HTC Touch HD T8282 or T8285? - Touch HD General

Hi Everyone!
I am looking to purchase and would like to ask everyone which model to get if I want to use it on the Telstra NextG network?
Cheers
MickB

for Australia, get the T8285

If I get a T8282 which seems to be the more available model around, can I Flash the ROM to get NextG ?

mburian said:
If I get a T8282 which seems to be the more available model around, can I Flash the ROM to get NextG ?
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No the two devices have different hardware, not just different ROM's, to get the 850 mhz for US 3G you need the T8285. Go to ebay.com.au for the best deals. You still are going to have to look make sure it is the T8285 on the Aussie ebay site but it is still the best place to get one for a good price. Also, some sellers won't ship to the US but several will. I have a bid in on one right now.

Ok thanks... I am not after a phone to use in the States. I am in Australia so I just need to understand the differences. Am I understanding this when I say that to use the phone with NextG - Telstra (Australia) I need the T8285?

mburian said:
Am I understanding this when I say that to use the phone with NextG - Telstra (Australia) I need the T8285?
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Yes, to use the NextG network you need the T8285. The cheapest retail store I've found is JB HiFi. Can get it down to ~$1200 and they usually throw in some vouchers.

T8285 - T8282 - Kit
Hi,
Question guru's. i have a T8285. i want to get a cradle. some deals on ebay mention the T8282 and include charger and a battery.
link is here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370173477502
The details mention:
Compatible for HTC Touch HD / T8282
1350mAH capacity
i only feel like using real bricks for my house, not my phone.

Above!
Dont waste your money, I bought one and the mini usb on the cradle is far too tight!

well i got one anyway and i'm wrapped. yes agreed to the above post its tighter than a 70's jumpsuit but still i can handle that just need to take it off with two hands.. i ordered another one for home. for 25$ no worries..
pics below.
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Recall all t8282!!!
Hi! Im a T8282 user here in Canada, if Im gonna stick to this model I need to live with out 3G speed and just settle for Edge. My question to HTC is why release this stupid T8282 model which is limited to 3G reception but then they also had the intention of making a T8285 version which has the 850 band 3G for North America + the 2100 band 3G for Europe and Asia? In my point of view HTC should recall the T8282 model and replace the hardware part that is responsible for the 3G reception to the ones that are in the T8285 model. All T8282 users bought the device in a premium price and should get premium features.
HTC is toying with their consumers and their main concern now is money, money and more money! This is also the same case with the HTC Touch Pro which also has a stupid specs with its 3G reception, compare it with HTC Fuze which they say is the North American version but if you look closely the HTC Fuze is far more superior in its 3G reception capabilities because it has (Damn!)Quadband in 3G/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...details/?device=HTC+FUZE(TM)&q_sku=sku3090226
This Fuze version is not a North American version but a Worldwide Version. This is also the same case with T8282 the stupid version compare to T8285 which is the Worldwide Version
They should have release the T8285 first to the world and gave the T8282 version to the cellphone networks in Europe/Asia.
Now they are doing it again with the Touch Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2. But still alot of people are falling to their trap, in these desperate times HTC doesnt even feel a slight kick in their concience.
My Shout is Recall all T8282 and hardware upgrade its 3G reception capability!!!

rvnteck said:
Hi! Im a T8282 user here in Canada, if Im gonna stick to this model I need to live with out 3G speed and just settle for Edge. My question to HTC is why release this stupid T8282 model which is limited to 3G reception but then they also had the intention of making a T8285 version which has the 850 band 3G for North America + the 2100 band 3G for Europe and Asia? In my point of view HTC should recall the T8282 model and replace the hardware part that is responsible for the 3G reception to the ones that are in the T8285 model. All T8282 users bought the device in a premium price and should get premium features.
HTC is toying with their consumers and their main concern now is money, money and more money! This is also the same case with the HTC Touch Pro which also has a stupid specs with its 3G reception, compare it with HTC Fuze which they say is the North American version but if you look closely the HTC Fuze is far more superior in its 3G reception capabilities because it has (Damn!)Quadband in 3G/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...details/?device=HTC+FUZE(TM)&q_sku=sku3090226
This Fuze version is not a North American version but a Worldwide Version. This is also the same case with T8282 the stupid version compare to T8285 which is the Worldwide Version
They should have release the T8285 first to the world and gave the T8282 version to the cellphone networks in Europe/Asia.
Now they are doing it again with the Touch Diamond 2 and Touch Pro 2. But still alot of people are falling to their trap, in these desperate times HTC doesn't even feel a slight kick in their conscience.
My Shout is Recall all T8282 and hardware upgrade its 3G reception capability!!!
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The T8282 was released solely for Europe/Asia, however can also be used in Australia with Optus, Vodaphone, 3G and other providers on their HSDPA/3G frequency
The T8285 was released solely for Telstra in Australia
The handset did not pass whatever is the equivalent of "American Standards" for cell phones, therefore it is unlikely to ever be released officially in US.
Europe, Asia and Australia use all the frequency's over various providers.
Out of curiosity dont other providers in Canada and US use different frequency's for 3G/UMTS/HSDPA?
I'm with Vodaphone in Australia and have great 3G speeds using HTC T8282.

rvnteck said:
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why release this stupid T8282 model
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My Shout is Recall all T8282 and hardware upgrade its 3G reception capability!!!
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bitter
bitter and uninformed and unreasonable
just take a deep breath and relax
enjoy your great device, or sell it

I bought the T8282 from o/s to use with Telstra not realising there was a difference. Mine runs HSDPA/EDGE/3G fine as far as i can tell.
Does it just mean I cant get Telstra's NextG HSDPA speeds?
What is the max HSDPA speed the T8282 can achieve?

T8282 or T8285
Just want to verify that nothing has changed with the status of the ability to get 3G in the USA (AT&T) on the T8282.
And if the T8282 is limited to Edge, what are users that have one in the USA think of it. I have heard it is fast in spite of the lack of 3G?
And if you were buying a T8282 vs a T8285, what would the price difference be?
I may be confusing the Leo with the Blackstone.
Mark

Related

Anyone can dump their Telstra rom here to share?

Anyone can dump their Telstra rom here to share, that would be great for people who are in Canada using Touch HD, Thanks.
I just tried...
"Even Flashed the Telstra rom, still cant get the 850 3G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" but
the display of model have changed from T8282 to T8285
You can get it from the htc website..
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
That is different
finer6 said:
You can get it from the htc website..
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
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that is different
Really? I am running this rom and it has telstra all over it... pretty restrictive to be honest
that's because you have to put your devices serial number and it picks the best ROM suited to the device. I have "RUU_BlackStone_Telstra_WWE_1.21.841.1_Radio_52.57.25.30_1.10.25.25_Ship.exe" version if your interested? I'll provide a download link when I get home from work...
Excuse my ignorance...but why would you want a telstra ROM in Canada?
Puzz said:
Excuse my ignorance...but why would you want a telstra ROM in Canada?
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People are hoping that the Telstra model will work with North American 3G, and that there's some way to extract that functionality via software.
I have yet to hear a consensus on whether it's possible or not, though. One poster will say that without a doubt it's impossible, that lack of 3G is 100% hardware based, and another will say that is most definitely is a software/radio ROM issue.
I can't wait for some sort of verdict.
i know what u mean if it aint the t8285 model it won't work with 850 umts...
heres a link to the rom anyway guys... http://dutch7.com/blackstone
850 on hd t8282
I'm not sure how or waht the difference is between 8282 and 8285. However, I have a 8282 bought in Australia from, I believe, a reputable firm. While it didn't come with the Telstra Rom it was advertised as being NextG compatable. I get full download speed (compared to my Diamond) and the H symbol is showing most of the time. I had always thought that the 850 compatability was more to do with Radio's than hardware. Especially when this phone has been sold in both markets for a while now. But maybe I'm just imagining the speed. The HD is not yet as good as the Diamond indoors out on the fringes of Melbourne where I live. But it is as good as most Nokias.
well i guess testing it wont hurt. i would want to give it a try too.
iandg said:
I'm not sure how or waht the difference is between 8282 and 8285. However, I have a 8282 bought in Australia from, I believe, a reputable firm. While it didn't come with the Telstra Rom it was advertised as being NextG compatable. I get full download speed (compared to my Diamond) and the H symbol is showing most of the time. I had always thought that the 850 compatability was more to do with Radio's than hardware. Especially when this phone has been sold in both markets for a while now. But maybe I'm just imagining the speed. The HD is not yet as good as the Diamond indoors out on the fringes of Melbourne where I live. But it is as good as most Nokias.
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Yours originally is T8285 but they flashed the T8282 rom, thats why it shows that is T8282.
My phone is T8282 after i flashed the Telstra rom it become T8285.....but still not compatible of the NextG
The "H" is HSDPA and isnt 850 dependant. Just means that it goes to 7.2/2.0 which again isnt 850 dependant. NextG, like North America is 850mhz. You can have HSDPA on any 3G network (Optus, 3, Voda etc) which use 1800/2100 if im not mistaken?
8285 is the NextG/850 version. Nearly all Telstra-sold phones are 850 versions. Have to be very careful as they have different Radio Hardware

CDMA/US?

I've been hoping to grab this phone, but I'm currently with Telus Mobility in Canada for another 2.5 years.
I know they run a CDMA network, and a 3G+ network, and if I'm correct, the 3G+ network is UMTS 850/1900:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/network/about.shtml
If that's correct, would this HTC HD2 work for me?
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
I'm not 100% sure of my knowledge of mobile technologies/frequencies, so I just figured I'd check with experts. I have a CDMA HTC Touch Pro 2, which doesn't work on the Telus 3G+ network -- presumably -- because it only supports UMTS 2100.
As an aside, is there going to be a CDMA version of this phone?
Back to the top...need an answer here...
And again...back to the top...
Is anyone out there?
In a word, no it will not work on either the 3G frequencies that you want or on CDMA. The HD2 is a GSM only device, although it is Quad band. The 3G data frequencies are specific to T-Mobile in the USA (1700/2100).
rericson said:
In a word, no it will not work on either the 3G frequencies that you want or on CDMA. The HD2 is a GSM only device, although it is Quad band. The 3G data frequencies are specific to T-Mobile in the USA (1700/2100).
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I understand that the upcoming HTC HD2 US version will not work on CDMA, however, Telus' network is apparently a UMTS 850/1900 network, in addition to being a CDMA network:
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When I looked at the spec sheet for the upcoming HTC HD2 US version, I noticed that it supports:
Being sufficiently encouraged by this, I decided to cross-reference other phones that I knew operated on the Telus network (namely the BlackBerry Bold 9700, iPhone 3GS, and HTC Hero) for the frequencies/technologies that they used/supported, and what I found was encouraging: Quad-band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and UMTS 850/1900 were the only things the devices on Telus' 3G+ network had in common, and they also had this in common with the HTC HD2 US version:
BlackBerry Bold 9700:
iPhone 3GS:
HTC Hero:
So I decided to post here, asking if this would work...
...but, if you'd actually read/followed the links in the OP, you'd know this...
PDAdb.net is wrong. There's no such thing as 850/1900 UMTS HD2 in the US. If you do a search, you can find more explanation on this.
lude219 said:
PDAdb.net is wrong. There's no such thing as 850/1900 UMTS HD2 in the US. If you do a search, you can find more explanation on this.
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You say "[t]here's" which is a contraction of "there is", and "is" is present tense.
I'm just doing research ahead of time, so I'm ready when (if?) this is released.
I have seen in places other than PDAdb.net that the HTC HD2 is coming to the US/NA in Q1 2010, so March seems plausible to me...
...maybe you could link something that refutes this?
The only HD2 coming to the US in March is the TMobile version (1700/2100). Feel free to go and fetch me another source that states a 850/1900 UMTS other than that trash site you keep on citing.
PDAdb.net also states that there's a HD2 without 3G radio...you buy that also? ( http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2174&c=htc_hd2_gsm_htc_leo )
I'll be waiting for your alternate source.
lude219 said:
The only HD2 coming to the US in March is the TMobile version (1700/2100). Feel free to go and fetch me another source that states a 850/1900 UMTS other than that trash site you keep on citing.
PDAdb.net also states that there's a HD2 without 3G radio...you buy that also? ( http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2174&c=htc_hd2_gsm_htc_leo )
I'll be waiting for your alternate source.
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So then, what is a Telus customer's options for obtaining and using an HTC HD2?
Spike15 said:
So then, what is a Telus customer's options for obtaining and using an HTC HD2?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596339
..I don't really know much about Telus CDMA/UMTS deal. So check out the link and come up with your own conclusion.
lude219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596339
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Before I go any further I would like to give you a thank-you. 100% non-sarcastic. I am a forum veteran, I know how annoying it can be to have people just asking questions that you think should be obvious, but I'm also an enthusiast who likes to hop between nerdy enthusiasms, and therefore it's nice to have a thread or two where I can ask questions and get personalized responses, rather than wading through information trying to sort through confusing data on my own.
I do try and search these things, but up until recently the CDMA/GSM/UMTS thing totally eluded me, and Telus doesn't really help...they're very vague describing how their "3G+" network operates.
Thank-you for a link.
That said, the Telus network is UMTS 850/1900, and the Telstra one (according to this) is UMTS 850/2100.
I have been looking over that thread...I see people rejoicing about AT&T (which uses the same bands as Telus), so I'm assuming I'm missing something...
...I just want to be absolutely sure/clear.
Thanks.
: )
Spike15 said:
Before I go any further I would like to give you a thank-you. 100% non-sarcastic. I am a forum veteran, I know how annoying it can be to have people just asking questions that you think should be obvious, but I'm also an enthusiast who likes to hop between nerdy enthusiasms, and therefore it's nice to have a thread or two where I can ask questions and get personalized responses, rather than wading through information trying to sort through confusing data on my own.
I do try and search these things, but up until recently the CDMA/GSM/UMTS thing totally eluded me, and Telus doesn't really help...they're very vague describing how their "3G+" network operates.
Thank-you for a link.
That said, the Telus network is UMTS 850/1900, and the Telstra one (according to this) is UMTS 850/2100.
I have been looking over that thread...I see people rejoicing about AT&T (which uses the same bands as Telus), so I'm assuming I'm missing something...
...I just want to be absolutely sure/clear.
Thanks.
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No, thank YOU for actually do some research before asking...unlike some of the people here who would just write a few words regarding something when the answer is somewhere on the first page. Now, like i said before, I'm not too much familiar with Telus or what kind of network they're running (CDMA\GSM) exactly, but if you say they run on UMTS (and not CDMA) 850/1900, then it should work with the Telstra version. Even though the Telstra is 850/2100, AT&T only needs one of those bands in order to have 3G...and since the Telstra has 850mhz band, it will work with AT&T (and possibly with Telus if all it really needs is a single band to operate on 3G).
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No, thank YOU for actually do some research before asking...unlike some of the people here who would just write a few words regarding something when the answer is somewhere on the first page. Now, like i said before, I'm not too much familiar with Telus or what kind of network they're running (CDMA\GSM) exactly, but if you say they run on UMTS (and not CDMA) 850/1900, then it should work with the Telstra version. Even though the Telstra is 850/2100, AT&T only needs one of those bands in order to have 3G...and since the Telstra has 850mhz band, it will work with AT&T (and possibly with Telus if all it really needs is a single band to operate on 3G).
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Thanks for this.
I've posted my question in the thread about the Telstra HD2, and I'll be calling Telus later today.
If anyone else has insight into this matter, please post!
I phone Telus and according to the guy I talked to it'll work just supporting UMTS 850...
...could use some further encouragement/confirmation however...

Identifying UK Atrix

Does anyone have a way of identifying whether an Atrix is UK or US? Both have the MB860 model number, right? I am trying to acquire a second hand UK model from eBay to replace my aging HTC Desire but two sellers I have contacted have asked how they can tell. Neither has the box or manuals. Am I right in thinking the UK version is simply called "Atrix" and the US is the "Atrix 4G"? Is there a way of telling which the phone is on the phone itself (e.g. something in the "About Phone" section perhaps?
I want to make sure I have WCDMA 900
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I think the one of the codes under the battery may contain a batch number or country number
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gordonthegopher said:
Does anyone have a way of identifying whether an Atrix is UK or US? Both have the MB860 model number, right? I am trying to acquire a second hand UK model from eBay to replace my aging HTC Desire but two sellers I have contacted have asked how they can tell. Neither has the box or manuals. Am I right in thinking the UK version is simply called "Atrix" and the US is the "Atrix 4G"? Is there a way of telling which the phone is on the phone itself (e.g. something in the "About Phone" section perhaps?
I want to make sure I have WCDMA 900
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Look at the System Version in About Phone.
quetzalcoatl2435 said:
Look at the System Version in About Phone.
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That wont work ican make mine look like a att phone, when it's a uk one
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stevendeb25 said:
That wont work ican make mine look like a att phone, when it's a uk one
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Well, yes, if you flash it. If it's locked, that's where to look. If it's unlocked, then there's no way of telling.
The picture below presents the ATRIX 4G AT&T. Notice the antenna plate below the speaker ? The antenna plate on the european atrix covers the whole place unlike at&t atrix.
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The picture below presents the ATRIX 4G AT&T. Notice the antenna plate below the speaker ? The antenna plate on the european atrix covers the whole place unlike at&t atrix.
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I can confirm, my atrix (UK) has a much larger metal plate.
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Oh and the UK ones have a soft touch rubber backing, rather than that ugly carbon fibre look.
But I suppose that could be changed too.
Bluemotion said:
I can confirm, my atrix (UK) has a much larger metal plate.
Edit
Oh and the UK ones have a soft touch rubber backing, rather than that ugly carbon fibre look.
But I suppose that could be changed too.
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My Atrix (SEA version) has the carbon-fibre pattern back, but yeah, the antenna is bigger.
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Here's what the UK Antenna looks like, for reference. You can also kinda see in the background that I also have the shiny faux-carbon fibre backplate.
Please excuse the sand, it's been on the beach a bunch.
This is my UK Atrix's back sorry about picture quality.
hmm, whats the point with the UK/EU atrix having a different antenna?
crnkoj said:
hmm, whats the point with the UK/EU atrix having a different antenna?
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Because its more "4G" than the "Atrix 4G"... thats the way I put it in my comparison video.
The UK/EU version of the Atrix supports more 3G frequencies than the Atrix 4G.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3709&idPhone2=3708
Atrix 4G: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ (HSPA+ 14mbps = 4G if you're AT&T) 850/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones
Atrix UK/EU: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/G...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ATRIX-GB-EN.alt
**HSPA/HSPA+ Motorola doesn't actually list either phone as supporting that, but they list it as HSDPA 14.4mbps (Catagory 10)**
My video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5sCvPQYFdE
Note: my atrix 4g has the bigger antenna, this is because the back was replaced!
tehrules said:
Because its more "4G" than the "Atrix 4G"... thats the way I put it in my comparison video.
The UK/EU version of the Atrix supports more 3G frequencies than the Atrix 4G.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3709&idPhone2=3708
Atrix 4G: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ (HSPA+ 14mbps = 4G if you're AT&T) 850/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones
Atrix UK/EU: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/G...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ATRIX-GB-EN.alt
**HSPA/HSPA+ Motorola doesn't actually list either phone as supporting that, but they list it as HSDPA 14.4mbps (Catagory 10)**
My video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5sCvPQYFdE
Note: my atrix 4g has the bigger antenna, this is because the back was replaced!
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Thanks for the extensive anwser, but the fact that att/us atrixes can flash an eu radio, which than works good for most makes me skeptical that it has anything to do with bands, although when i flashed my att atrix with an eu radio (living in the eu too), it had some rather massive power drain in idle, so this might again speak for the missing part of the antenna being solely for the purpose of the 900 band.
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crnkoj said:
Thanks for the extensive anwser, but the fact that att/us atrixes can flash an eu radio, which than works good for most makes me skeptical that it has anything to do with bands, although when i flashed my att atrix with an eu radio (living in the eu too), it had some rather massive power drain in idle, so this might again speak for the missing part of the antenna being solely for the purpose of the 900 band.
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You can flash between the two yes, purely because its the same hardware chip however, the revisions are slightly different as 900mhz 3G is locked of at hardware level and not software level, thus explaining the lack of antenna for the phone. (It took me a long time to accept this, I'll be honest, you can see that from my other posts in relation to this)
The other theory I could think of is that AT&T are under some illusion that their users don't plan on going out of the USA and have had it designed for their 850mhz 3G band, and what ever 2G band they have.
I'll be honest, the signal strengths in the same place are different on both my atrix's. The UK Version can get better signal strengths than then ATT version.

Which model is preferable to take overseas?

I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
The micro sim port is for Verizon lte. Tmobiles is also a micro sim, and I think you still have to be connected to Tmobiles network to use wifi calling. Don't know about att.
t-mobile sgs3 stock rom/rooted
PhrostB said:
I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
crystalstylez said:
AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
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So which model is this?
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I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
PhrostB said:
So which model is this?
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The one on the left is probably SPRINT, as they've been hard-embedding the LTE SIM card into the device to bastardize it (they're doing it with all phones).
The right is probably AT&T/TMO.
ExodusC said:
I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
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Well, the internal chipset has GSM support. You wouldn't be able to change the SIM card, I believe. You'd be stuck on VZW's expensive international roaming plans.
But for global roaming it'd only support 800 Mhz and 1900 Mhz bands, unless Verizon had them add the extra hardware.
The AT&T version uses the same frequencies as the international version.
Side by side comparison i747 and i9300
I travel quite a bit outside of the US for work, and for international travel, your best bet is the ATT version since GSM will give you the most options outside of the North America. As mentioned, Verizon may be offering some limited compatibility, but you will be stuck to their plan, whereas the ATT version (esp if unlocked) will allow you to swap chips in other countries as desired.
I say ATT because band-wise it has the most international compatible ones, and the 2100 band will help in regions like Japan and Korea that don't use standard GSM.
TMo is probably the second choice, but because they use bands like 1700 that no one else really uses, you're still better off with ATT.
The CDMA versions would be the last ones (Verizon and Sprint) since their roaming will be limited.
This is assuming you are picking from the US versions - for Canadian models, just find the carrier that matches ATT (I believe Rogers is the closest).
I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
PhrostB said:
I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
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Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
gingson said:
Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
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I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
PhrostB said:
I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
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I would go with the at&t one if you were to choose a us version. Personally if I had to pick I would just go with the international version if that where the case. I wanna see what the quadcore can do in a phone and personally I'm fine running hspa. I currently have no LTE were I'm at anyway. I have to drive like an hour to Baton Rouge for a taste lol.
By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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clninja said:
By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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Was just about to say this. I think you can also add an international long distance plan for a small fee (that way you can also call israeli numbers), which would make the phone work well anywhere you have wifi, then just get a prepaid sim to use while on the go. Just an idea tho.
I was only considering buying the phone here in the states and using it back home in israel with my regular carrier (Cellcom). Will the t-mobile S3 support calling-over-wifi even if I'm not on t-mobile's network?

International Galaxy S4 i9505 on Docomo Xi LTE

I got an imported i9505 in Japan the other day. I have a contract with Docomo, and had them set me up with a micro SIM card, and to switch to a Xi (LTE) plan. Unfortunately, the first day I went, the guy set me up with spmode, which puts you on an APN that filters and rejects providing network access to any non-Docomo phone. I had to go in again after I read up more, and request that they take me off of the spmode service (which provides things like a Docomo email address which I don't need), and to sign me up for Mopera (I think spmode costs 315yen/month and Mopera was like 525yen/month). Once signed up for Mopera, I could then freely connect to the open.mopera.net APN, and am able to connect to their 4g LTE Xi network.
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Hi, I realize that this post is rather old, so I hope, you are still reading this.
I am interested in your experiences with your i9505 in Japan
Specifically, do you know, which LTE frequency bands are supported?
I know it says LTE 800Mhz, 850Mhz and so on, but are the docomo E-UTRA bands 1 and 19 supported? Also for UMTS?
Or do you experience reception problems where people with Japanese models have no problems?
I really tried to find this info, but nothing awailable about the specific bands. Does that mean that "of course" all bands in the 800Mhz range are supported?
This page here says, that there are hardly any base stations in the 1500Mhz band, so not having that should not be a big loss, and 700Mhz is sheduled from 2015 onwards, so no problem here either. http://www6.atwiki.jp/k-p/pages/219.html
Also, for the Japanese model, there is 1seg and NOTTV listed for features. I know neither, but it sounds like television. Do you miss that?
Do you miss Felica, or is there maybe an app for that?
cgi said:
Hi, I realize that this post is rather old, so I hope, you are still reading this.
I am interested in your experiences with your i9505 in Japan
Specifically, do you know, which LTE frequency bands are supported?
I know it says LTE 800Mhz, 850Mhz and so on, but are the docomo E-UTRA bands 1 and 19 supported? Also for UMTS?
Or do you experience reception problems where people with Japanese models have no problems?
I really tried to find this info, but nothing awailable about the specific bands. Does that mean that "of course" all bands in the 800Mhz range are supported?
This page here says, that there are hardly any base stations in the 1500Mhz band, so not having that should not be a big loss, and 700Mhz is sheduled from 2015 onwards, so no problem here either. http://www6.atwiki.jp/k-p/pages/219.html
Also, for the Japanese model, there is 1seg and NOTTV listed for features. I know neither, but it sounds like television. Do you miss that?
Do you miss Felica, or is there maybe an app for that?
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1seg is the tv service in Japan. There is no FeLiCa except on the Japanese version of the phone (which lacks NFC). I am not to sure on the 800mhz bands 18 and 19 (although band 20 using roughly the same frequencies is supported). Band 1 and 3 both are supported so you can connect to DoCoMo's Xi, Softbank LTE and KDDI's AU networks on 2100mhz and emobile on 1800mhz.
That should be enough service, at least inside cities where most of the spectrum is used by bands 1 and 3.
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Thanks alot for the info. Do you know anything about the legality of using the phone in japan?
I recently read a few pages where Japanese people talk about the subject of using international phones.
The argument I found goes roughly like this:
- A phone needs the approval of the japanese authorities (shown by some T like mark)
- foreign phones don't have it.
- There is provision in the law, that travellers can use their phones (temporarily) while roaming as long as they are approved by FEC or Europe or so. (the phone is taken as the unit of handset and SIM, I understand)
- However, as soon as you put a japanese SIM in there, you are not roaming anymore, and so it's illegal.
I tried reading the law in question. It says "may be illegal" but for what I know, that might just be the japanese way of saying that you won't get death sentence for doing it.
Now, I know that you can rent Japanese "traveller" SIM cards from Softbank (formerly Vodafone) but on one of these pages someone wrote, he asked Softbank about it and turned out, the guy responsible for the SIM rental program didn't know about those laws. So anyone who is bored enough could go to the police and report them any time.
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There is no FeLiCa except on the Japanese version of the phone (which lacks NFC).
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The SC-04E has both Felica and NFC-A if you have a pink sim. (As does pretty much any Docomo spring/summer 2013 phone)
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The SC-04E has both Felica and NFC-A if you have a pink sim. (As does pretty much any Docomo spring/summer 2013 phone)
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NFC is on the sim though, not on the device itself. Therefore the SC-04E on its own has no NFC
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mathieulh said:
NFC is on the sim though, not on the device itself. Therefore the SC-04E on its own has no NFC
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There are 3 components to the NFC-A/Felica system: secure element (which is only necessary for doing secure transactions), radio hardware, and antenna.
Antenna is in the battery (shared between Felica and NFC-A)
Radio Hardware is in the phone body (shared between Felica and NFC-A)
Felica SE is in the phone body, NFC-A SE may be in the sim (in the case that a pink sim is used).
The phone without a pink sim is perfectly capable of reading and writing NFC-A tags, and reading the non-encrypted areas of biometric passports, japanese drivers licenses, and zairyu cards (all of which are NFC-A).
wallslide said:
I got an imported i9505 in Japan the other day. I have a contract with Docomo, and had them set me up with a micro SIM card, and to switch to a Xi (LTE) plan. Unfortunately, the first day I went, the guy set me up with spmode, which puts you on an APN that filters and rejects providing network access to any non-Docomo phone. I had to go in again after I read up more, and request that they take me off of the spmode service (which provides things like a Docomo email address which I don't need), and to sign me up for Mopera (I think spmode costs 315yen/month and Mopera was like 525yen/month). Once signed up for Mopera, I could then freely connect to the open.mopera.net APN, and am able to connect to their 4g LTE Xi network.
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Can you tell me what ROM/Modem version you used on yout i9505? I have the same, but cannot connect to Docomo here in Japan.

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