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Finger Friendly Outlook

I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook. If ever there was a need to add some finger friendliness to an app, Outlook is the one. Is there a technical reason that this has not been done, or is it simply not possible? Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?
I know that there are a LOT of talented dev here, and I use your apps, and man would it be sweet (Like I would even pay for test versions of an app/client) to have something like this to go along with the S2 app and POcketCM/ThumbCal.

Sigh.......uh.........FTouchSL.
Is Google still working?

TheChampJT said:
Sigh.......uh.........FTouchSL.
Is Google still working?
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*Gasp* Wow! You mean FTouchSL now resizes hyperlinks and attachments and contact boxes and menu options and all that so that I don't have to hit them with a fingernail?! Man, I have TOTALLY not been keeping up with THAT piece of software! I'm so glad you informed us about those new developments in the FTouchSL world, Champ. I mean, I'm sure you're not equating "finger-friendly" entirely with just the ability to scroll, because that would just be incredibly short-sighted, asinine and totally miss out on a lot of what the original poster was probably asking for. So thanks, I'm going to go check out their new version right now.

Blowfish64 said:
*Gasp* Wow! You mean FTouchSL now resizes hyperlinks and attachments and contact boxes and menu options and all that so that I don't have to hit them with a fingernail?! Man, I have TOTALLY not been keeping up with THAT piece of software! I'm so glad you informed us about those new developments in the FTouchSL world, Champ. I mean, I'm sure you're not equating "finger-friendly" entirely with just the ability to scroll, because that would just be incredibly short-sighted, asinine and totally miss out on a lot of what the original poster was probably asking for. So thanks, I'm going to go check out their new version right now.
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Another sigh.....
PocketCM's contact input is quite similar to poutlook, I would suggest a different app, but the OP wanted a finger friendly poutlook, so yes I did suggest FTouchSL. One of the biggest downsides, in my opinion and I'm sure others, is that there is no "flick n' scroll" feature avail. So, that's right, I suggested it, and it is a perfect way to make poutlook finger-friendly, have a better idea?
P.S.: I'll quote the OP here, "Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?"

TheChampJT said:
Another sigh.....
PocketCM's contact input is quite similar to poutlook, I would suggest a different app, but the OP wanted a finger friendly poutlook, so yes I did suggest FTouchSL. One of the biggest downsides, in my opinion and I'm sure others, is that there is no "flick n' scroll" feature avail. So, that's right, I suggested it, and it is a perfect way to make poutlook finger-friendly, have a better idea?
P.S.: I'll quote the OP here, "Can there be an app that interacts with Outlook that would give this sort of functionality?"
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I also want to quote OP (and this is his first sentence): "I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook."
you are just trying to manipulate what OP said for you own cause...
so.. what your answer should have been.. "if you want scrolling then go for FtouchSL or Ftouchflo (free version), for other functionalities, currently there is no software (atleast i dont know about)"

oyegaurav83 said:
I also want to quote OP (and this is his first sentence): "I was wondering if anyone is working on a way to give the "PocketCM" treatment to outlook."
you are just trying to manipulate what OP said for you own cause...
so.. what your answer should have been.. "if you want scrolling then go for FtouchSL or Ftouchflo (free version), for other functionalities, currently there is no software (atleast i dont know about)"
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No manipulation here, personally I'm not too worried with what this guy uses or will use, but I gave a suggestion. Currently, your right, there is no other addition, other than FTouchSL, to WM software that will make it "finger friendly", but I'm sure glad you also found it necessary to go against my opinion. While this doesn't modify poutlook's design or layout, the scroll option does make it easier to browse through and select your data for viewing. I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !

TheChampJT said:
I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
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Yes, here is a suggestion. Drop your attitude when you respond to a legitimate question.

TheChampJT said:
No manipulation here, personally I'm not too worried with what this guy uses or will use, but I gave a suggestion. Currently, your right, there is no other addition, other than FTouchSL, to WM software that will make it "finger friendly", but I'm sure glad you also found it necessary to go against my opinion. While this doesn't modify poutlook's design or layout, the scroll option does make it easier to browse through and select your data for viewing. I'll kick back here and wait for your suggestion !
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actually "atleast i dont know about" was as much for me as for you..
and blowfish you can take it easy.. i think champ just misunderstood the OP..

I appreciate the "spirited" response my post has elicited! My intent was to truly get away from the stock Outlook interface as it is damn near impossible to navigate with one hand, even with FTouchSL. I have been using a trial version, and I have found, though the app is a pretty sweet piece of work, that it interferes with the "finger friendliness" of other app designed to handle kinetic scrolling and the like on their own.
With apps like PocketCM and ThumbCal, I am able to avoid much of the insanity of the GUI for Calendars, Contacts, and SMS. I would LOVE to have it this way with email as that is something that is integral to my core business and primary use of the device.

GScroll

Does anyone know about this ..looks like a cool app...ordering it right now
http://www.handango.com/catalog/Pro...&deviceId=2062&platformId=30&productId=239378

wow looks awsome, ill try the trial

looks neat - the question is how to enable/disable it without it interfering with the normal features of the phone...

basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though

xboxhaxorz said:
basically a basic version of ftouchsl, ftouchsl has gestures though
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It's using the touch panel though- the capacitive part of the screen...not the main screen itself.

Ok, I bought the app, but the installer doesn't work on Vista, can anyone please provide me with a .cab for this? Thanks!

its in program files or the directory you saved it in. so im installing right now, well tell you what I think of it very soon!

might hsve been just the way my settings were but when I used this it did not seem one bit functional, I advise you to try the trial first. I uninstalled it slmost immediately. Just ststing mu experiences yours may be different

Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.

axelpix said:
Wow, how secret is this. Need to register at Handango to download a trial that expires after 2 minutes, YES in words: TWO MINUTES.
And it comes as .msi file that requires .NET 3.5
Hell that's a challenge to try this thing out.
Hopefully it will not be considered as warez if I attach the cab here.
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Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy. Removing the attachment from here and please refrain from re-attachment else its bansville
Its like XDA needing registration to post something in here

Hey
I just tested the app.
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
But I like the feature to assign Applications to the Buttons.
So You have the 4 buttons ( home, back, call, end ), and
you can assign 4 Apps to its touchpanel.
So we can map a Taskmanager to a Button.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
greets doena

I attached the trial .cab file for everyone (without windows, .NET, etc) to try...
For me the program works good. The scrolling feature will help a lot of us, who can't easily find the directional buttons...

I HAVE POSTED A WARNING JUST 2 POSTS ABOVE YOURS. IF ANYONE CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS PM ME AND I'LL EXPLAIN. DO NOT POST THE CAB FILES HERE, HANDANGO DOESNT NEED XDA TO ACT LIKE MIRRORS. NEXT ATTACHMENT HERE WILL SEND THIS THREAD TO CLOSURE AND NON OBEYING MEMBER TO BANSVILLE

doena said:
Hey
I think the scrolling is not that best, or I m even doing wrong.
Maybe someone can test the scrolling, and tell his results
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Yes, the scrolling through G-Sensor is not the best experience in my opinion too. I tested this in TotalCommander and contacts list. It's too slow for me.
But the swipe scroll works quite fine. It's like a whole page down every swipe.
Yes. It will be considered as Warez to attach here since Handango needs registration to download this file which is mandatory as per their policy
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Understood. Thanks and sorry!

It works fine for me, but it doesn't work for games (I tested it with Gstunt).... Maybe future releases will solve the problem...

I tried it for the 2 minutes it was worth. The scrolling is really just one movement up or down at a time...not really kinetic scrolling. It was a little tricky to get it on and off also (waiting to feel the vibration of it comin to life). I may buy it though...for the price I'll play with it...it does keep your figners off of the screen.

I played with the demo this morning instead of doing work.
Not bad with the scrolling, although it does not recognize 100% of the finger swipes. I couldn't get tap and tilt to work at all. And the slide over the center key was glitchy.
What I really would prefer is an app that will scroll up and down just by me tapping, but not clicking, the screen. It seems Gscroll could add that feature pretty easily.

The demo cab is available at the programmer's website, so it is neither "warez" nor is there any need to post it here. The website is www.mobilesrc.com.

Similar issues for me...
For the money, it's a reasonable piece of software, but useablility... it's not that good in my opinion. As mentioned above, it's far too slow. One 'swipe' moves one item in the list. It needs to be kinetic like a finger swipe on the screen. And it's not that responsive to touch. Sometimes it'll respond OK, other times it ignores my touch on the pad.
Great idea... needs a little more work

^is this guy for real, or what?
didn't he see the 2 posts from the mod in this thread?
well, look like the thread will be closing soon.

SIMPLE OS for pocket pc

i just came accross this awsome OS for Windoes mobiles i have a O2 stealth and it works perfectly on my phone just some times it crashes and is lil unresponsive at times but i dont know if we can develop it or no
try it
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php

Bad link :/

fusioncoast said:
i just came accross this awsome OS for Windoes mobiles i have a O2 stealth and it works perfectly on my phone just some times it crashes and is lil unresponsive at times but i dont know if we can develop it or no
try it
http://simple-os.en.softonic.com/pocketpc
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Download link is broken. Can you upload the SimpleOS_latest.rar here?
Thanks in advance!

It' here, multires, tested on Diamond, some crashesh, maybe need more work under win 6.1
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php

Driskol said:
It' here, multires, tested on Diamond, some crashesh, maybe need more work under win 6.1
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php
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Thanks, I will try it.

Wow, this is very cool!!
I got this to work on my Touch Pro. To run it click on the simpleos.exe once you unzip it. It took a few times to get it running with a few crashes, but now it boots everytime np. Once it boots, click only in the password box and it should boot right up. It crashes if you click anywhere else. Actually this software is very very cool. Very stable once you get it to boot. Not very finger friendly though. Almost seems like development has stopped, which is too bad.
Also notice there are multiple desktops with widgets ect. You can access from the shortcuts in the upper right corner. Unfortunately on the 3rd desktop it crashed.

Open Source Code?
It WAS open source? I can't seem to download the source no more. Anyone willing to Hard Google and find the source? It's just too cool to not be in development. :\

Is this just an overlay for Windows Mobile? or does it actually reboot into a Linux shell?
Looking at the screen shots, it seems it is just an overlay.

It's skin

It's just an overlay everyone. I tried this last year on my touch and it works great! I'll see if I can if the sources somewhere and post at my site later.

I emailed the developer and got this reply....
"The program is no longer in active development. Feel free to download full source code in C#.NET. I am glad it sparked your interest, I hope you can contribute and make SimpleOS better. This is the reason it became Open Source!
Go head spread the word at xdadevelopers.com"
I will try and get them to provide a working link to the source code.

Source Code link has been fixed. The file is too large to attach. If you can't download let me know and I will split it into 2 smaller files. Enjoy!!
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/source.php

Direct link is here
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/dl.php?file=SimpleOS.7z

I think it looks great to be completely honest. Maybe if someone were to develop on it, it might be a more feasable option than using the standard windows 6.0/.1 interface until 6.5 becomes a bit more stable.

Are there any developers out there that would be interested in continuing this project? I think its has great potential.

yes it is way better than copying iphone interface and also trying various interfaces to get better user friendly apps .

it also boots there is a option for it to boot

Easy & Effective lock ?

Hey guyz,
I've been searching on this forum and others on the net and i can't find a useful, stupid simple lock.
Anything simple like lock when sleeping and unlock when waking without any extra options like S2U2 will do.
How come it isn't already in X1... shame.
Any idea ?
Thanks...

USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION !
There are multiple threads regarding this on XDA.....
My fav is :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451

im trying to write my own locker. but it is very hard to learn c++ : )

personally i used slideaction and s2u2 combination.. but if you dont like s2u2 just use slideaction, set the x1 to lock and off when it slider is closed, then unlock it when it is open. s2u2 also can unlock when u change orientation, so i just let s2u2 handles that while slideaction handles the only the switch off screen part..

fotoingo said:
USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION !
There are multiple threads regarding this on XDA.....
My fav is :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
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Well I used it... This thread is more like a request.
We need that Lock. I find S2U2 weird and too powerful for what I (we ?) need.

ChE84 said:
Well I used it... This thread is more like a request.
We need that Lock. I find S2U2 weird and too powerful for what I (we ?) need.
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Did you read the thread I posted ?

throttlelock
Have you seen this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525
Very clean and simple app. Free, just need to register for keygen, monthly, or contribute.
(edit) or if you do not like that, here is an even simpler lock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478606

fotoingo said:
Did you read the thread I posted ?
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Yep, I knew the app, I find it ugly to use.
Ctrl+A said:
Have you seen this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525
Very clean and simple app. Free, just need to register for keygen, monthly, or contribute.
(edit) or if you do not like that, here is an even simpler lock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478606
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Thanks !! TL seems great. I'll give it a try.

Well finally tried them all and uninstalled them.
Some are not compatible with alarms clocks and I was worried it crashes my alarm and make me go late to work and others were turning off my phone too soon (S2U2 shuts down my screen after 3 secs... wtf ?).
So I'm back to square one !

Slide to unlock - But not S2U(2)

I'm looking for a slide-to-unlock solution for my X1. It should NOT come with any additional features (as S2U2 unfortunately does). I don't need to lock it for incoming calls, my phone software does this by itself. I only need an app which will lock the device on wakeup so I have to slide to unlock. Nothing more and nothing less. The best thing would be a Today-plugin.
One more question: If such a software does not exist, how hard would it be to create one? I am an experienced programmer in VB, JavaScript and PHP, so I don't think I would have to learn a lot. The question is just whether the process of locking/unlocking the phone and capturing the wakup-event etc. is actually easy to program. I don't want to write more than 50 lines of code for this and it has to work very well with that. Do you think this is possible?

Firefall! said:
I'm looking for a slide-to-unlock solution for my X1. It should NOT come with any additional features (as S2U2 unfortunately does). I don't need to lock it for incoming calls, my phone software does this by itself. I only need an app which will lock the device on wakeup so I have to slide to unlock. Nothing more and nothing less. The best thing would be a Today-plugin.
One more question: If such a software does not exist, how hard would it be to create one? I am an experienced programmer in VB, JavaScript and PHP, so I don't think I would have to learn a lot. The question is just whether the process of locking/unlocking the phone and capturing the wakup-event etc. is actually easy to program. I don't want to write more than 50 lines of code for this and it has to work very well with that. Do you think this is possible?
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As I don't know how screen slides are registered, I'm not 100% sure, but I can't imagine it'd need more than 100 lines.
Things you have to keep in mind that it has to be full-screen, always on top, locking hardware buttons as well etc.
If you manage to get this to work, I'd be very much obliged, as I'm looking for the exact same thing!
My advice: Make it semi-transparant and add an easy to modify image (png) that tells you to slide, which turns from red to green when you're set and then disappears.
I recommend making it fullscreen slide, the way lockmelite does, but then with the image added.

Nice to know that I'm not the only one looking for it
So you would propose a transparent fullscreen app? I would prefer using the Windows-lock, but I think once it's in, the only way to unlock is through the standard procedure. Can anyone confirm this? What other ways are there to lock the touchscreen? Is there a way to keep a transparent windows always on top? And an easy function to lock the hw-keys? Would you just set up a sort of hook and don't pass the keypress event? Is there a way to ensure that the event will not be passed on to other apps such as AEButtons? I really need some serious information on this before I start reading tutorials and organizing compilers etc.

simple screen lock that works
I came across this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525
Works well, I had to set "on call unlolck" and switch of it's "slide to answer" function to prevent issues with my current ROM.
works a charm on my X1 using TouchIT 4.5 !
tried a few others out, but all had one or another issue. For more, search for "screen lock" in main forum search.
(edit) although free needs simple monthly renewal of registration keygen

Ctrl+A said:
I came across this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525
Works well, I had to set "on call unlolck" and switch of it's "slide to answer" function to prevent issues with my current ROM.
works a charm on my X1 using TouchIT 4.5 !
tried a few others out, but all had one or another issue. For more, search for "screen lock" in main forum search.
(edit) although free needs simple monthly renewal of registration keygen
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Yeah, first monthly registration sucks and I don't like the software. I've had it installed twice and I'm not satisfied (R2A ROM though). Performance is bad, many mismatches because of this. Application always comes in to protect, for example at boot - but it's completely useless because you can blast it away if you know enough to install it in the first place. deifnitely a no-go for me.

Firefall! said:
One more question: If such a software does not exist, how hard would it be to create one? I am an experienced programmer in VB, JavaScript and PHP, so I don't think I would have to learn a lot. The question is just whether the process of locking/unlocking the phone and capturing the wakup-event etc. is actually easy to program. I don't want to write more than 50 lines of code for this and it has to work very well with that. Do you think this is possible?
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I think it might be alot harder then you imagine. Programming in PHP is very, very easy. The best option is probably try to find one of the eary s2u2 cabs. Maybe A_C has some tips for you

For Dev... MSDN may have the answer
If you are looking for examples of how to program the slide yourself, there's a good sample on codeproject:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/IPhoneUI.aspx
It's written in C#.NET but if you can program VB.NET you should be able to read through and vaguely understand what's going on.
The sample is an iPhone clone UI, not just the slide-to-unlock bit and I think the sample is QVGA. Either way, its better than having to work it all out from scratch ;o)
I've been meaning to write something similar but unfortunately life isn't giving up the time at the moment. If I get around to it I'll post it on XDA for everyone else to enjoy!

Have you tried PocketShield?
http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm
I liked it ..

fast rock said:
Have you tried PocketShield?
http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm
I liked it ..
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Damn, this program is nice!
I always have problems with S2U2 because it's slow, often incoming calls messes the screen so I'm not able to answer and sometimes the color depth of the screen changes to approx. 5 colors after unlocking and only a softreset helps.
PocketShield seems to be cut to the essential: locking and unlocking.
I'll try it a bit more

fast rock said:
Have you tried PocketShield?
http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm
I liked it ..
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Does it work well with X1 ?

It works very well ..

here's one that I REALLY like, nice and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478606

ChE84 said:
Does it work well with X1 ?
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It does, but with not all of its features. PocketShield has 3 essential ways to unlock: light, slide and gestures.
X1 does not have a G-sensor, so gestures unlock won’t be available.
It does has a light sensor but apparently it is very difficult for 3rd apps to access it, so light unlock will neither be available.
Only “slide to unlock” will work. And due to this a special deal has been made for the Xperia community… You might be interested: http://www.pocketshield.net/Xperia

pckshd said:
It does, but with not all of its features. PocketShield has 3 essential ways to unlock: light, slide and gestures.
X1 does not have a G-sensor, so gestures unlock won’t be available.
It does has a light sensor but apparently it is very difficult for 3rd apps to access it, so light unlock will neither be available.
Only “slide to unlock” will work. And due to this a special deal has been made for the Xperia community… You might be interested: http://www.pocketshield.net/Xperia
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I'm gonna check this out! Sounds good... Thanks!