I got an imported i9505 in Japan the other day. I have a contract with Docomo, and had them set me up with a micro SIM card, and to switch to a Xi (LTE) plan. Unfortunately, the first day I went, the guy set me up with spmode, which puts you on an APN that filters and rejects providing network access to any non-Docomo phone. I had to go in again after I read up more, and request that they take me off of the spmode service (which provides things like a Docomo email address which I don't need), and to sign me up for Mopera (I think spmode costs 315yen/month and Mopera was like 525yen/month). Once signed up for Mopera, I could then freely connect to the open.mopera.net APN, and am able to connect to their 4g LTE Xi network.
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Hi, I realize that this post is rather old, so I hope, you are still reading this.
I am interested in your experiences with your i9505 in Japan
Specifically, do you know, which LTE frequency bands are supported?
I know it says LTE 800Mhz, 850Mhz and so on, but are the docomo E-UTRA bands 1 and 19 supported? Also for UMTS?
Or do you experience reception problems where people with Japanese models have no problems?
I really tried to find this info, but nothing awailable about the specific bands. Does that mean that "of course" all bands in the 800Mhz range are supported?
This page here says, that there are hardly any base stations in the 1500Mhz band, so not having that should not be a big loss, and 700Mhz is sheduled from 2015 onwards, so no problem here either. http://www6.atwiki.jp/k-p/pages/219.html
Also, for the Japanese model, there is 1seg and NOTTV listed for features. I know neither, but it sounds like television. Do you miss that?
Do you miss Felica, or is there maybe an app for that?
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Hi, I realize that this post is rather old, so I hope, you are still reading this.
I am interested in your experiences with your i9505 in Japan
Specifically, do you know, which LTE frequency bands are supported?
I know it says LTE 800Mhz, 850Mhz and so on, but are the docomo E-UTRA bands 1 and 19 supported? Also for UMTS?
Or do you experience reception problems where people with Japanese models have no problems?
I really tried to find this info, but nothing awailable about the specific bands. Does that mean that "of course" all bands in the 800Mhz range are supported?
This page here says, that there are hardly any base stations in the 1500Mhz band, so not having that should not be a big loss, and 700Mhz is sheduled from 2015 onwards, so no problem here either. http://www6.atwiki.jp/k-p/pages/219.html
Also, for the Japanese model, there is 1seg and NOTTV listed for features. I know neither, but it sounds like television. Do you miss that?
Do you miss Felica, or is there maybe an app for that?
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1seg is the tv service in Japan. There is no FeLiCa except on the Japanese version of the phone (which lacks NFC). I am not to sure on the 800mhz bands 18 and 19 (although band 20 using roughly the same frequencies is supported). Band 1 and 3 both are supported so you can connect to DoCoMo's Xi, Softbank LTE and KDDI's AU networks on 2100mhz and emobile on 1800mhz.
That should be enough service, at least inside cities where most of the spectrum is used by bands 1 and 3.
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Thanks alot for the info. Do you know anything about the legality of using the phone in japan?
I recently read a few pages where Japanese people talk about the subject of using international phones.
The argument I found goes roughly like this:
- A phone needs the approval of the japanese authorities (shown by some T like mark)
- foreign phones don't have it.
- There is provision in the law, that travellers can use their phones (temporarily) while roaming as long as they are approved by FEC or Europe or so. (the phone is taken as the unit of handset and SIM, I understand)
- However, as soon as you put a japanese SIM in there, you are not roaming anymore, and so it's illegal.
I tried reading the law in question. It says "may be illegal" but for what I know, that might just be the japanese way of saying that you won't get death sentence for doing it.
Now, I know that you can rent Japanese "traveller" SIM cards from Softbank (formerly Vodafone) but on one of these pages someone wrote, he asked Softbank about it and turned out, the guy responsible for the SIM rental program didn't know about those laws. So anyone who is bored enough could go to the police and report them any time.
mathieulh said:
There is no FeLiCa except on the Japanese version of the phone (which lacks NFC).
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The SC-04E has both Felica and NFC-A if you have a pink sim. (As does pretty much any Docomo spring/summer 2013 phone)
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The SC-04E has both Felica and NFC-A if you have a pink sim. (As does pretty much any Docomo spring/summer 2013 phone)
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NFC is on the sim though, not on the device itself. Therefore the SC-04E on its own has no NFC
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NFC is on the sim though, not on the device itself. Therefore the SC-04E on its own has no NFC
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There are 3 components to the NFC-A/Felica system: secure element (which is only necessary for doing secure transactions), radio hardware, and antenna.
Antenna is in the battery (shared between Felica and NFC-A)
Radio Hardware is in the phone body (shared between Felica and NFC-A)
Felica SE is in the phone body, NFC-A SE may be in the sim (in the case that a pink sim is used).
The phone without a pink sim is perfectly capable of reading and writing NFC-A tags, and reading the non-encrypted areas of biometric passports, japanese drivers licenses, and zairyu cards (all of which are NFC-A).
wallslide said:
I got an imported i9505 in Japan the other day. I have a contract with Docomo, and had them set me up with a micro SIM card, and to switch to a Xi (LTE) plan. Unfortunately, the first day I went, the guy set me up with spmode, which puts you on an APN that filters and rejects providing network access to any non-Docomo phone. I had to go in again after I read up more, and request that they take me off of the spmode service (which provides things like a Docomo email address which I don't need), and to sign me up for Mopera (I think spmode costs 315yen/month and Mopera was like 525yen/month). Once signed up for Mopera, I could then freely connect to the open.mopera.net APN, and am able to connect to their 4g LTE Xi network.
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Can you tell me what ROM/Modem version you used on yout i9505? I have the same, but cannot connect to Docomo here in Japan.
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I've been hoping to grab this phone, but I'm currently with Telus Mobility in Canada for another 2.5 years.
I know they run a CDMA network, and a 3G+ network, and if I'm correct, the 3G+ network is UMTS 850/1900:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/network/about.shtml
If that's correct, would this HTC HD2 work for me?
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
I'm not 100% sure of my knowledge of mobile technologies/frequencies, so I just figured I'd check with experts. I have a CDMA HTC Touch Pro 2, which doesn't work on the Telus 3G+ network -- presumably -- because it only supports UMTS 2100.
As an aside, is there going to be a CDMA version of this phone?
Back to the top...need an answer here...
And again...back to the top...
Is anyone out there?
In a word, no it will not work on either the 3G frequencies that you want or on CDMA. The HD2 is a GSM only device, although it is Quad band. The 3G data frequencies are specific to T-Mobile in the USA (1700/2100).
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In a word, no it will not work on either the 3G frequencies that you want or on CDMA. The HD2 is a GSM only device, although it is Quad band. The 3G data frequencies are specific to T-Mobile in the USA (1700/2100).
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I understand that the upcoming HTC HD2 US version will not work on CDMA, however, Telus' network is apparently a UMTS 850/1900 network, in addition to being a CDMA network:
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When I looked at the spec sheet for the upcoming HTC HD2 US version, I noticed that it supports:
Being sufficiently encouraged by this, I decided to cross-reference other phones that I knew operated on the Telus network (namely the BlackBerry Bold 9700, iPhone 3GS, and HTC Hero) for the frequencies/technologies that they used/supported, and what I found was encouraging: Quad-band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and UMTS 850/1900 were the only things the devices on Telus' 3G+ network had in common, and they also had this in common with the HTC HD2 US version:
BlackBerry Bold 9700:
iPhone 3GS:
HTC Hero:
So I decided to post here, asking if this would work...
...but, if you'd actually read/followed the links in the OP, you'd know this...
PDAdb.net is wrong. There's no such thing as 850/1900 UMTS HD2 in the US. If you do a search, you can find more explanation on this.
lude219 said:
PDAdb.net is wrong. There's no such thing as 850/1900 UMTS HD2 in the US. If you do a search, you can find more explanation on this.
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You say "[t]here's" which is a contraction of "there is", and "is" is present tense.
I'm just doing research ahead of time, so I'm ready when (if?) this is released.
I have seen in places other than PDAdb.net that the HTC HD2 is coming to the US/NA in Q1 2010, so March seems plausible to me...
...maybe you could link something that refutes this?
The only HD2 coming to the US in March is the TMobile version (1700/2100). Feel free to go and fetch me another source that states a 850/1900 UMTS other than that trash site you keep on citing.
PDAdb.net also states that there's a HD2 without 3G radio...you buy that also? ( http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2174&c=htc_hd2_gsm_htc_leo )
I'll be waiting for your alternate source.
lude219 said:
The only HD2 coming to the US in March is the TMobile version (1700/2100). Feel free to go and fetch me another source that states a 850/1900 UMTS other than that trash site you keep on citing.
PDAdb.net also states that there's a HD2 without 3G radio...you buy that also? ( http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2174&c=htc_hd2_gsm_htc_leo )
I'll be waiting for your alternate source.
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So then, what is a Telus customer's options for obtaining and using an HTC HD2?
Spike15 said:
So then, what is a Telus customer's options for obtaining and using an HTC HD2?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596339
..I don't really know much about Telus CDMA/UMTS deal. So check out the link and come up with your own conclusion.
lude219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596339
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Before I go any further I would like to give you a thank-you. 100% non-sarcastic. I am a forum veteran, I know how annoying it can be to have people just asking questions that you think should be obvious, but I'm also an enthusiast who likes to hop between nerdy enthusiasms, and therefore it's nice to have a thread or two where I can ask questions and get personalized responses, rather than wading through information trying to sort through confusing data on my own.
I do try and search these things, but up until recently the CDMA/GSM/UMTS thing totally eluded me, and Telus doesn't really help...they're very vague describing how their "3G+" network operates.
Thank-you for a link.
That said, the Telus network is UMTS 850/1900, and the Telstra one (according to this) is UMTS 850/2100.
I have been looking over that thread...I see people rejoicing about AT&T (which uses the same bands as Telus), so I'm assuming I'm missing something...
...I just want to be absolutely sure/clear.
Thanks.
: )
Spike15 said:
Before I go any further I would like to give you a thank-you. 100% non-sarcastic. I am a forum veteran, I know how annoying it can be to have people just asking questions that you think should be obvious, but I'm also an enthusiast who likes to hop between nerdy enthusiasms, and therefore it's nice to have a thread or two where I can ask questions and get personalized responses, rather than wading through information trying to sort through confusing data on my own.
I do try and search these things, but up until recently the CDMA/GSM/UMTS thing totally eluded me, and Telus doesn't really help...they're very vague describing how their "3G+" network operates.
Thank-you for a link.
That said, the Telus network is UMTS 850/1900, and the Telstra one (according to this) is UMTS 850/2100.
I have been looking over that thread...I see people rejoicing about AT&T (which uses the same bands as Telus), so I'm assuming I'm missing something...
...I just want to be absolutely sure/clear.
Thanks.
: )
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No, thank YOU for actually do some research before asking...unlike some of the people here who would just write a few words regarding something when the answer is somewhere on the first page. Now, like i said before, I'm not too much familiar with Telus or what kind of network they're running (CDMA\GSM) exactly, but if you say they run on UMTS (and not CDMA) 850/1900, then it should work with the Telstra version. Even though the Telstra is 850/2100, AT&T only needs one of those bands in order to have 3G...and since the Telstra has 850mhz band, it will work with AT&T (and possibly with Telus if all it really needs is a single band to operate on 3G).
lude219 said:
No, thank YOU for actually do some research before asking...unlike some of the people here who would just write a few words regarding something when the answer is somewhere on the first page. Now, like i said before, I'm not too much familiar with Telus or what kind of network they're running (CDMA\GSM) exactly, but if you say they run on UMTS (and not CDMA) 850/1900, then it should work with the Telstra version. Even though the Telstra is 850/2100, AT&T only needs one of those bands in order to have 3G...and since the Telstra has 850mhz band, it will work with AT&T (and possibly with Telus if all it really needs is a single band to operate on 3G).
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Thanks for this.
I've posted my question in the thread about the Telstra HD2, and I'll be calling Telus later today.
If anyone else has insight into this matter, please post!
I phone Telus and according to the guy I talked to it'll work just supporting UMTS 850...
...could use some further encouragement/confirmation however...
Can you kindly check your phones to see if quad band UMTS is supported? Very curious to see if 850/1900 3g/HSPA are supported out of the box.
I think on the SGS, the code to view bands was *#2263#
Many thanks in advance!
2100, 1900, 900, 850
Epedemic said:
2100, 1900, 900, 850
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Sweet! Just made my day
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2100, 1900, 900, 850
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Seriously, though, I'll sleep a lot better if I can get a screenshot showing that.
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That doesn't mean they are working. Many android phones show freqs in the service menu that they are not capable of.
nomisunrider said:
That doesn't mean they are working. Many android phones show freqs in the service menu that they are not capable of.
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Yes, but in stock form, those bands are NEVER enabled. Stock SGS only (and accurately) showed 3 bands enabled for WCDMA in automatic mode (see below), so this is VERY good news!
Thanks a bunch guys!!!
Any reason why expansys is telling their customers that the phones are locked down to two bands?
ph00ny said:
Any reason why expansys is telling their customers that the phones are locked down to two bands?
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Well, like I asked the other gentleman who said he talked to "Expansys employees that claim to have been playing with an I9100 and it only showed 2 bands for UMTS supported"... HOW did Expansys do this exactly?
If it was Expansys in the UK (which is the only location where they would have the handsets at this time), they can't test the 850/1900 bands. Then, at the time they claimed to have seen only dual UMTS band support, root wasn't available so no way could they have checked the actual bands enabled.
My guess: They were talking out of their ass.
Its normal for only two 3G bands to be enabled at once in my own experience with unlocked phones. There may be exceptions but I havent run into them over quite a few phones from moto, SE HTC or nokia. I had read this was due to battery life and the fact that you are not going to be anywhere where you can use three of them. The question is I think if expansys knew what they were doing when they tried to switch to the 850/1900. The phone would have needed to be rooted I believe based on what I read and whether they took this step is an unknown. If they had switched over the fact that it showed 850/1900 enabled and they were dumped to 2G would be pretty good evidence it worked. I am surprised we have not yet had anyone drop an at&t sim in a rooted phone yet and put this to rest. My trigger button is most twitchy.....
krabman said:
Its normal for only two 3G bands to be enabled at once in my own experience with unlocked phones. There may be exceptions but I havent run into them over quite a few phones from moto, SE HTC or nokia.
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Don't know about all those other phones, but if you look at my Samsung Galaxy S (unlocked) automatic band selection screenshot for 3g/WCMDA, it accurately only has the 3 supported bands enabled. 850, which its hardware does not support, is automatically disabled.
If these I9100s are on automatic mode, then I fully believe that 850 is indeed supported.
The point is that normally only two of them will actually work at once, not three or four. They can all be enabled but enabled and actually working at the same time is a different story.
edit... You keep on preaching to the choir btw, I think it works too, my point all along is you dont know it works until it actually does. Been right here in this exact spot and burned before. Dont think it will happen in this case but it can happen. For me when someone has it working it works. Until then I think it should work but dont know for a fact. Neither do you. As of my typing this not a single person has reported it working on AT&T bands or even being able to actually switch to and enable them in any search I have done which would last be about as long as it took me to type this ago.
Many phones shows frequencies in the service menu that they are not capable of. For example, the T-mobile G2X...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13039472&highlight=menu#post13039259
I agree that it "should" work, but like the g2x, we will not know for sure until someone actually does it.
krabman said:
The point is that normally only two of them will actually work at once, not three or four. They can all be enabled but enabled and actually working at the same time is a different story.
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Yeah, I think we're again in violent agreement, that's why I'm not preaching to you specifically. BTW, where is the technical proof that since my SGS has 3 UMTS bands enabled default, only 2 of them work at anytime? I work in antenna design, and from my understanding of band selection for most wireless chips, they don't necessarily work in pairs.
nomisunrider said:
Many phones shows frequencies in the service menu that they are not capable of. For example, the T-mobile G2X...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13039472&highlight=menu#post13039259
I agree that it "should" work, but like the g2x, we will not know for sure until someone actually does it.
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Your screen only shows that you can personally enable whatever band you want, doesn't show your phone's actual DEFAULTED/automatic mode enabled bands. You're not showing what every I9100 user above is showing. I hate to say it, but seriously, apples & oranges.
Since you're really bent on proving a point, can you show me which bands were ACTUALLY enabled with that g2x after you click on "Automatic?" Then, we'd be comparing the same thing.
Clove says SGSII will work on ATT bands
I have it in writing. I asked them directly and the response is below:
Apr 27
Hello, yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
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TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.clove.co.uk
Sebring5 said:
I have it in writing. I asked them directly and the response is below:
Apr 27
Hello, yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.clove.co.uk
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Thanks a bunch, but their response is a bit vague as they could be talking about just 2G/Edge + Voice over quad-band GSM. We are debating the quad-band UMTS 3G/HSPA support that is specified on Samsung's website, but has been challenged as of late.
cmd512 said:
Thanks a bunch, but their response is a bit vague as they could be talking about just 2G/Edge + Voice over quad-band GSM. We are debating the quad-band UMTS 3G/HSPA support that is specified on Samsung's website, but has been challenged as of late.
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This was the question put to them:
Will this phone support all ATT voice and data frequencies? I plan to use it with an ATT sim card. If it will not work with the ATT sim card, I need to cancel the order. The phone will be useless to me.
Their answer on April 27:
Hello yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
Sebring5 said:
This was the question put to them:
Will this phone support all ATT voice and data frequencies? I plan to use it with an ATT sim card. If it will not work with the ATT sim card, I need to cancel the order. The phone will be useless to me.
Their answer:
Hello yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
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Right, but you didn't specify 3G/HSPA speeds on AT&T data. UMTS/3G bands are separate from your normal GSM quad-bands. The GSM quad-bands will still give you AT&T voice and data, but the data portion will only be 2G/Edge speeds at best.
Hope this helps to clarify why Clove's response is somewhat vague.
Anyone knows it this thing supports TMobile 1700/2100 AWS Band? I am eagerly waiting for this device that will support TMobile USA AWS band/Wind Mobile Canada or Penta Band.
Or at least 3g?
As it was just announced, your going to have to wait a bit for details. As fare as well know its the same Note as ever, just with LTE compatibility on Korea.(which would NOT work on T-Mobile)
I read 1.5Hz 32gb and all bands.
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I can't find any info on bands and i'm looking hard
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GSM Arena says CDMA: http://www.gsmarena.com/ltepacking_samsung_galaxy_note_goes_live_in_korea-news-3446.php
This doesn't sound right because their still saying it has a Exynos chipset in it and all the other Korean articles say 1.5 snapdragon so right now we need more solid info on specs and performance
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Yeah their saying the only change was the 4g lte. But on samsung.Korea site it says 1.5hz and not 1.4hz
Im lost
STOP BEING LOST!
jkjk...
but seriously, want the damn Galaxy Note on TMobile...
Hey, so there's been a lot of discussion on whether or not the new S.Korean version of the SGN will support the 1700mHz band.
It has been reported that it is CDMA.
If you go to wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
and go down 3/4 of the page to where it says "Other Regions" you'll see the following:
"CDMA S. Korea 1750–1780 1840–1870"
That would seem to say that it will indeed support T-Mobile...
thoughts?
-GT
gerizafa said:
Hey, so there's been a lot of discussion on whether or not the new S.Korean version of the SGN will support the 1700mHz band.
It has been reported that it is CDMA.
If you go to wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
and go down 3/4 of the page to where it says "Other Regions" you'll see the following:
"CDMA S. Korea 1750–1780 1840–1870"
That would seem to say that it will indeed support T-Mobile...
thoughts?
-GT
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I don't understand. T-Mobile uses GSM. CDMA is a different technology than GSM. Why would you expect a CDMA phone to be usable on a GSM network?
Hey thanks! Whew, got a bit excited seeing the 1700 band in there, but if their 1700 band is only for CDMA, then you are quite right... no tmobile... but then verizon people could start getting excited...
-GT
Sigh, if this phone had T-Mobile bands, I would pay with cold hard cash right now. =(
Sucks that we can't even get the Exynos version of this, at least not for another year until Samsung makes a new phone with a new SoC that sports T-Mobile's bands.
Ditch T-Mobile and get straight talk. T-Mobile sucks anyway.
I just gotta ask.... why do people say T-mobile sucks?
I don't understand as I've only ever had great reception with them and great speeds. Plus my phone bill is smaller than if I went to AT&T, and I get more data and minutes. I have many times over the years been with friends or family who can't get reception on AT&T or Verizon and there I am rockin it on T-Mobile. In fact, some of my friends who use AT&T have started saying "More dropped calls in More places" about their AT&T service.
I mean if someone said AT&T sucks, I'd totally agree. They charge an arm and a let, they limit your data, and give you crap for minutes, and from what I see my friends experience, their coverage sucks in comparison to T-Mobile.
But that's just been my friends and family and my experience.
GT
-UPDATE-
Oh yeah, and if you're checking out the threads here, you'll see loads of people having issues with AT&T now shutting down their data on their SGN. So... AT&T doesn't really seem like a ride I want to buy a ticket for.
Who said anything about AT&T? I said straight talk. They use AT&T towers but have much better pricing. T-Mobile sucks because their phone selection is lacking and now because of their frequencies, you can't even get the Note.
5150Joker said:
Who said anything about AT&T? I said straight talk. They use AT&T towers but have much better pricing. T-Mobile sucks because their phone selection is lacking and now because of their frequencies, you can't even get the Note.
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How does the pricing look like on Straight Talk?
Been out of contract for close to a year now, just rocking an old HD2 that still works. Been so itchy with all these giga-sized screen phones.
Any new information available?
Hey guys I was it a store in Italy today they carry the note for purchase without a contract on this company called TIM.
I checked the specs on the box it has the correct T-Mobile bands.
699.99 euro
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I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
The micro sim port is for Verizon lte. Tmobiles is also a micro sim, and I think you still have to be connected to Tmobiles network to use wifi calling. Don't know about att.
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PhrostB said:
I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
crystalstylez said:
AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
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So which model is this?
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I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
PhrostB said:
So which model is this?
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The one on the left is probably SPRINT, as they've been hard-embedding the LTE SIM card into the device to bastardize it (they're doing it with all phones).
The right is probably AT&T/TMO.
ExodusC said:
I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
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Well, the internal chipset has GSM support. You wouldn't be able to change the SIM card, I believe. You'd be stuck on VZW's expensive international roaming plans.
But for global roaming it'd only support 800 Mhz and 1900 Mhz bands, unless Verizon had them add the extra hardware.
The AT&T version uses the same frequencies as the international version.
Side by side comparison i747 and i9300
I travel quite a bit outside of the US for work, and for international travel, your best bet is the ATT version since GSM will give you the most options outside of the North America. As mentioned, Verizon may be offering some limited compatibility, but you will be stuck to their plan, whereas the ATT version (esp if unlocked) will allow you to swap chips in other countries as desired.
I say ATT because band-wise it has the most international compatible ones, and the 2100 band will help in regions like Japan and Korea that don't use standard GSM.
TMo is probably the second choice, but because they use bands like 1700 that no one else really uses, you're still better off with ATT.
The CDMA versions would be the last ones (Verizon and Sprint) since their roaming will be limited.
This is assuming you are picking from the US versions - for Canadian models, just find the carrier that matches ATT (I believe Rogers is the closest).
I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
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I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
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Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
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Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
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I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
PhrostB said:
I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
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I would go with the at&t one if you were to choose a us version. Personally if I had to pick I would just go with the international version if that where the case. I wanna see what the quadcore can do in a phone and personally I'm fine running hspa. I currently have no LTE were I'm at anyway. I have to drive like an hour to Baton Rouge for a taste lol.
By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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Was just about to say this. I think you can also add an international long distance plan for a small fee (that way you can also call israeli numbers), which would make the phone work well anywhere you have wifi, then just get a prepaid sim to use while on the go. Just an idea tho.
I was only considering buying the phone here in the states and using it back home in israel with my regular carrier (Cellcom). Will the t-mobile S3 support calling-over-wifi even if I'm not on t-mobile's network?
Hello,
I recently bought the phone off ebay. It stated that this phone has the Band 4, 1700 and 2100 frequency. When I look at other sites with the same note 4 N910C model, it stated that the model does not support the 1700 mhz but only the 2100.
The seller gave me the samsung website and below stated that this phone supports B4 (AWS). Is that the same as 1700 and 2100 that T-mobile uses?
Can anyone confirm that the phone will work with my T-mobile network at 3g, 4g, or 4g LTE? I am in the USA and zip code 91746 if that matters. thanx!
The link of the phone i bought is below.
@ ebay website : /itm/221568854102?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
@ Samsung website: /ae/consumer/mobile-phones/galaxy-note/galaxy-note/SM-N910CZDEXSG
Won't let me post links as I am new. Sorry!
kilalachick said:
Hello,
I recently bought the phone off ebay. It stated that this phone has the Band 4, 1700 and 2100 frequency. When I look at other sites with the same note 4 N910C model, it stated that the model does not support the 1700 mhz but only the 2100.
The seller gave me the samsung website and below stated that this phone supports B4 (AWS). Is that the same as 1700 and 2100 that T-mobile uses?
Can anyone confirm that the phone will work with my T-mobile network at 3g, 4g, or 4g LTE? I am in the USA and zip code 91746 if that matters. thanx!
The link of the phone i bought is below.
@ ebay website : /itm/221568854102?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
@ Samsung website: /ae/consumer/mobile-phones/galaxy-note/galaxy-note/SM-N910CZDEXSG
Won't let me post links as I am new. Sorry!
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I guess you don't have the phone yet, but you may need to actually test it yourself. So far I have not seen any successful 910c units reported to get 4G in the US. That does not mean that you will be unable but the info is just not there(correct me if wrong).
Apparently both bands are needed-one band for out and another for inbound signal.
Good luck, I have been watching this as well.
I'm using mine in TMO Puerto Rico
I'm using my N910c in T-Mobile Puerto Rico and I get LTE. The only issue I have is a weak voice signal in places where I used to have better coverage. But I don't have problems with the data at all, at least as of now. Maybe in Puerto Rico LTE for Tmo is configured differently, but my LTE is working.
One thing I can tell you is that the package doesn't lists 1700 band in LTE AWS. But mine works ok on Tmo PR's network at least.
according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
tmobile uses many blocks of 1700, depending on regions,but only on 1900 and 1700 mhz , and AWS is the one wrongly called 1700/2100 (1710 to 1755 uplink, and from 2110 to 2155 MHz downlink)
so in theory it has everything you need for tmobile in any area, maybe you need an update , check that no one messed with flashing your radio to some other model to make it work on their area
Hi i have 910C i can get a 4G signal i live in nyc my speeds are about 17 over 20 averagely and at best 30 over 30 hope that helps .
From what I can tell, you will probably be able to use it, but you said N910C, but linked us to an N910U. Either way I'll post my findings for both.
T-Mobile's bands are 2, 4, 5, and 12.
N910U's bands are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, and 28.
N910C's bands are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, and 20.
I'm new to this stuff, but this tells me that either one will mostly support T-Mobile. I would use an app to see which band you're currently utilizing on your phone, and pray that it isn't 12, cuz neither one will work.
Bonus: From what I can tell, the N910C will work completely on AT&T. :good:
Guys, any news if the Galaxy Note 4 SM N910C accept lte 1700. Becuase it was about to get it from a store. But like the picture above of the box it doesnt specifies the 1700 network. And the LTE in my country uses the lte 4 1700/2100.
Regards,
Luis
gumichi said:
Guys, any news if the Galaxy Note 4 SM N910C accept lte 1700. Becuase it was about to get it from a store. But like the picture above of the box it doesnt specifies the 1700 network. And the LTE in my country uses the lte 4 1700/2100.
Regards,
Luis
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The box lists it as AWS, which is band 4.
gumichi said:
Guys, any news if the Galaxy Note 4 SM N910C accept lte 1700. Becuase it was about to get it from a store. But like the picture above of the box it doesnt specifies the 1700 network. And the LTE in my country uses the lte 4 1700/2100.
Regards,
Luis
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Did you ever buy it?
If so how is it working?
I'm in the same boat and would like to know as well
Fixed the 4g issue!
I have the N919c from UAE and I got it to work on 4g for tmobile by calling SUPPORT.
When we use auto assign to 4g network through the data settings it will not automatically pick the correct Tmobile APNs. The support rep told me what to type line by line to get it perfect and I'm on 4g as I type this. You have to call them to get the correct values for your region but we DEFINITELY CAN GET 4G IN THE USA! I'm in Tampa Bay Florida with 4g in the ghetto, lol
Yayz ☺
tiguy99 said:
Did you ever buy it?
If so how is it working?
I'm in the same boat and would like to know as well
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http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910c-unlocked-lte-32gb-gold-283790/
scroll down where it list network compatibility
imeem said:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910c-unlocked-lte-32gb-gold-283790/
scroll down where it list network compatibility
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Thank you for that however I was wondering how his personal experience was using the Note 4
I do appreciate you sharing the link by the way
tiguy99 said:
Thank you for that however I was wondering how his personal experience was using the Note 4
I do appreciate you sharing the link by the way
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Everything is good. coming from the nexus 4, i feel i have more control in my device (excluding the rooting and unlocking situation), due to microsd card, removable battery, and usb otg. Performance-wise, I think this phone will last me a very long time (if not probably my last phone upgrade). I don't game much so as long as apps, video and music playback, and web browsing is fast. When the battery falls below standard, i can easily just buy a new one from a reputable third party.
I just notice some "build quality" issue tho. Like the metal shiny sides r very easily scratched, and the top left corner of the screen near the led, you are able to move it if you push it in (made a thread about this but it seem to be normal). My note 4 had a defect, which was the the proximity sensor isn't working, so i sent the device back and i'm waiting for a new one or waiting to be repaired.
tiguy99 said:
Thank you for that however I was wondering how his personal experience was using the Note 4
I do appreciate you sharing the link by the way
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I have the model/variant on Infinity v2.0 Note 5 to Note 4 port, adore the device, flawless design and functionality..
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