Does anyone have a way of identifying whether an Atrix is UK or US? Both have the MB860 model number, right? I am trying to acquire a second hand UK model from eBay to replace my aging HTC Desire but two sellers I have contacted have asked how they can tell. Neither has the box or manuals. Am I right in thinking the UK version is simply called "Atrix" and the US is the "Atrix 4G"? Is there a way of telling which the phone is on the phone itself (e.g. something in the "About Phone" section perhaps?
I want to make sure I have WCDMA 900
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I think the one of the codes under the battery may contain a batch number or country number
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gordonthegopher said:
Does anyone have a way of identifying whether an Atrix is UK or US? Both have the MB860 model number, right? I am trying to acquire a second hand UK model from eBay to replace my aging HTC Desire but two sellers I have contacted have asked how they can tell. Neither has the box or manuals. Am I right in thinking the UK version is simply called "Atrix" and the US is the "Atrix 4G"? Is there a way of telling which the phone is on the phone itself (e.g. something in the "About Phone" section perhaps?
I want to make sure I have WCDMA 900
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Look at the System Version in About Phone.
quetzalcoatl2435 said:
Look at the System Version in About Phone.
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That wont work ican make mine look like a att phone, when it's a uk one
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stevendeb25 said:
That wont work ican make mine look like a att phone, when it's a uk one
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Well, yes, if you flash it. If it's locked, that's where to look. If it's unlocked, then there's no way of telling.
The picture below presents the ATRIX 4G AT&T. Notice the antenna plate below the speaker ? The antenna plate on the european atrix covers the whole place unlike at&t atrix.
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The picture below presents the ATRIX 4G AT&T. Notice the antenna plate below the speaker ? The antenna plate on the european atrix covers the whole place unlike at&t atrix.
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I can confirm, my atrix (UK) has a much larger metal plate.
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Oh and the UK ones have a soft touch rubber backing, rather than that ugly carbon fibre look.
But I suppose that could be changed too.
Bluemotion said:
I can confirm, my atrix (UK) has a much larger metal plate.
Edit
Oh and the UK ones have a soft touch rubber backing, rather than that ugly carbon fibre look.
But I suppose that could be changed too.
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My Atrix (SEA version) has the carbon-fibre pattern back, but yeah, the antenna is bigger.
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Here's what the UK Antenna looks like, for reference. You can also kinda see in the background that I also have the shiny faux-carbon fibre backplate.
Please excuse the sand, it's been on the beach a bunch.
This is my UK Atrix's back sorry about picture quality.
hmm, whats the point with the UK/EU atrix having a different antenna?
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hmm, whats the point with the UK/EU atrix having a different antenna?
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Because its more "4G" than the "Atrix 4G"... thats the way I put it in my comparison video.
The UK/EU version of the Atrix supports more 3G frequencies than the Atrix 4G.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3709&idPhone2=3708
Atrix 4G: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ (HSPA+ 14mbps = 4G if you're AT&T) 850/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones
Atrix UK/EU: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/G...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ATRIX-GB-EN.alt
**HSPA/HSPA+ Motorola doesn't actually list either phone as supporting that, but they list it as HSDPA 14.4mbps (Catagory 10)**
My video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5sCvPQYFdE
Note: my atrix 4g has the bigger antenna, this is because the back was replaced!
tehrules said:
Because its more "4G" than the "Atrix 4G"... thats the way I put it in my comparison video.
The UK/EU version of the Atrix supports more 3G frequencies than the Atrix 4G.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3709&idPhone2=3708
Atrix 4G: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ (HSPA+ 14mbps = 4G if you're AT&T) 850/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones
Atrix UK/EU: 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA/HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100mhz
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/G...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ATRIX-GB-EN.alt
**HSPA/HSPA+ Motorola doesn't actually list either phone as supporting that, but they list it as HSDPA 14.4mbps (Catagory 10)**
My video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5sCvPQYFdE
Note: my atrix 4g has the bigger antenna, this is because the back was replaced!
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Thanks for the extensive anwser, but the fact that att/us atrixes can flash an eu radio, which than works good for most makes me skeptical that it has anything to do with bands, although when i flashed my att atrix with an eu radio (living in the eu too), it had some rather massive power drain in idle, so this might again speak for the missing part of the antenna being solely for the purpose of the 900 band.
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Thanks for the extensive anwser, but the fact that att/us atrixes can flash an eu radio, which than works good for most makes me skeptical that it has anything to do with bands, although when i flashed my att atrix with an eu radio (living in the eu too), it had some rather massive power drain in idle, so this might again speak for the missing part of the antenna being solely for the purpose of the 900 band.
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You can flash between the two yes, purely because its the same hardware chip however, the revisions are slightly different as 900mhz 3G is locked of at hardware level and not software level, thus explaining the lack of antenna for the phone. (It took me a long time to accept this, I'll be honest, you can see that from my other posts in relation to this)
The other theory I could think of is that AT&T are under some illusion that their users don't plan on going out of the USA and have had it designed for their 850mhz 3G band, and what ever 2G band they have.
I'll be honest, the signal strengths in the same place are different on both my atrix's. The UK Version can get better signal strengths than then ATT version.
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Can you kindly check your phones to see if quad band UMTS is supported? Very curious to see if 850/1900 3g/HSPA are supported out of the box.
I think on the SGS, the code to view bands was *#2263#
Many thanks in advance!
2100, 1900, 900, 850
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2100, 1900, 900, 850
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Sweet! Just made my day
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2100, 1900, 900, 850
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Seriously, though, I'll sleep a lot better if I can get a screenshot showing that.
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That doesn't mean they are working. Many android phones show freqs in the service menu that they are not capable of.
nomisunrider said:
That doesn't mean they are working. Many android phones show freqs in the service menu that they are not capable of.
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Yes, but in stock form, those bands are NEVER enabled. Stock SGS only (and accurately) showed 3 bands enabled for WCDMA in automatic mode (see below), so this is VERY good news!
Thanks a bunch guys!!!
Any reason why expansys is telling their customers that the phones are locked down to two bands?
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Any reason why expansys is telling their customers that the phones are locked down to two bands?
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Well, like I asked the other gentleman who said he talked to "Expansys employees that claim to have been playing with an I9100 and it only showed 2 bands for UMTS supported"... HOW did Expansys do this exactly?
If it was Expansys in the UK (which is the only location where they would have the handsets at this time), they can't test the 850/1900 bands. Then, at the time they claimed to have seen only dual UMTS band support, root wasn't available so no way could they have checked the actual bands enabled.
My guess: They were talking out of their ass.
Its normal for only two 3G bands to be enabled at once in my own experience with unlocked phones. There may be exceptions but I havent run into them over quite a few phones from moto, SE HTC or nokia. I had read this was due to battery life and the fact that you are not going to be anywhere where you can use three of them. The question is I think if expansys knew what they were doing when they tried to switch to the 850/1900. The phone would have needed to be rooted I believe based on what I read and whether they took this step is an unknown. If they had switched over the fact that it showed 850/1900 enabled and they were dumped to 2G would be pretty good evidence it worked. I am surprised we have not yet had anyone drop an at&t sim in a rooted phone yet and put this to rest. My trigger button is most twitchy.....
krabman said:
Its normal for only two 3G bands to be enabled at once in my own experience with unlocked phones. There may be exceptions but I havent run into them over quite a few phones from moto, SE HTC or nokia.
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Don't know about all those other phones, but if you look at my Samsung Galaxy S (unlocked) automatic band selection screenshot for 3g/WCMDA, it accurately only has the 3 supported bands enabled. 850, which its hardware does not support, is automatically disabled.
If these I9100s are on automatic mode, then I fully believe that 850 is indeed supported.
The point is that normally only two of them will actually work at once, not three or four. They can all be enabled but enabled and actually working at the same time is a different story.
edit... You keep on preaching to the choir btw, I think it works too, my point all along is you dont know it works until it actually does. Been right here in this exact spot and burned before. Dont think it will happen in this case but it can happen. For me when someone has it working it works. Until then I think it should work but dont know for a fact. Neither do you. As of my typing this not a single person has reported it working on AT&T bands or even being able to actually switch to and enable them in any search I have done which would last be about as long as it took me to type this ago.
Many phones shows frequencies in the service menu that they are not capable of. For example, the T-mobile G2X...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13039472&highlight=menu#post13039259
I agree that it "should" work, but like the g2x, we will not know for sure until someone actually does it.
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The point is that normally only two of them will actually work at once, not three or four. They can all be enabled but enabled and actually working at the same time is a different story.
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Yeah, I think we're again in violent agreement, that's why I'm not preaching to you specifically. BTW, where is the technical proof that since my SGS has 3 UMTS bands enabled default, only 2 of them work at anytime? I work in antenna design, and from my understanding of band selection for most wireless chips, they don't necessarily work in pairs.
nomisunrider said:
Many phones shows frequencies in the service menu that they are not capable of. For example, the T-mobile G2X...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13039472&highlight=menu#post13039259
I agree that it "should" work, but like the g2x, we will not know for sure until someone actually does it.
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Your screen only shows that you can personally enable whatever band you want, doesn't show your phone's actual DEFAULTED/automatic mode enabled bands. You're not showing what every I9100 user above is showing. I hate to say it, but seriously, apples & oranges.
Since you're really bent on proving a point, can you show me which bands were ACTUALLY enabled with that g2x after you click on "Automatic?" Then, we'd be comparing the same thing.
Clove says SGSII will work on ATT bands
I have it in writing. I asked them directly and the response is below:
Apr 27
Hello, yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.clove.co.uk
Sebring5 said:
I have it in writing. I asked them directly and the response is below:
Apr 27
Hello, yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
TEL: +44 (0)1202 552936
FAX: +44 (0)1202 552937
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.clove.co.uk
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Thanks a bunch, but their response is a bit vague as they could be talking about just 2G/Edge + Voice over quad-band GSM. We are debating the quad-band UMTS 3G/HSPA support that is specified on Samsung's website, but has been challenged as of late.
cmd512 said:
Thanks a bunch, but their response is a bit vague as they could be talking about just 2G/Edge + Voice over quad-band GSM. We are debating the quad-band UMTS 3G/HSPA support that is specified on Samsung's website, but has been challenged as of late.
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This was the question put to them:
Will this phone support all ATT voice and data frequencies? I plan to use it with an ATT sim card. If it will not work with the ATT sim card, I need to cancel the order. The phone will be useless to me.
Their answer on April 27:
Hello yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
Sebring5 said:
This was the question put to them:
Will this phone support all ATT voice and data frequencies? I plan to use it with an ATT sim card. If it will not work with the ATT sim card, I need to cancel the order. The phone will be useless to me.
Their answer:
Hello yes the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been confirmed to work with AT&T voice and data network across the USA
Regards
Sales Team
Clove Technology
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Right, but you didn't specify 3G/HSPA speeds on AT&T data. UMTS/3G bands are separate from your normal GSM quad-bands. The GSM quad-bands will still give you AT&T voice and data, but the data portion will only be 2G/Edge speeds at best.
Hope this helps to clarify why Clove's response is somewhat vague.
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what we know so far:
Samsung Galaxy S II LTE™ smartphone
AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network
Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming
Device download speeds up to 75 Mbps*
Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor
4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)
Android 2.3 operating system
1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory
8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera
cpu : model armv7 proc (vfpv3, neon)
gpu : vendor qualcomm
renderer : adreno tm 220
Stock Firmware:
PDA : I727RUXKJ6
PHONE : I727RUXKJ6
CSC : I727RRWCKJ6
CAM FW VER : SDEH0D
PHONE FW VER : SDEH0D
ISP VER : FUJITSU M5MOLS
HW : REV_1.3
phone operates on the following bands on rogers network.
1700/2100 and 2500/2600 bands are being used.
bell is following suit since the 2500/2600 bands are shared with rogers in their joint Inushuk wimax venture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inukshuk_Wireless
they will continue to use these bands and will probobly dual band LTE once they get 700MHz spec after the auction if CRTC lets them bid for it.
1700/2100MHz
AWS (Sector 4 5 et 6 LTE)
UL (1710MHz - 1755MHz)
DL (2110MHz - 2155MHz)
2500/2600MHz
IMText (Sector 7 8 et 9 LTE )
UL (2500MHz - 2570MHz)
DL (2620MHz - 2690MHz)
yes i am the first.
read about it here.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/10/25/r...mber-of-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-lte-to-customers/
Can you confirm the RADIO bands?
which frequencies are market at the back of the box if any?
AllGamer said:
Can you confirm the RADIO bands?
which frequencies are market at the back of the box if any?
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there is no stickers on box. i can check escreens. one second. upping more pics.
just trying to figure out which radio bands Rogers is using for their "AWS LTE"
and perhaps it might be compatible with the AWS carriers in Canada
ten characters.
of the shaky hand pictures (or perhaps macro mode was not set in the camera) i made out it was model
SGH-727 or perhaps SGH-#727?
AllGamer said:
of the shaky hand pictures (or perhaps macro mode was not set in the camera) i made out it was model
SGH-727 or perhaps SGH-#727?
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SGH-i727 on back sticker SGH-i727R in android OS about screen.
pictures were taken with a LG Optimus 3D
infamouskid said:
SGH-i727 on back sticker SGH-i727R in android OS about screen.
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nice thanks!
trying to google up the specs of the phone
OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
the Samsung SGH-i727 comes with LTE radios supporting both AT&T’s 700MHz band and T-Mobile 1700MHz AWS bands
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...FCC-looks-like-a-Galaxy-S-II-with-LTE_id21794
AllGamer said:
OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...FCC-looks-like-a-Galaxy-S-II-with-LTE_id21794
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yeah but this model as well as telus variant are rumoured to only support AWS bands for roaming.
it's said these models will not support AWS as native home network options.
I'll unlock and test this sucker out when my buddy gets in. he's with wind.
rogers called me yesterday and asked if i wanted to do that...
i was 7th on the reserve list. I had to work.. they even offered to pick me up in cab to come to the store.
infamouskid said:
yeah but this model as well as telus variant are rumoured to only support AWS bands for roaming.
it's said these models will not support AWS as native home network options.
I'll unlock and test this sucker out when my buddy gets in. he's with wind.
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that would be great!
i'm pretty sure it should work once unlocked
just like the reversal on Tmo USA people buying it to unlock it and use it on AT&T
AllGamer said:
that would be great!
i'm pretty sure it should work once unlocked
just like the reversal on Tmo USA people buying it to unlock it and use it on AT&T
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some interesting stuff playing around in the e screens..
there is an evdo mode option and prl screens.
i was not aware of this until now. i will keep playing around and see what else i can find.
SAMOLED HD screen?
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SAMOLED HD screen?
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how do i determine that?
it looks like the bell sgs 2 amoled screen are they the same?
how about taking a pic of the phone box, it should listed what bands the phone support.
i love to get this phone if it works on att LTE network. wait, there' no att LTE in my area yet.
netnerd said:
how about taking a pic of the phone box, it should listed what bands the phone support.
i love to get this phone if it works on att LTE network. wait, there' no att LTE in my area yet.
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there is no sticker on the box.
the box is shiny cardboard piano black with some reflective stripes.
i remember there was a command that allowed me to select the bands manual in the galaxy s vibrant but i forgot the command to do it so i can check for you.
i'd love to do a video review for you guys.
if there is anyone that works in the industry and is a local in toronto who would like to review this unit on youtube i am more then happy to allow you to play with this phone for the viewers. pm me.
Killer Bee said:
SAMOLED HD screen?
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nope this is still the regular 800x480 screen SAMOLED+
not SAMOLED HD
infamouskid said:
there is no sticker on the box.
the box is shiny cardboard piano black with some reflective stripes.
i remember there was a command that allowed me to select the bands manual in the galaxy s vibrant but i forgot the command to do it so i can check for you.
i'd love to do a video review for you guys.
if there is anyone that works in the industry and is a local in toronto who would like to review this unit on youtube i am more then happy to allow you to play with this phone for the viewers. pm me.
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more importantly can you get the unlock code?
so we can test the Wind / Mobilicity
so far everything is pointing out to be same phone as the SGH-T989 (Hercules)
how does the battery seem to be holding up while on LTE?
Anyone knows it this thing supports TMobile 1700/2100 AWS Band? I am eagerly waiting for this device that will support TMobile USA AWS band/Wind Mobile Canada or Penta Band.
Or at least 3g?
As it was just announced, your going to have to wait a bit for details. As fare as well know its the same Note as ever, just with LTE compatibility on Korea.(which would NOT work on T-Mobile)
I read 1.5Hz 32gb and all bands.
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I can't find any info on bands and i'm looking hard
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GSM Arena says CDMA: http://www.gsmarena.com/ltepacking_samsung_galaxy_note_goes_live_in_korea-news-3446.php
This doesn't sound right because their still saying it has a Exynos chipset in it and all the other Korean articles say 1.5 snapdragon so right now we need more solid info on specs and performance
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Yeah their saying the only change was the 4g lte. But on samsung.Korea site it says 1.5hz and not 1.4hz
Im lost
STOP BEING LOST!
jkjk...
but seriously, want the damn Galaxy Note on TMobile...
Hey, so there's been a lot of discussion on whether or not the new S.Korean version of the SGN will support the 1700mHz band.
It has been reported that it is CDMA.
If you go to wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
and go down 3/4 of the page to where it says "Other Regions" you'll see the following:
"CDMA S. Korea 1750–1780 1840–1870"
That would seem to say that it will indeed support T-Mobile...
thoughts?
-GT
gerizafa said:
Hey, so there's been a lot of discussion on whether or not the new S.Korean version of the SGN will support the 1700mHz band.
It has been reported that it is CDMA.
If you go to wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
and go down 3/4 of the page to where it says "Other Regions" you'll see the following:
"CDMA S. Korea 1750–1780 1840–1870"
That would seem to say that it will indeed support T-Mobile...
thoughts?
-GT
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I don't understand. T-Mobile uses GSM. CDMA is a different technology than GSM. Why would you expect a CDMA phone to be usable on a GSM network?
Hey thanks! Whew, got a bit excited seeing the 1700 band in there, but if their 1700 band is only for CDMA, then you are quite right... no tmobile... but then verizon people could start getting excited...
-GT
Sigh, if this phone had T-Mobile bands, I would pay with cold hard cash right now. =(
Sucks that we can't even get the Exynos version of this, at least not for another year until Samsung makes a new phone with a new SoC that sports T-Mobile's bands.
Ditch T-Mobile and get straight talk. T-Mobile sucks anyway.
I just gotta ask.... why do people say T-mobile sucks?
I don't understand as I've only ever had great reception with them and great speeds. Plus my phone bill is smaller than if I went to AT&T, and I get more data and minutes. I have many times over the years been with friends or family who can't get reception on AT&T or Verizon and there I am rockin it on T-Mobile. In fact, some of my friends who use AT&T have started saying "More dropped calls in More places" about their AT&T service.
I mean if someone said AT&T sucks, I'd totally agree. They charge an arm and a let, they limit your data, and give you crap for minutes, and from what I see my friends experience, their coverage sucks in comparison to T-Mobile.
But that's just been my friends and family and my experience.
GT
-UPDATE-
Oh yeah, and if you're checking out the threads here, you'll see loads of people having issues with AT&T now shutting down their data on their SGN. So... AT&T doesn't really seem like a ride I want to buy a ticket for.
Who said anything about AT&T? I said straight talk. They use AT&T towers but have much better pricing. T-Mobile sucks because their phone selection is lacking and now because of their frequencies, you can't even get the Note.
5150Joker said:
Who said anything about AT&T? I said straight talk. They use AT&T towers but have much better pricing. T-Mobile sucks because their phone selection is lacking and now because of their frequencies, you can't even get the Note.
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How does the pricing look like on Straight Talk?
Been out of contract for close to a year now, just rocking an old HD2 that still works. Been so itchy with all these giga-sized screen phones.
Any new information available?
Hey guys I was it a store in Italy today they carry the note for purchase without a contract on this company called TIM.
I checked the specs on the box it has the correct T-Mobile bands.
699.99 euro
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and a video teardown for good measure.
so, what about this T-mobile 3G nonsense?
in November 2011 Skyworks announced that they would be providing their Multimode, Multiband (MMMB) power amplifier modules. in their press release they discussed two different chips the Skyworks SKY77606 and the SKY77604. for our purposes here the only difference we need to worry about is the SKY77604 support's T-mo's 3G and the 77606 does not. up until now nobody knew which of the two chips the Note was using in it. you can find the press release Here
if you can't see which one i'm talking about
it's hard to see. but the number on the top row says SKY77604. all we need now is the proper Modem/software modifications to enable 3G.
big thanks to XDA.cn for doing the teardown. you can find the original pictures here. Clicky
you can find detailed schematics and information for the SKY77604 here Clicky
There's a couple important points from that Skyworks page.
"This functionality covers multiple bands for 3GPP including bands I, II, IV, IX, X, V, VIII."
"The module is fully programmable through a Serial Peripheral Interface (SPI). "
For an exaplanation of bands, for those who need to become familar. Band I = 2100 MHz, Band IV = 1700 MHz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The part about "fully programmable" through SPI is encouraging if Samsung doesn't already take care of T-Mobile support.
StarTAC Fan said:
There's a couple important points from that Skyworks page.
"This functionality covers multiple bands for 3GPP including bands I, II, IV, IX, X, V, VIII."
"The module is fully programmable through a Serial Peripheral Interface (SPI). "
For an exaplanation of bands, for those who need to become familar. Band I = 2100 MHz, Band IV = 1700 MHz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The part about "fully programmable" through SPI is encouraging if Samsung doesn't already take care of T-Mobile support.
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even if/when T-mobile decides to bring the Galaxy Note to the US it will probably end up with a Snapdragon chipset in it to further push the '42mbps' phone thing.
I don't understand that part about why the CPU needs to be nerfed in order to achieve a higher bandwidth.
In any case, the point here is that T Mobile doesn't need to retail the GNote. You provided evidence that currently shipping model is theoretically enabled for use on T-Mobile. Or is that the point?
Yes that was the point the hardware is capable of running TMO 1700/2100, so that said, The real problem is figuring which radio modem that can be adapted (ported) to the Note so it will recognize those bands and use them correctly.
Of Course... that is........ nothing else is needed. But this is all good news
oka1 said:
Yes that was the point the hardware is capable of running TMO 1700/2100, so that said, The real problem is figuring which radio modem that can be adapted (ported) to the Note so it will recognize those bands and use them correctly.
Of Course... that is........ nothing else is needed. But this is all good news
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you cannot just copy any radio.img and enable t-mobile bands. the radio and ril will need to be reverse engineered for it to work.
i suspect the Meizu Mx also uses the SKY77604, trying to hunt down the Modem from that now to see if we can learn anything. (it has Pentaband 3G enabled)
WANT GALAXY NOTE ON T-MOBILE FTLOG
thats FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... I swear I said somewhere Ill put $20 on whoever can get that happening... no its not alot, but enough people put in and it will add up... besides, how can I afford the thing If I am paying out the arse for the bounty
tids2k said:
you cannot just copy any radio.img and enable t-mobile bands. the radio and ril will need to be reverse engineered for it to work.
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Of course, I was not saying that, but for sake of discussion here, in simple terms having something that is compatible and similar will take a lot of the reverse engineering experimentation and guess work off the table....... ergo not starting from zero.
It would be WAY easier if Samsung would just release that part of the code necessary for us to work off of.......... but I will file that wish with my chances of winning the lottery
Hammerfest said:
WANT GALAXY NOTE ON T-MOBILE FTLOG
thats FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... I swear I said somewhere Ill put $20 on whoever can get that happening... no its not alot, but enough people put in and it will add up... besides, how can I afford the thing If I am paying out the arse for the bounty
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+1 !!! WE ALL DO I have emailed Samsung John , Ann and all the others I know...and only get no-information happy talk
Hammerfest said:
WANT GALAXY NOTE ON T-MOBILE FTLOG
thats FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... I swear I said somewhere Ill put $20 on whoever can get that happening... no its not alot, but enough people put in and it will add up... besides, how can I afford the thing If I am paying out the arse for the bounty
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Ill put $50 down for T-Mobile!
Sent from my Beastly SGS2!
please, my LTE enabled Kor. Version Galaxy Note is miserably connecting to T-Mobile EDGE only....
rootuser11 said:
please, my LTE enabled Kor. Version Galaxy Note is miserably connecting to T-Mobile EDGE only....
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the korean Galaxy Note has a snapdragon chipset right? if so nothing going on in here will apply to that. since i can't imagine it uses the same power amplifier.
best you can do is try to flash a T989 (T-mo US SGS II) modem and see if that makes a difference. i can't imagine it will work though.
can you try dialing *#2263# from your main dialer and take a screen shot of what shows up under WCDMA bands?
Man if we get T-Mo and Pentaband support on this phone I may just have to sell my GSM nexus.
duowing said:
Man if we get T-Mo and Pentaband support on this phone I may just have to sell my GSM nexus.
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right now everything is in place, just need to attract some Dev attention to get working on it. i'm reaching out to everyone i have connections to in an attempt to draw as much attention to this as possible.
crazy talk said:
the korean Galaxy Note has a snapdragon chipset right? if so nothing going on in here will apply to that. since i can't imagine it uses the same power amplifier.
best you can do is try to flash a T989 (T-mo US SGS II) modem and see if that makes a difference. i can't imagine it will work though.
can you try dialing *#2263# from your main dialer and take a screen shot of what shows up under WCDMA bands?
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that code does not work on my note.
*#1234# works but shows nothing to do with modem.
and before that, i wish someone helps me with rooting this one.
if anything, it seems similar to Skyrocket, but to flash or anything, i need root access first, right?
zergRush does not work.
I've been waiting for some kind of update for the Galaxy note and this is good news
Don't say i never did anything for the community. here's your smoking gun.
crazy talk said:
Don't say i never did anything for the community. here's your smoking gun.
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It would suck if despite that, 3G still eventually never works on T-Mobile due to a lack of developers getting this phone. I won't hold my breath though.
Geez, I wish this would work with the T-Mobile spectrum! I'm willing also to anti up $20 for the bounty!
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Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
setspeed said:
Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
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Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
setspeed said:
Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
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His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
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ceo.mtcl said:
His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
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For now lol
doeboy711 said:
For now lol
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The next Nexus better have a quad with 2gb of ram!!!
djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Quite a lot of the new smartphones in Korea come with usim cards..
Don't ask me the finer details.
There are 3 major carriers in SK, two of them operate WCDMA networks.
I would not go for this phone. Like somebody else said, bad developer support.
ceo.mtcl said:
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Are saying that American version is going to have bad development support, when it's most likely going to be better.
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I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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check to make sure your APN is set to phone
zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
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ok so i want the international version, my carrier (h2o wireless) runs on att but they dont have 4g only 3g... my question is , would it work on my carrier?
Haha!
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Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
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You mean that ugly stock battery percentage that appears next to the battery icon and takes up additional space? If you have noticed, I do not have any app but actually a circles mod that can display battery percentage within the battery icon.
For the dev support I disagree, it seems they will get the same hardware as the int version only more ram and LTE support so int roms shouln'd be hard to port, am I wrong?
djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Speaking form experience the SIM card issue is no longer a problem, Korean phones now use SIM cards, all carriers here ( SK, KT, LG all use SIM cards)
All Android phones here as of today (SGS3 is still unknown) are sold carrier unlocked, I've used my Korean issue GalaxyS (m110s) in various countries with no issue (India/China/UK)
Problem with the Korean version is that' you'll lose FM functionality and gain a useless DMB (TV) chip instead, also it's dimensions are ever slightly larger, so getting nice cases might be slightly harder, or you'll have to order from Korea, not impossible though.
Phones can be bought off the shelf here, they're just more expensive than in Europe/US
I'm pretty sure the american version dev support will be just as good as the international.