece to my tilt2...i have asked around and no one seemed competent enough to know what i was talking about until now...the 64029 sys text fixed my intial boot up problem and now IGO is good to go...thanks again. God Bless
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Your welcome. I am glad my searching, suffering, trial and error have been helpful to others. I felt it would have been a waste of effort, if only my phone was to benefit from the knowledge.
Added both NOPushInternet_v2 and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy CAB's...
Need for maximum available free RAM.
lokmeup said:
Were you using the above mentioned iGO versions? If not... I wouldn't know.
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Hi:
Yes I am using the above mentioned Aug 13th version, but to be honest I have had this same problem since I switches to the R3 versions. Oddly enough, I only get TTS from "Amy", which isn't even a TTS voice, but her voice is limited, and doesn't include things like street names etc... When I try to use "Susan" or "Dave" which are TTS voices, they do not work at all. I have tried a million different TTS packages, as well as sys.txt edits, and still no luck.
I have searched and searched and never been able to fix it.
But anyway, thanks so much for posting your info, I am sure it will help others.
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Yes I am using the above mentioned Aug 13th version, but to be honest I have had this same problem since I switches to the R3 versions. Oddly enough, I only get TTS from "Amy", which isn't even a TTS voice, but her voice is limited, and doesn't include things like street names etc... When I try to use "Susan" or "Dave" which are TTS voices, they do not work at all. I have tried a million different TTS packages, as well as sys.txt edits, and still no luck.
I have searched and searched and never been able to fix it.
But anyway, thanks so much for posting your info, I am sure it will help others.
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I recommend reading the threads on PPCGeeks. You might need their recommended BRANDING.ZIP and DATA.ZIP files.
I know it is a pain in the ass... but it can work
but then again it can also stop working right after
Good Luck!
Lokmeup, thanks for the post. I found this by googling Igo8 and contacts... I'm running iGo8 (the most recent pna version) on my Imagio and of course it won't input the contacts.
I plan on following your directions but was wondering if I'll need to keep both versions available and run the PDA version every time I enter a new contact as the PNA version won't import contacts?
I miss the 'navigate to contact' from Tomtom but Tomtom doesn't seem to like the Imagio as it lags out while iGo8 runs fine.
Thanks in advance!
lokmeup said:
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
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Yes, It is best to keep both versions.
lokmeup said:
Yes, It is best to keep both versions.
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Thanks and DOH! Didn't see that part about the other card. The damn SD card on the Imagio is behind the back cover and the cover is a beast to remove. I'll try to keep one internal and one external and see if that works. Thanks again!
Update: iGO 8 v8.3.2.97313 (Jul 3 2009) also works for geocoding. You can have one in main memory and one on your SD card and the one in main memory will geocode for the one on the card.
Thanks again Lokmeup, you gave me back the one function iGO was missing over TT!
Not to be a nay sayer, but why in the world do you need to jump through all these hoops to get TTS to work? My TTS works fine on 102680 with Igo as installed, I'm using the Energy 6.5.1 ROM but it's worked with every ROM I've tried it on?
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work. I have edited the mscr to disable HTC Sense before launching igo8 (and of course renenabling it upon exiting the program)
Two versions:
One that closes Sense then launches igo
The second closes sense, runs clean ram then launces igo
Personally i hate havng to confirm the cleanup, but your choice. Either one works out for me
IMPORTANT: RENAME file extention .txt -> .mscr (xda does not permit me to upoad mscr files)
marscandybars said:
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work.
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Unless I'm really confused Energy ROM Phoenix has Sense in it, and it works fine with TTS on my phone without any scripts.
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For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work. I have edited the mscr to disable HTC Sense before launching igo8 (and of course renenabling it upon exiting the program)
Two versions:
One that closes Sense then launches igo
The second closes sense, runs clean ram then launces igo
Personally i hate havng to confirm the cleanup, but your choice. Either one works out for me
IMPORTANT: RENAME file extention .txt -> .mscr (xda does not permit me to upoad mscr files)
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rename this file and just run it like the cab file I presume ??
Its working with the Sense file. I just went out and try it out. Would you be able to create a Sense file you created for igo mortcript and the htc addicts clean ram v1.8. ? I can see the other file as a shortcut in the start menu? Would you be able to create the same one for the sense version ?
Thanks.
Next week I will outline for other Jade Clone owners how to install iGO8. Prior to that it will be back to basics on prepping your Clone. If done properly, the preparation will make installation of iGO8 a breeze.
The three biggest items for prepping your Jade clone are knowing how to turn on the GPS, a good sys.txt file and which version of iGO8 is best for our Clones. All this will be covered when scheduled maintenance on Novermber 23rd is complete.
I ask you to stay patient with me in the days ahead. If you follow the guide that will be outlined here, then I can promise you that installing iGO8 will be a breeze!
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Preliminary Discussion about installing iGO8 on a Jade Clone
As a former Mod of another iGO8 Forum, I am amazed by difficulties encountered by some users when it comes to installing iGO8. I know that language and computer skills play a factor, but if you're capable of following instructions, installing iGO8 is not that hard.
Almost a year I upgraded my PDA, a Dell Axim x51V, to iGO8. Prior to that I was using ONC6. IMHO, iGO8 is considerably better than other satellite navigation (SATNAV) programs. While most have caught up it in terms of features like displaying 3D features, what seperates iGO8 is the ability to adapt skins to modify iGO8's display. Combined with route planning and saving, iGO8 easily beats the competition.
I specifically mentioned PDA because when you buy iGO8 (which I highly encourage you to do), NavNGo or its retailers will tell you that as a smartphone owner you should use the PDA version.Unfortunately the PDA version does allow text-to-speech (TTS) which is one feature that every SATNAV program is desired by all users. About three months after using the PDA version, I learned how to quote upgrade to the Personal Navigation Assistant (PNA) version which has TTS capability.
I then bought a PNA that did not come with iGO8 and successfully modified it to run iGO8. After I became an iGO8 Mod, I helped develop procedures for installing iGO8 on a car mounted double din (2DIN) SATNAV unit. It came in handy when I helped an Uncle install iGO8 on his new car. About two months later when I lost my cell phone, I upgraded that phone to a Jade Clone and successfully installed iGO8 on it too. About two weeks ago, I helped my brother install iGO8 on his smartphone. If you're keeping count, that is six different installations. The hardest one was the PNA installation but that was because of the mortscripts involved.
Installing iGO8 is easy if you have a gameplan which I will lay out for you. Over the next five days I will develop this thread to take you from preparing your Jade Clone to actual installation and usage.
You will need to stay patient and be willing to follow directions explicitly - IF you do, installation of iGO8 on your Jade Clone will be easy!
The Game Plan for Installing iGO8 on a Jade Clone
On every platform or system I have installed iGO8 on, I have had a game plan. Basically the plan is to use the KISS theory: Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Most botched installations occur because the user tried to have their system do too much or over-complicated the installation. There are six parts to the game plan I will recommend to my fellow Jade Clone owners:
1. Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip.
2. Selection of the right version of iGO8.
3. Backing up the SD card sent by NavNGo.
4. Minimizing the number of files on this SD card so that iGO8 will compile quickly and in a minimum amount of time.
5. Having the correct sys.txt file.
6. Choosing a skin.
Each day I will cover one of these topics just like a coach who is preparing his team for victory. If you're willing to be patient, read carefully and follow instructions, iGO8 will be a breeze to install.
The first topic will be posted later today. . .
1. Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip
You might have wondered why Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip was listed as the first step of the game plan for installing iGO8. Believe it or not, GPS not found is the number one error message usually displayed by iGO8 when it is first installed. This can lead to a very frustrating search for how to get iGO8 to find your GPS. While iGO8 has a feature to AutoDetect the GPS, it cannot do this if the GPS is not turned on.
While most Personal Navigation Assistants (PNAs) will automatically turn-on the GPS chip by a line in their shell.ini file, most smartphones do not turn on the GPS automatically. The reason for this is that the GPS chip will consume energy and on some systems is a major power drain. While not being turned-on automatically might be a good thing, most smartphones do not have a utility for turning on their GPS chip.
My iGO8 game plan knows the importance of a turned-on GPS to iGO8 - without a functional GPS, iGO8 will not work. This is why prepping your Jade Clone to have its GPS chip turned-on comes before all other steps in the game plan. It is the very first thing I do whenever I turn on a new PDA, PNA or smartphone for the first time.
There are two steps needed for the Preparation and turn-on of the GPS chip:
1. Having your Jade Clone manage the GPS chip.
2. Installing an app to turn on the GPS chip.
1. Having your Jade Clone manage the GPS chip
With WM 5 and beyond, Microsoft has recommended that WM manage the GPS for all programs in order to deconflict them. WM 6.5 came with a program under Settings/System/External GPS to Manage GPS. In the first tab, the user will see what the system dictates where the GPS chip is found. In the second tab, the user will set a virtual Port that all the Clone's programs will use to get their GPS data from. This virtual Port can not be set to the actual Port setting. Since Port 9 is sometimes used by TMC programs, I recommend setting the virtual Port to Port 8.
In the event that your version of WM does not have the Settings tabs to manage the GPS, there is a cab file called Microsoft_Smartphone_GPSID_Settings attached to this message. Install this cab file to your Clone's main memory. Under the Programs tab, you will find it listed as GPSID_Settings. Use this program to set up the virtual GPS Port as listed above.
2. Installing an app to turn on the GPS chip.
A little known app as GPSToggle is a Today homescreen plug-in that can turn-on a Jade Clone's GPS chip.
Download GPSToggle CAB from this link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7VRBH5RS .
GPSToggle works best when installed to main memory.
Once installed, you will need to add it to your Today screen. From your Today screen go to Settings, then choose Today settings. Go to the Items tab and you should see BAF GPS Toggle at the bottom of the list. Click the box to have it added to your Today Screen. Close the Settings screen and go back to your Today screen.
Now, a little bit of info about your GPS. It will work best when it has an unobstructed view of the sky overhead. It should stationery (not moving) and uninterrupted from the time you turn on the application.
Some people can get satellite signals inside a building. I can because I live in a one-story condo. If you can sit outside with your phone for about 30 minutes, GPSToggle should do the trick.
On your Today screen you will now see an item called GPS with the word OFF next to it. Click the word GPS and the word next to it will change to On indicating that the app has turned on your GPS.
Now sit back, be patient and wait. If you're lucky and outside, the SIRF III chip in your phone should lock on within as little as 42 seconds and as long as five minutes.
Attached to this message are four screens showing what your screen will look like:
GPSToggle 01 - Initial turn on. GPS is in search mode (no satellites detected).
GPSToggle 02 - GPS on. Communication beginning. 12 satellites possible.
GPSToggle 03 - GPS on. Four satellite bars displayed. Satnav not possible yet.
GPSToggle 04 - GPS on. Four satellites locked on. 3D satnav possible.
Note 1: I had not turned on my GPS today which meant it took about 2.5 minutes to lock on. This is not bad considering I am sitting in my front room. Normally, it takes about 60 seconds when I have turned on the GPS previously in the day and eperemis data which is satellite position and timing information is available from a previous session.
Note 2: According to most SIRF manufacturers, it takes three satellites for 2D satnav to occur. Most GPS programs can operate with that mode. Four satellites provide 3D satnav which is preferred.
See if this works for you. If it does, whenever you need to use your GPS, go to the Today screen and use GPSToggle to turn on the GPS for you which will quote warm it up for your GPS program. Once you see four green bars, you can turn on your GPS program and navigate like a champ!
You can read further about GPSToggle at this URL and thank the developer: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html
Tomorrow, we will cover step two of the game plan!
2. Selection of the right version of iGO8
If you participated in the Easter Egg Hunt last week, you will notice that one of the hyperlinks took you to another thread here in our Jade sub Forum. Before I repost that link, I would like to explain further about why I posted this there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4985374&postcount=20
The right version of iGO8 is not necessarily the most current version. In upgrading to iGO8 from ONC6 during the past year I have noticed that NavNGo was pumping out versions like short order cook in fast food restaurant. Some times the versions were great because they corrected errors from previous updates. Some times the new versions were more buggy than the previous update.
My best advice to fellow Jade Clone owners is that if you want to experience iGO8, you do with a version that is known to be okay. As each new version came out, I wait one or two months to see what others thought of the update. If the update was not a good one, I passed on it. My Dad always said if you have a good thing, you should not be in a hurry to change just because others are jumping off a cliff.
RECOMMENDED VERSION - v8.3.2.71348
With that in mind, I am currently using iGO8 PNA version which was released during July 2009 with Gurjon skin 6p. I am basically a minimalist - iGO8 has a lot bells and whistles. While I use most of its features, I don't need every single item displayed onscreen. Why over tax the capabilities of my Jade Clone? My basic tenet is that I will do no harm to my Jade Clone (that should be your belief too)! While iGO8 should not be able to do something bad to your Clone, why take the chance by going beyond my recommendations.
I recommend you buy PNA v8.3.2.71348. Maps will vary. I prefer TeleAtlas for where I am in the United States. NavTeq works fine. This version has the standard lane assist, 3D effects and TTS features.
One of the nice things about iGO8 is that the majority of the update is built into its iGO8.exe file. Typically I wait until I know a good update comes out; download the updated file and post it to my SD card. I always keep a backup SD card with the old version that does not get changed or updated until I know the new version works for me.
With that in mind, I know that everyone has free choice. In the fore mentioned post from the first paragraph of this post, I will now point you to the current version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3325079&postcount=16
In that post, Tom Lenferink posted a link to a test drive version of iGO8 which is an update to v8.3.2.71348. The latest version with its driver alert feature exposed a flaw not only in iGO8 but also the maps available to be used with it. Supposedly only one version of NavTeq maps can be used with this new version. And then, even all the driver alerts are not fully implemented or working.
NavNGO seems to have slowed down on putting out a new version since this August update. This has led some to wonder about its future. I believe iGO8's future is bright because most likely NavNGO is working on its next version with both map vendors to get it right.
Last night I read an Associated Press article on Yahoo News about Black Friday GPS sales. The gist is that while the PNA/PDA *might* fade, the indash automobile (double din aka 2DIN) installations is growing faster than even the iPhone and smartphone markets at about 25 percent. Just about everyone has a car and when it gets replaced, chances are a new indash 2Din satnav program will be installed in the center screen. That is the future of iGO8 if you ask my humble opinion.
Guess what? My recommendation of v8.3.2.71348 works on a 2Din with slight modifications of the sys.txt file which will be covered in a future topic.
You can read about the GPS predictions here:
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nf/20091125/tc_nf/70316
Backing up the SD card sent by NavNGo - Read and Heed!
I would be willing to bet that many of you are unaware that an SD card can be corrupted if your smartphone makes an incorrect read/write action to it!!! Usually this action occurs as the result of a program making a read/write action as the phone is being shutdown. Or, it can occur because one program has locked part of the card while another is trying to access it.
I've seen it a number of times on my PDA and just saw it last night on my Jade Clone. Normally your system will be able to access the directory where the corrupted entry (entry can be a file or even the entire directory) is located on the SD card. The way you can possibly tell your card is corrupted is if you are having problems with programs not running correctly off the SD card.
Or, if when you insert your SD card into a Windows computer, that system should tell you that it needs to do a chkdsk scan of your SD card because it has detected your SD is corrupted. Most times chkdsk will not do harm to the SD card but it can cause cross-linked files, delete incorrect entries and even deny access to directories.
Your best answer to preventing corrupted SD cards is to back up your SD card. I have a working copy and a protected unused copy (two seperate SD cards). I rotate my working copy and when I make changes will back up the card to it and protected unused card which sits in a special shelf.
I first noticed a corrupted directory because my PDA shut down accidently while running iGO8 off my original card. While the program ran again when I reapplied power to the PDA, I noticed that I could not access some maps and stored routes. Several directories had become corrupted and unreadable.
NavNGO will tell you to back up your card to your computer immediately if you only buy iGO8 on an SD card. If you buy the DVD with more maps on it, it will have a back up directory of iGO8 on it BUT:
iGO8.exe is a protected file that only works with the original SD card!!!
In the event that your original SD card becomes corrupted, iGO8 can be reinstalled to either from an update or a NavNGO DVD.
That is why you NEED to do a back up!
Fortunately this problem is minimized by the test drive version that was linked in a previous post in this thread!
Minimizing the number of files on this SD card so that iGO8 will compile quickly
Before I explain this part of the game plan, I have inserted a picture of a typical iGO8 directory. This came from my backup directory which is a mirror of what is on my SD card. Here are the files typically found in the SD card's iGO8 directory:
.3dl files go in the building directory
.dem files go in the dem directory
lang.*.zip files go in the lang file**
.fbl files go in the map directory
.POI files go in the poi directory
.zip voice files go in the voice directory**
**Do not unzip files in these two directories (very important not to unzip them)!!!
***The skin directory needs to be created and skins added to it.
****If a save directory is present before you run the program for the first time, you need to delete it.
When you get iGO8 on an SD card or by DVD, a minimal regional area like the United States will be about 1.7 Gb in size. The whole world map DVD comes in at just under 3.5 Gb. The reason I mention these facts are depending upon what maps you want to put on your SD card for iGO8 to use, it is much better to minimize the number of files it will compile in its initial installation.
Many users get a failed installation because they have too many or large files in the \building, \dem, \map or \poi. NavNGO automatically includes all the pertinent files in those directories that iGO8 *might* need. I emphasize MIGHT. If you have a speedcam file present in that directory, I can almost guarantee you your installation will fail. Why?
REASON FOR MINIMIZED FILES ON AN SD CARD
Well, when iGO8 is run for the first time - it compiles or associates all those files while it is building its INI file as well searching for a GPS. Unlike the little engine that could, iGO8 will overload your system memory because there are too many large files for it to compile. The best solution for an initial installation is to have just the files you need for the immediate area you live in. What does this mean?
Let's use France as an example. For it, while it would be nice to have the entire European continent loaded, on the SD card you just need France's map, language file (do not unZIP its zipped file - iGO8 works with ZIP files in the appropriate directory), POI file and voice file.
For a successful first-time installation, you want iGO8 to have an easy time finding and compiling everything. If it can't find the GPS, that will be the start of a bad day. Speedcam files typically will cause an Out of Memory error message. Too many map files can cause a database error message especially if you have the wrong license file.
In my case with just my state, which is a large one, loaded - my iGO8 directory fills about 0.7 GB with TTS files present. In essence, when I do a first time installation I literally have removed 1 GB of United States files to the backup directory on my PC.
It will take iGO8 about one minute to compile a minimal directory of files - during that time I recommend you be patient and do not touch your smartphone even though you will be tempted. After about 75 seconds, you can navigate to the Settings menu to go the Regional panel and set your preferences. From that panel, you can navigate to each Settings sub panel and set your preferences to your heart's content.
SOME DIFFERENCES YOU WILL NOTE IN MY PICTURE
1. When I backup my SD card, I do it to a temp iGO8 directory and then to the master iGO8PC directory you see in the picture. I find it easier and faster to manipulate the files on my PC versus comparing them off the SD card.
2. If you see a \Save directory on when you do an initial installation, one of two things is wrong. Either you are working with your backup files and included the old \Save directory OR you are working with a test drive version and it had a \Save directory present which you unRAR'ed to your SD card. On an initial installation, you do not want to have a \Save directory present. If you do, iGO8 will look to that directory and use the INI file present to set up iGO8. In many cases this will cause errors and possibly a failed installation. When you are looking at your SD card on your PC, if you see a \Save directory and you're doing an initial installation, DELETE IT!
3. Skins. On my picture, you will see a \Skin directory. There are a number (about eight that I know of) of skins available to give your iG08's display extra features. I have several loaded in that directory but only use the Gurjon 6p skin. Even that skin is somewhat outdated, but it's the one that works for me and does everything I need and like. I will cover skins in another post at a future date.
4. While we are not quite ready for the installation, I will jump ahead and say that after you have a good generic SYS.txt file to boot your iGO8 installation, and have a good installation - then and only then you can add back files that will give iGO8 added map coverage. Using the France example, you might want to add in contries like Spain, Italy, Germany, Belgium or other countries as appropriate. In that case it is just a matter of transferring files to your SD card from the backup directory.
5. I cannot begin to stress the importance of having a backup directory on your PC. Unless you get the deluxe iGO8 package of a DVD card and SD card, you will eventually see why having iGO8's files backed up is important. Better to do it now versus later.
Having the correct sys.txt file
One of the more common errors made on new installations of iGO8 is having an incorrect sys.txt file that has improper or incorrect data statements within it. Usually this error arises because the user either copies one from an iGO8 forum or uses a sys.txt file that might be part of test drive version.
Generally speaking, a generic sys.txt file is better than a specific one that the user does not know much about. As a former iGO8 Mod, I have looked closely at many sys.txt files and know what goes into my sys.txt file. In essence, the sys.txt file I use is very generic. You will not find statements in mine that make direct calls to the GPS, display type, time zone or other direct system components. Usually when a statement like:
name="igo8_pda"
or
vga=1
or
sync_os_timezone=1
or
gps="nmea"
On SD card or DVD provided by NavNGO, you will get a very short sys.txt file with little explanation of what should be put in it. Different statements can put into your sys.txt file to cause the map display or other parts of iGO8 to do something more than original sys.txt files calls for.
My sys.txt files works with my PDA, PNA, Jade Clone, another smartphone and even a double din (2Din). You can't get more generic than having one sys.txt file that works with five different systems. Here is what my sys.txt files looks like:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[debug]
enable_roadshadow=1
show_residentonly=1
enable_roadsign=1
enable_landmark_occlusion=1
show_oneway_3d=1
show_oneway=1
show_gps_pos=1
show_signpost=1
background_navigation=1
screen_calibration=1
skip_eula=1
supress_trivial_left=0
supress_trivial_right=0
;max_memory=25000000
cache=2048
reserve_memory=1500000
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
shutdown_time=0
defaulttilt3d=7700
[map]
2dheadup=1
3d_max_tiltlevel=7700
3d_max_zoomlevel=3000
;3d_min_zoomlevel=40
3d_min_zoomlevel=80
3d_max_zfar=3000
stop_rotate_on_map_move=1
inertia_on_map_move=1
follow_gps=1
2dheadup=1
[poi]
poi_show_all_btn=1
poi_labels=1
show_poi_boundingrects=1
show_poi_areas=1
[navigation]
show_current_city=1
show_countrychange=1
autoreplan_action="AUTO"
gps_pos_to_road=1
[smartzoom]
minangle=0
maxangle=80
[msnd]
enabled=0
[map]
3d_scale_carmodel=1
3dcarsizemin=2500
3dcarsizemax=2500
3dcarsizemul=2800
[tts]
tts_buffer=131072
announce_exit_directions=1
tts_logics=3
priority="HIGH"
always_say_road_names=1
announce_street_name=1
skip_exit_numbers=0
[sound]
ding=0
queue_length=200
[3d_config]
;roadsign_lines_per_screen=12
disable_roadsign_navigation_mode=1
show_gps_pos=1
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
Sometimes in other iGO8 forums, you would have to copy those lines and insert them in a text file. A sys.txt file must be text file. Saving as a Doc file will not work.
But, to save you some time attached to this message you will find a copy of my sys.txt file.
Be patient as we still have one more part of the game plan to go before you attempt your installation. Additionally, I'd like to include one or two posts that should be helpful with a first time installation.
If you are willing to be patient and follow the game plan, you should get a good iGO8 installation.
6. Choosing a skin
Choosing a skin is a pretty difficult subject to discuss. What is an iGO8 skin you ask? Well, like other EXE files that are skinnable which means a graphic overlay can be used to change the normal appearance, iGO8 skins expand upon the basic interface to present not only the map appearance but also the way information is presented by the GPS.
To give you an example, when black and white televisions first came out most people thought what will they think of next. When color TV came out, some probably thought that was the end all experience. Next came big screen TVs followed by HDTV, gas plasma screens and next year 3D TV.
An iGO8 skin takes the color experience and brings it up an extra level almost comparable to HDTV - it is that radical in thought to see how the basic interface is modified to give more useful information. NavNGO built skin capability into its product years ago and iGO8 users have developed skins to enhance other users' experiences.
Choosing one skin is like putting you in a candy shop and telling you to tell everyone else what the best candy is - you can't do it! You would almost have to lock yourself into the shop, try all the candies and then decide for yourself which is best.
So it is with skins.
PRIMARY SKIN SITES
When I want information on what is going with skins, I go to two different sites to see what is on the cutting edge:
http://artwork-igo8.blogspot.com/
http://www.i-go8.com/
Both these sites usually do reviews of skins as new versions arise.
PRIMARY FOUR SKINS
As for skins themselves, I know of four major skins:
diMKA homepage: www.igo8mods.com
Gurjon homepage: www.gurjon.com/
Riks homepage: http://www.skin.riks.us/phpbb3/viewforum.php?f=3
Ultra skin: http://linknetonline.co.uk/igo8/index.html
There is a fifth skin called kikker but it's only available usually as a Rapid$hare link. I don't follow or use that skin. You would have to google it to find links to it which won't be included here because they change.
CHOOSING A SKIN
As with choosing a smartphone, you have to do your research on which skin is best for you. Each of us will have a different opinion. I have indicated which skin I prefer but will not mention it in this post as I would like all of you to visit the four primary skin homepages to make your own choice.
Skins really enhance the iGO8 interface which IMHO is the best anyway. Once you decide on a skin, you need to stay on that skin's homepage to keep up with changes and to ask questions as needed.
Skins take the 3D iGO8 screen to new heights. You are the one who chooses which skin will be your elevator to the heights.
Good luck in your choice!
Hello i wanted to ask, does a Jade clone work good with GPS? i mean does it find u like a normal GPS reciever? Finding "every" step u make cuz mine i move 100 meter it finds you, 100 meters and finds again and again, i still didnt have a lot of time to be outside for about 40min with ith on (got it a couple of weeks ago)
Thank you in regards
marspl said:
Hello i wanted to ask, does a Jade clone work good with GPS? i mean does it find u like a normal GPS reciever? Finding "every" step u make cuz mine i move 100 meter it finds you, 100 meters and finds again and again, i still didnt have a lot of time to be outside for about 40min with ith on (got it a couple of weeks ago)
Thank you in regards
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If you follow the game plan to have WM manage the GPS and install GPSToggle you shouldn't have a problem with your GPS.
Part 1. That being said, your question has a two part answer to it. The first is that every GPS has an inherent lag to it. 100 meters is a too short a distance to gage this lag by.
Part 2. If you are trying to gage this lag with a GPS program, unless you are a geocaching program that shows a larger scale map and your GPS displacement (foot traffic) as what might be seen as someone directly overhead you at the same speed - a GPS program like iGO8 will not show the lag accurately or even your displacement because it uses a smaller scaled map. GPS programs like iGO8 are built to show your displacement at higher speeds than normal foot traffic.
If you don't use an app like GPSToggle to turn on your GPS, you will have problems.
GPS Tweak to improve iGO8 performance
While reading this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523676 and thanks to beast0898 and monx®, I found some Registry tweaks that really improve the performance of iGO8. You will need a program like PHM Registry to add the following keys in your Registry:
ALL VALUES DECIMAL
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers]
"InputBufferSize"=dword:00000200
"OutputBufferSize"=dword:00000200
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
"MaxBufferSize"=dword:00000200
Before adding these keys, you should backup your Clone because Registry tweaks if done incorrectly can affect its overall performance.
I noticed that when I added these three keys that GPSToggle now locks usually within 15 seconds of the app turning on the Clone GPS. Previously, it took usually longer than 30 and as long 45 seconds.
I always stay on my Today homescreen to see GPSToggle's satellites bar connect with four indicators meaning the Clone is capable of 3D satellite navigation (satnav).
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New Navteq 2Q 2009 maps released
I read somewhere that NavNGO is "trying to get it right" with future releases especially their software releases. They were releasing new versions every few weeks which in some cases corrected one error but introduced another. The Driver Alerts feature probably tipped the cart because now they either had a buggy version or just one map that worked with those versions.
Hopefully, NavNGO learned something from those versions and is most likely the reason we are now just seeing NavTeq Q2 maps. I would be willing to bet NT released the Q2 maps on their normal schedule but NavNGO held them back. In a vendor's case like NavNGO, it has to encode the maps to work with its product. If they "got it right" and are now just releasing those maps, hopefully we will see a new version soon that will enhance the Driver Alert feature. There are even rumors of an iGO9 floating around. . .
You may have noticed that last week several articles entitled GPS Cell Phone Apps Challenge Standalone Devices (see http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/travel/main5826719.shtml - I read it first on Yahoo News, followed it to CBS News, CNET and then the AP author who wrote it). The gist of that article is that standalone apps like iGO8 and TomTom are challenging PNAs and PNDs which is forcing PNA manufacturers to become creative. REASON: Most everyone has a cellphone and more than likely will have a smartphone be it an iPhone, Android, or WM device. In essence by either using Google Maps (if you have a reliable GPRS signal and unlimited data plan) or or an app like iGO8, a smartphone now combines a cell phone, camera, GPS and PDA.
In some Forums I am part of (and one that I am sworn to double-secret probation), smartphone apps along with in-dash automobile satnav programs are where the market is pointing. If NavNGO is smart, it's probably working on iGO9 that will targeted towards those platforms. NavNGO has always been big on bundling, my bet is that they are working on bundles that will put their product on the leading-edge products.
As with any release, I usually wait a while until I get feedback on how good or bad the release is. You might want to do the same with these NT 2009 Q2 maps.
iGO 2009 Coming soon to Windows Mobile phones
Last week on another Forum I part of, one of the more experienced members released info on NavNGO's new iGO 2009. Don't know yet if the satnav program will be called iGO9 but that is what it has called in private posts I have been following. Here is the link to the undeveloped page:
http://www.igomyway.com/en/#
Supposedly NavNGO is working on improving much of the features we have seen in iGO8 like the Driver Alerts. While some users are worried that NavNGO will leave behind the PNA market, I find that hard to believe.
The primary reason for that is because the PNA version is easily adapted to other platforms like PDAs, 2Dins and smartphones. And knowing some characters on other boards, I am sure they will find a way to make it compatible with their old devices. Hopefully it will be more user-friendly towards finger-friendly smartphones and possess TTS. Some companies mistakenly think of smartphones as being PDAs and iGO8 did not have TTS available for its PDA version.
Most users like me have more than one platform or device. I presently have a PDA and smartphone. Plus I provide "expert advice" to my Brother and a friend who have a different smartphone and PNA respectively. Still, NavNGO has promised to release maps for those platforms up till 2010. Personally I don't travel in too many newly built up areas. So, my future 2010 maps will mostly likely serve me for at least two to three years beyond.
iGO9 probably will not be out much before February 2010 but I could be wrong (I hope; I hope)!
I tried to use version Nav.N.Go.iGO.8.v8.3.2.64029 (from your link).Followed all "game" steps,switch on the GPS, install IGO,but every time when try to start the program - the same one error massage :initialization error:no voice files were found.
In fact ,i download voice files(folder was empty) and past them i different variants-zipped,unzipped,in sub folder,directly in "voice" folder-but the result is the same one-can not start IGO.
Also,when change original sys.txt with your - IGO not start.Have a message :
Filed to open file:igo\240_320\loading.bmp exiting application.
So,can you help me where is my mistake?
kris555 said:
I tried to use version Nav.N.Go.iGO.8.v8.3.2.64029 (from your link).Followed all "game" steps,switch on the GPS, install IGO,but every time when try to start the program - the same one error massage :initialization error:no voice files were found.
In fact ,i download voice files(folder was empty) and past them i different variants-zipped,unzipped,in sub folder,directly in "voice" folder-but the result is the same one-can not start IGO.
Also,when change original sys.txt with your - IGO not start.Have a message :
Filed to open file:igo\240_320\loading.bmp exiting application.
So,can you help me where is my mistake?
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Without being right next to see your screen and everything you have done, it is next to impossible for me to accurately tell you what you may have done wrong. BUT, I think based upon the two error statements you listed, I have an idea of what went wrong.
Please remember: I strongly advocate having a licensed version of the product because everything is spelled or laid out correctly for you on the proprietary SD card. The \iGO8 directory and its subdirectories are correctly built that the user has to do almost nothing other than periodic updates or maintenance.
That being said, if you went to the link and downloaded a "trial" or "test drive" version" as per that link, I do not know everything that is in that download. You have to go back to my post #9 and make sure you look at the imagevenue picture link to make sure that you have the right files in the right directories. The best way to install iGO8 is from its vanilla version (contained on the proprietary SD card) and then modify the sys.txt file as per my recommendation.
See this post again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5039782&postcount=9
and make sure you click on the imagevenue picture link to get the file placement correctly. Improper directory structure, improper file placement and improper files such as a \Save directory, speedcam or installation with a \Skin being called from an INI file will almost always cause failed installations.
Your first error message tells me that you don't have zipped voice files in the proper directory as listed. If the file structure is not correct, iGO8 will never find the files which also can be problem. The root file directory on an SD card should be \iGO8 - if you have something else that might be the problem. Again, hard to know without being over your shoulder.
Your second error statement, about a loading BMP file usually occurs because the wrong resolution is selected. This error alone tells me that there is either something wrong in the d/l files OR you did not use my sys.txt file as per its post.
My sys.txt file is a very generic or "vanilla" file. With the exemption of the highres statement, there are no resolution statements in my sys.txt file which tells me either you didn't use it or there is something wrong in the d/l files. The most likely culprit that I have seen as a Mod in another Forum is that you most likely initialized your test drive version with a \Save directory present.
If a \Save directory is present, iGO8 will not look at the sys.txt file. It will by nature default to the \Save directory because it believes it has already been installed and uses the .INI files in that directory.
Again, without standing over your shoulder, I can't with 100 percent accuracy tell you what you did wrong but I gave you two great indications. Test drive versions are okay but a proprietary copy on an SD card beats that like a straight flush beats four of a kind.
The instructions given here are primarily for a legimate user to set up their copy on the SD card sent by NavNGO. If you're going to use a testdrive version and encounter problems, you will need to ask questions in a testdrive Forum like the one you followed to get the links.
Again, in buying my Jade Clone, I knew that without some prior knowledge I might never get the GPS to work much less iGO8. In being on three other Forums and the former Mod of one, I have a better than average understanding of what it takes to set-up iGO8. The primary reason I went on other Forums was because the information on the NavNGO Forum was at the kindergarten level. Based upon all the Forums I follow, I have a Masters equivalence in Forum knowledge.
If you're going to go with a test drive version, this guide is a basic one that won't give you much more than a grade school education. You need to go to school at one of the other test drive Forums to achieve what you want to do OR else be willing to do trial-and-error which can really drive some people nuts.
One solution
Hi,
I have as you, a Jade clone with MARVELL cpu. under WM 6.1 see also:
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I tried unsuccessfully to use GPSToggle with IGO, but it never work.
GPSToggle goes to lock 5 state, but no program has worked (Tomtom, Igo, beelineGPS...) but i followed exactly the tutorial.
So. I found one solution by pure chance. The only things that I made are:
A registry edit: \HKLM\System\State\Hardware\GPSState : put 1, and i saw the blue light blinking, and put 0 to turn off GPS chip.
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So I set the windows parameter as this:
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And it's working perfectly.
I set Igo as WM:
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When I start Igo8, the GPS chip turn on, automatically, when I quit Igo8, the GPS chip turn off. The fix is maded fast (less than 1 min).
(for the screenshot I was inside, in a building)
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Enjoy.
PS: I can't put image from imagehack, if an administrator can unlock my account, i't would be nice. Thanks in advance.
My HKLM/Software/HTC/NaviSW only has (Default), BTMsgState, BTName, MovieState, TaskBarShift and TwoFingerEvent as strings.
I can't see anything in this lot that could possibly load and run any navigation software and my NaviPanel certainly won't load my TomTom navigator software (ApplicationVersion 7917).
TomTom runs just fine normally on my HD2 but won't load through NaviPanel which has only 'Make a Call' available - all the other icons are grayed out...
Any idea on how I get NaviPanel to load and use TomTom?
Thanks.
KennyD
your first post not searched the forum? the answer is around
type tomtom and navipanel in the search and it comes up just like it did for me.
Yep, I've spent a chunk of today searching through this entire forum - but just can't figure out how to get NaviPanel to run my TomTom.
I found a copy of the dll "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" and dumped that into my \Windows folder (I didn't have any NaviSW dlls there at all) and I created a new registry string named "MiddleLayerDLL" and gave it the value "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" and soft-reset my HD 2 twice for good measure.
Still nudda. Zip. Zilch. I load NaviPanel and still just get the Phone icon available and all the others are grayed out. No error messages, nothing. Just grayed icons for all the rest. My TomTom is loaded onto my SD card and works perfectly from its own .lnk...
Is there a particular version of the "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" file I need? I just located the only one I could find on the web and downloaded that.
While I can happily registry edit, editing dll files is a little beyond me.
What am I missing that prevents NaviPanel from loading TomTom?
KennyD
think the problem is the same for any navi program other then copilot.
look e.g. here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641756
this is about iGO but idea is the same it gives a complete solition for TomTom also
I has asked HTC Tech Support and they told me that Navipanel would work ONLY with CoPilot. So this is it unless someone comes with a work-around solution
Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous!
Finally got cooperation out of NaviPanel!
For those still searching -> try the link at //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5789366&postcount=9
I edited the new Config.ini file sitting in the new CoPilot folder to include "Storage Card/" in the pathway before "Program Files/Navigator/TomTom Navigator.exe" and it is now happily functional! (This cured the "-2147479552" error...)
You can have TomTom installed on an SD card and this CoPilot work-around will get NaviPanel to cooperate!
Finally got there! Phew!
KennyD