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RADIO Version-problem (from Moscow-Russia)

Which version of Radiosteck will be better in Moscow-Operator Beeline (900/1800)? Today is 4.21.00 by O2. But it is not so sensitive-Nokia N-Gage was on 100% better
Sorry for terrible English

spaceball said:
Which version of Radiosteck will be better in Moscow-Operator Beeline (900/1800)? Today is 4.21.00 by O2.
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I think you can't do nothing. Or try at your won risk the latest Radio stack for T-Mo from yorch.net Just for your info: O2 with RS you mentioned is working perfectly on MTS. As my T-Mo ibidem ;-)

I think the best for 900/1800 MHz is the Qtek 3.25.01 ... but yes it's risky to update the RSU if not REALLY needed ... the O2 4.21 showed to be the most nightmare for all RSU upgrades.

4.21.00-working good in Moscow-but only with MTS
Beeline missed network from time to time-it is feature of their equipment
With I-Mate PPC (XDA-2) its allright :twisted:

spaceball said:
4.21.00-working good in Moscow-but only with MTS
Beeline missed network from time to time-it is feature of their equipment
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May be you're right. BTW, on my T-Mo configs any band (800 or 1800) aren't selected

is TyTN compatible in Japan ?

I have a question for all japan Xda-dev's : does the TyTN work in Japan ( I will be in Tokyo next week) or do I have to leave it at home ?
is the FOMA of NTT (or VODAFONE umts) compatible with this phone ?
thanks to all

yes. i believe it works with docomo's network. the HTC TyTN is GSM/WCDMA and since japan's network is WCDMA, it should work there. I alse believe that Japan is selling the TyTN as the HTC Z in Docomo's network.
Take a read here:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12144-Wireless+Japan:+hTc+Z+from+DoCoMo.html

I am really using Dopod CHT9000 (Taiwan version of Hermes) in Japan.
I have confirmed that it can work completely with Japan's W-CDMA 3G networks, both NTT DoCoMo and Vodafone Japan (FYI, its name will be changed as Softbank from Oct 1).

thank you all, and this is the official HTC reply to my question
Dear Lorenzo
Yes the HTC TyTN is fully compatable with the Japanese networks. We also supply phones to Japan and have many satisfied customers there.
Yours sincerely
Dan Mackie
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

I would be careful my XDA EXEC only works on Vodafone because docomo base stations are a mixture of R99 and R4 (Standard)
Unless they are upgraded the stations or the Radio firmware on the Tytn you may have problems if you use DoCoMo on a non japanese Tytn
XDA thread on this :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47529&highlight=
Also it's going to be pricey to run since Vodafone or docomo doesn't have capped price plans (i.e all you can eat)
They do offer discount plans but they are still damm pricey ( I'm using a PDA and a PHS card because of this)
Rob

I am using Dopod9000 with a FOMA sim card, working perfectly for both voice and data. I used to go with Vodafone which is really expensive for data but Docomo is getting affordable, it can be close to 10,000 yen a month like what Willcom (phs) can offer.

Dug my Exec from the back of the cupboard last night and tried the FOMA simm from my work phone
Still doesn't work on DoCoMo which radio version has your phone got on it ?( Setting--> system ---> device info)
Thanks
Rob

hi all
i like to know if i can use au sim card in japan? whit my tynt ?
i have a contract whit au i don't live in japan nut i come every 3 month in tokyo
for business i just get on in hong kong and i was wondering if i can use on au network

two xperia's infront of me :)

In a last-ditch attempt to get one garanteed delivery before the weekend, I ordered two xperia's, one from the UK and one from a US reseller (selling european X1i's nonetheless).
My question is this: my 3g band isn't supported (rogers) and I was wondering if the US version will use the same radio chip and what are the possibilities of getting an update which will enable this additional band (US1?)?
Thanks!

tg989 said:
In a last-ditch attempt to get one garanteed delivery before the weekend, I ordered two xperia's, one from the UK and one from a US reseller (selling european X1i's nonetheless).
My question is this: my 3g band isn't supported (rogers) and I was wondering if the US version will use the same radio chip and what are the possibilities of getting an update which will enable this additional band (US1?)?
Thanks!
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Read this a couple of times, was a tad confused!
Are you in the UK or US ?
Which version of the X1 does not have 3G? or are you saying you don't get 3G signal where you are?
Who is Roger?

tg989 said:
My question is this: my 3g band isn't supported (rogers) and I was wondering if the US version will use the same radio chip and what are the possibilities of getting an update which will enable this additional band (US1?)?
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Answered several times already. The X1i does not have 850MHz UMTS. No one has managed to get a radio ROM on any HTC device to bring over the UMTS frequencies.
If you want it to work on 850 you'll need the X1a

artesea said:
Answered several times already. The X1i does not have 850MHz UMTS. No one has managed to get a radio ROM on any HTC device to bring over the UMTS frequencies.
If you want it to work on 850 you'll need the X1a
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so x1a rom on an x1i will not work to enable UMTS 850?? are there any links to x1a roms? I thought it wasn't even released yet...
Had this same problem with an omnia AND an n96 now its starting to get to me with the xperia since I really wanted this phone ;\

The OS rom has nothing to with the radio. It may add some options to radio settings, but it does not change the radio itself. The only practical difference is it may or may not make WM faster.
You can flash an X1a radio rom onto an X1i, but it still will not enable UMTS 850. The two radios are physically different (whether it's the microcode or the whole chip), and cannot be changed via software/rom flash. So many people have been trying with the Diamond, Raphael, etc, all unsuccessful; no reason to believe it will be any different with the X1. The only practical difference is it may or may not improve battery life and/or reception.
The X1a is the only one with a UMTS 850-capable radio chip, so if you need UMTS 850 your only option is the X1a.

fhsieh said:
The OS rom has nothing to with the radio. It may add some options to radio settings, but it does not change the radio itself. The only practical difference is it may or may not make WM faster.
You can flash an X1a radio rom onto an X1i, but it still will not enable UMTS 850. The two radios are physically different (whether it's the microcode or the whole chip), and cannot be changed via software/rom flash. So many people have been trying with the Diamond, Raphael, etc, all unsuccessful; no reason to believe it will be any different with the X1. The only practical difference is it may or may not improve battery life and/or reception.
The X1a is the only one with a UMTS 850-capable radio chip, so if you need UMTS 850 your only option is the X1a.
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Ok, so its a different radio chip... I remember the omnia i900 and i907 had identical radio chips as per specs but the former had the 850 disabled. Was hoping sony made the hardware identical and only differed on the radio rom.
Thanks for clearing it up
Anybody want two xperias?

I'd like a black X1i, but only if I can find someone willing to buy my TPro

Anyone can dump their Telstra rom here to share?

Anyone can dump their Telstra rom here to share, that would be great for people who are in Canada using Touch HD, Thanks.
I just tried...
"Even Flashed the Telstra rom, still cant get the 850 3G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" but
the display of model have changed from T8282 to T8285

You can get it from the htc website..
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2

That is different

finer6 said:
You can get it from the htc website..
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=2
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that is different

Really? I am running this rom and it has telstra all over it... pretty restrictive to be honest

that's because you have to put your devices serial number and it picks the best ROM suited to the device. I have "RUU_BlackStone_Telstra_WWE_1.21.841.1_Radio_52.57.25.30_1.10.25.25_Ship.exe" version if your interested? I'll provide a download link when I get home from work...

Excuse my ignorance...but why would you want a telstra ROM in Canada?

Puzz said:
Excuse my ignorance...but why would you want a telstra ROM in Canada?
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People are hoping that the Telstra model will work with North American 3G, and that there's some way to extract that functionality via software.
I have yet to hear a consensus on whether it's possible or not, though. One poster will say that without a doubt it's impossible, that lack of 3G is 100% hardware based, and another will say that is most definitely is a software/radio ROM issue.
I can't wait for some sort of verdict.

i know what u mean if it aint the t8285 model it won't work with 850 umts...
heres a link to the rom anyway guys... http://dutch7.com/blackstone

850 on hd t8282
I'm not sure how or waht the difference is between 8282 and 8285. However, I have a 8282 bought in Australia from, I believe, a reputable firm. While it didn't come with the Telstra Rom it was advertised as being NextG compatable. I get full download speed (compared to my Diamond) and the H symbol is showing most of the time. I had always thought that the 850 compatability was more to do with Radio's than hardware. Especially when this phone has been sold in both markets for a while now. But maybe I'm just imagining the speed. The HD is not yet as good as the Diamond indoors out on the fringes of Melbourne where I live. But it is as good as most Nokias.

well i guess testing it wont hurt. i would want to give it a try too.

iandg said:
I'm not sure how or waht the difference is between 8282 and 8285. However, I have a 8282 bought in Australia from, I believe, a reputable firm. While it didn't come with the Telstra Rom it was advertised as being NextG compatable. I get full download speed (compared to my Diamond) and the H symbol is showing most of the time. I had always thought that the 850 compatability was more to do with Radio's than hardware. Especially when this phone has been sold in both markets for a while now. But maybe I'm just imagining the speed. The HD is not yet as good as the Diamond indoors out on the fringes of Melbourne where I live. But it is as good as most Nokias.
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Yours originally is T8285 but they flashed the T8282 rom, thats why it shows that is T8282.
My phone is T8282 after i flashed the Telstra rom it become T8285.....but still not compatible of the NextG

The "H" is HSDPA and isnt 850 dependant. Just means that it goes to 7.2/2.0 which again isnt 850 dependant. NextG, like North America is 850mhz. You can have HSDPA on any 3G network (Optus, 3, Voda etc) which use 1800/2100 if im not mistaken?
8285 is the NextG/850 version. Nearly all Telstra-sold phones are 850 versions. Have to be very careful as they have different Radio Hardware

All T-Mobile HD2s the same?

Hi everyone!
i'd ask a question important for me : I will buy a HD2 but u know there are two versions of it. U.S. T-Mobile ones are better in ram and rom. But are all the T-Mobile ones the same in hardware? May i trust to buy if it has "T-Mobile" logo on it?

I'm the owner of a T-Mobile branded HD2 but not the T-Mobile US version.
As far as I know only T-Mobile US version has the T-Mobile logo on top and red and green buttons on bottom.
See my post on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16683539&postcount=9
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Just to complete the list: there are more versions of the HD2 than two and memory isn't the only difference.
1. T-Mobile US PB81120 (more memory for T-Mobile requirements and for USA specialized radio chipset)
2. European HD2 PB81100 or T8585 (specialized radio chipset for Europe)
3. Asia/Pacific HD2 PB81110 or T9193 (specialized radio chipset for Asia/Pacific)
4. Chinese HD2 T9188 aka Tianxi (with specialized radio chipset for China and design adjustments)
5. Dopod HD2 T8588 (identical to T8585 apart from dopod logo)
EDIT: my advise: to use the full potential of a HD2 in Europe I would like to recommend a European HD2 T8585 because of the used radio chipsets for data transfer.

Thanks for your info. I didn't know about these differences. Then i have another question : Is t-mobile u.s. version much faster than europe hd2 version? It has more ram than europe and so it is faster but can we see that difference while using phone for exlaying games etc..?

I can't say if it's really faster, because I haven't seen a T-Mobile US HD2 live.
Maybe there is a review on youtube...
I'm not unhappy with my HD2's speed.

RAM can be equal on all HD2 models via supporting ROM & radio version. US T-Mo has 1GB of ROM which is a big bonus.
Main concern is radio bands are different also a third Telstra model can be thrown into the varient equasion in this respect.

Speed is important for me so u.s. version seems closer to me although i am in europe. My another question is : What varies when radio bands are different? What kind of problem may occur because of this variety? Does anyone know?

3G/UMTS radio frequencies used in USA are different to frequencies used in Europe.
Therefore the radio chipset is different.
Problem: GPRS data transfer speed (114kbit/s) instead of 3G/UMTS data transfer speed (7,2Mbit/s) if you use a T-Mobile US model in Europe.
Don't let me be missunderstood, this is not a general problem.
It depends on the network operator and which technique is used in various areas if this problem occures.
Who can say which network operator is using which technique in which area? Perhaps there is a problem.

I own the US T-Mo & have yet to have any issue with 3G on any provider I have used in UK Europe & Asia Pacific.
As for performance at gaming they will all be the same but with the larger ROM storage you can install more softwares directly to your device.
If you are a gamer I assume you will be going Android ! so if that is the case you would probably be best getting a dedicated android device that is newer in terms of hardware & doesn't suffer from some of the Android HD2 porting issues ...

uli71 said:
3G/UMTS radio frequencies used in USA are different to frequencies used in Europe.
Therefore the radio chipset is different.
Problem: GPRS data transfer speed (114kbit/s) instead of 3G/UMTS data transfer speed (7,2Mbit/s) if you use a T-Mobile US model in Europe.
Don't let me be missunderstood, this is not a general problem.
It depends on the network operator and which technique is used in various areas if this problem occures.
Who can say which network operator is using which technique in which area? Perhaps there is a problem.
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Woouww that is a big big bigg problem if true.. I use up to 7.2 mbps and i cant bear slow internet So i'm afraid i will have to buy europe version if that problem is true..
Mister B; What is your internet speed with t-mobile version in Europe? And of course i am going to be going android because I already fed up with winmo 6.5 while using touch HD So u say gaming performance the same in two versions, only rom may be problem. i think rom is not a problem if ram isn't Thanks..