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GPS stopped working after two days

After hard reset I am able to use TT7 and Google maps with GPS for two days and then the GPS cannot be found. I installed the Nadavi_HTC GPS tool from the Polaris forum and again the GPS cannot be found.
I’ve read elsewhere in this forum that other people are having the same problem yet the tread just stopped with no solution.
I have no GPS problems with both my Polaris and Diamond.
Anyone have any idea’s or suggestions?

Same issue...
And unable to download A-GPS update (download up to 77% than says "connexion fails. Please try again later") - updating was OK (and GPS also OK) last week :-(((
Other users have the same problem on the french forums...

eyaeya said:
And unable to download A-GPS update (download up to 77% than says "connexion fails. Please try again later")
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That's a general internet connection error. Is the device set to use a proxy?

Hard Reset the device and the same fault developed after two days.
No one else having the same problem??

Hmmm, seems odd that it's after two days (i.e. a time limited thing)
Have you tried turning off assisted GPS and then resetting again?
It's just that the assisted GPS thing does have a time limit on it

arfster said:
That's a general internet connection error. Is the device set to use a proxy?
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I doubt it's an Internet connection issue, because it was perfectly working last week, and all the other Inetrent-enables apps (Meteo, Opera,...) are working.
It's more like a driver ou dll issue, that prevent the OS from communicating with the GPS. It would explain both with the GPS is not working, and why the a-GPS update can't be done (my guess is the upload of the ephemeris from the net to the app is done correctly, but that the app cannot upload it to the GPS)

Thanks eyaeya, I think you could be onto something...I read in another post that there could be a conflict between the VoIP drivers and GPS drivers. Have reset the phone yet again and will wait and see..
Update and GPS is operating for the time being.

Digging the system...
I did a full backup, and a hard reset : the QuickGPS HTC app (A-GPS ephemeris downloading) is working, as well as VisualGPSCe (both were not working before the hard reset).
Restored the backup : both are not working again :-(
Open the registry : found 87 instances of "GPS"... I'm going to check the values in the 2 version of the registries... maybe we'll have a clue ! And if not, I'll check the windows/systems files. If I don't find something, I'll reinstall all the apps one after the other anc will check the GPS functionnality after each (BTW, thanks for the VoIP driver tip : I've installed Skype, Fring, SJPhone Beta, WM6oIP,SIPCOnfig 2.0.1, so one of them may be fooling me around)
Will keep you updated...
-update 1-
I've been quickly comparing the registries with Word.. haven't found any valuable information yet
I also compared the\windows directories with winmerge (which does a binary comparison) : some differences, but nothing linked to a driver or dll...
I'll try to restored the backup set (the one I did after the hard reste) to see if it makes the GPS working, or if I have to go through a hard reset again (which would mean the issue would be somewhere in the chip itself, or in some non-volatile mem...)
-update 2-
I've being paying with backups forth & back... If I restore the backup I did after he HardRest+few programs installed, the GPS is working again. SO I just have to find what in the bakcup is making it work again => system file ? registry key ?
Anyway, it shows that we should be able to restore the GPS function without going through a HardReset.
-update 3-
I tried to restore the backup I did before my first hard reste, but without the registry - after that the HTC asked me if it should activate some .exe and .dll (including the VoIPcanvas.dll) ; tried the GPS (with visualGPSCe) : didn't work :-(
I was wondering if some GPS dll could have been modified in the restoration process. There are a bunch of files that deal with GPS :
\Windows :
CleanGPSData (exe?)
CleanGPSData
GPS-icon (icon)
gpsapi
GPSAux
GPSAux.dll.040C
gpsdriver
gpsid
gpsid_HTC
mxiupdate_PA... (4 files)
QGPS_BUT_L (icon)
QGPS_BUT_L2 (icon)
QGPS_BUT_P (icon)
QGPS_BUT_P2 (icon)
QuickGPS
QuickGPS.Exe
QuickGPS (Htlm file)
QuickGPS
QuickGPS_help
However, I couldn't find them in the backup file (I use SPB Backup, which I recommend : you can extract all the files and registry from the backup set to your hard drive). Went to the HTC with resco explorer (you need to deactivate "hide system/Rom files") : those are ROM files, so they are not modified in the restoration process...
--update 4--
Did the same restore as above (update 3) but without accepting the .exe and .dll (warning at loggon) : GPS still not working. I ran "\windows\CleanGPSdata" : GPS still not working.
I found were the ephemeris are stored : \windows\xtra.bin (the registry keys are under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS] : "folder"="\\Windows\\", "path"="", "EEFile"="xtra.bin"). I'm going to play with those, and check they are not corrupted.
--update 5--
I managed to have the GPS working again ! This involved resetting the registry (ie installing the one I backuped after the HardReset), deleting some files (\windows\xtra.bin, GPSLogFile.txt, GPSLogFileBack.txt), desinstalling TomTom as well as all the other VoIP apps, and rebooting.
I'm going to try to reproduce
--update 6--
I've been able to have the GPS working again, without any restoring, just by deleting/modifying some registry entries, deleting some files, and de-installing some progs. Looks like the VoIP functionnality is the one that was messing everything (check if you have VoIPphonecanvas.dll).
Will try to dust my procedure, to remove unecessary steps, and I will post i here

Just to give some hope to those having a GPS issue
Up. Just to give some hope to those having a GPS issue.

ayaeya, looks like you have put in a lot of effort to help us out. Thanks!
My GPS has worked fine for the last few days. I did not install the VoIP program or Skype.
I have attached the VoIP cab that I used on the HD whiched worked fine on my Diamond and Polaris. Both phone do not suffer the same fault.
The only other program I have installed in TomTom 7.4 and I installed Google Maps directly from Google and did not use the version which came with the phone.

easy solution
Had the same problem. Am very grateful for eyaeyas solution. Tried deleting
\windows\xtra.bin, GPSLogFile.txt, GPSLogFileBack.txt. Still no success. Found another copy of xtra.bin in /temp and deleted it. Immediate success!!
So, to recap:
Delete following and soft reset:
\windows\xtra.bin
\windows\GPSLogFile.txt
\windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
\temp\xtra.bin
(actually, it seems like the problem lies in the two instances of xtra.bin, which, I think, contains ephemeris information, so maybe it is enogh to delete these)
Remember to get new ephemeris file (fast gps) to speed things up.
mikdyb

i'm facing the same problem
suddenly gps stopped functioning
quick gps can't be updated and garmin can't find gps device
com port is set to 4
i follow the instructions and deleted this files and soft reset but no luck
\windows\xtra.bin
\windows\GPSLogFile.txt
\windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
\temp\xtra.bin
any other options :S

i also have problem with GPS on my HD..
I was using Igo8 and everything was fine...
but in one moment its stoped working..
Igo find gps on port 4 but no signal no satelites...
what to do?

works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682 . d

igo8/2006 doesn't work

hello,
can anyone tell me hoe to get igo8 to work ?
i've installed it, but it doesn't start ..
i've tried igo2006 but it doesn't work aswell..
i can't get them to start at all...
thanks

...
hello, in my jade igo 2008 perfectly. Have you configured it?.

i don't know how..
i've copied the 2277 and igo folders to my card, run the autorun, and copied the crack to the jade..
what else must i do ?
thanks.

You have to try more versions, for me running 8.0.0.49545 and 8.3.1.xxxxx, but I have problem with fixing satellites, it is periodically fixed and unfixed in 1 sec period... Only sometimes fixed ok :-(

i don't think it's a version problem, because igo 2006 does the same thing..
i don't know how to configure them...
can anyone tell me what i have to do after i've installed the programs ?

Igo2006 nor running under wm6.1, some patch exists, but I didn't try them. I never install Igo, only copy it to sd card, you have check the right path in sys.txt
[folders]
app="Internal Storage/iGO8"

i've tried that, still doesn't work..

Victor, what version of iGO8 are you trying to run. Version 8.0.0.49545 is definately working on my Jade with only one major caveat: switching off the display (by pressing the top button) causes communication failure with the GPS and requires a restart of iGO8 in order to rediscover the GPS.

thanx a lot for your help..
i finally managed to crack it , and it works just fine..

@victorpagu May be you had problems with licenses?

Maybe you should read more than 5 words... And with this patch running only Igo2006+

Work! Attached the pictures.

I got igo8 to work..
I don't know what the problem was..Probably the license or the data archive..
Thanks for your help !

And you sure it is Igo2006, not 2006+? I test patched Igo and working, but it is latest Igo 2006+ with new developed patch for Diamond due to wm6.1!

Alekss_UH, how did you solve fix and an unfix problem with GPS each second?
I have TT v7.9 and iGO 8.3.1.57021 and both have the same problem with GPS in my JADE.
Don't know how to solve...

REAL WORKING QuickGPS for trinity

Hello everyone,
first merry x-mas.
I spended a whole afternoon to find the accelerator of GPS for my trinity.
on the forum, there are three tools exist:
1. QGPS from http://www.avaricum.net/qgps.cab
2. SeaSGEE
3. a modified QuickGPS from P3300
QGPS is unique FOR HP DEVICE, SeaSGEE and the QuickGPS from P3300 are FOR SiRF Star chips which download a "packedEphemeris.ee" to the windows root.
It's been a misunderstood on this forum that many members think that trinity has a SiRF Star Chips.
But, as a matter of factor, what's in trinity is a Qualcomm gpsONE chipset. (qualcomm 6280). And the right satellite map file for qualcomm chipset is "xtra.bin".
So actually, trinity MUST use the same QuickGPS as Kaiser or Diamond which use the same Qualcomm BRAND.
Somehow the quickGPS is coded uniquely for Kaiser or diamond, on trinity it will say connetion failed.
With some luck I found the quickgps.exe cracked for any deviced, version which download xtra.bin instead of packedEphemeris.ee
Tested after a hard reset (so that's sure that will be a cold start of the gps), and the quickgps really works like a charm, tomtom finished his first location within 30 seconds.
Hope this will be helpful for all of you. good luck

At last a quick gps that works.
thanks for sharing

Thanks. It works properly in my Tinity. I've just renamed QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui to QuickGPS.exe.0C0A.mui, because I use a Spanish ROM.
Best Regards !

Hi,
Are you sure that it's working ?
I've just try the cab.
It's download the xtra.bin from the webserver but it didn't upload it to the radio module.
I enabled "AT command debug" for retrieving the content of the exchange from the PPC part (samsung) and the MSM6275.
Connection to the GPS port send the [email protected] commant but didnt upload the xtra.bin...
And i've just try to have a fix on my place.
It's take exactly the same time as before.
For your information, the msm6275 retrieve the ephemeris over the air thru the low speed like provided by the GPS system.
This , as read on the Trinity Service Manual, take 35 sec on average.
This Ephemeris is stocked on the radio part of the MSM6275.
It's have 4 hour of validity time.
So, if you try to connect , even after hard reset (since hard reset only reset the ppc part), this ephemeris is ok.
You will normally have a fix within 15 sec in this case.
I also have found the best way to improve the fix time on the trinity.
You have to use he "GPS sharing" fonction provided by wm.
I set it to share the GPS on COM4 . The original GPS COM port is COM9.
After that, i start a GPS information software on COM4 and also TOMTOM at the same time.
I have to also be on stationned position ( car stopped ).
The fix take less than 35 sec in 95% of the case.
Canope

I am usually a sceptic when it comes to those tools but I just installed this (also had to rename Windows/QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui, in my case to QuickGPS.exe.0407.mui for German ROM).
I went outside and I got a fix in about 45 seconds which is unusual for my street. I'll keep an eye on the GPS fix times.
EDIT: I just read what canope wrote and now I'm not so sure if my mind wasn't just playing tricks on me. Debugging the AT commands seems a more scientific method. Could someone do the same for a device like Kaiser or Diamond to check if the upload can be seen there?

Italian MUI
My italian mui for this QuickGps version

i'am using a portuguese rom any help to put it working ?

Yes: go to your windows dir, look for files ending with XXXX.mui.dll to find out what the portuguese number is (XXXX for germany is 0407).
Then copy Windows/QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui to your PC, change 0409 to the ID you found and copy it back.
You can then delete the english QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui if you want.
This will make it appear to work but as canope pointed out it may well be equally useless as all earlier tools for Trinity.

hello canope,
u give me a right way to verify it.
I enabled both my trinity and diamond.
based on the log file, diamond doesnt show a upload command neither.
I dont know if at log will write down this action.
I can understand why u think the xtra.bin is not uploaded. the SiRF Star chip absorts the packedEphemeris.ee, and the file will disappear in windows root. (based on my knowledge of tomtom one 1)
Somehow Qualcomm chip doesnt act the same way, it leaves xtra.bin in windows root all the time. (based on my test on diamond)
besides, the log file is uploaded, u can see the diamond dont even show [email protected] command after starting a Tomtom

This tool definitely works. Fix within 30 secs with Google Maps and haven't used GPS on this ROM yet.

Hi, can you try this sequence on the diamond, with atdbgcmd on:
- shutdown it;
- start it;
- launch quickgps, update the ephemeris;
- start tomtom or other gps client;
- copy the atdbg file located on /temp to another place;
You will normally see commands like [email protected]
the [email protected] is hardcoded on the quickgps binary file.
themaskfly said:
hello canope,
u give me a right way to verify it.
I enabled both my trinity and diamond.
based on the log file, diamond doesnt show a upload command neither.
I dont know if at log will write down this action.
I can understand why u think the xtra.bin is not uploaded. the SiRF Star chip absorts the packedEphemeris.ee, and the file will disappear in windows root. (based on my knowledge of tomtom one 1)
Somehow Qualcomm chip doesnt act the same way, it leaves xtra.bin in windows root all the time. (based on my test on diamond)
besides, the log file is uploaded, u can see the diamond dont even show [email protected] command after starting a Tomtom
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canope said:
Hi, can you try this sequence on the diamond, with atdbgcmd on:
- shutdown it;
- start it;
- launch quickgps, update the ephemeris;
- start tomtom or other gps client;
- copy the atdbg file located on /temp to another place;
You will normally see commands like [email protected]
the [email protected] is hardcoded on the quickgps binary file.
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hello, the log i have uploaded is actually the sequences u demend.

Did you have taskmanager on your mobile phone ?
I've noticed something strange on the at command logs.
There is an agpsadress setted.
I'm interrested to know which diamond rom version you have ?
themaskfly said:
hello, the log i have uploaded is actually the sequences u demend.
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canope said:
Did you have taskmanager on your mobile phone ?
I've noticed something strange on the at command logs.
There is an agpsadress setted.
I'm interrested to know which diamond rom version you have ?
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yes, i noticed that too. the rom is official RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
[email protected] may have string in QuickGPS code, yet it's on propose for the acient device such as p3300 (SiRF STAR again) which i can recell it's where the first version of quickgps is found. the programmer normally doesnt rewrite the code completely.
another exemple is the log file I have provided, diamond doesnt even have [email protected] which trinity has. different devices have some different AT commands.
For another deep study case, I found the gps tool in the forum, which explain how ＠setgps works (cool, warm, hot, xtra start) just use setgps.exe and restart the device.
One thing I must point out, on the SiRF STAR chip, packedEphemeris.ee is upload automaticly by the code of windows ce, quickgps has nothing coded to do with the upload thing. if you place a packedEphemeris.ee in the windows root (a sirf star chip of cause), modify HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\EE\AcessTime, the packedEphemeris.ee will be uploaded and disappear.

Thanx
one Question: Dose it effect Battery?

This confirm my feeling.
QuickGPS cannot work on the trinity.
For me, the ephemeris is uploaded by something else.
I think it uploaded by the rilgsm.dll.
This file contain the ril driver specifically made for the device.
So, for me , the rilgsm.dll Diamond's files is in charge of the uploading.
Can you send me back this file for the diamond ?
For your information, i was the first one who have gps fonction on the trinity .
Check on the forum, you will find my contribution to the trinity .
I've send the first radio gsm enabled rom and the necessary files ( rilgsm.dll included).
So , for me , the rilgsm il in charge of this actions.
themaskfly said:
yes, i noticed that too. the rom is official RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
[email protected] may have string in QuickGPS code, yet it's on propose for the acient device such as p3300 (SiRF STAR again) which i can recell it's where the first version of quickgps is found. the programmer normally doesnt rewrite the code completely.
another exemple is the log file I have provided, diamond doesnt even have [email protected] which trinity has. different devices have some different AT commands.
For another deep study case, I found the gps tool in the forum, which explain how @setgps works (cool, warm, hot, xtra start) just use setgps.exe and restart the device.
One thing I must point out, on the SiRF STAR chip, packedEphemeris.ee is upload automaticly by the code of windows ce, quickgps has nothing coded to do with the upload thing. if you place a packedEphemeris.ee in the windows root (a sirf star chip of cause), modify HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\EE\AcessTime, the packedEphemeris.ee will be uploaded and disappear.
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Hi
I don't know if this quickgps works or not, I can't verify because it's snowing and the fix is difficult. My nmea log is about 90kb and after 5 minutes no fix at all...
But inside the package there is a registry key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"region"="US"
Have you tried to change it to the country you live? And does the server provides information for more than a country?
Ciao

works for me
I'm no expert and don't know anything about the inner working of a GPS but I tryied the file this morning and in a cloudy day while speeding on a motorway got a fix in 30 sec. (+/-) - haven't used the GPS for over a week before this morning -
I had the same fast fix with the latest PDAMobiz ROM's too so there must be a way to speed up the fix on the trinity and really think that this is it
BTW if is just my mind playing games with me - well I'm happy just as well
thanks a lot to themaskfly for posting this and happy new year to all

claros said:
Hi
I don't know if this quickgps works or not, I can't verify because it's snowing and the fix is difficult. My nmea log is about 90kb and after 5 minutes no fix at all...
But inside the package there is a registry key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"region"="US"
Have you tried to change it to the country you live? And does the server provides information for more than a country?
Ciao
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After install, and verify the registry, i already had my région without change it :
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"region"="FR"
Thx

QuickGPS does make a difference
This program really does work! When I used the original HTC Radio ROM 1.46, it was very slow to obtain GPS fixes. But after upgrading to radio 1.56.70.11 (my base ROM is still the original WM6.0 WWE version 3.00.707.18) and installing QuickGPS (with corrected region to download the right data) fixes are now obtained very quickly from a cold start. That is compared to many occasions of waiting about 20 minutes prior to installing this software.
I did have to change the region in the registry [HKLM] - Software\HTC\QuickGPS\region because when I installed it, the default region was the US which also initially accounted for some slow fix times until corrected.

tomtom install

hi,
i'm trying to install tomtom 7.910.9185 on my touch HD (stock orange rom)
if i try to install it to the device, it goes through the install and says its has install successfully, but then i cant find it anywhere and there isnt a shortcut in programs either.
if i install it to the memory card, its seems to install ok, but then i have problems getting a GPS fix (it only gets a fix for a split second before saying that there is no device or its not getting a signal, despite being able to see 8 or more satellites.) and then giving me a fix for a split second again before losing the signal (this is when i'm in the car)
can anyone please point me in the right direction, or tell me what i'm doing wrong.
many thanks

When you install on the device, TomTom installs into the folder "Program Files\Navigator"
After install a shortcut will not show up in your programs tab. You have to make it manually (using active sync, make a shortcut of the "tomtomnavigator.exe" and copy it to "Windows/Start Menu/Programs" ) or use file explorer extension (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421723) and have it automatically make and send a shortcut to Programs.

sorted now.
had to copy the installer onto the device, remove my memory card and install it that way.
now it seems happy enough to find the GPS device and the lag dosent seem too bad.

[Q] Bluetooth stack problem (0x1)

Hello fellow hd mini users!
Here's a nice problem four yous to solve.
All of a sudden my bluetooth stopped working. Nothing happens when I try to start it. The error message I get is that the BT stack can not be loaded (0x1).
I did not install any new software after the last time it did work correctly, and I don't have TomTom installed on my hd mini.
(One possibility I am contemplating, is that CleanRam is the culprit, but I ran it before without problems.)
I don't feel much like a hard reset.
Is there a way to repair or reinstall the radio software ( I found a BTstackTP2.cab somewhere, but I would rather not try this because it is designed for the Touch PRo 2.)
Good luck solving this one!

Check if there is a shortcut of BTTrayCE under Windows\StartUp folder.

BTtrayCE is in the startup directory. And it runs allright (I used Process Manager to check).

In that case, l don't think you will avoid hard reset.

I am having the same problem, Kindly advise
Did anyone fix it ?
Thanks