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Group Buy of Universal from HTC

I'm not sure if anyone has tried to contact HTC regarding some sort wholesale deal. I know on there web site they welcome traders.
I have used group buys in forums before and got some great deals. (I was the Buyer not the organiser) so im note sure of the best approach to get things going.
Maybe this has been even done on this forum before
has anyone got any contacts with HTC??
Any ideas welcome!!!!!! :lol:

HTC will only listen to you when your order exeeds 10K pcs or more!

Can't we try to get anyone in the forum to buy a new one?
Than we can reacht the 10k...

count me
count me in if you bid with HTC

very good idea idea
I am for it and will take one as well.
How to effect the different units to the differnt telco operators in different countries.
Htc may have some agreement with their existing distributors and this may forstall any direct deals. However having said this it should not be a dampener as nothing is impossible. good luck to us

Good ... very Good idea.
I´m in!!

I'm in for 1 Universal. I'd be more than happy to get OS updates directly from HTC...

Htc Universal
I am also in the list for buying HTC Universal.

tikkel said:
Can't we try to get anyone in the forum to buy a new one?
Than we can reacht the 10k...
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It's not practical. HTC won't send out 10,000 machines to different people. They won't send them alll to one person without payment in advance. So unless that person can afford to buy that many, 10,000 people will have to pay him/her first.
Would you want to have to send 10,000 items in the post to people all over the world? I certainly wouldn't.

What could be done tho is to contact the distributors Qtek or I-mate :wink:

Excellent idea. I'll be in for one.

MMB manages to buy them in relatively small quantitys from the carriers such as i'mate etc so it should be possible.I'll have on!

Ok guys, here I am, and I am going to help you all!
I want to be part of it... a huge part of it.
I badly need 9.974 pieces for my relatives and myself (yes, huge family).
There remain 26 pieces out and it's really hard to believe we can't find 26 more guys to do the deal, c'mon... Anybody can afford to pay 874 EUR to buy this jewel, am I wrong ?
Unfortunately my account is running pretty low right now: there remain only 8.715.004,28 EUR on it.
Considering I'm going to pay 8.717.276 EUR for my order (plus shipping), if I do not manage to get a discounted price, I am afraid we will need 2-3 more volunteers to join us.
Please let me know whether you are joining me or not.

I live in the USA and my carrier is Sprint. Do you think there is any way to get it activated on the Sprint network? The Universal works with EVDO, right?
If it's at all possible, throw me on the list for 2 of them. One for me, one for my wife.

hi people. hey SLVRBLLT are you telling us you are going to buy 9,974.0 units at 874 euro each??? just asking

This thread is amusing
If it were practically possible to execute such a deal, I would be in for it.
I think before we start assuming this like the number of units that need to be bought and prices etc. someone needs to take charge adn get in touch with HTC to see if such a thing is even possible.
I dont have any contacts so I can't do it. Anyone else?

humayunl is right....bit of organisation please before money starts flying to every corner of the globe....and nothing comes back :wink:

I'll throw down..
Hell....I just bought an SPV M2000, but I'll throw down for this. Count me in....
8)

Me too. why not just have the XDA-Developers Admins involved as well? after all, there's probably one living in each country. What we should do is find the developer in our country/state and find out if we could have a sort of hub setup. if everyone pays their admin, then the admin pays the buyer, all the buyer has to do is ship X amount of units to each admin in each country, then the ppl who paid the admin can come with their paypal reciepts and pick up the units from him one by one or something
Granted, it'd be a massive operation, but if it means everyone has a universal, then i'm all for tryin it.

Well i have started off a little interest. doesn't look like its going to be easy.
Im sure someone must post on this forum who works for HTC maybe they might come out of the woodwork if they know money is involved
Maybe a few words from the moderators would be nice :lol:

Unlocked, Brand new M5000 for sale with 4gb SD...

...All...
Sorry if this is in the wrong section.
I've been sent an M5000 by Orange today, but it's really not for me.
I've charged the battery, switched it on, and don't know where to start! I'm selling it as brand new because it is. It has been unlocked (using code provided by Orange), so can accept any SIM card without any issues.
I also will include a 4gb SD card which would complete the perfect package for any person who it would suit (alas, this is not me!)..
Anybody interested please PM me with offers or call +353851002101. I am located in Ireland, but will send anywhere necessary.
Kind thanks to all...
Ben.

Wow! You got your unlock code the same day as you got your phone?
How did you do this? I had to wait over a week for both of my codes =(

Hmmmmm

I asked Orange for my unlock code yesterday. They seemed only too happy to help, but told me it would take up to 3 weeks for me to receive my code, as they have to (email i think?) the manufacturer....
Forgive our scepticism, can you offer any proof that it is unlocked?

Thanks for your interest...
Attached is a screen dump showing the email that Orange sent to me. I am a business customer and have been so for a long time, and my agreement with Orange is that any handset I upgrade to is unlocked immediately, as I travel abroad regularly (mainly between the UK, Ireland and Singapore).
I bought the 4gb SD from an eBay seller in the States, and received it before I received the handset..bit of a waste really since I will not be keeping the phone! But for info, I have tested it and it is working.
If any further info is required, please just ask.

OT but important
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How much do you want for it ? Do you accept Paypal? And last, do you ship to Portugal? If so for how much ?

Best offer so far is EUR 610 before postage, potential buyer just getting his funds together. But, obviously, if you can beat his offer - it's yours. Shipping to Portugal is of course no problem, and PayPal is accepted (if absolutely necessary). Would you be able to send a cheque instead? PayPal fees are quite high!

ben_ifa said:
Best offer so far is EUR 610 before postage!
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Yowser that's STEEP!......over £400! You could sign up, get the phone and pay off the minimum term of the contract for that.
I get around £275 for as-new unlocked execs on ebay but currently only have used locked m5000's.
I've seen m5000's go on ebay for as little as £210.
Richard

Well, admittedly the buyer that offered EUR610 hasn't actually paid yet! But remember, the 4GB SD card adds at least EUR100 to the price.. Plus the fact it's unlocked.

My shipment is Missed! your advice please

Gentlemen,
I need your advice.
I purchased HTC Touch HD ,more than one, devices with some accessories from (www. . . . . .co.uk) website last Wed 17-Dec-2008 and it was shipped through a well known courier company. It was expected to be delivered on Dec20.
I followed up with the two parties.
Conclusion: the shipment is confirmed to be missed (lost) and can not be traced.
The sender company representative emailed me today that I should wait until all parties' offices open after Xmas leave and until that they can not assist me.
I live outside UK.
1-What should I do?
2-What compensation I'm entitled to claim?
Your advice please.
Thank you.

aiamb1 said:
Gentlemen,
I need your advice.
I purchased HTC Touch HD ,more than one, devices with some accessories from www.company.co.uk website last Wed 17-Dec-2008 and it was shipped through a well known courier company. It was expected to be delivered on Dec20.
I followed up with the two parties.
Conclusion: the shipment is confirmed to be missed and can not be traced.
The sender company representative emailed me today that I should wait until all parties' offices open after Xmas leave and until that they can not assist me.
I live outside UK.
1-What should I do?
2-What compensation I'm entitled to claim?
Your advice please.
Thank you.
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that website don't work for me????????
and i live in the u.k
i get lead to this http://www.hearstdigital.co.uk/ .....well this is where i get to after a bit of reading.....all seams strange to me....how did you pay....
please don't say western union
i hope brought it on a credit card
how much was each phone? if way cheaper than normal....the alarm bells should have been ringing....very loud!

The forum editor changed my writing to a hyperlink.
I have updated my first post.
I prefer not to announce the company name until the matter is closed negatively with them.
FYI, I paid through google check out service.

The company is one of the official listed retail stores in HTC webite:
http://www.htc.com/uk/where_to_buy.aspx

google the company and see if they have any problems in the past.....
with out naming them....i can't help you.....sorry and good luck

Hello,
I am looking to purchase the Touch HD asap. I found a UK seller called Electronics system (Dave Peter) but his price is very low at $330 shipped to Los Angeles. Just emailed him now, to see if he can take credit cards through a PayPal type service. Are there any places you would recommend to purchase from?
Thanks!
Ashton

AshMa said:
I am looking to purchase the Touch HD asap. I found a UK seller called Electronics system (Dave Peter) but his price is very low at $330 shipped to Los Angeles. Just emailed him now, to see if he can take credit cards through a PayPal type service. Are there any places you would recommend to purchase from?
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I've had very good experience with clove.co.uk.
The $330 price is suspiciously low - significantly lower than what I've paid for with 2 year contract

I bet it was those horrid people at DHL or BusinessPost.

Thanks DigiMagic, I now agree. But with all the pain issues, I've been reading about here, I think I may hold off on a purchase.

Any Advice gentelmen?

so to the OP you live in the U.S.? where did u order from? if need be PM me, i just ordered from a website this past weekend and want to make sure i didn't order from the one you did

I love HTC brand, but....

Dear friends of XDA, I really love HTC brand. But when you spend us$1000 for mobile device, at least U want it work.
HTC said to me, I have to send my phone for service in China, the other side of the world becouse I live in Agrentina.
It is not a cheap phone, what do you mean about HTC service system?
I was so angry, so I make this site: www.htc-eatmyshorts.com.ar . Id you have any similar problem with us friend HTC, in a litle time U can leave your comment in there.
Sorry about my english.

you spent $1000 on an HD2?

you got ripped off ? even when the HD2 was released it was no where near $1000 . HTC has nothing to do with it, and law does not protect the stupid. No offense.

kawazaki said:
you got ripped off ? even when the HD2 was released it was no where near $1000 . HTC has nothing to do with it, and law does not protect the stupid. No offense.
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Well it still costs 1000 USD here in Turkey. The desire HD has a lower retail price than the HD2, unbelievable right? Well that's just the way things are in some markets. Here you can get and experia 10 for about 200 dollars less than a hd2. The iphone 4 on the other hand cost 1500 the last time I checked. That is a 600 dollar phone in the US if I'm not mistaken. So some markets have their quirks.....

yilmaz101 said:
Well it still costs 1000 USD here in Turkey. The desire HD has a lower retail price than the HD2, unbelievable right? Well that's just the way things are in some markets. Here you can get and experia 10 for about 200 dollars less than a hd2. The iphone 4 on the other hand cost 1500 the last time I checked. That is a 600 dollar phone in the US if I'm not mistaken. So some markets have their quirks.....
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Man that SUCKS!!!!! They are way over charging you guy cover there, I truly feel for you. I would order my devices of the internet from sellers in other parts of the world to not have to pay so much.
That is a flat outrage man.

With a lot less offense, I can tell you that the law does not protect people with low IQ. But it does not matter if it costs 500 600 or 1200.
On this site you can find it as a cell phone in our country.
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar...sire-hd-andoride-22-wifi-gps-camara-80-mp-_JM
Today, you can say you learned something!
guauuu! Congratulations!

My HD2 T9193 was $949. I know how you feel, OP.

Making another site to screw them isn't enough.
I once been told that my world wide warranty isnt support in Malaysia.
WTH? Does worldwide exclude malaysia? lolx
With the warranty book it self and my purchase receipt, i can get it fix in any HTC service center world wide, why not malaysia?

HD 2Clone
HD2 Clone
i bought a clone one of HTC HD and work like 95% of the original with androide 2.2 even have more functions like the TV from the below site and they are trustable even give you warranty :
Fastcardtech

T-Macgnolia said:
Man that SUCKS!!!!! They are way over charging you guy cover there, I truly feel for you. I would order my devices of the internet from sellers in other parts of the world to not have to pay so much.
That is a flat outrage man.
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Well I wish we could but in Turkey we get access to networks with whitelsited devices. Where as in many countries they have blacklists where devices are banned from networks for a variety of reasons, in Turkey we have a whitelist where devices that are allowed netork access are listed. So anytime you have a foreign phone you can only use it for about 1 month before it gets removed from networks, unless you register it. To register you have to either provide proof of purchase from Turkey, or register it using a passaport, within one month of returning from abroad. An individual can only register one device every two years. So even buying a phone cheap abroad is no solution. Also cell phones are retained by customs when they are shipped by mail or parcel. So we either fork over the dough, or buy a phone every other year whenever we travel. I bought a touch pro back in 2009 in Austin for 300 bucks and used that until lastsummer when I had an HD2 brought over from Detroit by relatives. This summmer I may have a lyer brought over or if I go abroad bring over one myself. Otherwise we have to pay anywhere from 50 -100 % premium prices for some devices.

yilmaz101 said:
Well I wish we could but in Turkey we get access to networks with whitelsited devices. Where as in many countries they have blacklists where devices are banned from networks for a variety of reasons, in Turkey we have a whitelist where devices that are allowed netork access are listed. So anytime you have a foreign phone you can only use it for about 1 month before it gets removed from networks, unless you register it. To register you have to either provide proof of purchase from Turkey, or register it using a passaport, within one month of returning from abroad. An individual can only register one device every two years. So even buying a phone cheap abroad is no solution. Also cell phones are retained by customs when they are shipped by mail or parcel. So we either fork over the dough, or buy a phone every other year whenever we travel. I bought a touch pro back in 2009 in Austin for 300 bucks and used that until lastsummer when I had an HD2 brought over from Detroit by relatives. This summmer I may have a lyer brought over or if I go abroad bring over one myself. Otherwise we have to pay anywhere from 50 -100 % premium prices for some devices.
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god bless America...

yilmaz101 said:
Well I wish we could but in Turkey we get access to networks with whitelsited devices. Where as in many countries they have blacklists where devices are banned from networks for a variety of reasons, in Turkey we have a whitelist where devices that are allowed netork access are listed. So anytime you have a foreign phone you can only use it for about 1 month before it gets removed from networks, unless you register it. To register you have to either provide proof of purchase from Turkey, or register it using a passaport, within one month of returning from abroad. An individual can only register one device every two years. So even buying a phone cheap abroad is no solution. Also cell phones are retained by customs when they are shipped by mail or parcel. So we either fork over the dough, or buy a phone every other year whenever we travel. I bought a touch pro back in 2009 in Austin for 300 bucks and used that until lastsummer when I had an HD2 brought over from Detroit by relatives. This summmer I may have a lyer brought over or if I go abroad bring over one myself. Otherwise we have to pay anywhere from 50 -100 % premium prices for some devices.
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Man I hate to here you say that. That is so unfair but different countries have different rules, and they are not always fair rules. I wonder why things arecso strict on mobile devices in your country? I hope one day things will change in your country for you.

Thanks for you attention!
I have to thank you for your help against a giant, your company just keeps me going. We must not allow abuse of our rights. And if we have to push for large enterprises to meet their obligations.
Count on me for what I can help you.
Gerardo Zimperz.
http://htc-eatmyshorts.com.ar
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hi guys,
to share the experiece here in my country (sri lanka), a person cant import his own device from overseas. because phones with gps facility are said to be banned in the country. (because of the civil war we had until last year) but if u go out to the market there are all the phones for sale for much higher prices. i phone 4 is around 1200usd. hd2 is around 700usd. it was 1000usd when it first came to the market.
so the only way if u want to buy a phone for the actual price is to get it from another country and bring it back as ur personal phone. (that gps law applies only if the phone arrives by mail!!!!) what i do is buy at ebay, get it delivered to a friend in us who would visit recently. some countries do have useless, outrageous regulations indeed.

yilmaz101 said:
Well I wish we could but in Turkey we get access to networks with whitelsited devices. Where as in many countries they have blacklists where devices are banned from networks for a variety of reasons, in Turkey we have a whitelist where devices that are allowed netork access are listed. So anytime you have a foreign phone you can only use it for about 1 month before it gets removed from networks, unless you register it. To register you have to either provide proof of purchase from Turkey, or register it using a passaport, within one month of returning from abroad. An individual can only register one device every two years. So even buying a phone cheap abroad is no solution. Also cell phones are retained by customs when they are shipped by mail or parcel. So we either fork over the dough, or buy a phone every other year whenever we travel. I bought a touch pro back in 2009 in Austin for 300 bucks and used that until lastsummer when I had an HD2 brought over from Detroit by relatives. This summmer I may have a lyer brought over or if I go abroad bring over one myself. Otherwise we have to pay anywhere from 50 -100 % premium prices for some devices.
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I don´t know how any enterprice whit this kind of responses can be 2 3 or 4 year, one of the most important of the world...
Dell replace me a notebook in 3 days, becouse it fault one time... thats a goot service. I dont have to fight with nobody in the company. ONE CALL WAS ENOUGHT!
Bye, thanks and be fine!

I had a problem with my HD2 as well, this is under 1 year after purchase (warranty covered). HTC has a local distributor that takes care of repairs for phones bought locally. However, I took my phone there and they said they are not authorized to repair it since I bought it abroad. They told me they had the part in stock and could fix it easily. I asked if I could just pay them for the repair. They said no they are not authorized to touch my phone. So I called HTC and they told me to send them an email explaining the problem. I did so.
Their first reply was, shall we say, idiotic. They basically didn't read my email and told me to send it to Singapore, but didn't give me an RMA number or any way to track it, no instructions on how to mail it and wanted me to pay S$54 but gave me no instructions on how I was to pay that fee. I replied saying basically the above, then I get a call from my local distributor who tells me they are authorized to do the repair now. I have my phone back and, fingers crossed, its looking good.
Here is where I have an issue with the OP. There is no reason why HTC would tell you to send the phone to China. HTC is a Taiwanese company not Chinese. From Argentina, the worst case scenario is that you send the phone to Taiwan, not China. However, the distribution chain is local. That is if you bought your phone in Argentina, then the local distributor there is responsible for repairs. You should be mad at them for refusing to do the repair (which might be illegal in your country, it is in mine) not necessarily HTC (though there might be plenty of other reasons to be mad at HTC).
If you bought your phone through some grey market importer, which is something we have here as well, then you get a discount in exchange for no warranty. I buy products in HK this way when I am ready to buy and throw it away. For something like a high end phone though, I require warranty support.

You're right. That's exactly what I think.
The reality is that I've delivered to more than 10 tickest in different repair centers, because they themselves have asked me.
I spent a lot of money to talk to Luis .. and others who answer the phone politely. The problem is that when you end the call, you think ... this man did not answer anything, just sent me, so that the problem is solved by someone else.
Post or register a domain, not just to waste time or hurt my favorite company. It is because I have more resources and I feel very cheated.
Apparently there may be a solution, yet I have faith. I do not wish, to publish the emails, where practically laugh about me a the problem he made my, but if necessary I will do to show you that this is true.
I never tire of thanking the support I provide the forum. In fact I propose where it belongs, a place that I have available to store files, free.
Thank you very much for your time!
Gerardo
http://htc-eatmyshorts.com.ar

Guys are you sure you're talking about the USD in all of your posts? Have you converted it from local currency to USD? If so that's an outrageous price.
What's wrong with your phone? We can probably help here on XDA.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I am very sorry to hear that. If I may offer you advice based on my own experience with HTC, have you tried to call the support at their headquarters in Taipei? +886-266-391-147 Mon - Sat 8 am - 8 pm (+8GMT). Its not useful, they will tell you to email with anything complex. However, get the name of the person you talked to and then address the email to that person. The first reply will be useless, but keep replying to the email, be polite, not angry, but insist on getting their help.
If that fails, find out who your local distributor is, if you don't already know. Then contact the corporate number and ask to speak with the department in charge of distribution. Report your distributor to them and let them know about your website. Put your website in Spanish and target it at South Americans and start a Facebook page for it targeted at South Americans and get as many people as you can to sign up for it. This is far more effective as a tool of extortion to get megacorps to do something about your crooked distributor. I've used this tactic with other companies effectively.
As for XDA being able to help you fix it, its possible, but if your problem was like mine, then you need a new mainboard. Its a manufacturing defect of the HD2.
@Skellyyy, yeah its accurate. The prices can vary wildly, its a huge pain. While, for example, the HD2 can be US$1000, another phone can be US$150 and US$1000 in another location. I have a lot of experience in this. Here, there is a large VAT and frequently only one distributor of a brand and they can charge whatever they want if there is no strict pricing control from the original brand.
The best mass market prices are for electronics like Samsung, LG, Nokia, Acer where the parent company is the distributor or retains tight control of local price. Then we have a corrupt and ridiculous customs office, so buying via the internet can be equally expensive. Personally, I choose to not support any of these practices. I queue up a list of big ticket stuff I want to buy and take a first class trip to Singapore or Hong Kong and bring the things back with me or use a shipper that I know can avoid the extremes of customs corruption. With the savings I get buying this way, I basically get a free vacation.
When I lived in Europe, I used to hate the fact that prices would be the same number value as in the US but in Sterling (eg a laptop in the US was priced at US$1000 and then priced at UK£1000 in the UK). This is so unfair and while I lived there I was far more circumspect in what I brought. Its funny but the system there, in a way, is similar to what it is where I live now. Its a PIA and can make buying online almost as expensive as buying locally. While there, I similarly waited for a trip to the US to buy big ticket electronics.
Buying electronics when I was living in the US was the best experience. Choice, great prices, online shopping, its all very good. However, its the absolute worst system for buying phones. I hated buying phones in the US far more than anywhere else I have lived. The lack of options, the ridiculous carrier control, a required contract for buying almost any phone, for a free country, its the least free place to buy a phone and there is no escape is there? Canada is just as bad and Mexico is no place to go to buy electronics.
Of all the places I've shopped I think the best experience in buying a phone, for me, is in HK. You have to be an educated buyer, know how to haggle and be ready to pay in cash but you can get the best deals. These days, you don't even need to know how to speak Cantonese. As long as you can speak Mandarin, you can find lots of vendors to haggle with. Then there is the option to skip all the hassle if you want and pay the regular price in a place like Fortress. As a bonus you can choose either the EFIGS or CJK version of the phone there. Then they get all the newest phones the fastest. Its like a capitalist market haven for buying a phone.

actually the most expensive htc phone in turkey costs 900$

[Q] the unlocked nexus 4 will be sold in t-mobile stores without a 2 years contract?

Hello everyone, this end of the month I will go on vacation in New York from Italy, and I'd love to buy the new nexus 4, but obviously I can not use the play store not having neither a credit card nor a U.S. place of dispatch . I saw, however, that tmobile will sell in their stores, I was wondering if in addition to the version with contract tmobile also sold only the phone, just in case a higher price than the playstore 349usd. thank you very much in advance.

"Rumor" has it T-Mobile USA will market it up to $ 500.00 without a contract (witch I find ridiculous) BUT that hasn't been confirmed .. At this point they are all speculations.

VictorNYC said:
"Rumor" has it T-Mobile USA will market up to $ 500.00 with out a contact (witch I find ridiculous) BUT that hasn't been confirmed .. At this point buddy they are all speculations.
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thank you dear, I'll see to seek confirmation of these rumors, in the meantime look for some other user to know something more

If the markup turns out to be ridiculous (charging 500 USD for a 350 USD phone) then call your hotel (or wherever you're staying) and see if you can get packages delivered there. The delivery should take less than 5-6 business days, so it's doable if you're staying in America more than a week. If that's not the case, then you could always find a quick free vpn trial, vpn to America and purchase the phone before you get here so it's at your hotel before you are (just have them hold it if they will, again make sure it's ok before you do so). Good luck! Enjoy your stay!

Vertana said:
If the markup turns out to be ridiculous (charging 500 USD for a 350 USD phone) then call your hotel (or wherever you're staying) and see if you can get packages delivered there. The delivery should take less than 5-6 business days, so it's doable if you're staying in America more than a week. If that's not the case, then you could always find a quick free vpn trial, vpn to America and purchase the phone before you get here so it's at your hotel before you are (just have them hold it if they will, again make sure it's ok before you do so). Good luck! Enjoy your stay!
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Unfortunately my problem is: to buy something on playstore U.S. you have to pay with a American credit card , which unfortunately (and I would say of course ) I did not. I had also thought to send me the N4 to the apartment but would be very risky and unreliable. the only solution would be to find someone who will buy me , but who has all this trust in others?
ps: I'd buy it for 500usd I must admit, that the currency exchange is always much less than 549euros that would 700usd. I would only confirm that it is sold in tmobile stores

0714 said:
Unfortunately my problem is: to buy something on playstore U.S. you have to pay with a American credit card , which unfortunately (and I would say of course ) I did not. I had also thought to send me the N4 to the apartment but would be very risky and unreliable. the only solution would be to find someone who will buy me , but who has all this trust in others?
ps: I'd buy it for 500usd I must admit, that the currency exchange is always much less than 549euros that would 700usd. I would only confirm that it is sold in tmobile stores
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Really the trust only has to go one way. If you are willing to take the chance then you pay in advance and you are the only one that needs to trust. If you want the other person to send the phone without getting paid first then that person is the only one that needs to trust someone. You could check with some bank to be the go between and let them hold your money until they get the phone.

donec said:
Really the trust only has to go one way. If you are willing to take the chance then you pay in advance and you are the only one that needs to trust. If you want the other person to send the phone without getting paid first then that person is the only one that needs to trust someone. You could check with some bank to be the go between and let them hold your money until they get the phone.
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it is still a complicated and difficult to accomplish. whether I trusted, to give money to someone I do not know (which I do not think I'd do) and if someone you trust to loan me the money. not to mention that I would only public transportation in a city that does not know to pick up the box. of course now I will try other solutions and this will take it into consideration only as a last choice. plus I also find this person that would make me the favor. thanks anyway for your suggestion.
however, still no news / certainty that n4 is sold without a contract?

has anyone had any new news about my question?