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Hi, I have noticed a problem and I was wondering if others could check if their phones do it or if I need a replacement.
When texting on the hardware keypad the response is rather slow, but more importantly it gets the keypresses out of order! Specifically, the order that I pressed the space key (0). If I text slowly this is not an issue, but if I blast away then I can consistently observe it make the same mistake. Here is my test:
In XT9 mode, start a new text message and type 'it going' really fast. This key sequence is 48046464
If I am texting fast, my Touch Dual will consistently enter 'hug mini', which is 48406464
Note that the space is one place too late.
This happens all the time with any other word combinations, and is worse when the device is stressed. I have no other running programs, I have not flashed from the stock Orange ROM, I have tried a hard reset and I AM typing correctly
Oh, a point of interest, if I train myself to type double spaces then it works, and only single spaces are written! Of course if I slow down though I see double spaces.
So, anyone else (preferably with the Orange ROM but all answers appreciated) have this problem?
I have exactly same problem. It is very, very annoying..
I don't have the Orange rom, I have original swedish rom, but I have the same problem. the most annoying thing is that I can't type as fast as a can, because of the delay.
i just tried this, no problem here. also, the space on mine is the # key.
im using toms rom also.
i typed it out really fast. there was a slight delay till the words showed up but it showed up as what it was supposed to.
have u tried the HTC Update?
There's been notices that that problem was fixed (or at least didn't happened so frequently)
I tried downloading it from HTC e-Club, but no difference.
The hotfix didn't help me, but I have made progress to solving this problem. It seems that the stock Orange ROM is just rubbish, I reflashed with a custom WM 6.1 ROM and it is much better. If I stress the device by doing lots of things at the same time then I can still make the error appear, but texting is actually bearable now when playing mp3s.
It's a shame I haven't uncovered the root cause of the problem. I refuse to believe it is in the Windows Mobile core so it must be something HTC have done to it. Do they have a different SMS composer or something?
For the first time of using Touch HD, I experiencing some freezes in the normal operation of my applications.
Explaing what I'm saying, when I'm using an applications sudendly it stops responding for 4-5 secs, or that happens even when I use the touch screen.
It is happening a few times and in no specific time intervals.
Does anyone knows anything about or face similar situation with me?
jolas said:
For the first time of using Touch HD, I experiencing some freezes in the normal operation of my applications.
Explaing what I'm saying, when I'm using an applications sudendly it stops responding for 4-5 secs, or that happens even when I use the touch screen.
It is happening a few times and in no specific time intervals.
Does anyone knows anything about or face similar situation with me?
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Wich "applications" are you talking about?
Because I use a lot of Resco Explorer, it is the firtst app that came in mind that I have seen the "freeze" problem.
Other times that I have seen is when I press the "X" to close an application.
I confirm this comportement with Resco Explorer: do you have installed cf3.5?
Yes, I have installed cf3.5
I get this in Opera and text messaging. Just becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. Is most annoying..
Noticed this as well, I don't think it is related to Resco Explorer, because it happened on my device when I was typing an email or sms and I don't have Resco Explorer installed. Not a big deal to me though, as long as I don't see it too often
That's the problem with new phones today, because of competition they are shipped with beta firmware. Then, a few months later, a new firmware is released and that's it because they are working on a new model.
(A good example is Touch Diamond)
What would you do if your car had a software bug that caused the engine to loose power a few seconds now and then?
Why should we be so forgiving because it's only a phone?
I'm tired of being an unpaid betatester
I have noticed this about 3 times just today whilst writing SMS. Very annoying indeed!
I've got the same problem. At random in Opera and in sms application. 2-3-4 seconds of... nothing!!!
The problem is that it came out after the first week... the first week never got stops.
Maybe, if we make a little list of programs we have on... soo too understand where the problem can be
I am not sure if it is an application related problem, because as I was trying to remember, I have the feeling that I have seen the problem even before install any kind of programs
Zakkosekk, I totally agree with you, when we have pay 700euro to buy a pocket pc, it has at least to be bugs free.
jolas said:
For the first time of using Touch HD, I experiencing some freezes in the normal operation of my applications.
Explaing what I'm saying, when I'm using an applications sudendly it stops responding for 4-5 secs, or that happens even when I use the touch screen.
It is happening a few times and in no specific time intervals.
Does anyone knows anything about or face similar situation with me?
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Yes, I have the same problem. Random freezing for a couple of seconds every once in awhile.
I also had this problem. After hard reset and reinstalling everything (incl. Resco), but without net cf 3.5 i do not have this problem anymore. looks like related to cf 3.5 ?
... Sorry, problem is still there
gerard69 said:
I also had this problem. After hard reset and reinstalling everything (incl. Resco), but without net cf 3.5 i do not have this problem anymore. looks like related to cf 3.5 ?
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Hmmm, interesting. I do have .net running, but it's required for some apps.
I only installed cf3.5 today, and had this issue before and after, I don't think it's the problem. It is almost like some background app is taking all the cpu for a bit?
Same problem to mine!
I think we should let HTC see this thread!
i dont think cf3.5 is the problem. i dont have it installed
but expirience the same problem while texting and opera. it's very annoying!
deixi
I sent an email in HTC's technical support, with the topic's address.
I have noticed this problem also. We can easily check is it software related, does someone want to do hard reset and check?
no need for a hard reset, mine is brand new & i have nothig installed on it! but i have the problem.
deix
Hey I am running the stock windows mobile 6.1 from sprint because I just got a replacement but I have always noticed that when i type a message, the letters always lag and it takes about 2 seconds for the phone to finally catch up. is there any solution for this problem out there because there was for the tilt but I tried that solution and it made things worse. any help would be appreciated.
I'd like an answer to that too.
That Makes Three Of Us And I Have To Say Its Pretty Darn Annoying!
From what I can tell this is just a problem with the hardware keyboard that has no fix (to the best of my knowledge)
actually not....
its not a problem with the hardware as it doesnt do this in the old 6.0 stock rom and when you hard reset then its normal and doesnt lag till a couple days later. I just flashed KAOS mogul rom from smartphonejunkie and it doesnt really do that at all. So there is something in the software definitely
I am about to download and install the new .48 ROM, but what excatly did they fix?
Are people sending and recieving all sms'es and calls now?
Are the buggy volume control fixed?
What about the big waiting time when launching the messenger app with people who have a long sms-history?
As far as i am aware absolutely no issues whatsoever have been "fixed".
This "new" ROM is simply the latest version being shipped in worldwide devices.
The weekly calendar issue seems to be fixed.
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I am about to download and install the new .48 ROM, but what excatly did they fix?
Are people sending and recieving all sms'es and calls now?
Are the buggy volume control fixed?
What about the big waiting time when launching the messenger app with people who have a long sms-history?
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I don't know what has been fixed and I can't comment on the problems you listed since I've never experienced them but I can tell you what works better for me:
1) the keyboard is much more accurate. I was reasonably happy with the keyboard on the last ROM but this one is much easier to use.
2) the proximity sensor now works every time I make or receive a call. This was a bit hit or miss for me with the last ROM and would fail more often than it worked.
3) Battery life seems much better. Again, I was pretty happy with this on the last ROM but it just seems to last a lot longer now. I had network issues today (nothing to do with the phone, it must have been a problem with 3 in London today because my 3G dongle was down as well) and was expecting my battery to die relatively quickly. However, despite this and the fact that I was playing with the phone more today (because of the new ROM) my battery is holding about 20% more than I would expect it to hold at this point in the day. I haven't bothered with the patch to turn off the data connection either so my phone should be doing more now.
I can't comment on much more. I experienced the new bug with the inbox and SenseUI but that was dealt with by locking the phone. I also had some trouble connecting to my Exchange server but that was dealt with with a couple of soft resets. Everything is generally going quite well.
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I am about to download and install the new .48 ROM, but what excatly did they fix?
Are people sending and recieving all sms'es and calls now?
Are the buggy volume control fixed?
What about the big waiting time when launching the messenger app with people who have a long sms-history?
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I have installed the new 1.48 rom today.
and I don't think they fixed anything. I still got a red blob on my pictures. And I still wait up to 45 seconds for replying sms. When the sms-history is long.!!!
I've installed it today as well (dutch version). A pity that you 've to reinstall all apps. No prob for me, as I'm still try to explore the phone.
Anyway connecting, installing etc everything was flawless, even the link with Exchange.
hmm,.. well,.. no issues so far
I've flashed the .48 over my belgian HD2 yesterday using the goldcard approach, I've got to say that I've yet to see any real improvement or bugfixes,...
The lockscreen acted up for a while but then mended itself automagicly and has been a good boy since.
Opera seems more responsive but that could very well be just me fooling myself.
Same goes for the keyboard, I caught myself noting 'hey, this seems a bit more sturdy than before'. This can all be attributed to perception, though
It works and the itch to be up to date has been scratched.. all in all I'd recommend it.
where do i get this rom, offical site please
Is this an official ROM?
Where can this be downloaded? How do you flash it?
Get the ROM from links in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592954
Just installed it and personally think the touch screen is more accurate
Eoinoc said:
Get the ROM from links in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592954
Just installed it and personally think the touch screen is more accurate
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Think or know, is it night & day better mate?
Hi
Can anyone tell me if they have kept all the software that was on 1.43, for example, ms office.
If someone can tell us what they have removed or added, that would be great.
parv1 said:
Hi
Can anyone tell me if they have kept all the software that was on 1.43, for example, ms office.
If someone can tell us what they have removed or added, that would be great.
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AFAIK they haven't added or removed any applications.
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Think or know, is it night & day better mate?
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I installed 1.48 last night and I think its night and day better than then old 1.43 rom.
Screen is less sensitive (which is good) because it makes the keyboard easier to use, less multiple key hits etc.. so you can actually type more accurately. I still get the odd moment where they keyboard appears to spaz out, but I think this is still down to accidentally breathing on the screen or looking at it in a funny way.. man that screen is so sensitive sometimes..
I also found that rotating and typing with both thumbs in landscape mode made for a very compelling typing experience because the keys are slightly larger and further apart which makes hitting multiple keys at the same time even harder to do.
Once you have used the device for a day or so (to build up its dictionary of words that you use alot) its becomes really very quick to rattle off very long texts.
Its still not quite perfect, but its a huge improvement over the previous rom.
First things first, HTC Desire Z, I am in New Zealand on the Vodafone network in case that makes a difference and running bog standard Sense UI with no mods or ROMs or anything like that.
I have done a search and can't find anything similar anywhere except some asian sites, and I suspect (but hope it isn't) because the phone came from Hong Kong.
Ok, last night an update came through to my phone with the above code, I have lodged a query with HTC but no response as yet and figured you guys may have a better/quicker fix.
Essentially since the update came through the phone has been very slow and glitchy... stalls on background screen before loading app buttons, widgets, menus everything.
So I guess I want to know A: is this a legit update or is it some sort of hack?
and B: can I revert somehow to the last/correct version or am I going to need to install a ROM and start from scratch?
I appreciate your help and if you need any more info just ask.
cheers
Tis legit. HTC seem to be rolling the update worldwide, but very slowly. My dad got it in the UK last Tuesday, I'm still waiting.
His phone seems to be ok. If you're still having problems, try hard reset?
Cheers dude, ok at least that is one less thing to worry about
might give a hard reset a go
I've heard that once you do a update its always good to do a factory reset its like a pc you'll need to give it a good cleaning some time LOL try that
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Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
hogg2500 said:
Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
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The canadian desire z is still at 1.34, afaik it hasn't had any updates at all
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Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
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You'll find that if its provided through a carrier, they'll handle the software updates after HTC issues them to ensure their "value added software" or "crap" is loaded on it.
Saying that, mine is a UK SIM free from HTC and I still haven't got the 1.8x.xxx.x update, I'm at 1.72
Heya, I also have the Desire Z, bought from Hong Kong, use on Vodafone, live in Wellington NZ, and also did the update this morning.
Haven't noticed my phone running any slower yet but keen to see the improvements touted though. So far just seen little UI cosmetic changes.
Be sure to go into accounts and redo your sync settings, it put stocks and weather back to real time sync on mine...turned them off straight away.
AHHHHH that could have something to do with the hanging issue. I did a hard reset and initially it seemed better but then once I had re-instated my backed up data, contacts etc, (especially after I shut off the HTC messaging app, and re-synched my google accounts for some reason) it started hanging again.
Maybe the stocks (which I have banished) is trying to sync in the background somewhere? *wanders off to see*
It is a good sign that it is working on other DZ's, main issue seems to be on keyboard open/close events... so might just be incompatiblility with an app I'm running... god I hope it isn't Handcent
Ok, update time, redone the sync settings, removed anything that has been added in the last week or so in case I just didn't notice (unlikely but ???) the hanging problem.
oefox are you using Handcent for your messaging or the standard messaging app? i have removed it and that seems to have made a slight improvement although only very slight... this is driving me mad... may have to try another hard reset tonight and rebuild the data only and start again with apps.
Fake edit: HTC got back to me "try soft reset, hard reset... sorry can't help as phone is HK build, we have passed your query to them... they will be in touch" We shall see?
Actual Edit: Also seems to be destroying battery life all of a sudden, and it seems to think it has been off the charger for 22 minutes... which is odd as it came off the car charger 5 hours ago... hmmm.. definite issues here... looks like an actual rebuild may have to happen :/
You could try an app like Watchdog Lite from the Android Market to see if there is a process gobbling up your CPU cycles? It may be the cause of what's slowing the phone and draining your battery...
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Thanks for that, I have installed Watchdog Lite, removed a couple of apps that I thought might be a little bit problematic and I will stop playing with it for the day and how the battery reacts to "normal" use i.e. not constantly setting/resetting loading/unloading/deleting/syncing/unsyncing stuff lol... still seems to hang and whatnot though but we shall see.
If that doesn't help I will try a fresh hard reset and build from scratch (not from backup) and see if that helps :/
Call me uninspiring but I really like the default email and messaging. I have found after playing with it for a couple of days now that it will sometimes hang for a couple of seconds when returning to the home screen, shows the background but no icons for a few seconds.
On the plus side my wifi seems to have improved stability somewhat.
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Call me uninspiring but I really like the default email and messaging. I have found after playing with it for a couple of days now that it will sometimes hang for a couple of seconds when returning to the home screen, shows the background but no icons for a few seconds.
On the plus side my wifi seems to have improved stability somewhat.
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I did upgrade the firmware, but I didnt notice any improvement.
I mean everything is just fine
I thought that it would upgrade it to Gingerbread and Sense 3.0
I would be nice to have that version
Cheers
I have an HK Desire Z as well, and have experienced the exact same problem since the system update. I have not tried a hard reset because I'd rather not spend the time, but the home screen "blank and reload" issue is quite aggravating. I may have no other choice but to reset.
I will try waiting a couple days to see if somebody posts an easier fix.
Aha if you have a G2 wait till T-mobile gives it to us... we will be getting gingerbread
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Ok, good to see it isn't just me, it is definitely an issue and the reset doesn't seem to help much so if you havn't already done it don't bother localhost21. however I think I have found the main culprit and it seems to be the Google Maps updates that are causing the majority of the hanging etc.
if you remove the updates, i.e. go back to the standard version that came on the phone and it seems to make quite a difference so try that.
Unfortunately as i use the navigation function on maps quite a bit I kinda need to keep it so a bit of a catch 22. If you don't really need it though that should solve most of the problem... if any other fixes arrive let me know
Hopefully vodafone NZ give us the Gingerbread upgrade, or google brings navigation out of beta because it really is very good.
Edit: Still hangs, I have become a habitual killer of tasks which is nearly as annoying as the hanging, esp. if you have to open the task manager after it has hung, and it seems the processes causing the hang won't stay dead (auto-killed etc) *goes hunting for basic, stable, rom*
I encountered a new problem in that my notification sounds seem to randomly choose what to play when I recieve sms/calls so I did a hard reset but I still have that issue.
It also still hangs on the home screen if the k/b is open so hard reset doesn't fix this problem so I want to try a new rom
Has anyone done a root/flash yet with a HK Z?
I have a HTC Desire Z on the 2Degrees Network. I'm running Android version 2.2.1 Build numner is 1.84.708.1 CL322105 can I get an upgrade? Vheers.
oefox said:
I encountered a new problem in that my notification sounds seem to randomly choose what to play when I recieve sms/calls so I did a hard reset but I still have that issue.
It also still hangs on the home screen if the k/b is open so hard reset doesn't fix this problem so I want to try a new rom
Has anyone done a root/flash yet with a HK Z?
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What do you mean? I have HK DZ.
I rooted it. But I had to downgrade it to ROM 1.34.xx.
As I understand, there is no way atm to root from ROM 1.84.xx