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ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?

seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal

FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)

It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.

I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.

GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore

Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH

ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?

Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm

Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen

GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!

cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal

The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack

strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh

ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.

great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
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I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?

You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.

Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

[RELEASE]HTC-BlueAngel 6.5 5.2.21176WWE2CX3.1 by sun_dream

Seems sun_dream found yet another build, hes saying is pretty fast, i cant wait till he releases it, heres the link to his blog post
edit:heres a mirror thx to homam_france

He has sent me a beta, which I will be testing sometime between today and tomorrow. I will post some feedback on this. Stay tuned!

I hope the shell won't distort the OK and X Buttons anymore

egzthunder1 said:
He has sent me a beta, which I will be testing sometime between today and tomorrow. I will post some feedback on this. Stay tuned!
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Great, I just installed Xplode's R3. But i want to try it too.
egzthunder1 can i test it too?

i better get my BA fix up ASAP, the hardware buttons are not so responsive, it seems I am going to be busy flashing

Well,
Day 1 after flashing sun_dream's latest. So far, very fast and stable. Here are the main points (in my opinion anyways)
*Titanium seems a lot more responsive than before (I still don't like it though )
*The removal of windows and menus animations make the device respond faster overall.
*Unbelievably responsive kinetic scrolling.
*The honeycomb is actually usable now!!
*Settings were put back into categories (Personal, System, Communications).
*Battery life seems good, no major drainage.
*"OK and X" bug fixed and working fine!!
*Wifi nice and steady (still need to test PIE8 and Iris Browser).
*Transparent Top bar looks awfully nice! (too bad the programs replace it with the Black bar)
Things I did notice were as follows:
*The Wifi icon seems to be getting cut off from the bottom down. In other words, you can only see half of the icon.
*Power in the Power Settings doesn't show a percentage anymore.
I still need to do some further testing (e-mail setup, etc), but overall this rom is superb!
Will report back later.
Good Job Sun!!!!!

he sent me a beta too but got a big problem...my cradle ain't working anymore!

red_hanks said:
he sent me a beta too but got a big problem...my cradle ain't working anymore!
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You can always use mtty and flash via SD.

hey Egz...I'd like to try that but I need my cradle so I need to go to a local phone store first thing tomorrow. I tried to fix the cradle myself but ended ruining it more so how is the 2117x build vs xplode's r3? 21169 x2 is so buggy so I flashed my BA back to wm6.1....

red_hanks said:
hey Egz...I'd like to try that but I need my cradle so I need to go to a local phone store first thing tomorrow. I tried to fix the cradle myself but ended ruining it more so how is the 2117x build vs xplode's r3? 21169 x2 is so buggy so I flashed my BA back to wm6.1....
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I havent' had a chance to test xplode's R3, but sun's is a very nice rom (so far anyways). I still have to test BT (headset and GPS).
One thing I did notice also, is that it seems that data transfer via AS is a lot faster than in previous builds... I guess M$ finally did something right
You can read the rest of my review in my previoius post. Good luck with your craddle situation

A little further testing...
*I purposely soft reset the device and it took approximately 1 minute to wake up completely and loading PointUI Home 2. So, it has a very fast wake up time!!
*I set up my g-mail account with no problem.
*I don't use SMS, so I cannot test that.
*Lock application seems a bit faster and more responsive than in older builds.
*PIE is a bit faster, but I still have other browsers that I like to use. I will test YouTube later (with both PIE and Iris).
Left to do...
*Test BT connection with headset, and GPS (Pharos BT receiver).
*Test IR/BT data transfer... (I have to find another BT and another IR enabled device to do this)
*Must finish going through the settings to ensure that they all work.
Will do more later...

ok seems like 2117x is a lot stable vs the older wm6.5 builds..waiting for your BT test result...

red_hanks said:
ok seems like 2117x is a lot stable vs the older wm6.5 builds..waiting for your BT test result...
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BT = Bluetooth?
if so, it's always a trouble-maker

i found strange issue with lockscreen, when you have locked your device and pressed power (entered standby) and recieve a call the answer lockscreen part does not show upon device resume, this bug does not happen when device is locked and not on standby - you may try the scenario yourself, i think that this bug is present in 21169 too (no matter sun or my roms)
tested various rom configurations, rebuilded about 20 times this rom, but this nasty bug stays

as of now I am very contented with wm6.1 v3.02 by sun_dream. I need to use my BA so I think I will just wait for a more stable build of wm6.5

Well, I tested (tried to pair really), my GPS receiver, but no dice... For some reason, the device either looses connection or just flat out does not recognize the pass-code. The BT headset, on the other hand hasn't given me too much trouble. It paired up nicely...
@xplode,
I'll give it a shot, but I don't normally use my BA as a phone (unless I am traveling)... which I will do on Monday, so I'll let you know then.
Still stable and no SR so far, except for one time when I was using wifi and my device went into power saving mode (turned off the screen) and afterwards, it would only have a black screen... had to SR there. I tried to recreate the situation on a few occasions with no luck... I guess it was a one time thing.
More reports to come..

well i had the same thing today, blackscreen - only fixed with hard reset
soft reset gets me back to the black screen

This appears to be a secret and private talks thread
Why are others kept in dark about the build 2117x? Once its disclosed that such a build exists, every one gets interested in trying it. If there is a reason for keeping it hidden from others for the time being, better use private messages. Just my two cents.

if we just talk about it, Microhell can't do something about it... now if we link to it here DIRECTLY, then xda-developers is in Trouble.

April 1 said:
This appears to be a secret and private talks thread
Why are others kept in dark about the build 2117x? Once its disclosed that such a build exists, every one gets interested in trying it. If there is a reason for keeping it hidden from others for the time being, better use private messages. Just my two cents.
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@April 1,
The reason is rather simple. If you release something that has bugs and things (something you would consider a pre-release), you will have an enormous amount of people asking the same questions over and over and over and over.... and over again (kinda like it is right now but worse).
It is a lot easier to develop something when the beta testers are finding all the minor things and not hitting themselves on the face with major bugs that might require hard resets and stuff.
We are not trying to keep anyone in the dark (that is why we are reviewing this build), but sun_dream will release it when he deems it is ready for public use. So far, he has not made mistakes (at least not many) in his ability to judge when a rom is suitable for release.
Just be patient... this should be out soon

These are my issues: I need to decide today when I return of keep the HD2 :(

Hello XDA Team,
Firstly, I want to say a huge thanks to the contributors of this forum as I've silently benefitted from your work over the past year on my previous phone, i900 Omina. Unsurprisingly I'm one of the many people who was tempted by the HD2 as it's effectively everything I always wished the Omnia would be - in principle.
So, I received my HD2 last Tuesday (direct from T-Mobile) and my number was ported from Vodafone on Thursday. After using the phone for a weekend I arranged an exchange as I believed my handset was faulty due to the crackling and resonating sounds from the earpeice. When I searched online I didn't find anyone with a similar complaint so I assumed mine was faulty. The replacement arrived on Tuesday and it's exactly the same, only this time the bottom row of buttons isn't a good a fit as on the first. Small issue that one and not really a deal breaker. A bit more searching and this time round I found the lists of post from people with the same sound quality complaints.
The issues I have with this phone are:
1) The crackling speaker - resonating to people's voices.
2) The SMS functionality, slow loading of messages and formatting bugs with the date stamp for one message overlapping the previous message in a thread, changing text size doesn't apply to every text in a thread.
3) The Contacts app freezes everytime I make a change to a contact, rendering the phone useless for about 30 seconds after each change. This includes when I add someone to the favourites list in Sense.
4)Random slow downs of Sense when hardly anything is running in the background (just Comm Manager)
5) The camera, even with the hotfix still has reddish/pinkish colouring to the middle of the picture
6) videos I recorded with the HD2 won't play on the HD2!!! Eh? What's going on there?????
Now I can accept software issues as I know these will be fixed eventually. My Omnia was a much better phone after a year of owning it than when it was first delivered almost solely down to ROM updates. However I am genuinely concerned that the speaker crackling is a hardware fault and not software, hence never going to improve.
Which brings me to my dilemma. I bought this phone from T-Mobile, which means I have a 7 working day period to return the phone and cancel my contract with no penalty. Today is the last day of that period, so I need to decide today whether to return the phone or to percevere.
I'll add a bit of balance to the dilemma by listing the things I love about the phone, which ultimately are the reasons which I would want to keep it if the issues could be fixed:
1) The screen the screen the screen!!!!!
2) Facebook integration with contacts
3) Great web browsing
4) Good music player & 3.5mm headphone jack
5) 3G, HSDPA and WiFi
6) WinMo so easy to sync with work Outlook and keep my Omnia contacts and SMS history.
7) Slim design, easy to pocket.
There you go, I have until the end of today to make my decision. I honestly don't know what I would replace the HD2 with IF I do decide to return it for good but 18 months if a long time to be using a phone which is supposed to be state of the art but stuggles with some of the fundamental jobs of a mobile phone.
Thanks for your time
DC.

Send it back.
I've had one now for over a month and it's great.
I don't have any of the problems you have.
I did have a slight pink tinge when I focussed at close range on a white sheet. But with the recent hotfix that is much improved. Anyway, I don't often photo white sheets !
I also don't video at all so tried your problem and I can confirm it's super simple to video and then playback (it's offered as an option after the recording is stopped).
I would send it back and ask for a new one and insist on an updated ROM.

Cheesy Dave said:
I've had one now for over a month and it's great.
I don't have any of the problems you have.
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Same here. Sounds like you've just been unlucky and got a bad one, like some others have reported on xda.
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I would send it back and ask for a new one and insist on an updated ROM.
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I agree with sending it back as faulty. Say you want another two weeks (or however long it is) with the new one as this one has been so faulty you need to re-evaulate when you get the new one whether you want it or not.
As for insisting on an updated ROM, don't even think about saying that to your phone provider. None of them have updated ROMs yet, and probably won't for a long time. They're likely to wait until the majority of bugs are ironed out before going through the lengthy process of "updating" a ROM for their customers. Seriously - just ignore that advice. (No offense meant, Cheesy Dave)

DavidC1980 said:
Hello XDA Team,
Thanks for your time
DC.
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Hi
Instead of writing here your complaints you should have read some of the threads explaining your problems. I advice you to backup your data then hard reset your device and reinstall your programs one by one and eliminate the program which is eating your HD2's memory. At least half of your problem will be gone after hard reset.
i am using HD2 for a month now and resolved 90% problems came with it.
Good Luck

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Seriously - just ignore that advice. (No offense meant, Cheesy Dave)
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None taken !
Probably if you spoke to the local phone rep and said "ROM" they would be most confused !

Cheesy Dave said:
None taken !
Probably if you spoke to the local phone rep and said "ROM" they would be most confused !
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I'm sure they'd advise you on a massive 32MB ROM SD card that you could put in and store all your music and video on.

sabes143 said:
Hi
Instead of writing here your complaints you should have read some of the threads explaining your problems. I advice you to backup your data then hard reset your device and reinstall your programs one by one and eliminate the program which is eating your HD2's memory. At least half of your problem will be gone after hard reset.
i am using HD2 for a month now and resolved 90% problems came with it.
Good Luck
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Oh I've been reading the threads here non stop and have hard reset the phone three times since receiving it. The only programs I've installed are BSB tweaks and the YouTube app which T-Mobile has removed. Otherwise it's untouched.
My main issue is the crackling speaker, which if you read my post you'd see that I'm happy to wait to sort all the software issues out over time, but hardware issues are different.
My problem is that T-mobile will not do another exchange. They will only give me one chance to exchange then it's either cancel or keep. As I'm on my 2nd handset already, it means I have to make that decision today.
I know some of you hate to see posts from people who are considering ditching their HD2, but that's the reality. We exist. I'm an existing WinMo user too, not even one of the iphone brigade.

I can imagine the issues you're having are annoying and I must admit I've also experienced some of them.
1) Crackling: not a problem for me. I use a bluetooth headset (plus I'm a a bit deaf anyway) so I don't notice any crackling. Have you tried a headset? Any headset? Does it still occur or is the problem only from the external speaker and earpiece? I know others have complained about the volume but thought it was fixed in a newer ROM
2) Messages loading: yes, a real pain. Have you tried the workaround which is to click "Send" as soon as the messages start loading, then click "No" when prompted to send an empty message?
3) Contacts: I haven't had this problem, but then I haven't added users to any groups as they were already set up on my X1.
4) Random Slowdowns: yes, I must admit, this happens to me from time to time. Although you might think that nothing is running there are some processes that aren't visible by default that may be consuming the CPU's time.
I've been using Leo ROMs for quite a while now and if you think it's bad on the HD2 you should've tried it on the X1 to really appreciate the speed and stability of the Leo. OK, perhaps not an acceptable answer for you but some things you just have to put up with and blame not on the phone but the underlying OS (yes, Windows!!)
5) Camera: I've noticed the pink tint too even after installing the hotfix. Annoying, to say the least!
6) Camcorder playback: Works for me!!

The camcorder issue must be 1.43 T-Mob rom related. This new handset has the same problem as the 1st one. It will record video, but won't playback.
I also have annoying freezing when I try to do the simplest of tasks, like emptying the deleted messages folder in the SMS app, to the point where the back cover comes off and the reset button has to be pressed.
BUT, when it works properly I love this phone. I guess if I keep it I'll be flashing new ROMs like there's no tomorrow. Obviously I haven't done that yet as I can't risk breaking the warranty on a phone which I may return.

Get it on O2 and apply the hotfixes... seems to be the better rom

Sod it, I'm keeping the phone. There's nothing else on the market that interests me, and no reason to think that the hardware on the upcoming Nexus will be any better if it's also an HTC handset.
I've got an SD card primed with Goldcard and 1.61.....I'm not gonna take the plunge just yet, but I've read some of the positive feedback on the newer ROMs. Once I've given up on T-Mobile releasing a newer ROM, then I'll get flashing.

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.....Sod it, I'm keeping the phone. There's nothing else on the market that interests me,.
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Good decision chap. Just take the time to apply the fixes and you should be there.
Cheers
WB

It wouldn't surprise me if HTC haven't already got their sights on another ROM which has all hotfixes plus the one they are working on for the SMS fix that doesn't work, a hotfix to fix a hotfix lol.
Eventually they could even release android for it, why not? the hardware is what is keeping me glued to my phone, its ace. they owe it to us!

If it's O2 then you do get leeway (or used to) with regards to what you report as bugs and what they'll do or at least they used to.
When HTC Universal came out that was riddled with bugs and even the phone app didn't work properly (nearly put me off winmo phones for life, HD2 has been my first since) so anyway I called up after the 7 days said look I love the phone but these bugs are killing me. So they sent me another one which I tried and found the same bugs with, so they let me get a different model instead, and this was WAAAAY outside the usual 7 days because the phone was faulty. The 7 day rule is really there for if you get it and you just don't like it, not because it has issues, if it has issues then different more lenient policies apply.
My suggestion would be do the same tell them about the crackling etc and other bugs and get them to send you another, if it's still got the same issues then you've still got the option to swap.
Also without going into too much detail take your time sending yours back, you might find they'll let you keep hold of it for longer then you'd think

Way 2 solve all HD2 Problems !

It's been over 6 months with my HD2 and this period was plagued by numerous problems.The essential function of any mobile is to make phone calls and sadly this was the area most affected.Many times my phone will drop calls,mute itself,freeze screen,make it impossible to answer a call and to disconnect a call because of frozen slider etc...etc...to name a few...
But i have solved all these now and my phones call functions work flawlessly.
How?I removed all tweaks and customizations by Factory Reset and Memory Card formatting!!
After that i installed only the software's i absolutely require,one at a time,watching out for problems.In fact i have just 4-5 customizations in my HD2 now...and i am happy.

Haven't had any of your problems with my HD2 and have installed loads of customizations, apps and ROMs.
What a usesless thread...

going to say, i've had zero problems with my HD2, i bought it 2nd hand, and i've tweaked it to with an inch of its life! I have a good few apps installed aswell. This phone seems to get alot of unnecessary bad press at times and i'm sure most of which is user error...no disrespect intended there though mate.

de Wolfe said:
Haven't had any of your problems with my HD2 and have installed loads of customizations, apps and ROMs.
What a usesless thread...
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Yes, I have to agree with you too - I've got plenty of customizations, and very rarely get any problems !

I have countless number of tweaks but only a hand full of apps that I actually need.
Never had an issue.
Make sure you put system tweaks and mods on the internal mem. Won't have a problem after that.

I've got 30+ apps (only one of which is a game), countless reg edits, Resco Contact Manager which totally takes over calls and dialing, as well as contacts, which you would think could potentially be quite problematic and I've never had an issue with stability.
I've never understood the stability issue thing, just stay away from stock ROMs and you'll be laughing.

Kalavere said:
I've got 30+ apps (only one of which is a game), countless reg edits, Resco Contact Manager which totally takes over calls and dialing, as well as contacts, which you would think could potentially be quite problematic and I've never had an issue with stability.
I've never understood the stability issue thing, just stay away from stock ROMs and you'll be laughing.
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I'm on a stock ROM and I'm still laughing. It runs for 2 days on battery, no lockups, has all the stuff I need installed, and many many tweaks.

I bought a patio set a week after I bought my HD2, it didnt work until I erected it, now it works a treat.

the only way to solve all (err....do you have any???) your problems of hd2 is :
this link

pakure said:
the only way to solve all (err....do you have any???) your problems of hd2 is :
this link
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that thing works wonders for me whenever I have a problem!
which isn't very often

I have stock ROM and plenty of tweaks and apps and I haven't faced any problems till now. really stable. I remember way back I was using htc touch with slower processor and wm 6.1 and I faced a lot of problems that Op described.

wow...overwhelming response...
I stand corrected because this problem came up again today morning:When a call came in and I slide to answer, the slider got stuck to "answer" while the phone continued to ring(without sound).The entire screen froze and I had to wait till the call got disconnected to use it again.
I was thinking this problem had disappeared after i removed all tweaks but there it is again.
I have searched the length n breadth of this forum and google too but without a solution..
Help me friends please....

You tried task 29?
You hard reset after installing rom?

you use cht lockscreen , dont you?

2 words:
Custom ROMs

ATHiEST said:
You tried task 29?
You hard reset after installing rom?
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No i havent.lemme chek.But wat does it(task 29) do?
I hard reset after CHT 1.7 paralysed the phone.
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you use cht lockscreen , dont you?
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No,i,ve uninstalled CHT as i mentioned earlier.
nrfitchett4 said:
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Custom ROMs
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u mean i have 2 use a Custom ROM?

crash_194 said:
going to say, i've had zero problems with my HD2, i bought it 2nd hand, and i've tweaked it to with an inch of its life! I have a good few apps installed aswell. This phone seems to get alot of unnecessary bad press at times and i'm sure most of which is user error...no disrespect intended there though mate.
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Same applyes to me,most of the PDAs Ive used were much worst than my HD2 including My Iphone.this thing can function same as a computer + few other things, so must expect few slight glitches.

So any solutions for the problem friends?
1.)When a call came in and I slide to answer, the slider got stuck to "answer" while the phone continued to ring(without sound).The entire screen froze and I had to wait till the call got disconnected to use it again.
2)Also when I do answer,after around 40 seconds,i cannot hear the person at the other end.The calls stays active till i end it.The other person can hear me but.This happen with random calls and in both incomin n outgoin.
I was thinking all the tweaks were messing up with the call function...but...
UPDATE:I got reply from htc to install System Update from website today.But wen i try 2 do that,Invalid Vendor ID error message is coming and the update aborts itself.
All problems solved after i updated my ROM to 1.66 ! thank u everyone

T-Mobile Releasing 2nd ROM Update for HD2

I was on the phone with T-Mobile Support (611), regarding my HD2 and the issues that I am still having with this device. The rep. stated that T-Mobile is aware of the issues on the phone and that the 1st ROM update did not resolve them all and caused some new ones.
She stated specifically this new update would resolve the issue of the device hanging after you try to wake up the phone...also, the "unreliable data connection" issue is still prevalent (I still have this problem - and I have tried everything I can think of or read about). She stated that there are other fixes that they are working on to resolve with this new update.
I could not get a solid time frame, but she stated that it should be pretty quick, given that they issued the first one within a short time frame after the HD2 release.
Now, I'm not sure if this means an upgrade from 6.5 to 6.5.3, but I wouldn't count on it. I just hope it is released soon. This device is so nice and so awful at the same time. Constantly I experience little nagging issues that make using this device such a hassle.

Have you tried just flashing it to one of these custom ROMs?

No I have not yet tried the custom ROM yet on the HD2. I like the way the T-Mobile ROM are, I just am getting fed up with the "unreliable data connection" BS. Also, the phone (since the ROM update) has been running slow and I don't think that is acceptable with the 1GHz snapdragon on this device. My only other issue is that the speaker phone stops working because T-Mobile added some stupid software to the device. If you dial 611, the software pops up and tries to solve your problem via webpage and stops the speaker phone from working till you restart the device.
While that is a short list of issues, they are major issues in using the device. But I think i will wait till this 2nd update comes out...if it does not resolve my issues, custom ROM here I come!

I belive flashing NRG will solve your issues It did mine.

Which issue did it solve? The data connection issue?

Data and freezing as well not to mention the phone just flies now. flashing a new radio fixed reception issue

well I will give it a try and see if it resolves my issues as well. I figure we have about a month or so before T-mobile releases the 2nd update. I know I will not be able to last that long with these issues. It is just a pain in the a-- to flash ROMs every day...I'm not into doing it all the time. I would like to find a good stable ROM and run with it. It just takes too much time flashing and reinstalling all those programs and changing the settings to where I like them all (too much work).
Like I said it is a shame, i really like this device on paper, but in the real world is just has some serious issues. I thought i would get a year or two out of this device when i bought it, now I am already looking to swap this puppy out. I'm looking to see what is coming down the pipeline. I refuse to go with WP7 (feels like the step backwards with it limitations as compared to WM6.5 - and i don't want a device that clones the iPhone of 4 years ago)
Anyone other suggestion on custom ROMs?

NRG 21911 is very solid and you don't have to flash everyday it has xda uc and pim backup witch will back up and reinstall all your software I did it yesterday in about 20 min. I refrain from flashing during the week. the the first time it will take about an hour just read all you can on it. 670megs free space on device 13gigs on sd and 300 megs of free RAM

I'm downloading the 23121 Cookie Dinik Glass version right now...I'll let you know how it works on my device. thanks for pointing me in this direction, appreciate it!

tmobile rep told me the same thing after I had a warranty exchange, she said to expect the update soon as there are alot of people experiencing problems with the current software. Although to be honest after running Android on my HD2 I dont think I ever want to use winmo again.

are you getting everything to work with Android? i did not think they have a fully functional Android ROM for the HD2 yet

They're all the same...
My biggest complaint is the bad data connection. Paying too much money for crappy connection. I can't even get connection in my lower level of my house. I think every carrier and cell phones all have their own problems. My two co-workers, one with Droid and the other iPhone have similar problems. Droid keeps freezing 2 warranty phone exchanges so far and iPhone looses connection frequently. iPhone guy wishes his would freeze so he could get a replacement. So it's not just me.

Help me please
So i tried to install android, and on gthe web it said i needed to install hpsl well my phone had it set to 2.10 they stated i needed 2.08 or earlier so i did it but the install still didn't work !!! How can i return my phone back to 2.10 and still get my warranty back

android fo real?
cabrone said:
tmobile rep told me the same thing after I had a warranty exchange, she said to expect the update soon as there are alot of people experiencing problems with the current software. Although to be honest after running Android on my HD2 I dont think I ever want to use winmo again.
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i read on pocetnow that android is being worked on on xda. seen a couple of post too, but there is always some component not really working. is there an official android post where all the kinks are worked out? i would like to switch if thats the case. thanks.

Wow is all I can say about that NRG ROM....it is great! does everything I have been looking for, no data connection issues since last night (I'll report back on this issue as time goes by). It's fast and very stable (so far, but hell I'm impressed), and I did not even use most stable version the 21911.
The UI is great, I love the three pages of app slot, everything is within one or two finger stokes this way. It also gets rid of the apps that I don't want (ie TelNav, etc...) but keeps most of the apps that I do want...I can always install cabs for the programs I want from the official ROM. Plus it has cooked into it all those sweet tweaks and settings. Great work, I'm not even waiting for T-mobile to release the 2nd update any longer.
Thanks gtrplr71 again for suggesting this custom ROM, it's so nice, I don’t even think I will be trying out any other ROMs.

I would not get hopes up of a 6.5.3 upgrade. Could you imagine the Technical support nightmare if they had to troubleshoot 2 different OS versions?
This is one reason I think Android and Linux will really take off in the future.

steve austin said:
i read on pocetnow that android is being worked on on xda. seen a couple of post too, but there is always some component not really working. is there an official android post where all the kinks are worked out? i would like to switch if thats the case. thanks.
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There's a HD2 Android section in the original HD2 area (euro hd2 section).... but it is a work in progress. There are still a lot of issues and kinks. It will be a while before it works as well as a native android phone. But the progress they've made is unbelievable. It's great having both winmo and android on my phone.

jfarhat said:
Wow is all I can say about that NRG ROM....it is great! does everything I have been looking for, no data connection issues since last night (I'll report back on this issue as time goes by). It's fast and very stable (so far, but hell I'm impressed), and I did not even use most stable version the 21911.
The UI is great, I love the three pages of app slot, everything is within one or two finger stokes this way. It also gets rid of the apps that I don't want (ie TelNav, etc...) but keeps most of the apps that I do want...I can always install cabs for the programs I want from the official ROM. Plus it has cooked into it all those sweet tweaks and settings. Great work, I'm not even waiting for T-mobile to release the 2nd update any longer.
Thanks gtrplr71 again for suggesting this custom ROM, it's so nice, I don’t even think I will be trying out any other ROMs.
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your welcome don't forget to make a backup with pim backup to your sd card and use xda uc once you get things settled. Have fun!

how does the xda uc work? i could not figure that out, when I ran the app it stated that i did not have that file on my storage card...but it appeared there somehow.
Also, the incall record does not seem to work at all. when i lauch it (after I connect or before I connect a call) all I get is a blank lined page (note pad page).
And, is there a list of the added and removed apps somewhere? I could not find it in the ROM thread.
As for the 6.5.3 upgrade from T-Mobile, i don't think it will happen either and right now, after trying the NRG ROM...I don't care. I'm not even going to try the T-mobile 2nd ROM upgrade. Now with Android comes along on the HD2 (fully functional) then i will surely set up a dual boot situation on my HD2. That is like the best of both world.

(xda uc)-you wont notice anything different It will run and monitor the phone for new settings when you decide to flash a new build it will auto run and import settings and apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653563 (stock apps) I am not familer with in-call record is that an app? this link might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588644
tip = turn off second hand on clock in CHT misc settings sync errors happen if you dont
You can PM me if you need more help!