Hi All
I have an O2 XDA Exec running version 1.30.107 WWE of the ROM dated 04-Nov-2006.
I've let rather a lot of SMS text messages accumulate in my inbox (approx 1,200) and sent items (approx 1,600).
Recently I've tried to delete many of them and move some others into some new sub folders. All is fine until I next reboot the phone and at that point all of the texts are re-instated back to their state on 01-Mar-2009!
So deleted texts are undeleted. New texts sent or received since that date disappear and texts moved to subfolders are moved back to their original folders! The new subfolders themselves disappear. So it's a sort of ground hog day
Has anyone seen this before? Does anyone have any ideas for me?
I've experimented with making just small numbers of deletes before rebooting in case it couldn't cope with the large quantity of changes I originally made. Unfortunately that made no difference. I've experimented with syncing my phone both before and after the deletes in case that would make a difference again it didn't. I've also tried deleting items from the "Deleted Items" folder but even then, once rebooted the messages come back.
I really hope someone can give me an insight into what's going on and how I can fix it.
Thanks
David
I now understand how to solve this.
For some reason, if you reset the Exec just afer you have deleted or moved text messages then these changes are entirely forgotten during the reboot. You need to give the Exec 5 or 10 minutes to think about the changes before you reboot!
I know it's hard to believe but it seems to be true.
Related
Only recently got my T-Mobile branded Vario direct from them brand new and I've noticed that after I perform a soft reset all my messages, regardless of whether they have been read or not, get wiped.
I've checked Deleted Items, Drafts, Inbox, Outbox and Sent Items folders and they are all empty! I can absolutely assure you that I did not delete any of the messages myself.
Thinking that I might of had some conflict with another piece of sofware I had installed I decided to perform a hard reset and get everything set back to T-Mobile factory defaults. After all the Extended-Rom branding stuff got installed I decided to leave the phone exactly as it was, no tweaking of any settings, no installing any extra apps, no active-syncing, no nothing - a fresh factory reset!
Then, I sent another text message to the Vario. It arrived and after I read it and confirmed that it was indeed in the Text Message Inbox folder I quit out of the message app and perform a soft reset. Guess what happened after it restarted? Yep, the text message has miraculously disappeared
Anybody else seen this happen?
Anyone care to comment? Please reply even if your text msgs DON'T get wiped as I'd like to find out whether it's normal or not.
not got a T-mobile ROM, i'm using the O2 one (and now the updated version) and have never lost text messages from a soft reset (only a hard reset)
Sry i cant help further
just started happening to me and i been using the 2.17 rom.. i noticed this yesterday it deleted like 5 msgs but i got my other ones there so i was like WTFD?
I've just had this on a Universal (Orange M5000) with the latest Orange ROMs.
Prior to this, I suddenly had days and days of delivery notifications come flooding in, although this may have been an issue with either Orange or another network provider.
hi for me its not the txt messages but all new files that is created on the sd card gets deleted an all deleted files reappears after a soft reset
m really bugged
if ne 1 knows whats the problem pls help me
thanks
Loosing SMs messages.
If you have received a SMS message and soft reset before closing POutlook then I have found that you do loose the message.
By closing, I mean really closing it - not just pucsing the X button.
Likewise if you have deleted a message or moved it then the message(s) come back.
It seems to be that POutlook doesn't commit the changes to it's database until you close the app - or switch accounts.
Charlie Grillo
That certainly seems to be the case with me, I was having trouble syncing with activesync, just dying each time I tried so in the end I hit the soft reset, I'm fairly certain that I still had outlook running at that point.
Actually, thinking about it, there were two batches of sms msgs, and I did end task on outlook after the first, so I can maybe understand that the second lot could be lost, but not the first?
Is there any way of validating the system databases?
The problem that I was having, disappearing SMS msgs, seems to have gone away and everything is still intact now even after multiple soft resets.
In case anyone else gets this strange behaviour, I can indeed confirm that POutlook.exe was indeed closed as I had also double checked the running programs list * to ensure no other processes were open that could conflict.
( * Start -> Settings -> System -> Memory ->Running Programs )
bbut also make sure tmail.exe is closed to.. get memmaid ull be suprised at all whats running.. the best thing to do is to use SmartSKey and make that close ur txt message app completelty!
poutlook.exe tmail.exe and sMSNserver.exe/pMSNserver.exe ...if these are open chances are ur sms/mms may be wiped after a soft-reset i make sure to sync my phone to pc and use jeyo outlook companion b4 a soft-reset
This might be a bit long winded so my apologies in advance.
My XDA11 dumped itself and did a hard reset a couple of days back.
Luckily I had an oldish backup.stg file and was able to restore virtually everything to it's prior, if a bit old, state by restore via active sync.
However I discovered that my SMS and e-mail inboxes were full of messages which were niether readable or deletable.
Interestingly none of them have the envelope icon beside them.
Tapping a message produces a screen activity as if opening the message but nothing appears.
Similarly, tapping and attempting to delete a message results in nothing happening.
However any new SMS messages and e-mails react as usual.
I was able to remove all the 'ghost' messages for my e-mails by deleting all the accounts and then reinstating them however it appears this can't be done for the SMS account.
Through file explorer I deleted all the .mpb files in the /windows/messaging folder. This did not remove the ghosts either.
I have spoken unsuccesfully with O2 who merely think I should hard reset again and then reinstall everything from the ground up. This seems a bit screwy as there has to be folder/file in which these headers are held. They were also apparently unaware that activesync to a hard reset XDA requires I establish a new partnership which wont allow access to the old data (OK I can get round that but that's not the point....)
So has anyone else had this problem and sorted it I wonder?
I can live with these headers but it would be nice to lose them.
Thanks
Slim
Hi all,
since a few days ago, the text messages I send and the calls I make/miss don't get saved in the Sent messages folder and the Call History menu. I have no idea why this is, as I am not aware of doing anything that could have caused this. I am running the 1933.18533 Thingonaspring ROM v 3.2 if it matters. I in fact have a large number of messages saved (about 2.6k received and 1k sent ones), but I have plenty of free memory both in the device and on the card. And yes, I do have the "Keep copies of sent items in the Sent folder" option checked If anyone has an idea how to solve the problem, please let me know. Thanks a lot!
longlife
Solved
Alright, I solved the problem myself in the end.
For some reason, from 17th to 24th January, the phone saved sent messages and call logs as if it was February. So now everytime I opened the Sent items folder and thought the message I just sent didn't get saved, it actually did, but I didn't see it, as I have the most recent messages displayed first and the phone naturally thought that the message from 24.2.2008, for example, is newer than the just-sent one from, lets say, 26.1.2008. So I kept seeing the same messages again and again while the ones I actually sent got saved behind them
I have no idea how the date change happened though, and the weird thing is, that it didn't affect the incoming messages..just the outgoing ones and call logs.
Anyway, now I'm happy everything is working again And sorry for spamming the forum
longlife
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this so move the topic if necessary.
A few weeks back I bought an X1(Branded Dutch T-Mobile Version) and I've been having problems with the receiving of SMS'. My Today screen indicates there are new messages, eg. SMS \ MMS: 1 unread. But when I check my messages there's nothing there. I tried to see if it may be a false positive, by having a friend send me a text message, but the number did increase, and the message box was still empty. I tried reseting the rom, which obviously killed the messages, but new messages are still not getting through.
Anybody else experiencing the same problem? Anybody know what is going on? How can I recover the (invisible) messags?
Thanks a bunch
that's weird. uh, really weird. it's either YOU have a bad rom/phone software so better have it checked OR your not looking in your SMS/MMS inbox but your outlook inbox instead.
Aidamina said:
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this so move the topic if necessary.
A few weeks back I bought an X1(Branded Dutch T-Mobile Version) and I've been having problems with the receiving of SMS'. My Today screen indicates there are new messages, eg. SMS \ MMS: 1 unread. But when I check my messages there's nothing there. I tried to see if it may be a false positive, by having a friend send me a text message, but the number did increase, and the message box was still empty. I tried reseting the rom, which obviously killed the messages, but new messages are still not getting through.
Anybody else experiencing the same problem? Anybody know what is going on? How can I recover the (invisible) messags?
Thanks a bunch
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i had the same prob, someone sent me a text and the phone froze, when i turned it on had that message. the only way i found to get rid of it was to delete the message coversation with the person.
i had the same problem, only a hard reset solves the problem. after the hardreset everythink worked fine. some other people at the german xperia board got the same problem.
I tried to hard-reset to no avail. Deleting previous conversations doesn't help. Even SMS' from unknown contacts stay hidden. When I try to export my messages using PIM Backup 2.8 It shows that I have 2 'Text Messages' folders in the export root. One with the hidden(unread) messages. And one with the visible ones. When I exported the messages and reimported them, they stayed hidden. When I wrote a program to parse the PIM Backup exported file. I could see that the hidden messages get properly exported.
Any ideas?
Hearing that the German based roms have troubles too, could it be a reg setting that is wrong, something with localization? I really hate that I have a Dutch rom.
i had this problem i simply hard reset it and it was gone...if this didnt work then try reflashing the orignal rom
I just ran into the same issue.
Funny is that I did hard reset on not flashed orginall Dutch T-mobile X1 which was working good. Well now it is not :/
Tip for others looking for a quick workaround: use uiggmo light panell to read them. The only way I found so far.
I am flashing mine today. (Before I will hand it over due to case issue).
hi all!
i have the following problem with my messaging client, and thus i'm in search
of the database file which stores (caches) the conversation history in
conversation mode:
after every rom update i perform (and after restoring the messages with either
pimbackup or spb-backup) my conversation history is screwed up. i get wrong
contact pictures (only in messaging client) or no pictures at all, entrys showing
only the contact numbers, not the names (if i tap on such entry the sms contact
page pops up, but without any sms inside) and other strange things.
it's not a problem with the restored sms'es itself, in traditional mode they
are all ok. what's screwed up is only the conversation page (not for all entrys,
but for most of them).
when i recieve or send a sms from a specific contact then the entry in the
conversation mode gets fixed, as well sometimes when i edit some contact
details for a specific contact.
that's the reason why i believe that it's just the conversation database file
which is out of order after a restore, and if i would be able to force a rebuild
of this file (by simply deleting it) my problems would be gone.
i searched this forum and google, but it seems that nobody has an idea
where this file (or is it a reg entry? i doubt that!) is located.
again: i'm not searching for the database for the sms'es, i'm searching for
the database or cache file for the htc messaging client which stores the
conversation history!
can anybody please point me to the right direction?
many thx in advance!
regards,
markus
Hi,
I have the same problem....
Pomi
Hi,
Any solution up to now?
It's annoying
no, sorry: no solution till now!
i flashed my hd2 two days ago, and i fixed the database (for most of the contacts) by adding them one by one to the people tab. after each person i had to do a soft reset, after booting up again the sms history of the last added person was ok!
if some kind soul can tell us where the damn database is located it would be much easier...
Thanks,
It helped a little but still a big mess,
Hopefully good solution will be discovered soon
If you have Jeyo Mobile, you'll see that they create a folder called "conversations" under SMS..
Basically they dump a copy of the latest SMS there, and that'll be the sms on display at the start of the thread.
What I used to do is to delete the stuff in the conversations folder, delete the folder, back up.
After backing up WITHOUT the conversations folder, I'll restore.
Here's where the problem comes in...
Sometimes I restore in the conversation mode, sometimes I restore in the traditional mode. They work most times, but not all times. The conversation threads get rebuilt.
However recently (30 min ago) i just flashed a custom rom... and I realised that my method doesn't work anymore.. let me try try and I'll update again.
I just realised that with the new rom, my method still works.. but it seems to slows the entire phone down as it rebuilds the conversations... (previously I was using the official rom, and it works plenty fast)..
5 min and it's still rebuilding... maybe I should just restart my phone a few times...
moooxooom said:
I just realised that with the new rom, my method still works.. but it seems to slows the entire phone down as it rebuilds the conversations... (previously I was using the official rom, and it works plenty fast)..
5 min and it's still rebuilding... maybe I should just restart my phone a few times...
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i have had the same problem when i restored all my sms's with myphone.
i flashed to energy rom and installed htc message (its by default removed from that rom ) and my hd2 also slowed down, i have had it like that for about a day and then i realised its not going to be fixed by waiting so i removed all my messages and it was fast again
jamieeeee said:
i have had the same problem when i restored all my sms's with myphone.
i flashed to energy rom and installed htc message (its by default removed from that rom ) and my hd2 also slowed down, i have had it like that for about a day and then i realised its not going to be fixed by waiting so i removed all my messages and it was fast again
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I see.. I think it may all be due to the newer manila versions not handling massive number of SMSes... I was on 1.66 till recently, and I was doing almost 2000 smses WITHOUT any slowdowns...
I trimmed it to 1000 smses to move to custom ROMs and now it seems like a few of the newer ROMS supporting the "extra" ram can't handle even just that...
moooxooom said:
I see.. I think it may all be due to the newer manila versions not handling massive number of SMSes... I was on 1.66 till recently, and I was doing almost 2000 smses WITHOUT any slowdowns...
I trimmed it to 1000 smses to move to custom ROMs and now it seems like a few of the newer ROMS supporting the "extra" ram can't handle even just that...
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hmm now you mention it i think that is true. i am using a rom that supports the extra ram.
how is ur hd2? has it shown any signs of improvement? to be sure. you are having slowdown of your entire hd2 right? weather animations, everything that moves actually. can you try and delete a random conversation. then it should be fast again for a short period of time..
jamieeeee said:
hmm now you mention it i think that is true. i am using a rom that supports the extra ram.
how is ur hd2? has it shown any signs of improvement? to be sure. you are having slowdown of your entire hd2 right? weather animations, everything that moves actually. can you try and delete a random conversation. then it should be fast again for a short period of time..
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my HD2 showed no signs of improvement. It got really bad: I couldn't make calls: the system spent 38 seconds trying to load everything on the contact page when I tried to make calls. I was outside, in need of a phone, so I hard-reset the phone (just so that I have something that I can use). It was perfect from there (you know, as a blank phone with no info).
Loading 1000+ contacts up again didn't cause the same issue again.
Loading just 500+ smses started the whole nonsense again.
Tried with a few other ROMs with extra RAM, the same happened - think the newer ROMs with extra RAM just can't handle a large number of SMSes.
You may not notice the slow down if the smses come in incrementally, but when I loaded all the smses at the same time the phone just obviously slowed down.
moooxooom said:
If you have Jeyo Mobile, you'll see that they create a folder called "conversations" under SMS..
Basically they dump a copy of the latest SMS there, and that'll be the sms on display at the start of the thread.
What I used to do is to delete the stuff in the conversations folder, delete the folder, back up.
After backing up WITHOUT the conversations folder, I'll restore.
Here's where the problem comes in...
Sometimes I restore in the conversation mode, sometimes I restore in the traditional mode. They work most times, but not all times. The conversation threads get rebuilt.
However recently (30 min ago) i just flashed a custom rom... and I realised that my method doesn't work anymore.. let me try try and I'll update again.
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Thank you for this tip, it worked a treat. All my text messages are back in place and conversations are in tact. great Job. Thanks