I'm just curious and want to know if the hardware in the HD2 is capable of higher quality video recording
OK so I have been looking at other phones with a 5MP camera and they can record video higher than 640x480.
One example is the N900. It can record up to 848x480.
Another example, the Droid can record 720x480.
Thx
Why are you posting multiple threads asking the same question (i.e., the other thread here)? You think someone will magically say yes?
For Windows Mobile, it is unlikely you'll see anyone develop any improved drivers for higher resolution video camera recording.
If you're unhappy with this fact, sell the phone and buy the phone that comes with the resolution you want to record at if video recording is so important to you. Didn't you even do your homework prior to buying the HD2?
I only asked if the hardware is capable of a higher resolution.
The hardware.
Read before you answer, ty.
scrizz said:
I'm just curious and want to know if the hardware in the HD2 is capable of higher quality video recording
OK so I have been looking at other phones with a 5MP camera and they can record video higher than 640x480.
One example is the N900. It can record up to 848x480.
Another example, the Droid can record 720x480.
Thx
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Do you really feel the HD2 video recoring its bad. I maybe used the recoring on my phone maybe 4 times in my entire life. The recording its above decent. There might be a hack for it but I doubt people actually dislike the quality of it
It's not so much a question of hardware as it is a question of software and drivers.
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It's not so much a question of hardware as it is a question of software and drivers.
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Well it could be a hardware issue too. most camera sensors have a still picture mode and a video mode. If the video mode is only designed to do 640x480 then that's all your gona get. Sure an app may be able to be written to capture video frame by frame in still pic mode, but can the camera take pics that fast? does the sensor module to motherboard link have the bandwidth to do 5mpixel at 30fps? i doubt it. im guessing that the link between the module and motherboard is either an I2C serial bus or maybe just standard USB, Though in video mode the camera module itself might be doing the mp4 encoding, taking that workload off the CPU, if you tried to capture frame by frame, then your going to have the CPU convert either the raw data or jpeg data from the module into a video format.
I firmware hack or mod for the camera module might be able to enable say 720p video output from the module, but i find it doubtful that anyone is going to get their hands on that firmware and we dont even know if it is "field programmable"
Hey people, i was wondering since HTC are going to update the HTC Desire with 720p recording in the future via an update. HTC HD2 has the same camera why cant we have an update????
and by the way dont start using because windows mobile 6.5 doesnt allow it blah blah blah......
ps just recieved an update read below....
Dear Yus,
Thank you for contacting us. In regards to updates on the HD2 I can help you with that. No updates are planned at this time to enable HD Recording. The hardware may not even be compatible. The only official information on updates is on our website www.htc.com/support We cannot comment on what is seen on the internet as this is not official HTC published content. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
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its hard the hardware its capable of doing it software might not be. Windows Mobile its old and a bit dusty. Im pretty sure theirs a way but HTC dont care the HD2 its like the last strong windows Mobile device standing. HTC are putting their effort to android and windows 7.
josemedina1983 said:
its hard the hardware its capable of doing it software might not be. Windows Mobile its old and a bit dusty. Im pretty sure theirs a way but HTC dont care the HD2 its like the last strong windows Mobile device standing. HTC are putting their effort to android and windows 7.
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^^Hey, I know you!
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It might be plausible to enable the HD recording in the future, but I know WinMo is incapable of supporting HD recording. You'll never know, maybe something miraculous will happen and this might work!
However, at least it's nice to get pics at higher resolutions than 5mp. There's a tweak here, if you didn't know.
its not hardware problem... but the winmo 6.5 dont support hd recording...
show me one win mo 6.5 device with HD recording...
its support only android or difrend os...
so maybe in the final android port can hd2record high definition...
but maybe not
ilijan said:
its not hardware problem... but the winmo 6.5 dont support hd recording...
show me one win mo 6.5 device with HD recording...
its support only android or difrend os...
so maybe in the final android port can hd2record high definition...
but maybe not
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Yeah, and I'm thinking Microsoft might work on fixing that in WP7 and completely ignore WM6.5.x.
Hopefully the devs get that to work. The TP2's Android port still doesn't have camera support and the port's been around since December.
Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
guys if wm6.5 dont support 720p rec
ok how about 720x480 or WVGA like samsung omnia ii ?
something better than nothing
Euroman28 said:
Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
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look at the nexus one
scrizz said:
look at the nexus one
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Can you confirm to use that the camera in the Nexus One and HD2 are identical?
im pretty sure its 720p recording will be possible in thw android port, but because WM6.5 is well old and sucky (or ancient if you dont like to call it sucky)... it wont be possible in it, but hopefully it will be possible in WP7... and i belive android devs said it will be possible in android but thats when its fully ported of course...
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Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
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well, ive tried lol but not successful, camera shuts down everytime i try it, but i can record on WVGA(800x480) plus a bit smoother frame rate than normal HD2
See i'm kinda holding back from buying one of those mini HD camcorders because im certain someone can create a break through with the HD2's camera. saves me taking two devices everywhere just for the camera, when the HD2's camera seems more than capable.
I've not been on the forum long so can someone explain the process that could make this work? Im aware of the WM 6.5 limitations, has anybody got a solid port to android or WM7 yet...?
Dani01c said:
well, ive tried lol but not successful, camera shuts down everytime i try it, but i can record on WVGA(800x480) plus a bit smoother frame rate than normal HD2
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How are you recording in WVGA? I know the Android Camcorder app does but I have never heard of the WinMo recorder going beyond VGA
I don't see how the OS has anything to do with the resolution that the camera can capture at. The limitation is probably in the firmware (in the camera module), camera module driver, or the camera software. Could also be a hardware issue with whatever bus interface is between the camera module and the HD2, it could be a standard USB bus which would have the bandwidth for HD video, or it could be something proprietary with a low bitrate that wouldn't handle the bandwidth of a 720p/24/30 real time video stream. The bus could be a real issue, notice how some of the 1st camera phones that could do 720p were 720p/24. 720p/24 is a lower bitrate than the 720p/30 more common now
I do know that I have gotten my HD2 to capture WVGA video in one of the android builds. I never took the time to evaluate if it was capturing a true pixel per pixel WVGA image, or if it was really capturing a VGA image and then either zooming or stretching it to WVGA in software
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How are you recording in WVGA? I know the Android Camcorder app does but I have never heard of the WinMo recorder going beyond VGA
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I'd like to know as well. I'm more interested in doing widescreen video recording natively. When I run android it does it. How can we do this on the WinMo side? It's not HD just widescreen...
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I'd like to know as well. I'm more interested in doing widescreen video recording natively. When I run android it does it. How can we do this on the WinMo side? It's not HD just widescreen...
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Its quite possible that android is still recording VGA mode and then just cropping off the top and bottom, basically leaving you with 640x360 effective pixels.
We need someone that knows the android cam software that can tell us exactly what its doing, or someone to do a resolution test recording a pattern to measure the recorded resolution
well... actually You are wrong. some android builds ARE capable of recording 800 x 480 videos. what more, those are being recorded flawlessly, no frame drops or stuttering.
I believe that I have recorded those with mattc rom.
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well... actually You are wrong. some android builds ARE capable of recording 800 x 480 videos. what more, those are being recorded flawlessly, no frame drops or stuttering.
I believe that I have recorded those with mattc rom.
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but is it really true 800x480 pixels or the 640x360 upscaled to fill out 800x480? only true way to test is to use a resolution pattern
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/How-We-Test-Camcorders-36180.htm
I am pretty sure that the HD2 has a 4:3 not a 16:9 sensor for the camera. this would explain why we loose resolution when the still camera is put into wide mode. it takes the 4:3 5mpixel image and chops the top and bottom off to make it "widescreen"
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im pretty sure its 720p recording will be possible in thw android port, but because WM6.5 is well old and sucky (or ancient if you dont like to call it sucky)... it wont be possible in it, but hopefully it will be possible in WP7... and i belive android devs said it will be possible in android but thats when its fully ported of course...
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hey guys so after looking into this a little bit more i have found a few odd solutions but a resurfacing of one of the hd2's faults. i have been able to play high res .mp4 movies in the htc video player no problem. it was designed to fit the series of images best to the screen it is given(just to point out the obvious). now due to the fixed screen res on the device, the MOST your going to get out of any video that you watch is 480x800. the program is just running a data summary per pixel when dealing with a pixle count higher than 480. its the same (or similar) process as to when you you choose full screen or wide screen on the device to play movies. you are not getting true pixel to pixel data play back (unless you record with the phone camera at 480p or convert a movie to EXACTLY 480x whatever. which btw does not matter.) with that being said, the htc video play supports a vast amount of resolutions including 720p .mp4. (you guys have made a mountain out of an ant hill) yes i do understand different res vids also have various bit rate and playback qualities, but the best thing to do for that is download chainfires 3d drivers and manually clock your processor to 998Mhz. rendering becomes seamless at that point. so to end one vicious cycle, yes, you can play 720p videos on your hd2 just make sure its the propper file type. now back to the other issue... 720p RECORDING. absolutely the phone can handle it! its a matter of opening an additional camera function to the htc camera. easier said than done. the general idea is changing a value within either the firmware or through the registry for you input image pixle count. for ex:
blah 12031029 blah 2398x1098
blah 239840923
blah blah blah 90238942
bada bing pixel count per image 480x640 <= we need a way to edit this.
or in a reg directory
blah1/YOUR MOM/HTC CAMERA/CAMCORDER/INPUT VALUE/-_-X-_-
SO basically the sooner we can figure a way to change these values (i know its SUPER SIMPLIFIED) the closer we are to getting 720p recording on the hd2...... so yea ..... WHOS WITH ME!?! and if you have any ideas on how to please add to the brainstorming!
mmendez92 said:
hey guys so after looking into this a little bit more i have found a few odd solutions but a resurfacing of one of the hd2's faults. i have been able to play high res .mp4 movies in the htc video player no problem. it was designed to fit the series of images best to the screen it is given(just to point out the obvious). now due to the fixed screen res on the device, the MOST your going to get out of any video that you watch is 480x800. the program is just running a data summary per pixel when dealing with a pixle count higher than 480. its the same (or similar) process as to when you you choose full screen or wide screen on the device to play movies. you are not getting true pixel to pixel data play back (unless you record with the phone camera at 480p or convert a movie to EXACTLY 480x whatever. which btw does not matter.) with that being said, the htc video play supports a vast amount of resolutions including 720p .mp4. (you guys have made a mountain out of an ant hill) yes i do understand different res vids also have various bit rate and playback qualities, but the best thing to do for that is download chainfires 3d drivers and manually clock your processor to 998Mhz. rendering becomes seamless at that point. so to end one vicious cycle, yes, you can play 720p videos on your hd2 just make sure its the propper file type. now back to the other issue... 720p RECORDING. absolutely the phone can handle it! its a matter of opening an additional camera function to the htc camera. easier said than done. the general idea is changing a value within either the firmware or through the registry for you input image pixle count. for ex:
blah 12031029 blah 2398x1098
blah 239840923
blah blah blah 90238942
bada bing pixel count per image 480x640 <= we need a way to edit this.
or in a reg directory
blah1/YOUR MOM/HTC CAMERA/CAMCORDER/INPUT VALUE/-_-X-_-
SO basically the sooner we can figure a way to change these values (i know its SUPER SIMPLIFIED) the closer we are to getting 720p recording on the hd2...... so yea ..... WHOS WITH ME!?! and if you have any ideas on how to please add to the brainstorming!
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i'm wit u 100%
i remember that the nexus one could do 720... is it possible to do that with the hd2...
Well Im sure if it can be done it will, but as it stands that's seen as a luxury (720p) and not really a necessity. We still need fully functional camcorder..
Here's to hoping though!
The hardware is there, we just need a little help from developers.
Hmmm more to HD than resolution methinks
While I'm all for our devices doing more and unlocking their full potential, have you actually seen sample nexus one "720p" videos? It looks like badly upscaled 480p video (which in reality it probably is...). For me, 720p recording and playback ain't that big a deal when the gain in quality is so minimal in terms of the larger files. But I could totally go for some 720p video playback if for nothing more than bragging rights
If you think 720 resolution is going to dramatically improve video quality then you are mistaken. You will just have a larger version of the same video. The quality really hinges on the lens and our lens is not the best.
We all know that the maximum video recording resolution of HTC wildfire is 352 x 288. Max fps will be 19 and max bitrate is 800 kbps. Who expects these things for a 5mp cam. I would like to ask the custom Rom builders to improve the above camera features. I know that the 528 mhz processor can't handle the 720p video recording. But now a days the processor is being overclocked to even 768 mhz which can handle the 720p video. Developers pls work on the camera. Atleast to vga resolution of 640 x 480.
I would like to point out the camera of Nokia 5233 which is less than half the price of wildfire. Nokia 5233 has video recording resolution of 640 x 480. It's fps is 30 and bitrate is 3000 kbps approx. And all these features for a 2mp cam.
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This is a dev zone mate, not a feature request zone. Please try and respect it.
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bharatgaddameedi said:
We all know that the maximum video recording resolution of HTC wildfire is 352 x 288. Max fps will be 19 and max bitrate is 800 kbps. Who expects these things for a 5mp cam. I would like to ask the custom Rom builders to improve the above camera features. I know that the 528 mhz processor can't handle the 720p video recording. But now a days the processor is being overclocked to even 768 mhz which can handle the 720p video. Developers pls work on the camera. Atleast to vga resolution of 640 x 480.
I would like to point out the camera of Nokia 5233 which is less than half the price of wildfire. Nokia 5233 has video recording resolution of 640 x 480. It's fps is 30 and bitrate is 3000 kbps approx. And all these features for a 2mp cam.
This is really a great injustice to wildfire. Pls develop it.
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Why in hell would we develop this ? First of all it will degenerate your cpu like hell because it has to be overclocked at maximum always you use 720 p recording, or even 640 x 480 ? Second it requires kernel , libraries and android core - code adjustments.. And the most devs (who are students) don't have a lot of time to rewrite these parts ( read whole ROM). So your best shot is to write a complaint letter to HTC. Further I can add that the wildfire , because it's a low-budget smartphone, doesn't has a high resolution screen (it's QVGA) so you wouldn't even see a difference because the screen just won't show it. You would only see a difference if you would use these video's on your pc, but my answer on that is : buy a digital camera (I prefer sony, lol).
Hope my answer was helpfull.
Maybe the sensor can't handle large video resolution s. Because other phones can do it doesn't mean that the sensor is the same as the one in our Wildfire.... It can be a cheaper sensor.
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Wildfire struggles to record in its crappy resolution at 10 fps. You want 1 spf VGA video? Be my guest. meh.
720x480 already 1fps for wildfire. And you even want a arm6 processor to take 720p video?
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what is the custom rom that records 720 x 480 video at 1fps. and whats the bitrate in this. pls add a note. and what about the cam pictures quality in this rom. is there any improvement.
i know that even if wildfire takes 720p video, there is no improvement in the video viewing in the wildfire, as its screen resolution is the limiting factor. but im not asking about watching the video in wildfire. i wanted to watch the videos in pc and HDTV. let me just ask u guys a question.
suppose u are having a nice digicam which has the capacity of recording 1080p video @ 30fps and a great bitrate. now do u watch the videos taken by it in that digicam itself, or do u watch them in a full HD 1080p HDTV or a 1080p HD monitor.
i have heard before (untill december) in some forums that wildfire has the capacity to record 720p video. and when it is updated to froyo, it will be recording at 720p. but that didnt happen. even the 3 network in UK, which updated to froyo in february 1st week, announced that they will give the 720p recording to wildfire, but they haven't done it.
i expect that wildfire has the potential to record at 720 x 480 fluently.
here im attaching u an android application called "ELIXIR". u may also search the market for an updated version. the version here is 1.9.3
coming to "ELIXIR", it is an application which gives system hardware and software information. and let us see what it gave with camcorder of htc wildfire.
video rec resolution: 720 x 480
frame rate: 24 frames per sec
video bitrate: 3000kbps.
video codec : H.263
file format: MPEG
the audio bitrate is 12 kbps, single channel, amr, sample rate 8 kHz
Did you knew the words "Hardware Limitations"?
That application says:
Best recording quality is 720x420
The camera supports 24 fps.
If you'd like to get 24 fps, use lowest resolution for video capture and it's possible to get 24 fps.
bharatgaddameedi said:
what is the custom rom that records 720 x 480 video at 1fps. and whats the bitrate in this. pls add a note. and what about the cam pictures quality in this rom. is there any improvement.
i know that even if wildfire takes 720p video, there is no improvement in the video viewing in the wildfire, as its screen resolution is the limiting factor. but im not asking about watching the video in wildfire. i wanted to watch the videos in pc and HDTV. let me just ask u guys a question.
suppose u are having a nice digicam which has the capacity of recording 1080p video @ 30fps and a great bitrate. now do u watch the videos taken by it in that digicam itself, or do u watch them in a full HD 1080p HDTV or a 1080p HD monitor.
i have heard before (untill december) in some forums that wildfire has the capacity to record 720p video. and when it is updated to froyo, it will be recording at 720p. but that didnt happen. even the 3 network in UK, which updated to froyo in february 1st week, announced that they will give the 720p recording to wildfire, but they haven't done it.
i expect that wildfire has the potential to record at 720 x 480 fluently.
here im attaching u an android application called "ELIXIR". u may also search the market for an updated version. the version here is 1.9.3
coming to "ELIXIR", it is an application which gives system hardware and software information. and let us see what it gave with camcorder of htc wildfire.
video rec resolution: 720 x 480
frame rate: 24 frames per sec
video bitrate: 3000kbps.
video codec : H.263
file format: MPEG
the audio bitrate is 12 kbps, single channel, amr, sample rate 8 kHz
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argh. there is no rom which can record at that resolution. the max resolution is near QVGA. AND THAT IS ALREADY LAGGY ENOUGH. Wildfire DOES NOT have the capacity to record at 720p, which is incidentally a 1280x720 resolution, not 720x480 (which is 480p).
I don't know what's wrong with that app, but wildfire most definitely cannot record 720x480 @24fps. that is like trying to run Crysis on an original Pentium. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE!!! and it has been discussed many times so I suggest you give up. -_-
Edit: I hope you realize that cam quality is more of a HARDWARE limitation than software.
someone said me that to get 24fps video recording on wildfire, we should use the lowest possible resolution.
i have done that keeping all other options default. but even i didnt get 24fps. explain
im working with unrooted stock froyo, waiting desperately to get rooted.
bharatgaddameedi said:
someone said me that to get 24fps video recording on wildfire, we should use the lowest possible resolution.
i have done that keeping all other options default. but even i didnt get 24fps. explain
im working with unrooted stock froyo, waiting desperately to get rooted.
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Read Post #10. Also, it has been said many times in this thread the Wildfire records laggy video even at its default resolutions.
The Wildfire doesn't get 24 fps even at the lowest resolution, and your first post requests 720p recording for it. Oh, the irony....
h4oxer said:
Why in hell would we develop this ? First of all it will degenerate your cpu like hell because it has to be overclocked at maximum always you use 720 p recording, or even 640 x 480 ? Second it requires kernel , libraries and android core - code adjustments.. And the most devs (who are students) don't have a lot of time to rewrite these parts ( read whole ROM). So your best shot is to write a complaint letter to HTC. Further I can add that the wildfire , because it's a low-budget smartphone, doesn't has a high resolution screen (it's QVGA) so you wouldn't even see a difference because the screen just won't show it. You would only see a difference if you would use these video's on your pc, but my answer on that is : buy a digital camera (I prefer sony, lol).
Hope my answer was helpfull.
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lets keep the topic of degenerating cpu aside for a while. lets keep the cpu in the safe margin 528 to 575 MHz. and also let us forget about the 720p recording. and even forget about the 24fps.
and let us now concentrate on
--max cpu overclock of 575 MHz
--just getting 10fps and if possible to 15fps
--with a resolution of 640 x 480 (or even slightly lower which becomes intermediate between the current wildfires and this one)
IS IT POSSIBLE.
u said that it requires kernel , libraries and android core - code adjustments..
im not asking someone to write those. just asking whether the above video recording configuration is possible or not if some great developer works on it.
u also mentioned to write a complaint letter to HTC. i dont have expectations that this solves the problem. the reason is HTC didnt improve the wildfire camera even by a little bit in the froyo update.
i dont understand why the 3 network of UK in association with HTC announced that there will be 720p video in the froyo update. this is meaningless because they didnt even gave a 480p via the froyo update. Anyhow writing a complaint letter to htc should be a try. if someone can link me the contact of htc, it would be more appreciable.
and further u mentioned that the screen resolution of wildfire limits. im sorry if the following question is sooo numb.
just check this website: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_google_nexus_one-3069.php
i dont know if there is something wrong with that website or not.
but i cant believe my eyes when i saw that HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE has got multi touch input method via FIRMWARE UPGRADE. i thought that the multitouch is a hardware feature. is it really possible with just a firmware upgrade. if so, can we expect the wildfire screen resolution to become better with a firmware upgrade. i know even if it is possible, HTC wont do that since it is crushing wildfire for the purpose of wildfire s. i just wanted to know whether screen resolution is a software issue.
and i remember some days back, some guy made a custom rom of wildfire and he said that it has better screen resolution. what does that mean. i dont remember that custom rom name anyway.
and is it possible to improve the screen resolution a little bit, retaining the same 4:3 aspect ratio.
guys a few more numb questions if u have patience to answer. later
bharatgaddameedi said:
if so, can we expect the wildfire screen resolution to become better with a firmware upgrade.
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Oh Snap!
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Anyway, I'll still answer your queries:
* It is NOT Possible to have a higher res video recording on the Wildfire, and, as you yourself said, the Wildfire cannot record even 240x320 at 24 fps, why would you want to increase the resolution? I think, you have been said that 10 times in this thread about this, and, still you are not getting it. I don't know what it will take to make you understand, but whatever.
* Write a Complaint letter to HTC yourself. Why make others write to them for your complaint? Their contact details can be found on their website.
http://www.htc.com/in/CS_Mail.aspx
* As for the N1, it;'s hardware was already ready to have Multi Touch Features, but, it was not provided with the software to support it, for reasons unknown. As I have already given one more example, the Xperia X10 received Multi Touch after its official Eclair Update. Here's another example: Apple's iPod Touches Received Bluetooth Functionality after updating to iOS 3.0. There was no trace of BT before that.
* Additional features can be unlocked by OTA Updates only if they already exist on the hardware. Getting better screen resolution on the Wildfire wont ever be possible, because, the screen (the actual hardware) supports only 240 x 320.
* 3 UK probably made a mistake in their announcement, but, I dont think you have to bring that up 10 times. What they say is not the law, you know.
* The 'Better Screen Resolution' Effect can be achieved by using an app called LCD Density Changer. This ROOT ONLY App however, only provides an effect of an increased resolution by decreasing the size of the UI elements. Your screen resolution remains at 240x320.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.lcd_density_changer
Lastly, I would recommend you read around a bit rather than posting the same thing everytime. All your queries are answered by others elsewhere.
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Oh Snap!
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Anyway, I'll still answer your queries:
* It is NOT Possible to have a higher res video recording on the Wildfire, and, as you yourself said, the Wildfire cannot record even 240x320 at 24 fps, why would you want to increase the resolution? I think, you have been said that 10 times in this thread about this, and, still you are not getting it. I don't know what it will take to make you understand, but whatever.
* Write a Complaint letter to HTC yourself. Why make others write to them for your complaint? Their contact details can be found on their website.
http://www.htc.com/in/CS_Mail.aspx
* As for the N1, it;'s hardware was already ready to have Multi Touch Features, but, it was not provided with the software to support it, for reasons unknown. As I have already given one more example, the Xperia X10 received Multi Touch after its official Eclair Update. Here's another example: Apple's iPod Touches Received Bluetooth Functionality after updating to iOS 3.0. There was no trace of BT before that.
* Additional features can be unlocked by OTA Updates only if they already exist on the hardware. Getting better screen resolution on the Wildfire wont ever be possible, because, the screen (the actual hardware) supports only 240 x 320.
* 3 UK probably made a mistake in their announcement, but, I dont think you have to bring that up 10 times. What they say is not the law, you know.
* The 'Better Screen Resolution' Effect can be achieved by using an app called LCD Density Changer. This ROOT ONLY App however, only provides an effect of an increased resolution by decreasing the size of the UI elements. Your screen resolution remains at 240x320.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.lcd_density_changer
Lastly, I would recommend you read around a bit rather than posting the same thing everytime. All your queries are answered by others elsewhere.
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Nothing left to say after that reply... I'd like to clarify about multi touch though, it wasn't included originally due to patent issues with Apple (go figure).
Ah, that explains it, because, I would have expected Google to release with all their features originally intact, unlike Apple. (BT, as stated above, and, the iPod Touch teardown shows a FM Radio also, but, Apple only decides to give it to the Touch v4 )
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if so, can we expect the wildfire screen resolution to become better with a firmware upgrade
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fifarunnerr said:
Did you knew the words "Hardware Limitations"?
That application says:
Best recording quality is 720x420
The camera supports 24 fps.
If you'd like to get 24 fps, use lowest resolution for video capture and it's possible to get 24 fps.
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yes, wildfire gives 24fps when using the lowest resolution.
sorry that i made a wrong post before. at first i have checked that while recording in dim light. it didnt give 24fps. then i checked that while recording in the sunlight at mid afternoon. then it gave me 24fps.
so while checking out the cam quality, one must be dealing in enough good light.
and with 320 x 240 resol it gave me 19fps in mid day sunlight. this will definately be much better option than the above 24 fps low res. thanks
bharatgaddameedi said:
yes, wildfire gives 24fps when using the lowest resolution.
sorry that i made a wrong post before. at first i have checked that while recording in dim light. it didnt give 24fps. then i checked that while recording in the sunlight at mid afternoon. then it gave me 24fps.
so while checking out the cam quality, one must be dealing in enough good light.
and with 320 x 240 resol it gave me 19fps in mid day sunlight. this will definately be much better option than the above 24 fps low res. thanks
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lol. even good cameras have trouble in low light many a time. meh.
3xeno said:
* Write a Complaint letter to HTC yourself. Why make others write to them for your complaint? Their contact details can be found on their website.
http://www.htc.com/in/CS_Mail.aspx
* As for the N1, it;'s hardware was already ready to have Multi Touch Features, but, it was not provided with the software to support it, for reasons unknown. As I have already given one more example, the Xperia X10 received Multi Touch after its official Eclair Update. Here's another example: Apple's iPod Touches Received Bluetooth Functionality after updating to iOS 3.0. There was no trace of BT before that.
* Additional features can be unlocked by OTA Updates only if they already exist on the hardware. Getting better screen resolution on the Wildfire wont ever be possible, because, the screen (the actual hardware) supports only 240 x 320.
* The 'Better Screen Resolution' Effect can be achieved by using an app called LCD Density Changer. This ROOT ONLY App however, only provides an effect of an increased resolution by decreasing the size of the UI elements. Your screen resolution remains at 240x320.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.lcd_density_changer
Lastly, I would recommend you read around a bit rather than posting the same thing everytime. All your queries are answered by others elsewhere.
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*anyhow i would not make an attempt to write to htc, as i dont have confidence in them that they will do something for wildfire.
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*wow, great explanation. and its really painful to hear that manufacturers are releasing their phone models with hardware features locked. This makes me to think about the ATI DESKTOP GRAPHIC CARDS (radeon hd 4xxx series) which have the hardware features like PARALLEL PROCESSING and etc which are lately enabled via software updates.
but how can we know about locked features, if a phone is released with hardware features locked.
*ok. the actual hardware of wildfire has screen resol., 320 x 240, and no locked feature here. this explains great.
*and regarding that app LCD DENSITY CHANGER , i dont actually need it. because i feel that the screen clarity is much better (excluding the resolution issue here). watching videos, browsing and other things are really nice. i just thought of the resolution issue just because to improve the video recording which is not possible as i believe for now.
yes i will search the camera related things on xda.
so, here we know that, "when compared to other 5 MP camera phones wildfire has one of the lowest grade camera".
so, sticking to the rules, i quit the discussion.
EDIT: i cannot use that lcd density changer app now even if im willing to. because im on official froyo and it is a root only app. would try that and check after getting rooted.