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Automated device/screen lock

I noticed there is device lock on today screen, however is there any tweak of the registry that can automatically enable device lock when the Tytn is powered off either timeout or by pressing the power button (besides using third party like mortsaver etc, behave like a nokia phone). Comments and help is very much appreciated. Thanks.

The way I do it is from Start-Settings-Lock. Check the box and set the time for zero minutes. When I press the power button, the device will lock right away. Otherwise it will lock by itself in a minute or two.
Hope that helps.

yvrRome said:
The way I do it is from Start-Settings-Lock. Check the box and set the time for zero minutes. When I press the power button, the device will lock right away. Otherwise it will lock by itself in a minute or two.
Hope that helps.
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i like to have the today screen remains on, but screen locked let says 1 minute idle. The Start-Settings-Lock required password to unlock it and i found it troublesome while driving
Thanks.

Hmmm, can't help with that one... still new to PPC. But here's a free bump.

how about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261277

JR_de said:
how about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261277
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Hi JR_de,
Thanks for the pointer, both threads you pointed to me work well on the Tytn, THANKS !

[REQ] Diamond Lock

To all good developers out there.
I (we) need a DeviceLock Application for the Touch Diamond cause existing lock APPs are to buggy for the Diamond. One is extremly draining the battery and dont lock all hardware keys another one lock all keys but slows down the device that the incoming call is not shown.
I am searching for a simple application that locks the device after I press the power button and unlock it by a slide to right on the TouchScreen. Same if a call is incoming.
Not more!!! A simple lock without additional features. Is there a way that anyone can develop this?????

What about the standard device lock that comes with WM?
You can also activate a today plugin for it, so on your today screen you press on the lock and your device is locked and the screen light is dimmed down and after some more time shut off.
Or you press the power button, then the device is locked and the screen light is immediately shut off.
To unlock you only need to press two buttons on the screen.
To unlock you can also press the power button to turn on the device and then pull out the stylus, no need to press the screen because with these two actions the device is also unlocked.
What's wrong about the standard WM device lock?

standard WM device lock is stupid! it is very difficult to unlock device in daylight. Gray button on gray background and dim backlight... what can be worst?
If anyone know how to change colors in that screen - it would be great!

pathologo said:
What about the standard device lock that comes with WM?
You can also activate a today plugin for it, so on your today screen you press on the lock and your device is locked and the screen light is dimmed down and after some more time shut off.
Or you press the power button, then the device is locked and the screen light is immediately shut off.
To unlock you only need to press two buttons on the screen.
To unlock you can also press the power button to turn on the device and then pull out the stylus, no need to press the screen because with these two actions the device is also unlocked.
What's wrong about the standard WM device lock?
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You now that the internal Device Lock not work if you get a call???

Alexx_B said:
it is very difficult to unlock device in daylight. Gray button on gray background and dim backlight... what can be worst?
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That's true! I forgot that, although I encountered that myself today.

Alexx_B said:
it is very difficult to unlock device in daylight. Gray button on gray background and dim backlight... what can be worst?
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That's true! I forgot that, although I encountered that myself today.
Atze001 said:
You now that the internal Device Lock not work if you get a call???
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Ok, that's a point. The screen is unlocked and things could happen unintentionally.

There is a thread about this, with some idea, but I think there is no good solution yet for this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414731

try this
Hi all
have you try Throttlelocker ?
i have install on my Diamond and it run good. light version, no battery problem, skinnable........
i think can be a good compromise.
main point: Throttlelocker can totally lock the device.
problem: you need to turn device in suspend mode manually. since now i have not found a way to use it under the backlight.
ciao

I personally use S2U2, it works perfectly on the Diamond and is fairly easy to unlock. The Slide 2 Answer feature is pretty good too - stopps you accidentally answering calls.

poedgirl said:
I personally use S2U2, it works perfectly on the Diamond and is fairly easy to unlock. The Slide 2 Answer feature is pretty good too - stopps you accidentally answering calls.
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Which version did you use? I tested the 3 last versions and have extrem battery drain and the "home"-key is not locked.

giangishanghai said:
Hi all
have you try Throttlelocker ?
i have install on my Diamond and it run good. light version, no battery problem, skinnable........
i think can be a good compromise.
main point: Throttlelocker can totally lock the device.
problem: you need to turn device in suspend mode manually. since now i have not found a way to use it under the backlight.
ciao
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Did throttlelocker lock the phone on incoming calls?

Atze001 said:
Did throttlelocker lock the phone on incoming calls?
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when a call is coming you ll see the wm incoming call screen, if you dont reply phone turn to lock.
ciao

Atze001 said:
Which version did you use? I tested the 3 last versions and have extrem battery drain and the "home"-key is not locked.
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infact on Diamond S2U2 dont lock the home button, and battery slow down very very fast, expecially last version.
with S2U2 battery life is less than one day (medium device usage)
with Throttlelocker battery life is more than 2 days (medium usage too)
due to the fact that diamond have little (big!) batteryproblem, for me better to use Throttlelocker.
ciao
here is mine........

giangishanghai said:
when a call is coming you ll see the wm incoming call screen, if you dont reply phone turn to lock.
ciao
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And that is the problem. At work I carry my phone in my pocket and if I get a call and dont recognize them my phone answer the call. That is the reason I want a lock software that locks on calls although.

Atze001 said:
And that is the problem. At work I carry my phone in my pocket and if I get a call and dont recognize them my phone answer the call. That is the reason I want a lock software that locks on calls although.
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maybe i have not got your meaning.........what means "my phone answer the call" ?
by the way i have not this problem.
hope you can solve yours!!!!!!
ciao

I use this which I think is simply put the best autolock for windows mobile. Customizable actions, my advice, keep it simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451&highlight=autolock

giangishanghai said:
maybe i have not got your meaning.........what means "my phone answer the call" ?
by the way i have not this problem.
hope you can solve yours!!!!!!
ciao
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I mean if my phone is in my pants pocket and I got an incoming call and dont notice that. Then it often happend that I touch the phone or if I pull it out of the pocket I touch on the red button.

zmob123 said:
I use this which I think is simply put the best autolock for windows mobile. Customizable actions, my advice, keep it simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451&highlight=autolock
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I know this but it doesn´t run without errors on Touch Diamond. See my post in this thread.

[APP] SensorLock
Hi Atze001,
try to have a look at Sensor lock, (Themes, Applications and Software , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871).
maybe this app. can solve your problem.
ciao

I haven't noticed any battery problems when using S2U2 on my diamond. Every time I put my phone down, i invoke S2U2 (I have it mapped to the long press call button - never automatically, maybe this has something to do with it).
I can normally go about 3-4 days on a single charge while S2U2 is running when I'm not using it.
The version I'm using is 1.18, but I'm going to update it soon.

Locking the HD

Hi all,
I have decided to uninstall S2U2 and I don't want any other locking applications. However, is there is a way I can have the standard device lock activated with a short press of the power button?
Currently I am having to hold the 'End call' button until it locks, then turn the screen off with the power button.
Thanks

I have a pin setup and use the short press of the power button to put the phone into powersave 0 whixh then outs the phone into pin lock after a short while

If you push the hang off button for more than 10seconds, it will be locked

No...
FetchBLN said:
If you push the hang off button for more than 10seconds, it will be locked
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I don't know about your device...
On my HD you can press the end button and count until 3, and the device is locked

I can't remember whether it's in HD Tweak or Advanced Config, but there's an option to automatically lock the keypad on screen turning off (both timed out or power button press I assume, but not tested) so you could try that?
Edit: instead of being lazy I actually looked it up - it's in HD Tweak, option 4.1; Lock -> AutoLock
Just tried it and it works, turn backlight off by short power press and it's locked a well as screen turning off!

Good tip: works for me!
By the way: you can configure what happens when you pres the "disconnect" button too.

Guys
Thanks for this thread. I am very confused when it comes to locking the phone. Can anyone tell me...
Does the built in device lock work well? Will it keep the phone locked when a call comes in ?
If so, then why do people use S2U2 or other third party apps? Also some people say that S2U2 drains the battery. Is this true? How does it drain the battery?

The HD tweak had the disadvantage that when the screen turns in 'shaded' state the device is also locked.
Then when unlocking the device the screen stays 'shaded'.

avimak said:
I don't know about your device...
On my HD you can press the end button and count until 3, and the device is locked
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Maybe it takes you 10 seconds to count to 3.

I've finally got there with locking my HD... I had a S710 before the HD, and I liked the fact that on that I could hold down the "end call" button, and that it would lock the phone and turn the backlight off. The screen would then turn off completely after whatever time I had entered (2 mins I think). And on unlocking the device the backlight would turn on.
On my HD I have now disabled the device password, but enabled my PIN request, so that it secures the phone if it has been turned off completely. This means that I can now hold down the "end call" button for 3 seconds or so and it locks the device (requiring a 2-tap process to unlock, like the S710). I have also used the standard windows mobile settings (power) to have the backlight automatically turnoff after 30 seconds, and have used HD Tweak (setting 4.1) to autolock the device when the backlight turnsoff. The only problem is that when AutoLock happens using HDTweak, when I unlock it the backlight fails to turn back on, even once I have started using the screen. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Dave

chaosdefinesorder said:
I can't remember whether it's in HD Tweak or Advanced Config, but there's an option to automatically lock the keypad on screen turning off (both timed out or power button press I assume, but not tested) so you could try that?
Edit: instead of being lazy I actually looked it up - it's in HD Tweak, option 4.1; Lock -> AutoLock
Just tried it and it works, turn backlight off by short power press and it's locked a well as screen turning off!
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Just to confirm my above question regarding this specific feature of HD Tweak... I have got this working on my HD now too, but when it autolocks, and I unlock it, the backlight doesn't turn back on, and the only way to make it turn back on is to hardbutton off and on the device (not power-off, just press the button the top of the phone and press it again).
This is stopping me from using the HD Tweak autolock now, which is annoying because it does precisely what I need! Can anyone offer any advice?
I've just realised that it actually says within HD Tweak itself (on 4.1 option selector) that this is a known issue... any idea on if and when it will get fixed?

How about using Gyrator to lock the device? I have set it to lock the device and switch off the screen on inserting the stylus. Also, I have it set to unlock and switch the PDA on when the stylus in removed.
Simple. Works for me, anyway!

james00000007 said:
I have a pin setup and use the short press of the power button to put the phone into powersave 0 whixh then outs the phone into pin lock after a short while
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Hi,
Is this similar to an application my friend had on his iphone. Basically, when he needs to use the phone, he needs to put in a pin to unlock. I think the Nokia E61 has a similar feature.

nikki-m said:
How about using Gyrator to lock the device? I have set it to lock the device and switch off the screen on inserting the stylus. Also, I have it set to unlock and switch the PDA on when the stylus in removed.
Simple. Works for me, anyway!
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Can u let us know how to u set it?

nikki-m said:
How about using Gyrator to lock the device? I have set it to lock the device and switch off the screen on inserting the stylus. Also, I have it set to unlock and switch the PDA on when the stylus in removed.
Simple. Works for me, anyway!
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i hav a qns, at the locked screen, when u rotate ur device, does the screen rotate as well???
i had tis problem whn using gyrator to lock, whn its lock at home screen, the screen wil rotate if i rotate my device. how to disable that???

davehodgkinson said:
Just to confirm my above question regarding this specific feature of HD Tweak... I have got this working on my HD now too, but when it autolocks, and I unlock it, the backlight doesn't turn back on, and the only way to make it turn back on is to hardbutton off and on the device (not power-off, just press the button the top of the phone and press it again).
This is stopping me from using the HD Tweak autolock now, which is annoying because it does precisely what I need! Can anyone offer any advice?
I've just realised that it actually says within HD Tweak itself (on 4.1 option selector) that this is a known issue... any idea on if and when it will get fixed?
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Mhh, I also think it's very annoying. I first used the auto lock feature by setting
HKey_CURRENT_USER/ControlPanel/BackLight/AutoDeviceLockEnable = 1, but I also have the backlight-issue, which is really annoying.
I also installed S2U2, but after installing that program the battery-life was inacceptable. By now I'm using the manual method, pressing hang-up for 3 seconds. It works, but I often forget it, and it then happens easily that I press the hard-button which awakes the phone from standby and I make pocket-calls.
The auto-lock feature is also exactly the thing I need, except the fact that I get the backlight issue then. Does anybody know how to fix the backlight issue? Maybe by editing another key in the registry?
Regards,
Tobi

As I said in the hint topic, in order to lock my device I just press the power off button (this activate the stand by), simple and fast

I use S2U2 at first, but it drains power too much, so I uninstall it after 2 days.
Then I use your method - hold the end call button to lock the device.
Now, I change the right softkey to invoke a small application that will turn off the machine (just like press power button). When I take out the stylus, the machine will on again.
Thus, I don't need to press any button, and I feel it is better......personally.......

stm2008 said:
I use S2U2 at first, but it drains power too much, so I uninstall it after 2 days.
Then I use your method - hold the end call button to lock the device.
Now, I change the right softkey to invoke a small application that will turn off the machine (just like press power button). When I take out the stylus, the machine will on again.
Thus, I don't need to press any button, and I feel it is better......personally.......
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which application are you using now to turn off the screen? sounds interesting.

Tyrion84 said:
As I said in the hint topic, in order to lock my device I just press the power off button (this activate the stand by), simple and fast
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Yes, but when I activate standby and put the phone into my pocket, I often accidently hit the button again, which reactivates the phone. hit_one_button_to_unlock ist not tobi-proof

Too easy to call by mistake

Only real issue I have with this phone is that it is real easy to dial out accidentally.
Many times when putting the phone back in it's pouch or into my pocket I set the thing ringing.
I tried disabling the green phone button with AE buttonplus but if i'm on the contacts page and touch the green button it still rings.
An body have any idea how to disable the green button other than AE button plus (mentioned in another thread) or have any thoughts on a solution?
Cheers
Toggs

Toggs said:
Only real issue I have with this phone is that it is real easy to dial out accidentally.
Many times when putting the phone back in it's pouch or into my pocket I set the thing ringing.
I tried disabling the green phone button with AE buttonplus but if i'm on the contacts page and touch the green button it still rings.
An body have any idea how to disable the green button other than AE button plus (mentioned in another thread) or have any thoughts on a solution?
Cheers
Toggs
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Using S2U2 will prevent you from call accidentally, or as we call it: a pocketcall.

Thanks for the reply but the problem with S2U2 is it only works after it's activated by the timeout - before it locks the buttons are still active. But even with general handling of the phone it's just too easy to hit the call button especially when you mean to hit the left softkey.
I'll remember "pocketcall" tho...

Toggs said:
Thanks for the reply but the problem with S2U2 is it only works after it's activated by the timeout - before it locks the buttons are still active. But even with general handling of the phone it's just too easy to hit the call button especially when you mean to hit the left softkey.
I'll remember "pocketcall" tho...
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I fire up s2u2 by hand before pocketing it and never had any problems

just block the screen by pressing end call for +-3 sec.

If you have enabled the lock then the suggestion by zuadao, does not work! What I do instead is, before I put it in my pocket etc. I press the hard botton at the top to switch it off!

Thanks guy's - these are all OK if you can get into the habit and if you are putting phone away - but, like I said, it's also a problem in general handling of it when it's in use.
For me, the best would be to disable single press call - but i'm struggling to do it.
I do appreciate the answers tho

zuadao said:
just block the screen by pressing end call for +-3 sec.
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This is what I also do, works a treat. Would be nice to hold it for 1 seconds though instead of 3.

I use gyrator 2. I flip my mobile face down and it will lock automatically and turn off screen. I am lazy to push +- 3 secs end call.....

kuyichi said:
I use gyrator 2. I flip my mobile face down and it will lock automatically and turn off screen. I am lazy to push +- 3 secs end call.....
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Good tip, I will try that
(my first post)

What i usually do is to press the top on/off button to turn off the screen before putting into my pocket.

Another option is the "auto lock" feature in HD Tweak. It locks your phone each time you turn the screen off, which alleviates having to hold the end key down for a few seconds.

Best oh yes by FAR the best solution is TouchLockPro

How to lock the screen by turning it off?

Hi, my typical procedure before putting the phone in the pocket is to hold right soft button to lock the screen and to switch off the screen with the power button. I wonder if there is a way to do it at once. You press the power button and screen goes off locked?
Thanks.s.

Install AutolockScreen 1.7 (I'm at work so don't have the cab with me, but if you search this site you'll find it. Install the cab and then go to Start\Settings\System\SmartLock and tick Suspend lock.

LockDevice works well...
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/09...k-the-windows-mobile-screen-after-wakeup.html

Do either of these lock screen apps consume a lot of power?
I understand they have also been created with power saving feaures but what do they run like in a coarse of a day for instance, do they drain the battery quickly?
Thanks.

HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off

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HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off
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It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.

Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.

rpimps said:
Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.
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Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.

ClydeB1 said:
It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.
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My phone is set to quite dim anyway in Power settings so this doesn't affect me.......hence why I forgot about it
I've attached the cab which ClydeB1 was talking about, i.e. SmartLock 1.7

Mastoid said:
Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.
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What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?

rpimps said:
What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)

rpimps said:
What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.

ClydeB1 said:
Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock

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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock
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Was using your answer and expanding on it for explaining to rpimps

ClydeB1 said:
Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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Oh ok thanks for the info. Mine does unlock when I get a call/sms but I text a lot so I prefer it to do that, otherwise I'd be wasting a lot of time unlocking it every time I got a message.

Thanks for the hint ClydeB1 and thanks for the cab Fallen Spartan.
I tried SL 1.7 and there are three things, which I do not really like.
1. The phone returns to the very same screen where it was switched off. Some may consider it a pre. I prefer to see the clock when I switch it on.
2. The screen blink once when the phone is switchd on. I find it a bit irritating.
3. I do not see how I can uninstall it.
So, I wonder if you can undim the screen in HD Tweak by touching it or you need to do something extra?

You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.

ClydeB1 said:
You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.
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The way I had activated the lock was by pressing and keeping pressure on the end call softkey, after a few seconds it vibrates and activates the lock. It comes on automatically when you put the screen off or restart the phone.
Regards.

Auto-lock screen
I'm running CLEAN ROM (B version) with SPB Mobile Shell.
Considering I don't want any superficial apps installed on my HD, I used HD Tweak and turned autolock on.
To get over the "background light not undimming after locking" problem, I initially unchecked "Automatically adjust backlight" under Settings > System > Power > Backlight and set at 100%. I also set the "Dim backlight on Device" when on battery power to the same time as "Turn off device if not used for". In my case that was 1 minute. I tested and this worked fine.
I then went back in and checked the "Automatically adjust backlight" checkbox.
I also performed the wake up with volume button reg edit making it easier to wake up device.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DefaultKeyLock"= 0
UPDATE:
Just tested again and I realised if you wake up device but don't unlock. The screen will automatically dim. Unfortunately if you unlock immediately after, the dim screen issue rears it's ugly head again. The only workaround at this point is to completely disable dim backlight.