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tytn as a laptop modem?

hows the conection done? hopefully usb?
what setting / software are needed on the lappy and tytn?
if at all it can be done?

You can do it through USB, Bluetooth or IrDA.
These instructions are for universal, but the same applies for TyTN:
BlueTooth
IrDA
USB

maybe we should put this on the wiki?

yak86 said:
maybe we should put this on the wiki?
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Wiki updated, I've put it on FAQs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_FAQs

DUN
Is there a way to use DUN now that it's been disabled because of Internet Sharing?

New Tyten and Vista
Ok, I've been through the 3 ways to connec as a modem, I actually manged to connect ages ago with XP.
I now have a new Tyten, well new for the states but probably old in the rest of the world.
Anyway the New Tyten has a thing called Internet Sharing instead of wireless modem
None of the old settings are there anymore.
It also has a new way to connect via Blue Tooth Pan.
I've tried the Pan way but I had no luck, the connection seemed to work but I couldn't get on the internet.
I then tried USB, I couldn't get Vista to recognise the Tyten, even when I turned off the active synch, anybody got any ideas????

with Vista and WM6 internet sharing I think its easier than DUN. there is a whole how to in the help program on your hermesjust open the help app and search for internet sharing. just make sure your phone and laptop are connected via bluetooth and then open the internet sharing app and click connect make sure its set to bluetooth PAN. on my laptop I have a little bluetooth icon when its on so I right click that and then connect via persoanl network and then a little pop up pops up and I click on the connect bottun and it connects in about 15 seconds pretty easy! I know for USB you have to open the WMDC connection settings and uncheck allow usb connections.

Thanks
Cheers for that, I'll give it a go, although to be honest I've been trying it all afternoon..
I get the connection but no Internet connection..

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Ok, the plot thickens, I found drivers on the HTC Europe site to connect your Hermes to Vista.
I uninstalled all of the previous active synch hardware and also thre previous modem
When I plug the phone in it doesn't open the new downloads.
Any ideas, I'm running Windows 5.1, is there an official Windows 6 I can update to?

Some help with Macbook
So the instructions are great but how does it work on an Apple Macbook? I've searched through the forum many times without any luck. Any ideas on how to connect via USB and/or bluetooth?

elnino132 said:
So the instructions are great but how does it work on an Apple Macbook? I've searched through the forum many times without any luck. Any ideas on how to connect via USB and/or bluetooth?
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Search, then you'll find.
It is ok for me using 10.4.10 with USB via MissingSync.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302977&highlight=MissingSync

this may help...
For anyone having trouble getting their laptop to recognize the 8525 as a modem this may be the solution.
http://www.terranettech.net/DisplayPg.aspx?codeid=1128
my phone was working fine but when I tried to set my wife's up to tether it wouldn't show new hardware found when plugged in and when I tried to manually install the driver the process bix just kinda stalled out and wouldn't go forward with the driver even though I had browsed to the right one. I had to uninstall the driver which was viewing the phone as a serial device. if you're having this trouble then try following te directions in the link above. it worked for me...

net on phone via pc

hi,
does anybody know if we can use internet from pc on the x1 via bluetooth...
i tried finding on google but in vain...can anybody help me regarding this...
ps: i am aware that we can use internet connection via usb cable...what i want to know is that can we use it via bluetooth...and whats the procedure...
thanks in advance...

so many views and no replies???

i really only think it will work the other way around. if you have 3g using the x1 as a bluetooth modem so you can get internet on your pc. unless you have a highspeed internet connection on your pc that isn't already wireless, in which case you can buy a usb wifi adapter for pretty cheap. i dunno if this was any help...

bleh. disregard most of that. i'm sleepy... i only read half. yes it is possible to use your phone as a bluetooth modem though

thanks dude...
the thing is that i hav a really fast pc connection and its cheap...whereas the phone internet service is costly...so i was just wondering if its possible...(net fron pc to phone via bluetooth)
thanks anyways...cheers

Actually there is a way.....
If you establish an bluetooth active-sync connection.
You should be able to surf the net via the bluetooth connection...
But it is still more efficient to go by wi-fi....
Stuart

awesome dude...ill check it rightaway..thanks

doesnt work...detects the serial port..but connection fails..

I know that with Palm OS PDA we used Mocha PPP, perhaps you can give it a try.
Else perhaps an adhoc connection if you want to try Wifi.

yes being connected to activesync with bluetooth give the phone the network access of the pc
been doing it since i had an old wm2003 device
or you can do this if you dont want to use activesync
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork

mercury5 said:
doesnt work...detects the serial port..but connection fails..
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Try initial the BT detection from yr PC (or the other way as I don't remember.). The "serial port" will be replaced w/ ActiceSync eventually.

It does work but it depends on your contract
The carrier company can tell if you are browsing through your phone or using internet sharing. I am on O2 and it does not have this, but if I put my T-Mobile sim card in, it works fine. PC's use higher bandwidth and this costs the mobile companies.
If you want to use it, I recommend using the USB lead as bluetooth and 3G connection will abuse your battery.
To use, press start, programs internet sharing. You can only use it if you have activesync on your pc, USB mode is activesync and your mobile provider lets you.
DAN

danjwalker
he want to do the opposite he want to surf using his computers internet not
letting his computer use his phone internet

so i was right the first time. all he needs is a usb wifi adapter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Wi-Fi_USB_Connector
something kind of like that

and you won't even have to use bluetooth after you set it up. just turn on your wifi in the comm manager

Rudegar said:
or you can do this if you dont want to use activesync
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
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This method may not work anymore since PAN client is being removed in recent WM release. You may need to try this to get PAN client working. I posted my working experience over there w/ my Att tilt. But this method require a lot more effort to get it working compare to activesync.

yeah... you guys are backwards on this

figurine said:
yeah... you guys are backwards on this
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why would anyone want to buy additional hardware when it "should" be possible to use the current internet connection on your PC over bluetooth?

artesea said:
why would anyone want to buy additional hardware when it "should" be possible to use the current internet connection on your PC over bluetooth?
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i thought the bluetooth internet sharing only works one way...?

if you go to internet sharing on the phone, you choose bluetooth pan and then a connection that your phone uses to connect to the internet. that's not what he wants. someone correct me if i'm wrong and there's another way to do this bc i'm really not sure.

Quick My MobileR question.

Fellassss:
Did you guys check out: My MobileR
I always knew this kickass app existed but never really tried it..... till now.
The thing is awsome
If you havent tried it out you should.
My question is:
Does any one know how can you use the computers internet conection on the phone. You guys know what I mean right?
Thanks for everyones time.

Yes, i've used My Mobiler many times.
Since it requires ActiveSync connection between the device and PC, the PC's internet connection will automatically be shared with the phone.

iv'e tryed it and it works good but haven't found any sense in the usage

I have used this app for a few weeks now without many problems. i have occcasionally had problems with the activesync connection but that may b down to something else, i simply disconnect and reconnect. it's great for using with a cradle as you can download your cabs, copy to device in normal way then use mymobiler to install and test without disconnecting device. i can send texts using pc keyboard and you can video record your screen as u use it (could b good to show a developer a problem that u are having with their app). screenshots are useful when you cant get the timing right on your screencapture program.

Techno-Freak said:
Yes, i've used My Mobiler many times.
Since it requires ActiveSync connection between the device and PC, the PC's internet connection will automatically be shared with the phone.
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I dont get an auto connection. Weird!
Any help fellas?

Sergio PC,
Are you using ActiveSync(on XP) or WMDC(on Vista).
In the "Connection Settings" on both ActiveSync and WMDC, there is an option to "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop."
Try toggling it and see if it works then.

starsucker said:
iv'e tryed it and it works good but haven't found any sense in the usage
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I agree...i guess it is usefull if you want clean your diamond on a large screen

Techno-Freak said:
Sergio PC,
Are you using ActiveSync(on XP) or WMDC(on Vista).
In the "Connection Settings" on both ActiveSync and WMDC, there is an option to "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop."
Try toggling it and see if it works then.
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Thanks gonna give it a shot.
Kick ass Vista Ultimate is my poison.
Thanks again.

My Solution
If you use WindowsXP you have to use activesync to create any sync setting..
If you use WindowsVista you have to use WMDC and to create any sync setting..
For example sync "My Mobile Favorites"

I m using it long time due problem with my ActiveSync (Firewall etc) , so I simple using the WIFI connection, In this case no ActiveSync needs...

Why my WiFi is grayed out?

Noticed that, obviously my phone is not in airplane mode, please advise.

mine does this when im plugged in to the pc via usb

Ryan Cordero said:
mine does this when im plugged in to the pc via usb
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Yes...when plugged in via usb it utilizes the internet that is available in the pc and overrides the wi-fi. Unplug the usb cable and the wi-fi should come back on without any interaction on your part.

n11 said:
Yes...when plugged in via usb it utilizes the internet that is available in the pc and overrides the wi-fi. Unplug the usb cable and the wi-fi should come back on without any interaction on your part.
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Does it do it no matter if I choose active-sync/file sharing/internet sharing? I guess the third option does not make much sense...

alexsemi said:
Does it do it no matter if I choose active-sync/file sharing/internet sharing? I guess the third option does not make much sense...
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I'm a little outside of my comfort range here...but...I believe the third option, internet sharing allows the PC to use the HD2 as the internet source. This is referred to as tethering. I'll look forward to someone correcting me if I'm wrong.

n11 said:
I'm a little outside of my comfort range here...but...I believe the third option, internet sharing allows the PC to use the HD2 as the internet source. This is referred to as tethering. I'll look forward to someone correcting me if I'm wrong.
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Bingo, you are correct
It passes your data connection over to your PC via USB, just like the phone was a modem.

but what if you want to use the phone as the internet source from your laptop? I have wifi in my house and use hotspots when available but what if I have neither available. can I use the phone to connect my laptop to the internet?
if so HOW?
thanks

pblocal said:
but what if you want to use the phone as the internet source from your laptop? I have wifi in my house and use hotspots when available but what if I have neither available. can I use the phone to connect my laptop to the internet?
if so HOW?
thanks
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If your LT does not have a wifi card get one, a using a $30 wifi card is preferable to using a $500 phone as a wifi dongle ...[/QUOTE]
But, yes you can use your phone to access the internet on your laptop , as stated before it is called tethering , it uses the phones data connection not the phones wifi connection ...
The exception to that is , if you run the wifi router app on your phone, not plugged into usb, then you can connect your LT to your phone via wifi ...
So one more time ...
Internet Sharing over USB allows your LT to connect to your phones Data connection not its wifi , wifi will be disabled.
Internet Sharing using the Wifi Router on the phone turns the wifi into a Ad-hoc access point, so your LT can connect to your phone over wifi and use your phones data connection ..

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my laptop does have 802.1bgn built into it. so at home, it automatically connects to my wireless router. this all works fine. I cannot afford to pay an additional $30 or whatever extra per month for a few minutes of internet access that I need from time to time from a wireless card/dongle or whatever.
if I take the LT to a hotspot (starbucks for example) once again it if fine.
if I go to a location that has neither then I would like to use the phone, either tethered or through bluetooth or wireless to get the laptop to connect to the internet throught the htc phone but I just cannot figure out how to do this.
I can connect the htc and the laptop through bluetooth or by the usb tethering but it will not connect to the internet and I cannot figure out what I need to do to get it to connect.
can you help me on this? thanks

pblocal said:
my laptop does have 802.1bgn built into it. so at home, it automatically connects to my wireless router. this all works fine. I cannot afford to pay an additional $30 or whatever extra per month for a few minutes of internet access that I need from time to time from a wireless card/dongle or whatever.
if I take the LT to a hotspot (starbucks for example) once again it if fine.
if I go to a location that has neither then I would like to use the phone, either tethered or through bluetooth or wireless to get the laptop to connect to the internet throught the htc phone but I just cannot figure out how to do this.
I can connect the htc and the laptop through bluetooth or by the usb tethering but it will not connect to the internet and I cannot figure out what I need to do to get it to connect.
can you help me on this? thanks
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Ok now we are getting somewhere, do you have a screen that pops up on your phone that asks you how to connect?
If not goto Settings>Connections>USB to PC , then check the bottom box "Ask me ..."
When you plug your phone into usb it should ask you if you want to use , ActiveSync, Diskdrive, or Internet Sharing, if you choose Internet sharing it should goto the data screen right after that and install the driver on the PC.
It then should connect .
So really your question should have been , "How do I share my phones data connection over USB?", or something like that .
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It is a good idea to have the other connections on your laptop shut off, wifi , lan ...

that button has been checked but it only it says the first two active sync and disc drive but not internet connections. how do I get it to ask me that?

pblocal said:
that button has been checked but it only it says the first two active sync and disc drive but not internet connections. how do I get it to ask me that?
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umm .. now that I do not know , it must not be in your ROM ...
What ROM are you using on your phone is it stock?

yes stock, have only loaded a few apps, nothing else different only 3 weeks old.

pblocal said:
yes stock, have only loaded a few apps, nothing else different only 3 weeks old.
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Well, to be honest, I only played with mine Stock for about 3 hours, so maybe someone with a stock one that has played with it more, will wade in here .....

pblocal, somewhere in your start menu, you will find an icon for "internet sharing", just run that, and make sure the two options are set to "USB" and "T-Mobile Data" (or whatever your data connection is named, it should be in the drop-down list), and then hit "connect" in the bottom left.. If you're connected via the ActiveSync option, it should then feed your 3G connection to your pc over the usb cable.

looked all over for that but could not find it.
could it be this phone does not have it? that would be LAME!
thanks for the help guys but I need more....

you can find the "Internet Sharing" app in the tools folder in the start menu.

it is in misc. settings on the phone last setting at the bottom

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pblocal, somewhere in your start menu, you will find an icon for "internet sharing", just run that, and make sure the two options are set to "USB" and "T-Mobile Data" (or whatever your data connection is named, it should be in the drop-down list), and then hit "connect" in the bottom left.. If you're connected via the ActiveSync option, it should then feed your 3G connection to your pc over the usb cable.
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wow! found it, sometimes the most obvious buttons are the most difficult to see. I hooked it up and for some reason it connected automatically for me this time.
thanks everyone for all your help. I can now use my phone to get my laptop on the internet if need be, once in a blue moon!
thanks again.....
ps - this post was done while using the 3g connection from my HTC, not so slow either!

How to share PC internet sharing through my mobile?

Hi Guys,
I've got a question with WP7.. usually with 6.5 when i plug the USB cord to my phone i can do internet sharing from my pc to my phone. For some reason I cant seeemed to get internet access when i plug the usb to my phone.
Did anyone manage to get this working on WP7?
please help

it does it automatically, assuming you have zune installed, setup and connected and not blocked by a firewall

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it does it automatically, assuming you have zune installed, setup and connected and not blocked by a firewall
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How do you get zune to do that? I just tried it on my laptop, turned of my wifi nad plugged in my phone, let it sync, etc. No internet connection though. I looked around on zune for a tethering option but the only thing I found was a "linking" option, and when I clicked it, it said my phone is not compatible with that software.
Edit: Nevermind, I read the first post wrong, I though it said to PC from Phone.

Hey Gus sorry to say but it is not working on my HD2. I have WP7 on HD2. My device is not activated. I want to use PC's internet on my HD2 so that i can save the data charges on 3g connection. Please help me to share PC's internet connection on the phone.
Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.

mohitsheoran said:
Hey Gus sorry to say but it is not working on my HD2. I have WP7 on HD2. My device is not activated. I want to use PC's internet on my HD2 so that i can save the data charges on 3g connection. Please help me to share PC's internet connection on the phone.
Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
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you must activate device so that Zune will recognise it.

Robbie P said:
you must activate device so that Zune will recognise it.
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Nope, the method doesn't work. Phone activated, recognised by Zune etc etc. But the internet connection is not shared. For example, if I were to download free apps, they will get installed using my 3G connection and using my data. Same with Android. For those of us without home Wi-Fi and expensive 3G plans it gets quite pricey to flash or hard reset every time. I get 100Mb for $10 a month.

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Nope, the method doesn't work. Phone activated, recognised by Zune etc etc. But the internet connection is not shared. For example, if I were to download free apps, they will get installed using my 3G connection and using my data. Same with Android. For those of us without home Wi-Fi and expensive 3G plans it gets quite pricey to flash or hard reset every time. I get 100Mb for $10 a month.
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If I connect phone to PC and run Zune, go to settings turn off wifi, go to settings/ mobile network and switch off Data connection and 3G connection. Then I can use internet in IE9. What else can it be but the PC's connection?
For Android, you need a ROM with internet pass through, or try http://www.connectify.me/ (i haven't tried it) it might help.
I hope this works for you and saves $

I'm interested in connecting PC through mobile's internet.
I've seen that Mango have mobile hotspot function built in, but it's dependent on mobile provider.
Is there any cab to switch on wireless hotspot?