Titan VS. Raphael - Mogul, XV6800 General

Since I had to send my Titan back to my ex-employer do to a layoff, I went out and got a ATT FUZE (Raphael). Ladies and Gentlemen, run do not walk and trade your Titan in for a Raphael. The only differences that took some time to get used to is a slightly smaller screen and so far it takes a long time for the GPS to fix but seems to pull in more satellites. The battery life seems to be better and a 3 megapixel camera with a flash. The increased memory is great. I rarely need to reboot the phone. You can turn off the TouchFlo 3D if you don't like it and there are a bunch of new ROMs in the Raphael forum.
I guess I will see you all over there as I won't be needing to read the Titan forums.
Thanks again to DCD and GC14 for all their hard work and making my past Titan a usable phone.
Jim Ambrose

yeah I was looking at the samsung omnia from verizon... but their family plans are just too much money... rediculously overpriced.....
so will stick to my mogul.. but will check out what yer ravin bout

I believe the Raphael or Fuze is the touch pro for Verizon and Sprint isnt it?

vegeta77778 said:
I believe the Raphael or Fuze is the touch pro for Verizon and Sprint isnt it?
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Fuze=AT&T and Verizon I think.
Touch Pro= Sprint.
dwizzy130

The Fuze is AT&T's name for the device, and it operates on GSM. It is the Touch Pro on other carriers though - Sprint, Alltel, Verizon. The CDMA model is 6850, obviously succeeding the 6800.

The guy I sit next to just got a Touch Pro on Alltel since his second 6800 died. All I can say is WOW! This is what the phone should have been all along. Lots of memory, the touch screen is great, and it's keyboard now has a dedicated number row. The buttons respond better. Be advised that the keyboard slides out to the left instead of the right now. I'm left handed so I love it. It's more like the Samsung i760 I had for a while. If it wasn't for the pricing VZW for the data plans, I'd have kept that phone.

Accordintg with a poll taking place here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Of 3500 voters on that poll
Titan has 21 votes
Raphael has 330 votes

Touch Pro 2
At this point, why not wait for the Touch Pro 2, due out in late Q2 of 2009 for both Europe and North America?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/02/23/htc-touch-pro2-confirmed-for-north-america-eta-is-hazy/

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At this point, why not wait for the Touch Pro 2, due out in late Q2 of 2009 for both Europe and North America?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/02/23/htc-touch-pro2-confirmed-for-north-america-eta-is-hazy/
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You see, I'm really old-fashioned. All recent devices out there (including the "still to be released" Pro2) look just too clean to me. Finger-friendly devices, IMHO, are just too keen to collect finger prints!
Where are all those uselful hardware buttons, to be used whenever we want our devices in portrait mode? That's the main reason why I chose the Ultimate 9502 last year, after my Uni's death. HW keys are all over the place. I have one of them remapped by PQzII and then, I'm able to access the applications and settings I mostly use without needing to take out the stylus. And I'm pretty happy with it !
Of course, sometimes, I do touch my screen. Some applications do require it. But, in general, HW keys are much, much faster.
Well, I'm getting old, and, lately, I've been finding myself heavily wrong in my assumptions...
Cheers!
Carlos

You all should check out the Touch HD. People are getting the Telstra 850 model from Down Under and getting it to work on ATT 3g. I just won one so looking forward to the "iphone killer".

Related

7501 Listed on Amazon - Available August 1, 2007

I'm not sure when this showed up on Amazon, but it's been in the last couple of days. I've heard that Amazon was going to be the first distributor of the 7501 in the U.S. and it looks like it will be available August 1st. Here's the link to the listing ... http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Advantage...8543?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1178972918&sr=8-1
We can't order it yet, but can you can sign up for an email when it becomes available.
Thats good news for you guys in the US. Should hopefully mean more accessories will start to be released as it appears people are slow on the uptake with tmanufacturing acessories for the Advantage as there isnt too much to choose from.
Also hopefully will mean Windows Mobile 6 for the rest of us Ameo / Advantage owners who are on Windows Mobile 5! I dont mind waiting till August!
x7501
Actually after reading the link you posted.That is the X7500 and Amazon will not be the only organisation selling this device.David of Mad Monkey boy gadgets will have the device on hand when it is released.
I believe this is the 7501 since it has WM6
It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?
Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.
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It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?
Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.
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actually, i see no points of getting the HTX X7501 if you can get X7500. There will be official WM6 update for X7500, it has been confirm and announce already.
So which one will you get? x7500 with front camera and WM6 and you don't need to wait, or x7501 with no front camera with WM6 but you have to wait?
I am still trying to figure out what is there even a X7501, my internal contact in HTC can not answer it, and the best guess is x7501 is target for US market only, but hey, x7500 is also being sold in US now.
Good point
The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.
Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.
Thank you very much for your insight.
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The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.
Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.
Thank you very much for your insight.
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i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.
Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself
Yes, it does work on the Cingular 3g network. As a matter of fact, it works great. No issues at all on the cingular 3g network.
Doesn't allow video telephony... unfortunatly true. The network is provisioned, sites are being added regularly and SUDs work fine. If you can manage to have someone add the SOCs for you or in some cases write the proper class on your SIM, you can use it. Why oh why marketing chooses not to turn on the switch. Market is ready to pay to use the service, and network deployed should suffice to the extra load. Most sites have enough bandwith to sustain data connection over 3G and video telephony. *sigh* why are northamerican GSM service providers so behind in the offering? Devices, services... I'm moving back to hong kong! Hutchison isn't bad at all in comparison now.
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i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.
Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself
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Thanks for the news !!!
That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.
Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.
Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.
Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.
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That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.
Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.
Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.
Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.
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wm6 update will be available in about 2 months
I bought mine from
http://www.dweiniger.com/
which one? 7501?
lennyfl said:
http://www.dweiniger.com/
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Worst... webdesign... ever...
Nara-e-Mastana said:
Which one? 7501?
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Couldn't be, it's not out yet. Or am I lost?
This is incredible !!!
As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 (opps ... meant X7500) through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).
I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!
olliesshop said:
As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).
I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!
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I believe you mean a X7500, the x7501 comes with Windows Mobile 6 and is not released yet...But yea, I love my x7500 too!
hi guys/gals,
just to verify olliesshop, is it the 7500-wm-5 or 7501-wm-6 that you received ?
i,m just down i-94 in ann arbor and had my jasjar up until a few months ago, but it seemed slow and had to be reset regularly, and reception for the phone and data was quite slow, not to mention the poor camera.
ahhhhhhhhh but now that i have the trion, i really do miss that vga screen!
anyway please let us know which version you have,and does it have the front video camera ?, price you paid and how quickly did you receive it ?
thanks,
djsell
First, yes it was the X7500, sorry for the typo.
Second, it came with WM5 and I expect to upgrade to WM6 in a couple months, along with all the other X7500 owners. Also, it does have the front video camera. I bought it through good old eBay. Here's the link to the item ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=220111572595. My research showed only a few X7500 retailers, so I went to eBay to check out the one's sold there. This one seemed like the best deal and they where based in the U.S. (Las Vegas). I called them up and they seemed nice so I went with them ... http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php. So far, it's still an incredible machine compared to my Jasjar.
The only 2 minor problems I have so far:
1. The clear part of the keyboard is getting scratched from the "sharp metal" edge of the screen. It's slightly poud of the black case so it scrapes the clear part as it slides over it. So my plan is to wait until there's no interference (after it's worn all the way down) and polish the clear plastic.
2. There's no place to put the keyboard when you just want to use the main part of the device. So I end up putting in my pocket. I assumed it would magnetically attach to the back of the device, but it doesn't seem to.
Overall summary ... I was waiting for the Omni, but it seems like it's turning out to be vaporware or at least not available until late this year. This was clearly the right decision. The Cingular/AT&T 3G works flawlessly in Grosse Pointe, where my Jasjar could barely get a signal anyware after they introduced 3G. The large screen is awesome compared to the Jasjar. I could go on and on, but I will be having tonnes of fun with with for a while.
i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade
if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you
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i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade
if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you
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For your SMS problem; Did you set your SMS centre number in your phone settings?
If you just installed the SIM card after getting the unit then your SMS and Voicemail numbers need to be entered in the phone settings.

HTC to USA : No 3G Touch HD for you

Not fair!
"HTC made a confirmation on their Twitter page that there are no plans to bring a 3G Touch HD to the US. "
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7689.html
Those filthy mothers! I goddamn It!!! its because they hate us! And now I hate them... But i will still buy there products. Ok so i'm hypocrite but Its the lesser of the 2 evils (apple) The HD would cripple there competition.
{Bitter as ****!}
It'll happen eventually, I'm calling BS on them turning down a giant US market with an iPhone killer in their hands.
http://twitter.com/htc
Is where they say that there is no plans to release the HD on US soil.
And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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Wow... I'm shocked. This phone that half the forum was ready to jump on, the iPhone killer, best PPC phone made to date as some have called it... And they don't bring it to the US. I'm still skeptical, I think they may change their minds.
Well, they did get FCC approval for the EU version that doesn't support US 3G frequencies, so who knows...
does someone wanna let me live in europe with them?
ill ask my aunt.
I don't use usa 3G anyhow, since t-mobile only recently got it going with the Android. So, I'll happily use EDGE with this masterpiece when I get the pre-ordered unlocked european version!
Someday there will be a usa 3G version, but most likely for the at&t bandwidth....
that's wack i think they are missing out on a very big market i don't see why it can't be relased in the States this is probably the best competitor to the Iphone
Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Well, we're getting there with the Diamond and Raphael having capacitive button areas. Now if they'd just do it for the entire screen, that would be something else. Not sure how WinMo 6 would handle it, though. Maybe we have to wait for 7 to see that functionality... I hope they mention something about it at the PDC. Can't wait to go there
This is terrible news I suppose HTC decided it wouldn't be worth producing a US version of the phone as sales wouldn't generate enough revenue. I guess they don't think they can compete with Apple's marketing power/magic/overhyped iPhone
I am very disappointed, I actually feel lost and confused. This was the phone I was going to ditch my iphone for. I could always get the Fuze now but was so disappointed with my Diamond I just don't see how the Fuze will live up to my expectations.
Maybe the X1 or Omnia will be my next phone.
From wmpoweruser.com, find below 3 speculations on why HTC may have decided to do this:
1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
2) HTC did not want to draw attention from their new G1 android phone, and therefore decided not to release in USA.
3) HTC thinks the investment would be wasted, due to the local dominance of the iPhone in USA, unlike in Europe, where the seemed to have accelerated its release.
I'm going with reason #1. Apple and AT&T are the devil and the devil's spawn, respectively.
Looks like XDA-Developers is going to have to start calling on some HARDWARE EXPERTS!! Swap out the radios perhaps???
Very disappointing news, but hopefully this just means that we'll get something even better when the Touch HD II is born!
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1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
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This is why I'll never be an iPhone user
g1 sales?
If they said the t-HD was coming in march they would kill half the g1 sales, I figure as soon as the hype for the g1 is over there will magically be an t-HD for USA. I am waiting for a t-HD pro w/ keyboard. I got the g1 to play with/take apart until then.
Looks like i made a good gamble... i gave up on the fuze and speculated the HD would be months out and got a US Diamond 2 weeks ago.
Looks like i will be using the diamond a lot longer than i thought. Love the phone.
1) I think AT&T is mostly responsible, since they would probably just delay the HD until mid way through next year. And who would want it then if HTC reveals a new and better device? Besides, AT&T probably doesn't want an iPhone-killer that is going to kill its iPhone.
2) Tmo and Google could also be responsible. Judging from how well G1 sales have been going, Tmo might want to get its hands on a second Android device to hit two price-points: one all-around "good" device with keyboard at $179 (the G1), and another high-design iPhone-killer at ~$299. So who knows, maybe HTC/Tmo/Google killed the HD in order to resurrect it as an Android device. After all, there has been no shortage of "Android on HD" comments everywhere, and Tmo actually keeps track of the blogosphere.
The latest on HTC's tweet:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948811620

How long do you plan to keep your Hermes?

i assume everyone here on XDA is a gadget freak who constantly upgrades over and over again and again.
Hermes should be fairly "old" by cellphone standards and as the current batch of cooked ROMs mature w/6.5 kernel coming into play it should be more stable and even more mature. winmo 7.0 is a maybe at this time, or it might require all new hardware.
how long do u plan to keep it. i expect most answers to be:
-until XYZ model/gadget comes out.
as for myself, i'm either;
-waiting for my contract to expire end of this summer and replcacing it w/the June iPhone
or
-waiting for NVidia's Tegra-enabled smartphone to debut. it will finally match my expectations of speed for a mobile device. hermes is really slow =( even if i use a bare/naked no app build.
Waiting till it breaks i guess. I have nothing against the phone.. Compared to my Co-Workers Phones' Mine is Pretty much a Beast.
Or if i find a good 8925 (Tilt, Kaiser) or Possibly a Sony Ericsson X1 for pretty cheap, I might consider it.
probably as long as it works, I'm saving up for a Kaiser right now but I will still be keeping my 'bankie' even if I get a Kaiser.
Suits my needs... Have a 2nd Jasjam spare for when my current one dies...
I have five 8525's that I have flashed with WWE ROM. I ll keep them till I can't canibalize them anymore, Then I'll buy somrthing with the current WMo os.
2 weeks or less if im lucky i have the white screen problem and the fix doesnt work with it.
i have a touch pro but the screen wont align due to a dead spot so i am just waiting on the new screen coming from hong kong then bye bye hermes you did me well
Still a strong contender - Like a new phone with 6.5
To be honest, none of the WinMo successors have really wowed me as anything more than small upgrades to this phone , which was an absolute milestone in terms of funtionality when it was launched (just consider that, 2.5 years after launch it still has faster data transfer speeds than the current iPhone).
I was lusting after the Raphael until the 6.5 ROMs came out for Hermes. I had no idea that the TyTn could run a 6.5 ROM so smoothly. It's basically like a new phone. At this stage, I'm no longer considering the Touch Pro and will probably wait for the Touch Pro 2 to come out or for my Hermes to break...
X1i
Though, I already have my X1i (Xperia), I will keep my hermes until ... i dunno as long as it is still working...
I too was wating on the TP2, and saving my pennies....
But, then the Amazon deal for a <$100 Dream showed up, and that went out the window!
I sold my Hermes to my brother, and got a white G1.
I will rock the G1 for a while, and keep an eye on Tegra & used TP2 prices. And watch the WM6.5/7 & Android tango to see what's working well.
-bZj
I keep my Hermes until the end of June, when my contract gets renewed and i own the Touch HD
But i will keep my Hermes further on for testing/development purpose.
And because i got so used to it and love it
for as long as it will run i dont really care if new models are out
Until it dies.
Or Someone gives me a t-mobile g1
i already keep it more than 3years, still like it
Hope this is ok to post this here...
Could anyone help me make an educated decision between the TyTn and the TyTn 2? (Or even a better phone) I've been cruzing ebay for an unlocked or att phone and i came across the TyTn in my searches. It looks like a great phone and HTC makes some of the coolest phones I've seen.
I only want to pay about $100 to $150 (maybe 200 if its worth it). I wont have a data plan but have access to wifi a lot. And I would like to make use of windows mobile. The TyTn is going for about 150 or less on ebay. I'm just worried that its too old of a phone or maybe that the new TyTn 2 is better? I'm leaning towards the old TyTn. Any thoughts would be great. As far as I can see the TyTn 2 is hardly different other than GPS and tilting screen, but you guys are the experts! Any help would be great.
tytn2 is better... but it's still basically tytn1. i, too, was also checking out tytn2 for the longest time... until touchpro 2.
personally, i've been looking at TP2 for longer and longer times and the more i look at it, the more i love it!!! if it ever debuts here in the US on TMobile i'm definitely pulling the trigger on it. my hermes is clanky compared to the thinner TP2. it looks beautiful and has more processing power. and it's time for me to renew anyways and i've wanted to transition to TMobile for the longest time now. so here's a hoping =).
Hey thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm pretty much set on the TyTn 2 now. But people keep saying i should get the Fuze. I dont really like the fuze though. I saw it in an ATT store the other day and it felt flimsy. And for me, the price to performance ratio isnt worth it. The only cool thing i see is its faster, better screen and its slimmer. I think I'll enjoy the TyTn 2 better.
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Well, I just picked up a brand new 8525 from AT&T for $100. I did extend my contract, but I'm not changing as I have been very pleased with their service. If I don't like it, I'll give it to my wife who does and get a Fuze. This thing is very fast. I just don't like the lack of internal memory or GPS. I have a GPS mouse that I've used with my Wizard for 3 years, so there's no need to spend more than that at this point. For kicks and giggles, I tethered it to my iMac this morning and there was no difference in speed between it and my cable modem connection. I'm probably going to do a direct port of the HTC Kaiser official 6.1 ROM if I can get a little spare time, so I'm sure I'll be holding on to it for a while.
Ive had mine for several years now (its been shelved since I got my Kaiser a year ago), finally gave it to my counterpart 3 weeks ago - and now its a brick. lol..
She needs a new phone - im happy with my Kaiser.
I have a Fuze now but am using my 8525 with no sim, a powered mount, i-Blue bluetooth GPS and IGuidance as my motorcycle GPS device and in a pinch could still put the sim back in.

Fellow Titan Owners...

Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Stick with WinMo and just upgrade to a TP2 or similar device (key is a bigger screen, at least 3.5" in the diagonal.)
Iphone or any phone on a non-WinMo operating system is a non-issue. Won't want to do without the Skyfire browser, for starters. The app WMWifiRouter is also important to me (turn phone into a wireless router accessible to multiple devices simultaneously.)
Iphone is too expensive to operate at this point - can't get an Iphone onto my $50 "unlimited everything" prepaid from Boost (Sprint CDMA) with unlimited 3G EVDO data. The same functionality I currently get out of my Titan for $50 a month would cost me around $200 a month on an Iphone plan.
Well I have been thinking about this lately...
My new every two year discount begins in December.
I could still use my Titan and wait for a Windows Mobile 7 device with a keyboard but not sure if I can wait that long.
I could get a Touch Pro 2 even though I wish there was a HD2 Pro instead.
Looking at the Pre and Droid as options too...
It's such a hard decision and hopfully there will be more leaked info on Windows Mobile 7.
Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. We'll see what it's like when it comes out. I need a mainly business focused device (active sync, calendar, contacts), not sure if the Droid will live up to it.
I'm also on the hunt for a new rom to flash to the Titan.. (been on an old dcd rom for a long time now).
Thanks for the reply george.
I am sorta in the same boat segadc. My NE2 is up with verizon. However the Pre, Droid and Hero sparked my curiousity equally as I think I may want to jump from WinMo. The worry for me is apps. In testing a friends new jailbroken iphone, the realm of apps is limitless. The Pre, drois and Hero all have good points about them but the recent info for Pre release on Vz Network is not until early 2010. I would like to see all three fisrt hand before I decide to stay with Vz or make a jump for the iphone.
dandaman96 said:
Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. .
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Same here. I would have had a TP2 by now if it was ever in stock. Then I started getting info on the droid and I am intrigued.
The business aspect is somewhat less important to me, so I am leaning android at this point. Though I will miss the htc tweaks...
Yeah I signed up for the Droid emails too. If I knew for sure when the first Windows Mobile 7 (with physical QWERTY) is arriving on Verizon, I would definetly stick with Windows Mobile...
Is the TP2 bigger then the Titan? I need to see some size comparisons.
The more I look at the Hero, the more I am a fan I think. I think the days of WinMo may have come to an end. With my NE2 up now and my contract up in Feb...stay with Vz or go to At&T with the iphone. Like I said, I am an app man but the Hero looks rather sweet.
dont buy an iphone
I was in the exact same situation as you. Out of contract and new every 2 available. Plus, VZ took an additional $100.00 off of the cost of any comperable device. I wanted the TP2 in the worst way, but they are unobtainium (except online for $675.00 ), so I got the Imagio, which I was told is an upgraded version of the TP2 without the keyboard. Not true. The TP2 does quite a few things that the Imagio does not.
Comparing the Titan to the TP2, the TP2 feels great in the hand. It is a little on the heavy side, but I like a device that feels solid. The contoured back is very ergonomic and the cooling holes provide for a nice textured feel that doesn't make me think that I'm about to drop it every seven seconds. I especially like the tilting screen. And once you use a phone with a 3.6 inch screen, you will not want to go back to the 2.8 inch on the Titan. Again, sadly the TP2 is not to be found.
The Hero looks good in specs, but so did the Imagio. If the Leo were to be available on VZ, I would certainly give that one a shot. The bottom line is that I am not happy with the Imagio and will most likely send it back. Then I will be right back in that boat with you.
What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
yeah... Same here. I am ready to NE2 and I am a VIP member so the TP2 would cost 199.99 less 100 NE2 and less 50 for VIP. End cost $49.99 on line only (stores don't give the online discount of 100 or the vip discount). If I could find one. I called tech support and got to the higest level. I was told they have some in stock to replace defective units but not for sale. They wouldn't give me any idea as to when they would be in stock. Then they told me they would look into it and send me an email or txt msg. three days later I got a txt: and I quote "(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
So I guess I wait or jump ship.
I went to youtube and watched reviews for the imagio and the tp2 to compare. I was thinking to go to the imagio. But after watching both reviews, I decided NOT to get the imagio. If you want to watch them yourself type imagio and look for the review part 1 and part 2. Same with the TP2.... I think I'll go take a look at the droid specs.....
Just call everyday. They get small shipments pretty often.
I don't think I was really into the TP2 as I wanted something difft. I was a fan of the Hero previously until I saw Motorola's Droid. Though I need to see actual video reviews of the phone and test it out before I buy it, the Droid may be the way I go. I guess we will wait and see.
drewcam888 said:
What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
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The biggest thing for me is that the Imagio does not support the video out function. Everybody that I have talked to at VZW and HTC say that "It appears as though the Imagio should support video via accessory cable interface." "Looks" and "should" don't get the picture on my PICO.
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"(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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If you can get the TP2, more power to you. For some reason, VZW says (online and in person) that they are out of stock and will not be getting any more. What part of the country are you in? Another user was able to find one in a San Francisco area store. You say that they are available online. When I go online (signed in or acting as a new customer) it says "NEW!" "out of stock".
Scratch that! I just went on Verizon's web site (I usually check it three of four times a day) and it shows the TP2 in stock!
Hmmm. Well, I think I'll be staying with the 6800 for a bit longer. I've looked at the new stuff, but the problem with the TP2 is that it hasn't got a port for an external antenna and where I work, if you don't have an external antenna, you aren't getting out.
Likewise, I like being able to use my phone as a modem for my laptop. Can't do that on the new Verizon phones, at least as far as I've seen (nor can I seem to get Vista to let me do it on my new laptop, but that's another issue.) The new phones are made for people who work in places where cell coverage is ubiquitous - and that's just not my situation.
For the above reason, obviously the iPhone is out too - though I have a patent loathing for the condescending Apple that precludes such a purchase anyway.
you can use something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499 to tether with most new phones.
I guess the external antenna is a downfall. But you could just buy a cell phone repeater amp and not need to plug something into your phone everyday. and you could walk around eaiser.
That's a thought - though I already had the antenna.
There's another link I can use! Thanks! This site is a goldmine of info!

TD2 to Pure or x1a, is it worth switching?

Hi guys, I'm currently using Diamond2 that I bought from Asia. So far there's nothing wrong with this phone and I liked it a lot.
However, my TD2 eats UMTS 900/2100 which is not compatible with 850/1900 that Rogers (from Canada) is providing. Hence I only have access to 2G/EDGE/GPRS and not 3G.
So, right now I'm thinking of two ways to get me on Rogers' 3G network:
Sell my TD2 (or simply pass it on to someone in my family) then buy a AT&T Pure from the US, or
Buy a Sony Ericsson x1a for 99.99 CAD (w/ 3yr contract) from Rogers then flash a ROM with Manila 2.5 in it
Either way I'll be spending around $100 CAD (sell low buy high for TD2)
I've done some research on Touch HD and HD2 (from Telstra) too, but I think the sizes are too big to fit into my jean's pocket nicely.
So what do you guys think? Any advices and suggestions?
PS: I just found a housing that is seems to be able to convert Pure into TD2
http://cgi.ebay.com/R999-Hot-Housing-Faceplate-black-for-AT-T-HTC-Pure_W0QQitemZ250574281543QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a57641b47
Hmm...
Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
I have the Pure and am currently running Duttys Holy Grail R7, and am digging it. Aesthetics are crap compared to the TD2.
Here's the thing though, and maybe its just me, but I ran my phone on EDGE for a good while, and noticed little real world difference in speed when compared to 3G. Maybe I'm just more patient then most, but if you already have a TD2, why pay more for the same phone? If you wanna buy a new handset, get a NEW handset, right?
Of course, if you do, I'd love to hear how that shell replacement goes. I don't think it'll work because the buttons on the Pure are different than the TD2, but what do I know?
I owned the X1 before and purchase Pure from Att recently as a cheap replacement since the digitizer went bad (but fixed myself now). I may a bit bias since I so used to my X1. But there are quite many advantages on X1 that make me missed my X1 so much in the period on using the Pure.
Here is the my order:
1. Hardware buttons!!! X1 has many more buttons for you to use (combine with AE button plus to give you a lot more functionality). Camera, left & right soft key, OK, Panel, and 5 ways optical buttons. They are especially handy when using X1 while driving (don't try it at home. ). Optical button make scrolling between song list extremely easy.
2. 3.5mm audio jack. Need me to say more? (Don't forget it works as TMC antenna too!)
3. keyboard. Typing is much easier on X1.
4. flashlight as torch.
5. U may notice I am a rom cook as well. At the moment, I still can't make iGo8's TTS works with under WM6.5 if Manila 2.5 is active (probably due to memory issue). A very similar build works on X1.
Here are the cons on X1.
1. Crack issue is real!!!
2. No G-sensor means I can't play teether.....
3. I like the flat screen on D2. The gap between the frame and the LCD traps many dirt on my X1..
Thanks for you guys' inputs
demonic_pascal said:
Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
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This is not a problem for me because I've been using Rogers for more than 10 years, so right now Rogers is offering me a very discounted deal. If I want to move out of Canada or change carrier, I can just sell my plan to someone else.
To jackleung:
Before I bought my TD2, I was comparing it with x1 (no x1a at that moment). I've taken account of the pros and cons you've listed so that's why I chose TD2. But if I'm gonna buy a new x1a, I'll still be keeping my old TD2 (x1a for Canada, TD2 when I go back to Taiwan).
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So far my money is leaning towards the x1a because I'm not sure if I can live with the AT&T version of Topaz (some say it is very hard to convert the housing/shell) and jackleung reminded me the benefits that x1 has.
Anyways, I think I'll phone Rogers to see if they still have x1a in Vancouver area. Thanks again people.
Not worth it
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.
htc fan89 said:
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.
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This is nonsense. Spec of X1, D2 is almost identical. Custom roms makes a lot different on both X1 and D2.

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