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no wm6 for ameo (ever?)

hi all
just received an email from t-mobile uk saying that have no plans to release the wm6 rom. Does this mean were are cursed or will we be able to use the HTC version when it comes out. is it just a case of losing branding and the cab files with the gprs settings etc???
cheers

Yeah i know, i got the same reply by email at weekend. you think that with the unit being so high spec that they would want to upgrade to WM6 for customer satisfaction

Disgraceful! Let's hope someone cracks the CID protection soon so we can use the HTC ROM when it is released!

Not good news. Let's all sign a petition and get it over to T-Mobile.
-Krip

yea, not happy about this at all, been with t-mobile for 8 years now, theyve had a **** load of money off of me. let me know if you start a petition

Since WM6 isn't an upgrade for any Advantage yet, is it really likely their emaildrone is going to know about it really?
Yes, we should petition them. But in context. "When WM6 is shipping on the Advantage please make it available for Ameo"

I second that, we need to make sure they know how not realising an operating system upgrade as big as WM6 would nark us Ameo owners off. (to put it nicely!)

Don't get upset..we'll get it anyway
Sorry guys I'm in disagreement with you on this one. I agree that a device as new and feature rich as the Ameo should definitely come with WM6, but it was never promised or even mentioned to the best of my recollection prior to and after the Ameo was released. Therefore we all knew what we were getting before we shelled out, even though we all held out hope that an official T-mobile WM6 upgrade would be available.
I'm quite happy to wait until CID unlocking has been cracked and an official WM6 ROM is available for the Dopod or Advantage version.
Let's face it people, we'll get there in the end anyway, wether they want us too or not.

CID is already available through imei-check, but they cant do it over-the-air. I emailed them about CID/SIM unlocking and this is their reply.....
Hello,
>>we can unlock it, but remote is not possible right now. If you want you can send the device to us for unlock. Special delivery is ok. The unlock is 20 GBP + 7 gbp to ship it back to you. Please send it to:
MIGsofT LTD FAO:Florin Mandache 19 Cowan Road Balloch Glasgow G68 9BX. Send just the handset + battery. >Regards, > >IMEI-CHECK Team >
I was very unsure sending the unit and needed reassurance so i replied.....
Thanks for your reply, but could you supply me with a contact number(landline) to help keep track of my unit, and so i can make payment by card. Your website doesn't contain any contact info which makes me a little uneasy.
And this is the reply i got back.....
Hello,
You can call me on my mobile : +44795*******.
The payment it will be done via paypal or direct bank deposit after we received the device and we unlocked it.
As you might guess, i'm still wary of sending it off so i guess i'll sit and wait until another option is available.

i was checking via STREETMAP, the postcode for imei-check (look at my post above) and i found this........http://www.myhouseprice.com/HousePr...imeframe=1&timeframemonth=99&timeframeyear=99
CHECK THE FIFTH HOUSE DOWN THE LIST! Its the same address and postcode for IMEI-CHECK, and it went up for sale on 23/03/07. Now i definately aint sending my unit through the post, to dodgy!

neildunne said:
Please send it to:
MIGsofT LTD FAO:Florin Mandache 19 Cowan Road Balloch Glasgow G68 9BX.
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Excellent! I'm just down the road (for a certain value of "down the road", being a two hour drive but one I do frequently) from them.
Wonder if they'll do it whilst I wait
Richard

mackaby007 said:
Sorry guys I'm in disagreement with you on this one. I agree that a device as new and feature rich as the Ameo should definitely come with WM6, but it was never promised or even mentioned to the best of my recollection prior to and after the Ameo was released. Therefore we all knew what we were getting before we shelled out, even though we all held out hope that an official T-mobile WM6 upgrade would be available.
I'm quite happy to wait until CID unlocking has been cracked and an official WM6 ROM is available for the Dopod or Advantage version.
Let's face it people, we'll get there in the end anyway, wether they want us too or not.
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i agree with you here, T-mobile has never promise WM6 update, so if they decide not to offer it, it's no problem, you just need the CID tool, and you can install the DOPOD or HTC one.

Whilst i accept that we were never promised an upgrade i consider that most of the Ameo owners believed that an upgrade would be in the pipe line.
By using unauthorised upgrade methods are we not invalidating our warranties and risking the chance of removal of technical support from t-mobile?
Perhaps there are associated overhead costs for T-mobile with regard to supporting another operating system but there are already phones in their range that use wm6. We are not asking them to support *nix.
I rang t-mobile last week regarding a phone problem last week (unable to make/receive calls). i was told that nobody on their thd had an Ameo manual (in the end the problem was 3g network related rather than a fault with the phone).
To date T-mobile have no publicly available rom versions (at all) which leads me to think that they are not yet up to speed wrt support for this unit anyway.
I have been a T-mobile customer for 10 years and have been out of contract for the last 3 until selling my soul for 18 months to get this Ameo. T-mobile cannot provide me adequate support at the moment and HTC will not because it is not their phone.
At a minimum i cannot see why we can not be offered this upgrade as a gesture of goodwill.
If it is a question of HTC (or microsoft) charging too much for the upgrade then perhaps they should consider how few units would have been sold without the t-mobile branding/subsidy.
i for one would be happy to petition T-mobile and will put my money where my mouth is later this weekend and start a site for the petition.

Lips tightly zipped.
But don't worry.
That's all I'm saying.

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Lips tightly zipped.
But don't worry.
That's all I'm saying.
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That'll do then. Thanks.

imaginarynumber said:
Whilst i accept that we were never promised an upgrade i consider that most of the Ameo owners believed that an upgrade would be in the pipe line.
By using unauthorised upgrade methods are we not invalidating our warranties and risking the chance of removal of technical support from t-mobile?
Perhaps there are associated overhead costs for T-mobile with regard to supporting another operating system but there are already phones in their range that use wm6. We are not asking them to support *nix.
I rang t-mobile last week regarding a phone problem last week (unable to make/receive calls). i was told that nobody on their thd had an Ameo manual (in the end the problem was 3g network related rather than a fault with the phone).
To date T-mobile have no publicly available rom versions (at all) which leads me to think that they are not yet up to speed wrt support for this unit anyway.
I have been a T-mobile customer for 10 years and have been out of contract for the last 3 until selling my soul for 18 months to get this Ameo. T-mobile cannot provide me adequate support at the moment and HTC will not because it is not their phone.
At a minimum i cannot see why we can not be offered this upgrade as a gesture of goodwill.
If it is a question of HTC (or microsoft) charging too much for the upgrade then perhaps they should consider how few units would have been sold without the t-mobile branding/subsidy.
i for one would be happy to petition T-mobile and will put my money where my mouth is later this weekend and start a site for the petition.
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If everyone thinks the same with you, then all T-mobile PDA user will be asking wm6 update (T-mobile MDA,MDA PRO.....). The things is it cost nothing to buy the upgrade, Microsft does not charge anything for it, but in order to publish the update, service provider will needs to run testing on it to make sure it's stable, it's nothing to do with HTC here as well, HTC offer the basic ROM, then T-mobile will needs to finish it, so it will takes them a while to make it stable, this is where you see the advantage of each different ROM, they are not all done by HTC, they are done by the service provider. And when you say WM6 device is already available on T-mobile, which one are you talking about? i don't seems to remember any of them.
Another important issue, you are going to see less and less HTC product on T-mobile, and any other provider too, HTC is now changing their company structure, they are trying to be like Nokia, so you won't see T-mobile mark or branding on HTC device in the future. So you already notice, T-mobile is the only one selling HTC advantage in UK, and it could be the last one, (or the very last few). In the future, you will see only HTC brand. So because of this, T-mobile has a very good reason not to be bother with WM6 update, i believe they are due to the end of the contract with HTC, and really, i don't think T-mobile care too much about Ameo, you don't see it advertise anywhere....
The bottom line is, even T-mobile release official WM6 update, i don't think it's going to be as stable as the DOPOD one or HTC one, they are already in the testing stage, and beta version will be release for tester next month. So all we need is the CID unlock, then you can choose the best ROM to upgrade.

Owners of the dash have been offered upgrades to wm6
And i go back to my point about not being offered support (understandably) for unauthorised upgrades. Surely if you know that the majority of owners of a particular phone are going to follow this path (ie unofficial upgrades) it will be cheaper (in the long run) to aid them and ensure that they have a phone that works. Otherwise you also run the risk of them blaming the network when it is in fact their phone that is not working.
With regard to your assertion that "t-mobile don't care about the ameo" the argument doesn't hold much water as it would imply that they don't care much about their customers- hence we return to the crux of this thread.
I cannot go out and buy a copy of wm6 and install it myself. if i purchased a copy of vista and discovered that it would not be possible to legitimately upgrade (purchase) to it's replacement (bar hardware issues) i would not purchase vista. It is now a given with phones of this form that we expect software/os improvements to compliment the hardware.
not every one is aware of these types of forums and would benefit from the upgrades and the ensuing improvements. It is through T-mobile that awareness would be increased (with the greatest respect to this site).
I do not doubt that you are more savy than me but if that implies an "i'm alright Jack" mentality then I personally prefer to be ignorant (it is after all blissful)
When sms was rolled out did you sit there and say "oh i don't expect to be able to use that because I signed up when vox was the only option"- i think not.

imaginarynumber said:
Owners of the dash have been offered upgrades to wm6
And i go back to my point about not being offered support (understandably) for unauthorised upgrades. Surely if you know that the majority of owners of a particular phone are going to follow this path (ie unofficial upgrades) it will be cheaper (in the long run) to aid them and ensure that they have a phone that works. Otherwise you also run the risk of them blaming the network when it is in fact their phone that is not working.
With regard to your assertion that "t-mobile don't care about the ameo" the argument doesn't hold much water as it would imply that they don't care much about their customers- hence we return to the crux of this thread.
I cannot go out and buy a copy of wm6 and install it myself. if i purchased a copy of vista and discovered that it would not be possible to legitimately upgrade (purchase) to it's replacement (bar hardware issues) i would not purchase vista. It is now a given with phones of this form that we expect software/os improvements to compliment the hardware.
not every one is aware of these types of forums and would benefit from the upgrades and the ensuing improvements. It is through T-mobile that awareness would be increased (with the greatest respect to this site).
I do not doubt that you are more savy than me but if that implies an "i'm alright Jack" mentality then I personally prefer to be ignorant (it is after all blissful)
When sms was rolled out did you sit there and say "oh i don't expect to be able to use that because I signed up when vox was the only option"- i think not.
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i understand your point there, but if you stand at the T-mobile side and think about it, then maybe you will understand if they decide not to offer wm6 update. It cost them time and money to release, it's pruely a bonus for T-mobile customer if they offer it. So do you think T-mobile MDA PRO should be offer WM6 as well? since it's the second most expensive PDA that T-mobile offer.
Anyway, what i am saying here is we are not suppose to flash un-official ROM, it has already bought this site trouble. I know lots of people (including me still do it anyway). I guess time will tell whether T-mobile will lunch WM6 update or not, but if they decide not to, don't be surprise, they have perfectly good reason for it.

Sorry WU
this was not intended to be a snipe at you but i believe in fair play and think that you are wrong.
with regard to a petition i will hold off given that Slave1 seems to know something and others respect his opinion, unless i am convinced otherwise

imaginarynumber said:
Sorry WU
this was not intended to be a snipe at you but i believe in fair play and think that you are wrong.
with regard to a petition i will hold off given that Slave1 seems to know something and others respect his opinion, unless i am convinced otherwise
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let's all hope the upgrade will comes out from T-mobile, yes you are right, i don't know about T-mobile, and i have no contact inside this company too, all I know is when i went to the 3GSM this year, they did say something about the WM6 update but they are not sure which machine to offer by that time.
So hopefully they will release it, if not, we just need to hope a CID tools then all Ameo user can then flash HTC, DOPOD rom.

UK: In stock at Vodafone

Hi guys
Went to 02 shop today in Chester to see if any news: The staff hadnt even heard of the X1.
Went round the corner to Vodafone expecting the same thing but imagine my suprise when I was told it was in stock. Within 30 minutes I had purchased my new X1!
Yet to have a proper play but smaller and lighter than I imagined.
Andrew

Locked or unlocked?

5th of November...
Thats when most dutch shops should have the Xperia. Atleast my local Belcompany store will have it..

Branded or not?

From the pics posted on other forums, it's branded, but not that big a deal.
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_1.JPG
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_2.JPG

miky7 said:
Branded or not?
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Zaim2 said:
From the pics posted on other forums, it's branded, but not that big a deal.
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_1.JPG
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_2.JPG
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Thanks for the photos, but apart from the appearence the big question is if they have messed up with the rom.

Now we see where the dealy has come from! Making all the crap boxes and literature to acompany the naf Vodafone logos phone with its bloated Vodafone crappy ROM.
When will service providers learn its not what the end user wants?!?!?!

ajbartley said:
Hi guys
Went to 02 shop today in Chester to see if any news: The staff hadnt even heard of the X1.
Went round the corner to Vodafone expecting the same thing but imagine my suprise when I was told it was in stock. Within 30 minutes I had purchased my new X1!
Yet to have a proper play but smaller and lighter than I imagined.
Andrew
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weird, I went into the vf store in chester yesterday and they only had the dummy phone in, that was about 11.30, they didn't know when they were having a delivery but guessed it would be tuesday,they must have had a delivery after I left, you jammy git .

vinokirk said:
Now we see where the dealy has come from! Making all the crap boxes and literature to acompany the naf Vodafone logos phone with its bloated Vodafone crappy ROM.
When will service providers learn its not what the end user wants?!?!?!
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The two pictures of the Vodafone X1 above were taken by me yesterday. I really don't think they've messed with it much at all branding-wise. The Vodafone logo is black and doesn't stick out like the red one would have, an unbranded X1 just has "X1" written in that space, so it's not a huge change.
They've pre-loaded a few 'applications' which are mainly links to open Vodafone Live and their data-powered GPS site. Apart from that and a few bookmarks in Opera/PIE, I don't see too much to complain about, it still has the HTC apps like the streaming media player, sim manager, A-GPS data downloader, etc.
The Google panel is called the Vodafone panel, but the only real change I think is the inclusion of a few link to the Vodafone Live site and Mobile TV (streaming 3G video from Vodafone).

Difficult choice, Vodafone definitely in stock, but their 12 month contracts are rubbish:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/sony-ericsson/X1/
But T-Mobile just said they will definitely get it, but have no date yet.

Went to Vodafone and had a look at the dummy model, its tiny! I was expecting it to be bigger The keys are not too easy to type on. I had a look at a silver dummy and I really liked it, they had no stock of black or silver just the silver dummy.
They also dont sell it sim free but that dont matter as they had none in stock anyway!

I'm in a quandry as my local Vf shop is offering just the phone for £350-400! They have some on delivery tomorrow and I'm wondering wether to reserve one. My problem is that
I'm 9 months into an 18 month contract (T-mobile Flext) and so I cannot use a locked phone. Does anyone know whether the Vodafone Xperia's are locked or not?

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Does anyone know whether the Vodafone Xperia's are locked or not?
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Pretty sure Vodafone stopped locking all phones 12 months ago. Anyway my Vodafone X1 has just accepted my Orange Wednesday SIM so you should be in luck

They have them in stock in carphonewarehouse as well both on o2 and orange. This was in the brent cross shopping centre one that is though. Not too small and not too big just the right size got mine coming soon too. Although the salesman was pretty stupid saying not to buy it and was trying to sell me the blackberry claiming the sony ericsson x1 was full of bugs?!?!? i set him straight though!

The mystery deepens!
I spoke to vodafone customer services who said the phone was probably locked and only available on a contract (despite the shop having offered it for £350-400 on its own).
I don't want a contract with O2 or Vodafone so I'm going to try one last visit to the shop tomorrow morning and if that is unsuccessful then I'll get it through play (£499.99 & free delivery), SuperGPS or Handtec (next day delivery!).

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I spoke to vodafone customer services who said the phone was probably locked
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Wrong, as I've said up above none of their new phones are locked, and MY Vodafone X1 is running fine with my Orange SIM
and only available on a contract (despite the shop having offered it for £350-400 on its own).
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Possibly hit and miss with each shop and their targets etc however even if they did sell it SIM free it's likely to be more (about £500).

My carphonewarehouse said its not out for a couple of weeks yet :O the ejits...
I only asked the vodafone shop if they did it sim free, I didnt ask them specificly if they sold just the phone on its own(but stil with crappy vodafone branding).
I would be willing to have a vodafone branded unlocked handset for £350 rather than an unbranded unlocked handset from clove play etc for £500.
This is an avenue i hadnt even thought of!

foaf said:
Difficult choice, Vodafone definitely in stock, but their 12 month contracts are rubbish:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/sony-ericsson/X1/
But T-Mobile just said they will definitely get it, but have no date yet.
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Has anyone tried bargaining with Vodafone on the phone or in store? Someone in the Touch Pro forum managed to get a free Touch Pro on a 12 month contract at £42.50 per month. Not sure if it was a business or consumer contract.
Trouble for me now though is that as this phone has taken so long to come out I'm now torn between the X1 and the Touch HD. Why couldn't SE get it shipped like the iphone, as you have to hand it to Apple for being able to get the phone in the shops six weeks after launch.

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Has anyone tried bargaining with Vodafone on the phone or in store? Someone in the Touch Pro forum managed to get a free Touch Pro on a 12 month contract at £42.50 per month. Not sure if it was a business or consumer contract.
Trouble for me now though is that as this phone has taken so long to come out I'm now torn between the X1 and the Touch HD. Why couldn't SE get it shipped like the iphone, as you have to hand it to Apple for being able to get the phone in the shops six weeks after launch.
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yes I got a deal with vodafone retail. I asked them if they could match onliine vodastore on a 12 month contract and they said yes. I originally wanted the 45 per month deal with 900 mins and 500 texts and handset 100. He could only find 750 mins 250 texts which I said I didn't want. we finished off on 600 mins and 500 texts for 40 a month and 100 for the phone, which is a saving of 50 compared to online and got the phone there and then.

has anyone found any better deals than the ones on the vodafone website ? if i remember, the operator's deals are usually amongst the worst around ?
i'm looking for a 12 month contract but the vodafone site only allows unlimited internet and all the other goodies on 18 month contracts. grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Buying an HD2 Telstra T9193 for $299! Is this real?

Hey so I have been searching for the best place to buy a HD2 T9193 so I can use it on AT&T US 3G network. Everywhere I look, there seems to a consensus of anywhere from $800-1000. Then I find this guy, who's hotmail email address is cherryda78, who is selling them for $299 plus shipping. After emailing him he says would be $30. Here are some of the ads he has up online.
**So apparently I cannot post links because I am a new user. I copied the links to a .txt and attached it to this post. How I do I go about getting verified btw?**
I emailed him and he responded the next day with this. Below is our email thread:
Mr. Cherry Da,
I am interested in purchasing the HTC HD2 phone you have listed here and here (these were links). I have been dreaming of this phone for about 4 months now, and to get it would be just amazing. I know you can unlock the radio and run it on US 3G with AT&T. I do have some questions though. You have the phone listed for $299 USD. Is that correct? It seems much lower than most other sites right now, so I am pleasantly surprised but cautiously skeptical. Could you please provide some more information for me? How come you are offering it at such a great price?
Thank you so much!
YES.
HTC TOUCH HD2 T9193 LEO 3G Unlocked USD$299
shipping cost USD$30 for 1 pcs by EMS,DHL,UPS,FedEx
Total USD$329 for 1 pcs including shipping and insurance
we are receive your payment within 1 days arrange shipping your order
and tell you tracking no
within 3-4 days arrive your door.
Paypal:we can not accept paypal,because we can not draw out the money here
only accept Via bank Transfer or western union in our here
We DO NOT accept payments via Credit Cards and cheque.
WE DON'T OFFER CASH ON DELIVERY.
As below is my business record:
Online Tracking EE247528524CN
Your item was delivered(COMMENWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA 810) at 2010-03-03 14:48:00
Signed for by：J KING
　
Timing Site Status
　 2010-02-25 19:14:00 SHENZHEN Posting
Seems very shady to me, but for $300, I almost want to take the gamble. My question is if anyone has bought a HD2 from this guy, or would buy. Also, what has everyone paid for your phone? And where did you get it?
Thanks!

Telstra doesn't even sell it that cheap... so fishy...
it is either fake or stolen.

Hahaha Western Union or Bank Transfer - so you have absolutely NO recourse when (not if) this transaction goes south.
"Commenwealth" of Australia? Really?
If you want to throw out $330, send it to me instead!
The same guy is selling the Supersonic for €236! Does HTC have a massive leak in their supplychain that they are totally unaware of?

Please don't send this guy your money. The price is huge red flag and the Western Union or bank transfer only is an even larger red flag. If you send this guy your money you'll never see it again and you'll never receive the phone. This is a scam.

Hmm, poor broken english + only accepts western union or bank wire transfer + rediculous low price = SCAM to me. If it sounds to good to be true.....

don't, just ..... don't

Of course it is a scam.

scam.... Run, run very far.

chinese copy, gotta be, put the phrase
HTC TOUCH HD2 T9193 LEO 3G Unlocked USD$299
into google and there are dozens of hits, dollars, euros, and in one the company info is a pda manufacturer in china.

HD2 9193 is the best phone
Telstra charges AU$829.00 outright or AU$80/month for 24 months (but the call rate of Telstra is extremely high).
so $329 is fake or scam

Don't even think about it.
I work for Telstra, and there is no way that anyone can sell a Telstra Branded HD2 for that price. As mentioned earlier, if you buy it outright from a Telstra Shop it costs over A$800. You may be able to find a slightly used one for around A$700 on eBay.

As someone else pointed out,
Commenwealth of Australia, that should of been your first giveaway.

I tell ya, I know you want the phone...We all do but, be careful.
Any one that will not take a credit card for a high dollar purchase
is someone you need to avoid.
Ebay is the best or Amazon. At least you can track your
order by purchase.

Buy it and give us some feedback

buy it,I pay you $350.

Don't do it! My brother did the same thing on a weight machine set that was for $400 n normally it goes for $1200 n he send a money order n never got the weight machine n he couldn't do anything about it. Its a scam!! Don't do it!!

Scam
This definitely sounds like a scam, it will either not arrive and you can say goodbye to your cash, or it will be a cheap imitation. I know someone who bought a iPhone (idiot!) through ebay and it turned out to be some other type of handset with an 'iPhone looking' case. Didn't even look like an iPhone next to a real one.... avoid!

Scam, scam... If you want to get one cheaper, look in XDA's own marketplace (I picked one up for £310, maybe $550)

Thanks everyone
smeddy said:
Scam, scam... If you want to get one cheaper, look in XDA's own marketplace (I picked one up for £310, maybe $550)
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Thanks for the thoughts. I thought it was a scam too, but I figured I would use the power of XDA to be sure.
Thanks for the Marketplace tip. I'm a noob to the smartphone world (but rapidly learning). This site is AWESOME!

bigredtalon said:
Thanks for the thoughts. I thought it was a scam too, but I figured I would use the power of XDA to be sure.
Thanks for the Marketplace tip. I'm a noob to the smartphone world (but rapidly learning). This site is AWESOME!
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Cool! hope you found the Marketplace okay. If not, click xda-developers at the top-left of this page, and the fourth or so forum down should be the one

buying a locked galaxy tab

hi everyone
happy new year
i have a question and i hope you guys can help me
i have family in Germany and USA and i thought maybe i can buy a galaxy tab from there and they send it to me, because it's 800$ in my country and i can buy one for 399$ in the USA (AT&T) and 199Euro (O2 and vodafone) in Germany (with contact)
now i want to know whether it's possible to buy one and unlock it?
AT&T says it's 2 year contact. does it mean you have to pay monthly for 2years even if you don't use their services? can they sue you or it's ok if you cancel the contract and keep the device for 399$ you paid at first?
i don't want my uncle to get in trouble
and one more thing
if i get one and even if i couldn't unlock it, can i still use the device? like for video, office programs and most importantly it's wifi.
i heard you must activate it first. can i somehow ignore/skip it?
thank you so much in advance
i hope you have a great year

MahZi said:
now i want to know whether it's possible to buy one and unlock it?
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Yes, you can unlock it.
AT&T says it's 2 year contact. does it mean you have to pay monthly for 2years even if you don't use their services? can they sue you or it's ok if you cancel the contract and keep the device for 399$ you paid at first?
i don't want my uncle to get in trouble
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A contract is a contract, regardless of whether you use the services or not, so yes you are supposed to pay. If you wish to terminate early, you need to pay an "Early Termination Fee" (see here). I would guess this means the ETF for a Tab is $325, which would mean you'd have been better off paying $649 for the device in the first place.
And yes, they can pursue you for this - in order to get a contract phone in the US, you need a credit check which means a social security number is required, so they can track down whomever purchased the device relatively easily.
Note, I'm not in the US, so some of this information may be out of date/incorrect, but I know as of 18 months ago getting a cell phone on contract without an SSN was almost impossible!
Regards,
Dave

If you get one in Germany, you can have it unlocked right there. According to German law IIRC, they are required to unlock it for you if you ask them. They are allowed to charge a small fee for it, usually around 50€. Still a good deal.
Maybe someone from germany can confirm or refute this?

thanks Dave and Rapax for fast answers
i think it's better if i buy an unlocked one
they both (AT&T and vodafone) charge for internet connections which i won't be able to use so it does'nt worse
Rapax, vodafone price is 199euro and 40 each month, you mean i can get the device for 199 and pay 50 more to unlock?
i'm not sure if it sounds right
you can have an unlocked galaxy tab for 250euro? i'm getting one immediately

MahZi said:
thanks Dave and Rapax for fast answers
i think it's better if i buy an unlocked one
they both (AT&T and vodafone) charge for internet connections which i won't be able to use so it does'nt worse
Rapax, vodafone price is 199euro and 40 each month, you mean i can get the device for 199 and pay 50 more to unlock?
i'm not sure if it sounds right
you can have an unlocked galaxy tab for 250euro? i'm getting one immediately
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Don't forget that the contract will still run, unlocking doesn't change that. So it's 199+50+24*40 = 1,209€ Not such a bargain, is it?

i will definitly not buy one
i thought it's gonna cost cheaper that way
you guys don't know a better way?

MahZi said:
i will definitly not buy one
i thought it's gonna cost cheaper that way
you guys don't know a better way?
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Buy one from the UK for £407, all in with no contract and already unlocked.
Regards,
Dave

look on ebay.

foxmeister said:
Buy one from the UK for £407, all in with no contract and already unlocked.
Regards,
Dave
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thanks Dave, i'll see if i can find someone in UK
LargePrime said:
look on ebay.
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oh no, i have bad experience with used devices
but thanks

MahZi said:
oh no, i have bad experience with used devices
but thanks
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They have new ones.
Honestly you can get 4 used ones for that price. That's a lot of spare parts!
And returns are easy. But, As you wish...

You want GSM version only,right?

LargePrime said:
They have new ones.
Honestly you can get 4 used ones for that price. That's a lot of spare parts!
And returns are easy. But, As you wish...
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yeah i understand what you say but my relatives over there are not technology friends. they can't test the device to see if it's ok (just the look of it)
LargePrime said:
You want GSM version only,right?
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yes i want GSM version
actually i'm not gonna use it as a phone but GT is the only good thing i found that offers my need (light, small and touch). i'm paying for phone part but i won't use it
maybe i have to wait for ipad 7inch or maybe i should buy an Archos 70it
help me

Do you want to wait? If so there are some great things coming. We will see a doubling of power and storage within 6 months.
There should be a wifi only version out soon, which might meet your needs.
Conversely, find a ebay new product that will ship to you. Worse case you waste cash on shipping. still way cheaper.

I read galaxy tab wifi-only version is comming in Q1 this year
it's great news for me
I hope it's 400 not 500
so i wait
in the mean time, do you guys know other options for me? i mean other devices

[Q] Are the S4's going to be easily unlockable?

Hi all,
Long time joiner on here but left shortly after joining when I joined the "i" bandwagon. I have since got an S3 and now about to order an S4 having come back to the Android world!
So to begin with ....
I know it's difficult to say with a unit not even out yet but based on how the previous samsung's have been, will the S4 be easily unlockable?
My issue is that I am on a good contract with O2 but they're not willing to issue me an S4 without getting onto a 24 month contract even if I pay a fair bit upfront.
So my other option is that I buy a Orange/EE unit on a 12 or 18 month contract, get it unlocked and then stick the O2 sim in there.
And then with the S3, that can take the sim that comes with the new contract as I need to port an old pay as you go secondary number over anyway.
I won't place the order however if we're talking months before unlocking it as it will be pointless getting it without being able to use it
Thanks!
AJ

akash_84 said:
Hi all,
Long time joiner on here but left shortly after joining when I joined the "i" bandwagon. I have since got an S3 and now about to order an S4 having come back to the Android world!
So to begin with ....
I know it's difficult to say with a unit not even out yet but based on how the previous samsung's have been, will the S4 be easily unlockable?
My issue is that I am on a good contract with O2 but they're not willing to issue me an S4 without getting onto a 24 month contract even if I pay a fair bit upfront.
So my other option is that I buy a Orange/EE unit on a 12 or 18 month contract, get it unlocked and then stick the O2 sim in there.
And then with the S3, that can take the sim that comes with the new contract as I need to port an old pay as you go secondary number over anyway.
I won't place the order however if we're talking months before unlocking it as it will be pointless getting it without being able to use it
Thanks!
AJ
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The other option is to buy a phone from phones4u, Im sure all the phones from these companys are sim free and you also receive a pre order pack including a case, sd card and a car charger.
you can also get 12 month contracts on vodafone.
And if you go through quidco or topcashback you can receive cashback for these too.

Let me drop them an email
I did ask dialAphone - theirs is locked but did not think about P4U

akash_84 said:
Let me drop them an email
I did ask dialAphone - theirs is locked but did not think about P4U
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thats strange about dialaphone, I thought all their phones were unlocked too. I ordered my htc one X from them and it was unlocked.

Just had a live chat with P4U, have to say, very impressive. No waiting, she was extremely quick to reply each time and clearly UK based
So basically if it is ordered online, it might be unlocked but there is no guarantee it will be for certain.
BUT, if bought in-store, I can request an unlocked unit.
I think this will probably be the way to go

akash_84 said:
Just had a live chat with P4U, have to say, very impressive. No waiting, she was extremely quick to reply each time and clearly UK based
So basically if it is ordered online, it might be unlocked but there is no guarantee it will be for certain.
BUT, if bought in-store, I can request an unlocked unit.
I think this will probably be the way to go
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Yep had nothing but positive experiences with both dialaphone and phones4u

Its on unlocked mobile for £529 I'm very tempted, but was in o2 shop today and the guys there reckon it will be under £500 within a couple of weeks to buy locked to o2 so might be worth waiting for a few weeks

With Three it's £15 to unlock and you can do it right away.

Thanks all for the replies
I'm going to take the punt and go for an Orange S4. I get 7 days to return it so if it's locked on Saturday or whenever it arrives, I'll just have to send it back or maybe speak to Orange first to see if they can unlock it with the threat of cancelling the contract if it's not.
And if that happens, it'll just be a case of waiting or maybe going with O2 and the deal they have offered to upgrade which is not a nice one!