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Yes it's true people. Check this web link to get the number to call them! or call 150 and ask for upgrades if your with T-Mobile already. They only have 350 in stock at the moment, so hurry.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6161.html
Mine's coming tomorrow!
mackaby007 said:
Yes it's true people. Check this web link to get the number to call them! or call 150 and ask for upgrades if your with T-Mobile already. They only have 350 in stock at the moment, so hurry.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6161.html
Mine's coming tomorrow!
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Yes, i can confirm that is true!!!!!! Nice, english ROM is comming soon.
But here is the bad news, you can only get the T-mobile Ameo with contract, which is £50 pounds upward, nothing less, and it's lock to T-mobile UK as well. I have ask them whether we can just buy the machine without contact in the future, they say no, they won't sell it without the contract. And it will all be lock to T-mobile UK as well.
So i guess for people who don't want to sign up contract or do not live in UK, HTC Advantage and DOPOD U1000 is your only choose.
BTW, mackaby007, HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOURS IS COMMING
do you mind telling us how much you pay? did you do a upgrade or sign up another contract? what do you have to pay per month?
English ROM coming soon...
wu5262 said:
Yes, i can confirm that is true!!!!!! Nice, english ROM is comming soon.
But here is the bad news, you can only get the T-mobile Ameo with contract, which is £50 pounds upward, nothing less, and it's lock to T-mobile UK as well. I have ask them whether we can just buy the machine without contact in the future, they say no, they won't sell it without the contract. And it will all be lock to T-mobile UK as well.
So i guess for people who don't want to sign up contract or do not live in UK, HTC Advantage and DOPOD U1000 is your only choose.
BTW, mackaby007, HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOURS IS COMMING
do you mind telling us how much you pay? did you do a upgrade or sign up another contract? what do you have to pay per month?
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Hi Wu. Thanks.
Went for the upgrade, low tariff costs about 12.50 per month, but even on higher tariff, the price of the unit remains the same £389.99 Not exactly cheap, but cheaper for me than any other option.
As for it being locked, it's only a matter of time before the gurus on this site get a simunlock.exe together (not that I personally need it at the moment as I'm with T-Mob anyway).
My wife and I went for the Flex 50 anyway as she wants more minutes etc and I want the device, so everyones happy.
As for the English ROM, need someone like Pof to give me instructions on how to extract it for everyone else. I'll PM him if no one else comes forward to resolve this, but I haven't got the Ameo in my hands yet...tomorrow.
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Yes, i can confirm that is true!!!!!! Nice, english ROM is comming soon.
But here is the bad news, you can only get the T-mobile Ameo with contract, which is £50 pounds upward, nothing less, and it's lock to T-mobile UK as well. I have ask them whether we can just buy the machine without contact in the future, they say no, they won't sell it without the contract. And it will all be lock to T-mobile UK as well.
So i guess for people who don't want to sign up contract or do not live in UK, HTC Advantage and DOPOD U1000 is your only choose.
BTW, mackaby007, HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOURS IS COMMING
do you mind telling us how much you pay? did you do a upgrade or sign up another contract? what do you have to pay per month?
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Thats right! Unfortunately only on contract. Body is just like dopod except silverish right?
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Thats right! Unfortunately only on contract. Body is just like dopod except silverish right?
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no it's a bit different, but not that much
We need english ROM asap. Pls., help us.
I must say if you are not going for upgrades, so you sign up a new contract to get Ameo, it's rather expensive......don't understand why the minimum contract is £50 for Ameo, (even you have to pay more on device) some people just don't make that much call..
I forgot to ask whether is a 1 year contract or 2 years,
1 year contract: 12x50=600 ------->Can buy you a Athena
2 year contract: 24x50=1200------->Can buy you 2 Athena
Hopefully they will adjust their policy in the future.
btw, i think the info i heard from T-mobile is a bit un-true, i heard a few different version now, so i suggest people who want to sign up contract with them double check by phoning them. Once thing remain true is Athena will not be available unlock and without contract. (unlocking shouldn't be a problem in the future by the way)
wu5262 said:
I must say if you are not going for upgrades, so you sign up a new contract to get Ameo, it's rather expensive......don't understand why the minimum contract is £50 for Ameo, (even you have to pay more on device) some people just don't make that much call..
I forgot to ask whether is a 1 year contract or 2 years,
1 year contract: 12x50=600 ------->Can buy you a Athena
2 year contract: 24x50=1200------->Can buy you 2 Athena
Hopefully they will adjust their policy in the future.
btw, i think the info i heard from T-mobile is a bit un-true, i heard a few different version now, so i suggest people who want to sign up contract with them double check by phoning them. Once thing remain true is Athena will not be available unlock and without contract. (unlocking shouldn't be a problem in the future by the way)
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There is a lot of stuff going around about T-Mobiles pricing. My cousin just ordered his one and he had no contract with them. He paid £309.99 and got an 18 month contract on Flext 25 + Web n Walk @ £7.50 pm.
So he's paying £32.50 (£585.00) + £310.00 for device = £895.00 with lots of minutes and 3GB download limit for each month!
HTC want £700.00+ just for the phone! If you live in the UK, the choice is an obvious one, but for outside of UK, I would recommend the Dopod and apply the English ROM when its available (soon) = £600.00 + shipping.
UK people bear in mind, that T-Mobiles aggressive pricing always comes down after just a few weeks due to popular demand etc. So if you can wait...you will get it cheaper for sure.
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There is a lot of stuff going around about T-Mobiles pricing. My cousin just ordered his one and he had no contract with them. He paid £309.99 and got an 18 month contract on Flext 25 + Web n Walk @ £7.50 pm.
So he's paying £32.50 (£585.00) + £310.00 for device = £895.00 with lots of minutes and 3GB download limit for each month!
HTC want £700.00+ just for the phone! If you live in the UK, the choice is an obvious one, but for outside of UK, I would recommend the Dopod and apply the English ROM when its available (soon) = £600.00 + shipping.
UK people bear in mind, that T-Mobiles aggressive pricing always comes down after just a few weeks due to popular demand etc. So if you can wait...you will get it cheaper for sure.
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yes, agree with you there, only consider the HTC Advantage if you really want the black one. UK people should consider T-mobile Ameo if you don't mind signing up a contract with them, the rest should then consider Dopod u1000 since it's English ROM is comming very soon.
Nice Today screen
@Wu.
BTW I saw a screenshot of your Today screen today. Lovely mate!
wu5262 said:
Once thing remain true is Athena will not be available unlock and without contract. (unlocking shouldn't be a problem in the future by the way)
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In Holland it is available without contract.
Good news for anybody else...perhaps...
OK more on T-Mobile pricing:
I believe most people can get the Ameo for considerably less than I did. Because I get half price line rental (staff & family discounts), I don't really spend that much on bills and as a result T-Mobile don't value my custom as much as another who spends considerably more than those with discounts on their bills!
Fair enough I suppose. If you look around (away from T-Mobile) you can pick one up for less than £180.00 and less.
So it boils down to how much you already spend with T-Mobile or how much they are likely to make out of you. The more they get, the cheaper you get the device for.
Hope that helps some of you.
Can't use T-Mobile - unfortunately
Desperate to switch from my Universal but alas T-Mobile coverage is next to useless in SW Scotland. I have to wait until Vodafone bring out a version. Anyone have any informed opinion when this might happen?
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Desperate to switch from my Universal but alas T-Mobile coverage is next to useless in SW Scotland. I have to wait until Vodafone bring out a version. Anyone have any informed opinion when this might happen?
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Vodafone will "not" bring out this phone, only available as T-mobile, Dopod u1000 and HTC Advantage
wu5262 said:
Vodafone will "not" bring out this phone, only available as T-mobile, Dopod u1000 and HTC Advantage
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Actually, I have been informed that whilst it was stated that it was only coming to these 3, that Vodafone and Orange will be getting in on the action later on in the year. But I have no proof of this only hearsay from certain people in the know. Call it 'Speculation' for some, but hopeful to others.
Let's face it, HTC are in business for the money. It seems only prudent for them to manufacturer the X7500 to a broader consumer platform, i.e. Service Providers. And judging by most of their other models, the other SP's do supply their own branded version of other HTC products.
It's only logical in the long term. After the initial hype, I too reckon other SP's will get in on the act.
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Actually, I have been informed that whilst it was stated that it was only coming to these 3, that Vodafone and Orange will be getting in on the action later on in the year. But I have no proof of this only hearsay from certain people in the know. Call it 'Speculation' for some, but hopeful to others.
Let's face it, HTC are in business for the money. It seems only prudent for them to manufacturer the X7500 to a broader consumer platform, i.e. Service Providers. And judging by most of their other models, the other SP's do supply their own branded version of other HTC products.
It's only logical in the long term. After the initial hype, I too reckon other SP's will get in on the act.
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Actually, i can confirm T-mobile will be the only provider to get this phone. I heard this from Ofiicial HTC people, you see, HTC has now change, they want to sell their device under their own name, they want to become a nokia as well, so this device will only be provided by T-mobile, not other provider in UK. This is exactly what HTC wanted to do, for you to buy their machine under their own name, which is HTC Advantage. Of course, you also have the DOPOD U1000.
This policy has just been recently introduce, so if their sales drop and anything bad happen, they will go back to the original marketing mode, which is provide their device to as many provider as possible. But for now, and at least for this year, this is their policy.
So don't wait for Vodafone, O2, or any other provider to come out this device, 95% it won't happen.
Sorry to let some people down, but i feel like you should know the fact.
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Actually, i can confirm T-mobile will be the only provider to get this phone. I heard this from Ofiicial HTC people, you see, HTC has now change, they want to sell their device under their own name, they want to become a nokia as well, so this device will only be provided by T-mobile, not other provider in UK. This is exactly what HTC wanted to do, for you to buy their machine under their own name, which is HTC Advantage. Of course, you also have the DOPOD U1000.
This policy has just been recently introduce, so if their sales drop and anything bad happen, they will go back to the original marketing mode, which is provide their device to as many provider as possible. But for now, and at least for this year, this is their policy.
So don't wait for Vodafone, O2, or any other provider to come out this device, 95% it won't happen.
Sorry to let some people down, but i feel like you should know the fact.
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Wu...what are you still doing up? Go to sleep now. Haha..only kidding mate!! Well I'm glad you put that bit of 'Speculation/hope' to rest. I'll take your word for it....I think your direct link to HTC is considerably more reliable than my sources here in the UK.
Right..signing off for the night...early bird catches the postman.lol.
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Wu...what are you still doing up? Go to sleep now. Haha..only kidding mate!! Well I'm glad you put that bit of 'Speculation/hope' to rest. I'll take your word for it....I think your direct link to HTC is considerably more reliable than my sources here in the UK.
Right..signing off for the night...early bird catches the postman.lol.
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Yes, me going bed now as well now. You wanna know why i stay up so late? I accidentally change a registry which cause my machine a blank screen. No matter what i do, it won't load it up again, even soft restart.....so hard it is then.
That's what i was been doing until now, reinstall and setting up everything again. Anyway, it's now back to shape again.
Looking forward to hear your device tomorrow.
Got Mine This Morning!!
Sorry to hear that Wu. Did You get it all sorted now? Don't you have good backup software? PM me.
Anyway I got mine today....beautiful. Just charging it now. Gonna go exchange my Micro SD for a Mini SD Card now.
See photo here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=54709#54709
Later.
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Sorry to hear that Wu. Did You get it all sorted now? Don't you have good backup software? PM me.
Anyway I got mine today....beautiful. Just charging it now. Gonna go exchange my Micro SD for a Mini SD Card now.
See photo here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=54709#54709
Later.
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yes, everything is sorted, nice to hear you got yours
I am off to meet one of the member here now to hand in his DOPOD U1000 !
btw, i didn't backup anything, sooo haha, that's why it took my whole night to get it back
hi all i recently found the htc shift gsm version for under $500 check out the site
lismarket.net/index.php?manufacturers_id=12&osCsid=2fd6d2bb24445d2ba66fd82f568f60f9
Let us know when you receive yours. I'm sure once we hear from you, others will jump on the bandwagon.
That's one hell of a good price...... I am going to try it! For that price, you can't lose.....if it's for real!
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FYI this is out indonesia. The units could be chinese. Maybe okay. Can't wait to see if it works out!
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FYI this is out indonesia. The units could be chinese. Maybe okay. Can't wait to see if it works out!
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I tried to order one, but they sent me an email saying that they will accept a bank transfer only for the payment.....Hmm. I am not too sure that this is not a scam. If someone actually gets theirs, let us know.
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fake fraud scam.the 3 words i learnt shopping online
http://www.tradeindia.com/fp156853/Mobile-Phone.html.
listed company in alibaba and tradeindia.
enough to say.
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http://www.tradeindia.com/fp156853/Mobile-Phone.html.
listed company in alibaba and tradeindia.
enough to say.
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So do you mean that they are okay to buy from or not??? Everything that I have been able to find says that they are a legitimate business, but I really need to be sure on this one as I do not know anyone in Indonesia that can check it out for me!!
This is not my first rodeo, and I have been scammed (once) before...... I can not afford to be scammed again!
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So do you mean that they are okay to buy from or not??? Everything that I have been able to find says that they are a legitimate business, but I really need to be sure on this one as I do not know anyone in Indonesia that can check it out for me!!
This is not my first rodeo, and I have been scammed (once) before...... I can not afford to be scammed again!
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I personally would never order anything from here just by the way it looks/managed. osCommerce (free) isn't too hard of a shopping cart script to install. Also, when I order online I make sure there's a secured connection and I believe this site doesn't.
If you're looking for a safe bet, I would purchase an htc shift on ebay. Current cheapest price brand new with free shipping is $745.94.
I purchased one in March. Seller is legit.
Just ordered mine today. Got it from smggsm.com for 679.94 + S/H. I asked a pretty good amount of questions before I purchased and seems legit. I will let you know in two days when its delivered (or not). Site accepts paypal only so any disputes will be handled the paypal way.
Well as no suprise the unit is brand new and great. Only issue is that it is in Chinese which I cannot read. Anyone have any ideas on me navigating through it to try and get english on it? I would love to load up the english recovery partition ad such but can't see myself getting through the Chinese to get it done.
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Well as no suprise the unit is brand new and great. Only issue is that it is in Chinese which I cannot read. Anyone have any ideas on me navigating through it to try and get english on it? I would love to load up the english recovery partition ad such but can't see myself getting through the Chinese to get it done.
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Are the keys in chinese symbols as well?
No the keyboard is English UK verision wwith the £ symbol. After a lot of footwork I was able to use the Vista MUI Hacker to change the language and just flashed a custom ROM for snapvue. Still I believe the recovery partition is still in chinese. Is there any way to check?
On a side note all the manuals are spanish except the warranty card. Seems like a wierd mix.
Swedish Shift cheap
I can get my hands on some swedish Shifts with Swedish keyboard etc.
I have access to 10 of them
Only 512Eur / 453GPB
5500 Swedish Kronor
Shipping cost not included
Ricca, can you please post how you changed the language?
Please use Marketplace section for this porposes!
Sheepster,
Check out this link it helped me turn windows vista chinese to english. It will let you pick from whatever lang packs are installed.
http://www.vistarewired.com/2008/10...ui-language-packs-for-all-versions-of-windows
I live in Taiwan, and despite HTC making the Leo here, it still seems impossible to buy one in English without going to either Hong Kong or Singapore, or having one shipped in (which carries a reasonably hefty import tax).
This is the most stupid situation i have ever come across!! Especially as there are HTC shops all over the place. Even they can't get me one in English! Nevertheless, that is what we have to deal with.
This has never been a problem in the past with my X1 for example, because i have always purchased a chinese model and re-flashed. As there is no hardSPl available yet for the leo, is it possible to re-flash or convert to English any other way? I am happy to have a retail ROM, but i don't want to shell out for a Chinese model, to find there is no way to convert it to English until hardSPL comes out.
If you can get your hands on a demo in the shops, perhaps you can work out if you can change the language en WWE?
Else, wait until the HardSPL gets released and buy one cheaper then.
English HTC HD2 in Taiwan
Last week HTC and Taiwan Mobile announced that Taiwan Mobile would be selling the HD2 in Taiwan. In the past I have gone into Taiwan Mobile's Myfone shops and asked if they could procure an English version of several of HTC's PDA phones. They assured me it was possible. If you are a Taiwan Mobile subscriber you might check this out as you could get the HD2 at a subsidized price. Also I read once on the Forumosa website that one fellow called HTC's headquarters in Taoyuan and through persistence talked them into selling him an English version of the phone he wanted, and had it delivered to him by the next day! Hope this helps.
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Last week HTC and Taiwan Mobile announced that Taiwan Mobile would be selling the HD2 in Taiwan. In the past I have gone into Taiwan Mobile's Myfone shops and asked if they could procure an English version of several of HTC's PDA phones. They assured me it was possible. If you are a Taiwan Mobile subscriber you might check this out as you could get the HD2 at a subsidized price. Also I read once on the Forumosa website that one fellow called HTC's headquarters in Taoyuan and through persistence talked them into selling him an English version of the phone he wanted, and had it delivered to him by the next day! Hope this helps.
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I checked a MyFone shop yesterday, and they didnt even realise it was out!! Though I may try calling HTC in Taoyuan and see what they can do! Hopefully HardSPL will be out soon, and i can just buy a chinese one and reflash.
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I checked a MyFone shop yesterday, and they didnt even realise it was out!! Though I may try calling HTC in Taoyuan and see what they can do! Hopefully HardSPL will be out soon, and i can just buy a chinese one and reflash.
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Good luck with the headquarters in Taoyuan. Let us know how it goes. Also, next time you go to a Myfone shop, just print out the HTC Chinese press release (http://www.htc.com/tw/press.aspx?id=115674&lang=1028) and show it to them. Launch date with Taiwan Mobile is set for mid November, so that is still a few days to go.
No joy with HTC in Taoyuan. Spent a while on the phone and talked to a couple of people who both said (from what i understand - my chinese sucks!!) that microsoft only licences windows in chinese for taiwan, and therefore i would have to purchase one from a different country!!!
Sounds really stupid to me, but i guess i am left with either trying to import one (expensive) or i'll have to wait for HardSPL. Lets hope its not too long! I'm almost tempted to buy one in chinese and manage with it till HSPL is available. But if i do that i run the risk of it not coming out for months and months. Decisions decisions.......
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No joy with HTC in Taoyuan. Spent a while on the phone and talked to a couple of people who both said (from what i understand - my chinese sucks!!) that microsoft only licences windows in chinese for taiwan, and therefore i would have to purchase one from a different country!!!
Sounds really stupid to me, but i guess i am left with either trying to import one (expensive) or i'll have to wait for HardSPL. Lets hope its not too long! I'm almost tempted to buy one in chinese and manage with it till HSPL is available. But if i do that i run the risk of it not coming out for months and months. Decisions decisions.......
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Ya, it sounds really stupid. As far as I know the license fee for Windows Mobile is a charge per phone to use the OS on that phone. I wonder why several Myfone shops before told me they could get an HTC PDA phone in English. I have a feeling that the reason it is hard to get an English phone here is not really licensing, but the after service for an English phone! Years ago I inquired about importing an HTC phone, when it was still called Dopod, and the disadvantage to that is that it would have to be sent back to the country of purchase for servicing.
Well, now you have my interest piqued on this. I work part time with a PR company that handles Microsoft accounts, including Windows Mobile. On Monday I will make inquiries about the actual licensing situation. Nothing like going straight to the horse's mouth for an answer.
Last night I got an advertising email from HTC, and it very clearly showed the HTC HD2 as being carried by Taiwan Mobile. If you have any interest in that, I could arrange to forward that email to you. I think you could manage quite well using a Chinese phone until the XDA guys come up with the tools needed to flash into English. The disadvantage in that is of course you would have to flash back to Chinese if you had a need to use your warranty.
I am in a similar situation, as I am a (more or less) English speaking person living and working in Japan.
In the past, I ordered my HTC devices from UK or NL and brought them over to Japan on business trips.
But then, if a hardware problem occurs (which seems to get standard for HTC launches, as I experienced on my TP, and now read in other threads about the LEO), I have to send it back for warranty to the place I bought it from, or pay HTC global repair in Taiwan an unbelieveable hight amount to repair it.
Not only does HTC global repair ask 30USD just for handling charge of pverseas purchased phones, but also du they make you to pay both way shipping, which is my case was 12USD from Japan to Taiwan by Japanese post, and then (you better sit down now) 109USD for Taiwan to Japan by DHL (which HTC chose, and I had no influnce on). This 109USD is only shipping, not import tax or such sort of things. The bill for that came two weeks later, which I of course refused to pay, as I already own the device, so it has no commercial value anymore.
Well, I am still undecided when and where to get my HD2.
I was thinking to order it from UK or NL again to coworkers in Germany, and then bring it over to Japan in December, but I am scared of getting the volume up button hardware problem and having to send it back to UK or NL for replacement, for which I have to wait until my next business trip to pick it up.
Why is HTC always making it so difficult for us. I mean we just want to spend our money on their products, should they make this easy for us!?
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But then, if a hardware problem occurs (which seems to get standard for HTC launches, as I experienced on my TP, and now read in other threads about the LEO), I have to send it back for warranty to the place I bought it from, or pay HTC global repair in Taiwan an unbelieveable hight amount to repair it.
Not only does HTC global repair ask 30USD just for handling charge of pverseas purchased phones, but also du they make you to pay both way shipping, which is my case was 12USD from Japan to Taiwan by Japanese post, and then (you better sit down now) 109USD for Taiwan to Japan by DHL (which HTC chose, and I had no influnce on). This 109USD is only shipping, not import tax or such sort of things. The bill for that came two weeks later, which I of course refused to pay, as I already own the device, so it has no commercial value anymore.
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I had the same problem with my old HTC C500 when i first got here. I had a blad flash and bricked it, and when i went into the HTC shop here, they told me i had to send it back to HTC Europe, or Orange UK to get the thing fixed! Stupid Stupid policy!!!
On the flip side, i went into a shop on Bade Lu last week to ask about an english Leo, and they told me if i waited till wednesday next week they would be able to change it to english for me. Dont know if that means they know something about HardSPL coming out that people here dont, or whether they are talking rubbish but then i'm not hopefull. Like the MyFone shops also saying they can get them in english - that turned out to be complete bull when i was trying to get an X1.
Though on a side note, not ever having purchased a HTC phone as early as this, it is starting to worry me hearing some of the faults that seem to be developing and hearing that the first batches of HTC devices seem to be problematic in various ways. Should i wait for the later batches?
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I had the same problem with my old HTC C500 when i first got here. I had a blad flash and bricked it, and when i went into the HTC shop here, they told me i had to send it back to HTC Europe, or Orange UK to get the thing fixed! Stupid Stupid policy!!!
On the flip side, i went into a shop on Bade Lu last week to ask about an english Leo, and they told me if i waited till wednesday next week they would be able to change it to english for me. Dont know if that means they know something about HardSPL coming out that people here dont, or whether they are talking rubbish but then i'm not hopefull. Like the MyFone shops also saying they can get them in english - that turned out to be complete bull when i was trying to get an X1.
Though on a side note, not ever having purchased a HTC phone as early as this, it is starting to worry me hearing some of the faults that seem to be developing and hearing that the first batches of HTC devices seem to be problematic in various ways. Should i wait for the later batches?
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Probably the Bade Road people were telling you the truth, but I do not think they have any esoteric knowledge of HardSPL. I was given an old O2 branded Himalaya with the Chinese version of Windows Mobile 20003 on it. The original owner had it on contract with CHT. It was originally sold CID unlocked so I was able to flash it into Windows Mobile 6.1, then 6.5. I also know a fellow here who has a CHT HTC Touch that came with Windows Mobile 6.1. Neither CHT nor HTC issued an official update, but he was able to flash it to 6.5, and as far as I know, he did not use HardSPL. It is my understanding that many of the phones sold here come CID unlocked, and that is more than likely what you would get from the Bade Road people, especially if you are not buying it on contract with any of the cell phone carriers here.
Waiting for a later batch certainly would not hurt. Did you ask about the exchange policy of the store on Bade Road in the event that you got a defective model?
So basically you are saying that if it is CID unlocked you can flash with custom roms without hardSPL or more likely, i can flash with official HTC english rom without hardSPL or it saying "this phones IMEI is not registered for this upgrade....bla bla"
I'm probably gonna head down to the shop on wednesday after work when they said they could sell me an english one and see if i can actually get one first!! They said 1 hour to change, so if they can indeed do that, that that would be great. I didnt ask about returns, as i would like to be sure they can get me one in english first. If they said i had to return it to HTC instead of them, then i think that would probably be a deal breaker given previous experience.......
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So basically you are saying that if it is CID unlocked you can flash with custom roms without hardSPL or more likely, i can flash with official HTC english rom without hardSPL or it saying "this phones IMEI is not registered for this upgrade....bla bla"
I'm probably gonna head down to the shop on wednesday after work when they said they could sell me an english one and see if i can actually get one first!! They said 1 hour to change, so if they can indeed do that, that that would be great. I didnt ask about returns, as i would like to be sure they can get me one in english first. If they said i had to return it to HTC instead of them, then i think that would probably be a deal breaker given previous experience.......
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As far as my experience goes, with a CID unlocked phone, you should encounter no problems such as IMEI, etc., unless some new protection scheme has been inaugurated in the HD2. (If I am wrong here, I hope someone will correct me.) For returns, or repairs, of course the phone would have to be flashed back first to the original Chinese ROM, but that sure is better than sending it overseas to be repaired or replaced! HTC's local service is not really that bad.
Keep us updated on what you find. Since I am a Taiwan Mobile subscriber I am thinking of getting the phone through them. The cost going through TWN is 新台幣25,900元.
WWE Rom
You would be after something like this?
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe
ddevey said:
I live in Taiwan, and despite HTC making the Leo here, it still seems impossible to buy one in English without going to either Hong Kong or Singapore, or having one shipped in (which carries a reasonably hefty import tax).
This is the most stupid situation i have ever come across!! Especially as there are HTC shops all over the place. Even they can't get me one in English! Nevertheless, that is what we have to deal with.
This has never been a problem in the past with my X1 for example, because i have always purchased a chinese model and re-flashed. As there is no hardSPl available yet for the leo, is it possible to re-flash or convert to English any other way? I am happy to have a retail ROM, but i don't want to shell out for a Chinese model, to find there is no way to convert it to English until hardSPL comes out.
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Freakin'awsome. If i can do that, i may head down tomorrow and see if i can get one!
I never understand these taiwan service providers charges for phones. 25k is what they cost to buy outright. They were like that with the x1. MyFone were asking more with a 12 month contract, than buying it outright from a store less than 30 feet away round the corner. Where's the insentive?
To save yourself from frustration, make sure that the phone you get is actually a CID unlocked version! I think the only incentives for buying with a carrier here is that the payments are spread over time and it usually comes with an unlimited data plan at minimal monthly costs, but is also requires a two year contract. (No problem for me, I have been with TWN since the late 1990's.)
I look forward to hearing if you do decide to buy, and how the flashing goes. Good luck!
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Good luck.
Let me know if you have trouble locating the rom and I'll upload it somewhere.
I believe HTC are a bit annoyed about it being posted.
ddevey said:
Freakin'awsome. If i can do that, i may head down tomorrow and see if i can get one!
I never understand these taiwan service providers charges for phones. 25k is what they cost to buy outright. They were like that with the x1. MyFone were asking more with a 12 month contract, than buying it outright from a store less than 30 feet away round the corner. Where's the insentive?
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No dice.....cant even buy a chinese one yet! 1 guy says next week, another says next month. Bummer. How can europe get these things first, and taiwan: the place that designs and manufactures them doesnt get them till after. Go figure!
ddevey said:
No dice.....cant even buy a chinese one yet! 1 guy says next week, another says next month. Bummer. How can europe get these things first, and taiwan: the place that designs and manufactures them doesnt get them till after. Go figure!
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Actually there is a reason for that. HTC was at one time strictly an OEM supplier, and their major customers (such as 02) were in Europe. I suspect delivery first to Europe stems from this history. It was not until later they started to develop a brand name, and at first that name was Dopod (a name that was ridiculed in some western quarters). HTC later absorbed Dopod (that was not difficult as it was essentially a family affair). For sure you must have been noticing their efforts in the last couple of years to develop brand awareness in the NA market.
Now, what you will find is that in Taiwan marketing it is the designated distributors (in this case, Taiwan Mobile) who will get the first batches of phones on the local market. Time varies from one to two weeks all the way to a month before the shops can get their hands on the new models. Taiwan Mobile now is showing the HTC HD2 on their website.
It is just the way it is that things work in Taiwan. But, at least that time delay increases your chances of getting a phone that comes from a batch that does not have defects that have been surfacing.
Sorry if I bored you with all of the above. I used to work with the Taipei Computer Association and my job was pretty much reporting new Taiwan IT products to the world through a website (connected to Computex Taipei) and an email newsletter, so I carry around in my head a lot of rather trivial information on the history of Taiwan's IT industry.
When you do get the phone, let us know how the flashing goes. As I recall there are two types of flash programs, and one allows you to easily flash a phone to another language, the other results in not being able to flash due to language incompatibilities. If you search the XDA archives I think you can find the information on that if you run into that problem. I am too tired tonight to re-research that for you.
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But, at least that time delay increases your chances of getting a phone that comes from a batch that does not have defects that have been surfacing.
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Lets just hope its not like the launch of the Xperia X1 with the cracked cases for week 44 models.
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Taiwan IT
I am sure your knowledge of the history of IT mfg in Taiwan is very interesting. I have a huge admiration for Taiwans It industry.
They have given the world high quality low cost technology that is truly astonishing. I have been building my own pc' for 13 years and thanks to TW IT, I, (we all) get amazing bangs for bucks. I am a huge fan of HTC for this reason.
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Actually there is a reason for that. HTC was at one time strictly an OEM supplier, and their major customers (such as 02) were in Europe. I suspect delivery first to Europe stems from this history. It was not until later they started to develop a brand name, and at first that name was Dopod (a name that was ridiculed in some western quarters). HTC later absorbed Dopod (that was not difficult as it was essentially a family affair). For sure you must have been noticing their efforts in the last couple of years to develop brand awareness in the NA market.
Now, what you will find is that in Taiwan marketing it is the designated distributors (in this case, Taiwan Mobile) who will get the first batches of phones on the local market. Time varies from one to two weeks all the way to a month before the shops can get their hands on the new models. Taiwan Mobile now is showing the HTC HD2 on their website.
It is just the way it is that things work in Taiwan. But, at least that time delay increases your chances of getting a phone that comes from a batch that does not have defects that have been surfacing.
Sorry if I bored you with all of the above. I used to work with the Taipei Computer Association and my job was pretty much reporting new Taiwan IT products to the world through a website (connected to Computex Taipei) and an email newsletter, so I carry around in my head a lot of rather trivial information on the history of Taiwan's IT industry.
When you do get the phone, let us know how the flashing goes. As I recall there are two types of flash programs, and one allows you to easily flash a phone to another language, the other results in not being able to flash due to language incompatibilities. If you search the XDA archives I think you can find the information on that if you run into that problem. I am too tired tonight to re-research that for you.
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Hi quick question,
I just managed to sell my htc hd2 for £390 so am about to order my nexus one! (im in the UK) other UK buyers can you tell me how much its all coming to roughly, i understand its about £340 on the credit card from google then probably about another £60 from DHL once they invoice you?
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
What i was mainly concerned with was that I did hear this may effect gps/maps and sat nav for uk users and that we may not be able to use turn by turn in uk? This may not be true, its just something i remmber reading on another forum?
any thoughts would be appreciated
cheers
Well I believe the UK Nexus will have multi-touch.
I have my Nexus already running Google Nav as it works as per the old method for Hero/Dream.
It depends if you're planning on rooting it or not, if you are then you'll be putting a custom ROM on anyway, which will probably have multi-touch..etc (Cyan is already working on it).
Also the UK will more than likely have a T-mobile brading...etc.
Your Choice.
I have had my DHL bill as yet but it was a tad shy of £355 I think (depends on the exchange rate at the time).
yeah i think by all sounds rooting seems to be the way to go once peeps have had time to iron it out. havent had android phone before but like all i hear, i had the htc hd2 for about 4 hours before i was convinced winmo was a pile of ****! i think i may take the plunge and go for it -my GF keeps saying why dont i just get an Iphone! i think i need this phone to show her why!
If the euro Nexus does have multitouch there's nothing to stop Google updating those US phones sold to UK users - the hardware will be identical.
How do I test multi touch as I thought Eclair supports it out the box? I tried multi touch paint from market and it seems to work fine.
Use Dolphin Browser, this supports multitouch.
We KNOW the phones support it, its just Google couldn't release to US handsets for some reason to do with Apple and copyright??? not entirely sure.
The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
You will need to install a custom version of Maps for Google Maps Navigation to work outside the US. Keep in mind there are some limitations. Search for the thread in the Dream Android Development forum to read how to install and what the limitations are.
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The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
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Exactly what I thought. I prefer the double tap
There is, afaik, no "UK Nexus" and "US Nexus".
They're the same.
If the preinstalled apps in the version sold to US citizens don't have multitouch, the ones sold to Brits won't either.
Same hardware and software, only if you're having it sent to UK, you get the option of getting an adapter for you charger separately.
It's explained on the official support page, which I'm not allowed to link to.
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
John Cipolletti said:
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
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The Neuxs One is a phone made for the whole world, so importing it will not result in problems with coverage as it supports the mostly used 3g bands around the world.
Also noone is importing the Nexus One to the UK since Google is specifically targetting UK residents and must of course provide customer service to them.
As for other countries which google is not really selling the phone to I don't know, but I assume that the warranty is world wide and you should not have trouble returning it.
fryarch said:
Hi quick question,
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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ScaredyCat said:
I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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Really? How did it update these apps exactly? I had no 3g/edge/gprs or wifi when I set up. Are you suggesting that OTB there are multiple app versions? Are you saying that if you happend to be in the US and used a UK sim you'd get UK apps? I doubt that very very much, particularly as a SIM is not even required to setup.
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Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
TA DA
m00moo said:
Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ScaredyCat said:
LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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I'm also guessing that it didn;t to the laser etching as i signed in to gmail.
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I take it there's still no confirmation as to whether it will be available sim-free from an EU webstore when it is offered on Vodafone? In fact, unless things change, when it is subsidised by VF, it may be a case of signing up to a vodafone contract on google.com and still importing the handset. If there is some sort of google.co.uk offering, then presumably the price will reflect the VAT element.
i got one from ebay 470 free shipping..
Works fine so far, how do i get the maps working? whats the old hero method? Ive never had an hero lol
I was following the Singapore Live Launch this morning and the main topic that came about was Singapore will be getting the first release on the 6 June.
Other nations will follow.
See here for details on the Singapore Live Show.
It is already available for online purchase. I just bought one and will be collecting my unit next monday (31st May).
can u tell us where?
it's available mostly from local telcos in Singapore
g00ndu said:
It is already available for online purchase. I just bought one and will be collecting my unit next monday (31st May).
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g00ndu,
once u got ur i9000, wud u mind testing whether the Video Call feature is available and can it be used?
looking forward to ur reply
fulofash said:
g00ndu,
once u got ur i9000, wud u mind testing whether the Video Call feature is available and can it be used?
looking forward to ur reply
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Sure, and once and for all, i will let Beards and company whether there is an LED flash. I seriously doubt that there was one.
Will post once i get my unit on monday.
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can u tell us where?
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I bought it online @ the following link:
https://www.singtelshop.com/#
How do you buy it without a contract on that website singtel ?
because I can't seem to be able to find a link to buy it without contract as I don't live in Singapore.
g00ndu said:
Sure, and once and for all, i will let Beards and company whether there is an LED flash. I seriously doubt that there was one.
Will post once i get my unit on monday.
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ahh. cant wait! thanx in advance
Archius said:
How do you buy it without a contract on that website singtel ?
because I can't seem to be able to find a link to buy it without contract as I don't live in Singapore.
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You can't. That's a telco site, only sells locally with telco contract.
kenkiller said:
You can't. That's a telco site, only sells locally with telco contract.
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Yup, and at this point of time, only this telco has the tie-up with Samsung. Very similar when the Iphone is launched in SNG.
P/S: Our government doesn't encourage exclusive tie-ups on a permanent basis, which is why Iphone was later sold on the other 2 telcos as well.
P/P/S: I don't even know if this is the 16gb or the 8gb model, but then again it comes with 2 free gifts - 1 pair of "Super Junior" concert tickets and a table stand, whatever that is.
Super Junior is a all boy band from korea. I have seen people paying good money just to go to the concert.
I've checked the phone out yesterday. The screen is just awesome but i noticed that the Google Voice Search function is not available in the phone I've tested. There is no mic icon beside the google search box.
It would be a bummer if they have decided to not include the function. Anyone knows if the function has been omitted out in the retail set or that it is only on the set that I've tested on.
Strange, several of the reviews have commented how accurate the voice search was.
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Yup, and at this point of time, only this telco has the tie-up with Samsung. Very similar when the Iphone is launched in SNG.
P/S: Our government doesn't encourage exclusive tie-ups on a permanent basis, which is why Iphone was later sold on the other 2 telcos as well.
P/P/S: I don't even know if this is the 16gb or the 8gb model, but then again it comes with 2 free gifts - 1 pair of "Super Junior" concert tickets and a table stand, whatever that is.
Super Junior is a all boy band from korea. I have seen people paying good money just to go to the concert.
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To add on, we have rules that doesn't allow SIM locks on phones, so it can be used with any operator. Expect to see many sets sold on the local market as all the girls ditch the sets because they're just interested in seeing Super Junior.
I'm not so sure about the tie-ups, phones like Milestone is still exclusive to SH after so long, as the Cliq and Backflip are exclusive to ST...of course, without sim locks, it really doesn't matter much unless u really want the telco subsidy.
It's the 16gb model. Brochures and launch party states it's only 16gb model sold in SG.
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Strange, several of the reviews have commented how accurate the voice search was.
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Is that the contact search they were referring to?
My brother has a Desire and when he loads Google Maps there's no voice search yet I have it on my WM HD2.
zkillers said:
It would be a bummer if they have decided to not include the function. Anyone knows if the function has been omitted out in the retail set or that it is only on the set that I've tested on.
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I think they have included it, because I have read that it is pretty accurate on this phone (somewhere...)*.
The new vlingo is pretty neat, though, and looks to be a lot more accurate than the standard Google voice stuff!
I quite like this guy's reviews: http://hemorrdroids.net/
He doesn't have too many, but he usually gives me the information I want to hear, and is concise (which I found a lot of the American review sites aren't!)
Anyway, his vlingo demo impressed me.
*edit: just checked, and gsmarena say the voice search is good on this phone: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p8.php
hashfoo said:
I think they have included it, because I have read that it is pretty accurate on this phone (somewhere...)*.
The new vlingo is pretty neat, though, and looks to be a lot more accurate than the standard Google voice stuff!
I quite like this guy's reviews: http://hemorrdroids.net/
He doesn't have too many, but he usually gives me the information I want to hear, and is concise (which I found a lot of the American review sites aren't!)
Anyway, his vlingo demo impressed me.
*edit: just checked, and gsmarena say the voice search is good on this phone: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p8.php
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Thanks for the links. Yeah I've read the review on GSMarena before testing the phone. That was why I was surprised to not see the microphone icon beside the google search box. Anyway I believe some of the early birds will be receiving their phones tomorrow. Hopefully they can review the phone and maybe confirm any rumours.
zkillers said:
I've checked the phone out yesterday. The screen is just awesome but i noticed that the Google Voice Search function is not available in the phone I've tested. There is no mic icon beside the google search box.
It would be a bummer if they have decided to not include the function. Anyone knows if the function has been omitted out in the retail set or that it is only on the set that I've tested on.
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The google voice search was'nt on my X10 but you should be able to download it from the Android Market "Google Search By Voice".
kenkiller said:
To add on, we have rules that doesn't allow SIM locks on phones, so it can be used with any operator. Expect to see many sets sold on the local market as all the girls ditch the sets because they're just interested in seeing Super Junior.
I'm not so sure about the tie-ups, phones like Milestone is still exclusive to SH after so long, as the Cliq and Backflip are exclusive to ST...of course, without sim locks, it really doesn't matter much unless u really want the telco subsidy.
It's the 16gb model. Brochures and launch party states it's only 16gb model sold in SG.
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So, you ordered yours oredi?
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So, you ordered yours oredi?
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Yes I have.