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I have been looking in great detail at the new crop of WM6 devices, after almost buying the Sprint Mogul last month (my current carrier).
Does anyone here know the specs and release date for the Verizon 6800 - it's pictured in their new catalog ??
Specifically we like everything about the Mogul except lack of Rev A and now GPS enabled. Any new info on when these "updates" will take place ??? Just read somewhere that Sprint Rev A might be next Spring !!
Scott
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I have been looking in great detail at the new crop of WM6 devices, after almost buying the Sprint Mogul last month (my current carrier).
Does anyone here know the specs and release date for the Verizon 6800 - it's pictured in their new catalog ??
Specifically we like everything about the Mogul except lack of Rev A and now GPS enabled. Any new info on when these "updates" will take place ??? Just read somewhere that Sprint Rev A might be next Spring !!
Scott
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Should be Same Spec like the Mogul, except different carrier.
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Should be Same Spec like the Mogul, except different carrier.
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Thanks, but I would hope that Verizon - because Sprint has had a 6 month headstart - would deliver GPS and REV A out-of-the-gate (if they ever were going to )?? When I went today to my local Verizon staore to look at the new Samsung i760 (which they told me a week ago to come back Nov 2nd), they didn't have a date for the 6800, nor any release date or specs.
The pattern is Verizon release to the web first - the i760 was available on the web since mid-Oct.
Any Verizon insiders out there ??
Well this is just based off RUMORS, but they are suppossedly pretty credible info, the XV6800 should be available for web order very soon 11-10 and in stores 11-21.
As far as the release rom, HTC has said as far as the Sprint side is concerned, there will be a major Rom upgrade Q1 2008 (rumored to be the RevA Rom), so I would doubt there will be Rev A on Verizon before that.
It seems to me (just a guess) Verizon has been waiting until the Bluetooth issues were worked out so they could release a mostly "bug free" device, as in the Sprint Rom update on 10-22 that was supposedly going to fix everything but didn't.
The update was taken down by HTC a few days later, so where does that leave Verizon?? Who knows they most likely have their XV6800's loaded with a Rom similar to the updated Sprint Rom that was pulled.
How do you know those dates? Trying to verify... I'm also waiting for this phone.
I can see the 11/21 being true cause I heard that too but what about 11/10? I don't see Verizon putting out a phone on the weekend...
People who work at Verizon can already order the phone so it's ready to go. I would say online release this coming week.
Not fair!
"HTC made a confirmation on their Twitter page that there are no plans to bring a 3G Touch HD to the US. "
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7689.html
Those filthy mothers! I goddamn It!!! its because they hate us! And now I hate them... But i will still buy there products. Ok so i'm hypocrite but Its the lesser of the 2 evils (apple) The HD would cripple there competition.
{Bitter as ****!}
It'll happen eventually, I'm calling BS on them turning down a giant US market with an iPhone killer in their hands.
http://twitter.com/htc
Is where they say that there is no plans to release the HD on US soil.
And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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Wow... I'm shocked. This phone that half the forum was ready to jump on, the iPhone killer, best PPC phone made to date as some have called it... And they don't bring it to the US. I'm still skeptical, I think they may change their minds.
Well, they did get FCC approval for the EU version that doesn't support US 3G frequencies, so who knows...
does someone wanna let me live in europe with them?
ill ask my aunt.
I don't use usa 3G anyhow, since t-mobile only recently got it going with the Android. So, I'll happily use EDGE with this masterpiece when I get the pre-ordered unlocked european version!
Someday there will be a usa 3G version, but most likely for the at&t bandwidth....
that's wack i think they are missing out on a very big market i don't see why it can't be relased in the States this is probably the best competitor to the Iphone
Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Well, we're getting there with the Diamond and Raphael having capacitive button areas. Now if they'd just do it for the entire screen, that would be something else. Not sure how WinMo 6 would handle it, though. Maybe we have to wait for 7 to see that functionality... I hope they mention something about it at the PDC. Can't wait to go there
This is terrible news I suppose HTC decided it wouldn't be worth producing a US version of the phone as sales wouldn't generate enough revenue. I guess they don't think they can compete with Apple's marketing power/magic/overhyped iPhone
I am very disappointed, I actually feel lost and confused. This was the phone I was going to ditch my iphone for. I could always get the Fuze now but was so disappointed with my Diamond I just don't see how the Fuze will live up to my expectations.
Maybe the X1 or Omnia will be my next phone.
From wmpoweruser.com, find below 3 speculations on why HTC may have decided to do this:
1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
2) HTC did not want to draw attention from their new G1 android phone, and therefore decided not to release in USA.
3) HTC thinks the investment would be wasted, due to the local dominance of the iPhone in USA, unlike in Europe, where the seemed to have accelerated its release.
I'm going with reason #1. Apple and AT&T are the devil and the devil's spawn, respectively.
Looks like XDA-Developers is going to have to start calling on some HARDWARE EXPERTS!! Swap out the radios perhaps???
Very disappointing news, but hopefully this just means that we'll get something even better when the Touch HD II is born!
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1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
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This is why I'll never be an iPhone user
g1 sales?
If they said the t-HD was coming in march they would kill half the g1 sales, I figure as soon as the hype for the g1 is over there will magically be an t-HD for USA. I am waiting for a t-HD pro w/ keyboard. I got the g1 to play with/take apart until then.
Looks like i made a good gamble... i gave up on the fuze and speculated the HD would be months out and got a US Diamond 2 weeks ago.
Looks like i will be using the diamond a lot longer than i thought. Love the phone.
1) I think AT&T is mostly responsible, since they would probably just delay the HD until mid way through next year. And who would want it then if HTC reveals a new and better device? Besides, AT&T probably doesn't want an iPhone-killer that is going to kill its iPhone.
2) Tmo and Google could also be responsible. Judging from how well G1 sales have been going, Tmo might want to get its hands on a second Android device to hit two price-points: one all-around "good" device with keyboard at $179 (the G1), and another high-design iPhone-killer at ~$299. So who knows, maybe HTC/Tmo/Google killed the HD in order to resurrect it as an Android device. After all, there has been no shortage of "Android on HD" comments everywhere, and Tmo actually keeps track of the blogosphere.
The latest on HTC's tweet:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948811620
I talked to HTC yesterday about my Touch HD and after a long conversation the HTC rep told me that the Touch HD would in fact be shipping to the USA!!
Also said the phone hasn’t stopped ringing with requests for the HD.
She didn’t give me any info on a carrier. She said she thought it would hit the USA near the end of the first quarter
Hope it is AT&T, if it happens.
i hope it does cause if so......im jumping ship
I emailed HTC and here is the respond:
Thank you for your interest in these recent products, however, HTC has not announced any US availability for the Touch HD, Viva, or 3G. However, much of the functionality and design of these products can be found in devices that are available in the US, including the HTC Touch, HTC Touch Diamond, and the HTC Touch Pro.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
well then I guess I know what I will be doing for the next few week...trying to sell my 2 week old touch pro...scraping together the money and importing a 700 dollar phone and activating a new plan with t-mobile all because the good phones will never reach the states
I think it is!
If you remember the diamond originally wasn’t coming to the usa! When i talked to the rep at HTC she seemed very sure HD will ship to USA. Just have to wait and see.
well i keep reading on the forums and on the internet that HTC does plan on bringing something in the Q1 of 09 but, nothing solid...and after handling the HD, im chomping at the bit to order one.....
The problem is that it just never seems to get here soon enough. I was waiting and waiting for Rogers to get the Diamond and after being told be so many reps that they hadn't heard anything or for that matter it would not be coming any time soon if at all, I decided to get the HD. I don't subscribe to a data plan and will not miss 3g as a result. I hate waiting and when I do it always seems to be a dissapointment-they changed this feature or omitted that feature or it is only available in pink on a 3 year contract with a minimum $120 monthly plan. I figure by the time I am ready for another upgrade, the next phone will be here that I want. Of course I will still have to convince my wife that after spending so much money on the HD, I do need another phone.
dhatw.
I had to contact customer service for a billing issue and also asked the guy about if the Hero was coming to sprint and he said YES!!! I know it's just a customer service guy and they've been wrong in the past, but I'm hopeful.
I've been hearing that too. The real question (since I firmly believe that the customer service guy has it right for a chance) is when. My guess (for no real reason whatsoever so don't quote me on this) is in August.
That's great news! All I need are answers to my questions I posted in the Hero Q & A forum to seal the deal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532760
From what I understand, the only company whose bandwidths that HTC has applied for, for the Hero, is AT&T. I was despritely hoping the T-Mobile would be first to launch, but I've heard from many people and sources that AT&T will be the first to carry the Hero.
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From what I understand, the only company whose bandwidths that HTC has applied for, for the Hero, is AT&T. I was despritely hoping the T-Mobile would be first to launch, but I've heard from many people and sources that AT&T will be the first to carry the Hero.
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I am also desperate for T-Mobile to get this phone. I would get the mytouch 3g, but T-Mo got the lame version with less ram which kinda turns me off that...why not just get a g1 and have a keyboard if it's going to have the same specs? It sucks...I'm due for an upgrade next month, and really want to do it quickly (I'm still using a wing), but I want the Hero. The Touch Pro 2 is awesome but I think I want to get away from windows mobile. Dammit!
I hope T-Mo USA wakes up and takes the Hero...If the Hero is launching under the UK T-Mo then why can't it launch in the states? If they allow another carrier to get their hands on possibly THE BEST Android handset I would be so upset. It doesn't make sense to get the ball rolling with Android and then give up the most prized possession to another carrier.
Well for me am on sprint and my 2 year contract ends on December... Hoping that by then i will get the diamond2 ...finally... i love this phone but am getting tired of the same phone you know.. i will still have it i wont sell it this was my first phone love it haha
what phone are you planning on getting?
or keeping the beutiful slim touch vogue =D
magicalan said:
Well for me am on sprint and my 2 year contract ends on December... Hoping that by then i will get the diamond2 ...finally... i love this phone but am getting tired of the same phone you know.. i will still have it i wont sell it this was my first phone love it haha
what phone are you planning on getting?
or keeping the beutiful slim touch vogue =D
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It all depends on Verizon's Android offerings. I'm up for a new phone in October and I know my wife is ready for a new phone, as am I, so it all depends.
My hardware renewal is coming up at the end of November, and I've been informed by an inside source that Telus is getting the Hero. So I'll be getting that, unless they also get the Samsung i7500.
I was a late adopter of the Vogue. Grabbed it from Verizon as it was being discontinued in order to have a smartphone that didn't require a data plan. I have more than 1.5 years until I'm up for renewal.
I have had the Vogue for 2 years now, and my contract was up a few weeks ago... I am just waiting for either the Hero to be at Sprint or AT&T to have an Android phone...
Biding my time...
rhorton said:
I have had the Vogue for 2 years now, and my contract was up a few weeks ago... I am just waiting for either the Hero to be at Sprint or AT&T to have an Android phone...
Biding my time...
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You won't have long for either if the leaks are to be believed.
I was an early adopter for the Vogue on Alltel. Bought the first one in our area. I've been up for an upgrade, but since we're a part of Verizon, I'm waiting to see what they have in Android offerings this winter. Supposedly, Motorola is releasing one on Verizon.
hero
I wanted the touch pro2.
UNTIL,
I started using the hero OS on my vogue!
OMG! HERO ALL THE WAY! Thank you sprint!
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I wanted the touch pro2.
UNTIL,
I started using the hero OS on my vogue!
OMG! HERO ALL THE WAY! Thank you sprint!
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Same here, atx. Unfortunately I'm not on Sprint but hopefully with HTC pushing more and more Android phones one is bound to hit Verizon this year.
I'm getting a Sprint TP2, TD2, or TG01, which ever is best and is announced before the end of the year. Or switching to Verizon and getting the Omnia II (but their prices suck so much compared to Sprint's).
I'm getting the HTC Hero on Sprint (if it's not too slow)
Am kinda sure that the hero and the touchpro2 are coming out this year.. which is good for the people that like them :B
I want the diamond2 so bad.. but not even 1 leak picture that can give me hope
Reading some of the posts about the Hero being slow and laggy with the Touchflo interface, I'm hesitant to get one. My contract is up in December with Sprint. I'm pretty sure that any Sprint Android phone will not work with my SERO plan and don't think I want to get the everything plan. I don't come close to my 500 minutes I currently have, just lots of text and data, so I don't want to pay the $100 a month or the overpriced lesser plans.
Might just stick with my vogue running android for a while as long as it keeps getting updates.
Speaking of the Sprint hero, I may be switching from Verizon to Sprint because of the huge difference in price would allow me to have data access on my phone. Having Android on my Vogue has really made me want the Hero or another Android phone, but the Pre seems really appealing too.
I'm only a year into my contract but I'm eligible for a primary phone upgrade under my family plan. When the prices dropped on current verizon smartphones I almost pulled the trigger on a touch pro but with the Omnia II and htc touch pro 2 coming out soon I might wait. The Omnia II has the specs I'm looking for and would be a nice upgrade from my touch. I wonder how much the omnia II (or touch 2) would cost on verizon. How much did the omnia I cost when it first came out?
I love my Vogue... I'd be content on it forever most likely. But I do yearn for something fancy like Android, so I may get the Hero
As for it being laggy, I bet software tweaks will fix that. Hopefully you can disable the Touchflo interface, I never liked those showy themes anyways.
I'm hoping for the Motorola Calgary on Verizon before the end of the year, but I'm not 100% sold on it. Need more specs, info about the build. I worry about how horribly Verizon will mangle Android, but then I know someone will unlock it at some point and I'll be able to put whatever I want on there.