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Ok, I hope I dont get ripped into for this..but I couldnt find the answer.
I always found the web browsing experience pretty woeful on my X1...esp compared to the ifone. When you scroll up/down its juddery, giving me the two grey squares until it catches up on itself. Its really bad. I have installed various versions of Opera...the one I have stuck with is the version i found on this forum...when zooming you use an invisible scroll top right on the screen (does that make sense?)
Anyhoo, I then installed the superb Touch-it4.5...the version of opera in it is truely awesome! The juddering was gone, silky smooth and had a zoom button bottom left which worked even better than the version I was using...but...the hardware keyboard didnt work (I noticed a few other people had the same issue and the fix was to install another version). When going back, its all juddery again...did anybody get a fix for that version? What version does everybody else use as there are so many floating about.
Also, a little of topic but I was reading about a version of Opera (only on the symbian os so far?) that when you are presented with a bunch of buttons or text boxes (say for example a login/pass box) you simply click on them and it enlarges the boxs to full screen automatically and makes it alot easier to put in usernames/passes etc.
Thanks in advance folks, maybe once we get a complete fool proof guide we could stick the findings into the x1 tweaks, apps and panels thread!
fracmo2000 said:
did anybody get a fix for that version? What version does everybody else use as there are so many floating about.
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Unfortunately the working and non-working items are all within the Opera9.exe itself:
1. Vibration
2. Scroll with optical pad
3. Zoom with volume buttons
4. HW keyboard interaction.
5. PushInternet support
So there's very little chance of a "perfect" Opera version. I use 15991 with Zoom enabled on a PI enabled ROM or 15696 on a non-PI ROM.
You could try and switch on "Smooth Scrolling" in opera:config and see if that helps with the judderiness...
You should wait for 9.7 to be released
I had the exact same issue.
I downloaded Opera 9.5 BETA and it works a charm. The UI is slightly different (colours) to the one installed with 4.5 Touch-IT ROM but it works perfectly for me.
The only issue is that I have to launch it as a seperate program from my start menu. I cannot seem to make it my default browser (I have no idea how to do that!) and how to get the Internet tab "launch browser" to launch Opera 9.5 and not the standard Opera.
Also if you run the standard Opera installed with 4.5 Touch-IT ROM, close it and then try to run Opera 9.5 BETA, it only loads the standard Opera, not 9.5.
I have to turn my phone off and back on to solve this and start using 9.5 from my start menu.
Long winded but its how I cope..
Opera 9.5 b2 with Gears
I use the gears version now.
I had so many problems with logging into sites with the version that ships with the phone that I gave up. The stock version only plays lip-service to being able to use flash anyway so I don't feel I'm losing out.
Also, the caching and navigation to previous pages is way faster in the gears version of the browser. Occasionally it slows down and thinks about things for a little while, and it forcing back to the default keyboard every time you try to enter stuff into a text-box, but its a beta after all so what do you expect?!
Obviously the gears version doesn't have flash support but I can't say I've missed that, since the stock version wasn't that hot anyway ;o)
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The only issue is that I have to launch it as a seperate program from my start menu. I cannot seem to make it my default browser (I have no idea how to do that!) and how to get the Internet tab "launch browser" to launch Opera 9.5 and not the standard Opera.
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If you paste the Opera9.exe, OperaL.exe and setup.dll files in to \Windows Manila will launch whatever version is there - for the second point II think the Manila files need ameding - haven't loooked yet though.
Here is the Link to Opera Mobile's FTP Server to Download the New Beta of Opera Mobile 7 Beta 1:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
I'm Downloading and Installing it now.....Will update you all soon.
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I installed it on my QVGA HTC Touch WM 6.1 (Build 21014) on the SD Card and
It Loads without any lag, Fairly fast. Renders and loads pages Pretty well too. No Major issues so far. Graphics and UI look pretty good. I still have to load the Widget Manager and try it out, never was a big fan of these. I will attempt to post some screen shots, but I am at work and may not be able to.
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KNOWN BETA ISSUES:
Browser
Opera Turbo in Opera Mobile is still a preview-feature;
Downloads don't work while Opera Turbo is enabled.
Some settings (such as toggle on/off images) do not apply when Opera Turbo is enabled.
On older WM 5.0 Devices with 480x800 resolution, switching between portrait and landscape may cause display errors. This is due to lack of support for this resolution in early versions of Microsoft's driver.
Some input method editors are known not to work well with Opera because they do not comply with Microsoft's SIP and/or IME standard. When such an editor is detected by Opera, Opera will use a known (default) input method instead. An exception is EzInput v1.5, where the phone keypad and compact QUERTY, ABC mode doesn't work, but the rest of the modes work fine. We recommend upgrading to EzInput v2.0 to avoid this.
Only support for FlashLite 3.x. No Flash plugin included.
Widget manager add-on
The Widget manager is an add-on to the browser, so the browser must be installed in order for the widget manager to work.
We recommend disabling Opera Turbo in the browser when using the widget manager.
Rotating widgets does not work properly. Portrait mode should be used when running widgets.
Widgets + Plugins (Flash & Gears) don't work.
Clicking internal links in a widget will launch the browser.
Twitter widget might have login problems on first run. If this happens, just close the Twitter widget (X) and open it again.
omg omg omg
downloading..
ill post screensnhots
haha good thing i didn't go to sleep will try and put screen shots too.
omg it has lag!
looks like its not made for all resolutions
qvga looks freaking weird and lags bad :S
Just downloaded an testing ... another link in megaupload with the two cabs: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OWRCCJ4Q
Yeah I installed it a few minutes ago.
It's just a mess. I guess it isn't for QVGA? Anyone with a VGA device have it working right?
lags bad... :S
yea me too just installed it n it didn't even load.
Hopefully they fix this or it will be an extremely disappointing release
It's awesome on my ATT Fuze (VGA), no flash if people care, also the turbo mode seems to load mobile pages perhaps
Are you guys even using the right cab? I did a little research with the folders on the opera.com domain and got to this:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
Download the first cab.
I just tried it on my qvga device and its amazing. NO lag. It runs. Nothing seems messed up. Scrolling is EXTREMELY smooth, it's as smooth as the omnia versions but doesn't suffer with the auto-full screen bug and it doesnt lock up while loading as well.
Opera turbo works, though its disabled by default.
So far, i absolutely LOVE it!
zeuzinn said:
Are you guys even using the right cab? I did a little research with the folders on the opera.com domain and got to this:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
Download the first cab.
I just tried it on my qvga device and its amazing. NO lag. It runs. Nothing seems messed up. Scrolling is EXTREMELY smooth, as smooth as the omnia versions.
Opera turbo works, though its disabled by default.
So far, i absolutely LOVE it!
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I have to agree with zeuzinn, So far it's great on my QVGA Touch. The Link I provided is the only one I found.
This is awesome. Was just wondering about this and was about to go to sleep. Then I hit the New Posts Button. Installing on my Topaz right now.
I gotta say, its MUCH faster than opera 9.5 even with opera turbo disabled, thanks to the new rendering engine.
I just tried the ACID3 test and got 100/100!!!!
can i please get a link to the VGA version ??
ranasrule said:
can i please get a link to the VGA version ??
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This is the only version posted on Opera's FTP as of now.
ems275 said:
This is the only version posted on Opera's FTP as of now.
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so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
What's the difference between the two on the FTP?
ranasrule said:
so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
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I am assuming so, I have a QVGA device and it looks great, but I thought someone else said it worked on VGA too???
ranasrule said:
so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
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umm i think it has both versions in there how ever you can try this one ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/ when i look in the folder i saw a VGA sub folder in there so idk.
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
hey thanks for the response my bay area friend, i'll give it a try
i figured to run the latest release of opera 9.7, so i havent really tested the previous versions. i'll give it a go though, thanks!
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I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
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Same build here, working flawlessly
Another one for 9.7 35432 build, the back button did it for me.
All Opera Mobile/Mini versions: Official thread
xredjokerx said:
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
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For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
My favorite is Opera Mini 4.2. I like the button control and the way pushing up and down jumps to links easily. Also right moves down a page and left moves up a page. I hardly ever touch the screen after remapping buttons with Keyboard Controller application. I only use Opera Mobile once in a while but that works fairly well with remapped buttons in version 9.5. Opera mini 5 beta doesn't work as well with buttons.
orb3000 said:
For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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i've already read that post over and over, and clicked multiple links, i just wanted to know which version rhodium users preferred and why
after some testing:
engadget website loading test: (reset cookies, hist, even RAM)
opera 9.7 35432 - 1.02m
opera 9.7 35432 T - 49s
opera 10 b2 - 1.28m
opera 10 b2 T - 1.05m
so im deducting that opera 9.7 is faster... im just debating on which build, since they're all so close in version numbers... but for now im sticking with 35432
last but not least. opera mini 5b2 is the best browser by far. interface, and dl times. amazing haha
i would like to know which version of opera to use.
i like all of them
maybe you guys can help me out
I tried all three of these browser versions. I went back to 9.5 - Iy worked the best on my phone
Opera 10: it's fast; it's convenient, i mean the menus, tabs, controls etc; it has opera link; it's new after all
the only one thing contra: i can't use zoom bar, but that's probably i due to me not paying attention, no idea
Opera Mini 5 (native Windows version)
So I downloaded the latest version of Opera Mobile (10) from Opera's website but I've noticed now that it is not compatible with the zoom slider on the bottom; it does not give you the option to minimize when you click on exit like 9.7 does; and it always uses the whole screen so it's slightly harder to multitask.
Is there a TP2-specific version that retains all the previous compatible features of 9.7?
Thanks!
I just installed Opera 10 on mine last night.... and I uninstalled it within 15 minutes of use. Opera 9.7 native to the rom is slow and buggy. PIE functions far better IMO. However, Mini is still the first go-to browser for me. It just flat works and is fast. I still keep PIE as the default browser, and use Skyfire for when I need to view desktop version of sites. So I rotate between those three depending on what site I need to view.
Hmm ok thanks for the input. I installed Mini the other day but it looked and seemed to perform exactly the same as Mobile 10 so I uninstalled it (didn't see the point of having both installed). Maybe I'll give it another chance. I used Skyfire on my Titan but haven't tried the latest versions on this phone yet so I'll give it a try.
PIE seems to run really slow for me.
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Hmm ok thanks for the input. I installed Mini the other day but it looked and seemed to perform exactly the same as Mobile 10 so I uninstalled it (didn't see the point of having both installed). Maybe I'll give it another chance. I used Skyfire on my Titan but haven't tried the latest versions on this phone yet so I'll give it a try.
PIE seems to run really slow for me.
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Yes PIE is slow, and it sure looks a whole lot like Opera 9.7 IMO. But it does function better for some sites. For example, if I'm on Youtube's site, PIE will open up the video links in Steaming media, Opera Mini will not. But Mini flys through most wap/mobile sites, and that is why I use it 75% of the time. Skyfire can be slow too, but it will open up a site like a desktop... for the most part.
Opera 10 from what I can tell, is a bloated version of Opera Mini.
I too tried Opera 10 a while back and got rid of it quickly - however, I have come back to 10 and have learnt to live without the zoombar, since it is faster and takes up less RAM I was finding Opera 9.7 would often quit, even if I wasn't trying to multitask, whereas 10 deosn't seem to, even if I hit the Windows hard key and open up emial or calendar etc.
Wow, 9.7 closes on you? I have yet to have an application close on this phone even when I have lots of stuff open. But I've been running mostly MightyROM since I got it.
Opera 10 only has 2 levels of "zoom". It does not have a scalable zoom, so there is no way to make it compatible with the zoom bar on the TP2.
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Opera 10 only has 2 levels of "zoom". It does not have a scalable zoom, so there is no way to make it compatible with the zoom bar on the TP2.
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Actually, O10 has 7 levels of "zoom" within the settings tab. OMini has "text size" for it's pseudo zoom.
Skyfire for tilt2
is skyfire working for anyone on their tilt2?? i loved skyfire when ti was workigmn but a month ago it quit due to the iphone introduction to skyfire. All i want to do is listen to my www.skysports.com/radio on the tilt but no luck lately. tried opera mini but no luck
I would like to ask to anyone who uses Opera10 or 9.7 on your TP2 : How in the world can you cope with the scrolling thing with this browser? I mean the scrolling is really sluggish - I move up with my fingers, the scrolling is delayed by some seconds, and when I tried to scroll left/right/down, the scrolling respond after some seconds and the page scrolls by itself in all directions since it remembers the movements made of my finger.
I find this browser sluggish and very difficult/annoying to use - how can you guys still be using Opera 9.7/10?
I have never had those problems with Opera 10 on my (T-Mobile) TP2 running WM 6.5. It works fine for me.
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I have never had those problems with Opera 10 on my (T-Mobile) TP2 running WM 6.5. It works fine for me.
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Are you sure the scrolling is smooth with Opera10? I've tried on 2 tp2 and the results are the same. I think it's called ghosting. The finger scrolling lags and is a pain to browse the whole page.
Opera 10 working fine
I too had experienced some issues with the early builds of Opera 10 both beta and finals, but I have come back to it and use it a good 98% of the time when I want to surf the net on my phone. Seems that they may have fixed the issues with the lag from the early builds.
Then again, it just may be the ROM that I am using.
Seriously???
I don't know how you can think 9.7 is faster or better than 10!?!?! Simple one click zoom, fast page load times, speed dial on homepage. 10 is alot better, besides, if you want to minimize, just hit the end ket and go into task manager in upper right corner. There is also a TRULY final version on opera's website....it is very stable and smooth. I too had issues with the beta and switched to skyfire (mistake) but when the final came out, amazing.
I have a tip......its seems that whatsoever version of roms..the integrated Opera browser seems to be slow and not working well. So I removed it from my programs and downloaded Opera Mini 1. This browser is with in 2 sec on a website page. My advice?.....dont use the browser on the ROM ..it doesnt work well...
opera mini best
imm useing opera mini on my tilt 2 with no problems whatsoever. best web browzer that is compairable to a computer browzer iff u overclock urr device. iff there was a way to make the zoom bar compatible with opera mini even to just 1 or 2 zoom levels ide b happy.