Hi,
I'm looking to buy a Universal but I've a question on the USB port.
Has anyone tried connecting a USB hard drive directly to the Universal? I have a Archive Gmini 220 and I was wondering if the Universal would see it as an external drive and if this is the case can it run media on the drive such as MP3 or AVI files? Also has anyone tried connecting a card reader to read CF or Memory sticks etc.
Any rumours of a Universal with internal hard drive?
Captaink
Olnly thing i've heard is it does support but peoples who already tried says nevr made it work.
That's because just as with a normal PC it needs drivers to work with your device.
It's just a matter of time........ :lol:
rob_van_triet said:
That's because just as with a normal PC it needs drivers to work with your device.
It's just a matter of time........ :lol:
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Agreed. This picture
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/reviews/images/xda_exec/Exec_012.jpg
clearly shows the mini-AB receptacle
http://www.hardware-bastelkiste.de/usb.html
Having a USB socket doesnt mean its a USB host!!!
It has to have that mini usb socket so that you can sync and charge, as they dropped the old style 21pin connector now. Its just like the Magician with usb only now.
There have been rumours it supports USB host mode, but ive not heard any confirmation or proof.
in this review of the device they say it does host
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7031
Pyrofer said:
Having a USB socket doesnt mean its a USB host!!!
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The PXA270 has a builtin USB host and
can operate as an OTG device. The guys
at HTC must be really sick if they have
not wired it.
I don't get only one thing: what USB 2.0
means here ? OTG ?
in which case it seems that HP and DELL are sick aswell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26742&highlight=usb
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Anyone got a wm5/ce5 usb host driver for htc universal (pxa270 intel arm processor)? I'm trying to write one, but if someone could save me the effort, please do? I know it will work, as it does under linux.
USB Host on a universal will be great. Didn't know it works under Linux.
driver for view a universal as a sd writer and reader or a driver for the universal for attach a pendrive to a universal?
drivers for attaching a pendrive.
A USB host driver enables you to hook up USB devices like memory key, keyboard/mouse etc. to the universal. This feature is only available on a few pda models made by toshiba, fujitsu, asus, acer etc.
imesh said:
driver for view a universal as a sd writer and reader or a driver for the universal for attach a pendrive to a universal?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it have to be supported by the hardware? As far as I know the Universal does not have USB host so getting a driver wouldn't be much help...
apparently it works under linux so the hardware must support it
Good question. I need the host driver and then a driver for mass storage (e.g. pen drive, hard driver, etc), HID (for keyboard mouse), etc. The htc universal has a usb host controller built into the arm processor (pxa270). The problem is that it also has a usb device controller build in which takes precedent for the mini usb out, so you can use activesyn. However, with the right bit of code you can reconfigure port 2 to act as a usb host. The other problem is that port 2 doesn't have any power (but that is easy to fix with an external power source from a usb hub or battery [I use a single AA battery, (giving 5 volts at 0.5-1 amp), that lasts for 2 hours]).
hi any success yet with the usb host function? is it possible or just a hoax?
nothing personal it just seems that some ppl like to make fun about this topic and spread hoax!
u have any evidences that it works under linux?
maybe this link is helping you in creating a driver!
http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/index.html
cheers
Mike
Suspect that you will also need the proper USB host cable that is used on the Sharp Zaurus under LINUX to let the Universal know that you want the USB port to work in host mode, they are about £10 & available from here http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/33
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
Mike
Mikew said:
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
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The USB host is used by Linux on HTC phones, but not for the external USB connector
(BT on magician, and gsm_data on some others http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Serial)
Mikew said:
Suspect that you will also need the proper USB host cable that is used on the Sharp Zaurus under LINUX to let the Universal know that you want the USB port to work in host mode, they are about £10 & available from here http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/33
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
Mike
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I have one for wm2003, I not if it worked in wm05.
Yuo can try it?
any success yet??
Dont think I would want to try a WM2003 driver on a WM5 device.
Mike
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Dont think I would want to try a WM2003 driver on a WM5 device.
Mike
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You can do one backup before installing it.
I have installed it in my Universal and I have not had problems with wm5, but it has not worked with my standar cable
I've had no success with it either.. I have a cable that has the correct connectors.. originally used for connecting a usb pen drive to my lcd picture frame.. but like I said no luck with this RATOC driver.
Mikew said:
Suspect that you will also need the proper USB host cable that is used on the Sharp Zaurus under LINUX to let the Universal know that you want the USB port to work in host mode, they are about £10 & available from here http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/33
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
Mike
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i think that this cable is not enough, what about a 5v power source for the usb pen drive you'd connect?
your universal couldn't supply that, then you need a usb cable that can connect to a power source aswell.
You need to use a powered USB hub if the slave device requires power, there are one or two hubs that run on batteries so you can still be mobile.
You will need a hub if you plan to use more than 1 USB device at the same time.
Mike
allmycrud said:
Anyone got a wm5/ce5 usb host driver for htc universal (pxa270 intel arm processor)? I'm trying to write one, but if someone could save me the effort, please do? I know it will work, as it does under linux.
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I didn't know we had it in Linux yet??
In any case, while many devices do use a USB Host or USB Slave chip from a higher level, I believe the Universal talks to its USB as a raw stream device, and therefore can (and does, on occasion) act as a pure Serial communication channel (no discernable protocol beyond 8,n,1) or, therefore, any other type of serial-based channel. Yes, what I am saying is that you could, in fact, hook up a Serial ATA hard disk to an RS232 or USB port directly, so long as the device with the port has low enough level access to the port to absolutely control the data I/O.
The problem you face, however, is that to use the USB port as if the device were the host, you would first need to remove or disable whatever makes it work as the slave. In Windows Mobile that's really not an easy job given the number of different devices and different drivers, some with USB chips, some without... On many devices I can imagine that doing that alone would really bugger up general operation. What happens, for example, to ActiveSync when you suddenly get rid of the port it usually talks to for sync?
Mikew said:
You need to use a powered USB hub if the slave device requires power, there are one or two hubs that run on batteries so you can still be mobile.
You will need a hub if you plan to use more than 1 USB device at the same time.
Mike
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Some USB devices have batteries, or have their own power supply You can also get USB cables with an extra (mains or battery) feed wired to the USB's power lines in parallel.
whatever happened to this thread?
allmycrud have you seen the thread from Zeno with USB host drivers?
there is at least one report of it working on a Universal, but I can't get it working on wm6.1... still have hopes though, as all reports suggest that USB host is possible on a uni... can never get verification from anyone though...
Hello,
I use Jungo's WinDriver USB to allow my software to communicate with various digital cameras. It works on every USB host equipped Pocket PC except the X7500, any ideas as to what HTC has done differently with this model? I`ve tested under both the standard WM5 ROM and the 2.19 WM6 ROM with the same results. The driver detects the first attach and detach, but not the subsequent ones. Any ideas would be much appreciated before I FedEx my poor X7500 half way around to world to Jungo..
do you have the 4in1 cable? That has a host mode usb port on it!
No need for funny software. The port on the side (miniusb) is not host, but the one on the 4in1 cable is I beleive.
Kick me anyone if im talking out my bumcrack.
I have the 4 in one cable WinDriver is an SDK that allows user mode software to talk to USB devices without writing full device drivers. In my case, it allows me to develop drivers for Canon and Nikon cameras that Windows CE does not otherwise support.
Please excuse my ignorance here, but does this mean i could plug a external hard drive in and read/write to it?
Thanks in advance
The pilgrim
Yes, I have plugged in USB thumb drives and they are recognized. Power drain is the issue with external USB drives. If you have one with external power input, it should work. I may be testing this shortly. I will repost once I have some deffinitive results.
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Please excuse my ignorance here, but does this mean i could plug a external hard drive in and read/write to it?
Thanks in advance
The pilgrim
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Not all. Some will work, some will experience compatibility issues, and some will have problems due to power consumption. The best way to find out is test it with the host cable attached and see. If the device doesn't initially work try a few things first....try plugging it in to a power source if it's capable of that, try soft reset while device is plugged in, etc. After trying a few different things, let us know the results and what model you have. Maybe post it to the peripheral compatibility thread. Thanks!
I have bought HTC 4 in 1 CABLE and another 4 in 1 usb from poundland and both work perfectly when you connect external pen drives and mouse.
Hi everyone has anyone tried pugging anything into the usb port like an external hard drive, mouse or keyboard anyone have any luck with it?
interesting question
if i could find a female USB to male micro USB adapter, then i could try this out
anyone know if any where shells one of those?
It's an USB output, not input.
I assume. You would probably need some converter in between?
opica said:
It's an USB output, not input.
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not quire... else how do you explain being able to charge
also being able to move files into the phone via USB?
also sync data
etc
etc
Exactly, usually you have a software on both ends, where the disk device doesn't necessarily has it.
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I'm just guessing
I'm looking for the new instructions for this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497
I can't find any of the downloads as the links lead to a 404 Error. Which means cant be found. So does anyone have these files still?
Nook Color Tweaks has a host mode toggle.
Pretty much any of the newish Roms will have USB host mode. I don't know about the webcam part (and don't have the right usb adapter to test it.
gallahad2000 said:
Nook Color Tweaks[/URL] has a host mode toggle.
Pretty much any of the newish Roms will have USB host mode. I don't know about the webcam part (and don't have the right usb adapter to test it.
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Thanks will try this, I installed the app, so should I just enable USB HOST MODE, then use this piece USB 2.0 A Female to Micro-B Male Adapter to connect my usb keyboard in? and it should process it? sorry noob here
If you are going to be able to get it to work at all you will likely need a powered hub as well.....