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TomTom - I give in!

Hi all - great forum. Hoping to be around for good while soaking it all up.
I'm a new owner of an SPVM5000. Loving it with Opera and running it on WiFi with Terminal Services.
Proper happy with it - but, I want to get TomTom working on it.
I've downloaded all manner of pirate copies/maps etc, simply because I don't know if it works and wanted to try it first - and more specifically, know which version to buy..
I mean, once I know what works, I'll go and buy the thing from somewhere but, as yet, I can't get it working. Am I missing something glaringly obvious? I keep getting a "No Maps Found" error.
Anyway, Google tells me this is doable and I'm not looking for piracy tips, just a nod as to what version will work and perhaps the cheapest place to get it from if there's anywhere else than TomTom's naff site.
Ideally, I'd love to chuck some credit card details somewhere and get a legit download for it that I can put onto the SD card and away we go, but I think I might be pushing it - it's all boxed goods I think?
Any help for one of your older members, I'd be very grateful.
Cheers!

Hello there,
I have Navigator version 6 running very successfully on my SPVM5000.
A couple of things to check.
1. Is your memory card inserted? tomtom needs this, as the maps will be stored on it.
2. The maps are stored in a folder on the root level of the storage card.
The name of the folder depends on what geographical version you have.
Being in the UK my folder is Western_Europe. Inside the folder you are looking for 3 files. cline.dat, cname.dat and cnode.dat. They are the map files. If they are not there you have been given no maps!!
Hope this helps.

Hi - thanks for the reply.
I've followed the guide on here to change the registry for the GPS options and now if you say TT6 works, I can go with that. I had read TT5 is quicker so that's an option too I guess.
Yeah, the maps have the filenames you mention there and they were on the root of the storage card in a folder named Great-Britain-Map
Cheers.

mail me with details, i have the instructions for spv m5000 installation of tomtom

Thanks - I'm up and running now.

Do you still need a GPS BT Reciever with the Universal? Or does it have built in GPS?
I am new to PDA's and all this malarky.,.,

GPS receiver needed mate.

'' No Maps Found '' error with TomTom Navigator 6 on Mogul / Titan

I have recently installed dcd 2.10 ROM 6.1wm. Since GPS is active now I wanted to try TomTom to see how it works with Mogul. I followed direction and ended up on error where TT say '' No Maps Found ''. I have extensively search this topic across the web, and there are tons of solution recommended to fix this issue. I have tried all of them including uninstalling opera and to move files all over the folders but no luck so far.
However most recommended and most reported working fix is to disable BT explorer. and pretty much everyone recommended to uncheck box in FTP tab from bluetooth setting. but mogul user's problem is... there is no FTP tab.
So here is what I am asking:
1: has anyone sucessfully got TomTom Navigator 6 working on Mogul / Titan with Sprint / DCD windowmobile 6.1 wm6.1 ROM. If so would would care to share your how tos.
2: Does anyone know how to disable BT explorer in Mogul where there is no FTP tab. Perhaps registry setting. Some user has posted working registry setting to disable it but it is for Dell Axim with wm5 and does not apply to Titan (setting does not exist in mogul).
Let me know if you need more info

Looks like you have acquired an illegal copy of TomTom 6.
Xda-developers do not endorse these kinds of illegal activities.
Nonetheless, plz check your pm

I use tomtom6 on my mogul. It works perfectly. The error you are getting is because you probably downloaded the software WITHOUT the maps. The maps for North America alone are just over 1gb. Try actually buying the software and it will work just fine.

I think its hilarious that you went around disabling bluetooth and uninstalling Opera, in order to get your TomTom program to find maps, LOL. As said previously, try buying the software. And if you are going to pirate it, don't trouble others with your problems if you can't figure out how to get it working, even if you are going to bring a bit of levity with your HILARIOUS failed solutions to the forum.

This from peeps who unlock their phones and put cooked roms on it. Now thats funny I don't care who you are...

Mezlo said:
This from peeps who unlock their phones and put cooked roms on it. Now thats funny I don't care who you are...
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stealing a $150 program is a little different than modifying a phone we Paid $200+ for and Own.

ccuser said:
I have recently installed dcd 2.10 ROM 6.1wm. Since GPS is active now I wanted to try TomTom to see how it works with Mogul. I followed direction and ended up on error where TT say '' No Maps Found ''. I have extensively search this topic across the web, and there are tons of solution recommended to fix this issue. I have tried all of them including uninstalling opera and to move files all over the folders but no luck so far.
However most recommended and most reported working fix is to disable BT explorer. and pretty much everyone recommended to uncheck box in FTP tab from bluetooth setting. but mogul user's problem is... there is no FTP tab.
So here is what I am asking:
1: has anyone sucessfully got TomTom Navigator 6 working on Mogul / Titan with Sprint / DCD windowmobile 6.1 wm6.1 ROM. If so would would care to share your how tos.
2: Does anyone know how to disable BT explorer in Mogul where there is no FTP tab. Perhaps registry setting. Some user has posted working registry setting to disable it but it is for Dell Axim with wm5 and does not apply to Titan (setting does not exist in mogul).
Let me know if you need more info
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the reason this is happening to you is because there is a .dat file that tomtom looks for when starting up to point to the map location...it has NOTHING to do with whether youve pirated it or not. this file is/must be located at My Documents/TomTom/CurrentMap.dat. all you need in that file is the directory path to your map. in my case its /Storage Card/USA....(etc, etc) also, the directory slashes are the other way, but im typing this on my mogul and im too lazy to fat-finger the on screen keyboard
also, and this one might be the biggie...your map folder MUST be in the root of your storage card, not nestled within another folder, or a tomtom folder which is what I initially did.

ikemiller2662 said:
stealing a $150 program is a little different than modifying a phone we Paid $200+ for and Own.
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Actually there is no difference. The phones were locked by the providers for a reason. You are cracking their security encryption to gain access to features that were unavailable. With hacked software you are cracking security encryption to gain features that were not available before also. The price you paid for the phone really deosn't matter. With this theory the people that buy their DSS satelite boxes and hack Dishnetork ird's to receive a priated signal are ok because they bought the ird. You and I both know this to be untrue. With all that said I don't believe that you should use hacked software either, I just think that some take a high and mighty stance when a simple "We don't condone or discuss warez here" would be all that is needed. I guess your threshold for crossing the line is the only thing in question here, and we all know why most peeps come to these sights.

Whhhhaaattt!!!!!!!
Mezlo
I for one use this site as an educational tool. So do many other forum members. If you think that we are all "peepers", what are you doing here?
I know for a fact that the programmers from HTC, Moto, LG, etc as well as the major carriers are members of this site directly or by proxy - how do you think they find out where their weaknesses are? How do you think they make their products better? Warez is not my thing but who are you to say????
So please, get off your pedestal and "Peep" your horn somewhere else, maybe at www.Disneyland.com

kmartburrito said:
this file is/must be located at My Documents/TomTom/CurrentMap.dat. all you need in that file is the directory path to your map. in my case its /Storage Card/USA....(etc, etc) also, the directory slashes are the other way
also, and this one might be the biggie...your map folder MUST be in the root of your storage card, not nestled within another folder, or a tomtom folder which is what I initially did.
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Hello,
Still not work, "No Maps found!"
I created a file called CurrentMap.dat that contains my path directory \SDMMC\Calimap and put it in the My Documents\TomTom\ folder. I also had the Calimap folder at the MicroSD card root, which as SDMMC. I don't know what I did wrong.
Can you check your script file CurrentMap.dat for the correct path? Thanks in advance.

ok first off do you actually have maps loaded on your SD card? all i had to do it put the maps on the SD card and TomTom found them right away. (on mine the storage card has a folder called north_america675, in that folder is all the map data)
if you did happen to pirate the software well you should buy it, but if you are content stealing then what you probably did was just download TomTom -- the maps are sperate, about a 1.5GB download, which you would need to put on your card... again if you pirating and you did put the maps on there, i would then guess that you didn't put the patched EXE on your device which allows you to use maps without activation.
Mezlo said:
Actually there is no difference. The phones were locked by the providers for a reason. You are cracking their security encryption to gain access to features that were unavailable. With hacked software you are cracking security encryption to gain features that were not available before also. The price you paid for the phone really deosn't matter. With this theory the people that buy their DSS satelite boxes and hack Dishnetork ird's to receive a priated signal are ok because they bought the ird. You and I both know this to be untrue. With all that said I don't believe that you should use hacked software either, I just think that some take a high and mighty stance when a simple "We don't condone or discuss warez here" would be all that is needed. I guess your threshold for crossing the line is the only thing in question here, and we all know why most peeps come to these sights.
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again i think you are wrong... we aren't gaining access to services that we would normally have to pay for... cracking a dish reciever means you are stealing a service that you would normally pay for. for me at least putting new roms on here is to get GPS, and play around with the phone a bit. I'm not getting any service that i wouldn't normally get, or isn't built into the phone. so i see a big differance. but i digress, because really it doesn't matter either way since we won't change each other's minds.

t99randy said:
Hello,
Still not work, "No Maps found!"
I created a file called CurrentMap.dat that contains my path directory \SDMMC\Calimap and put it in the My Documents\TomTom\ folder. I also had the Calimap folder at the MicroSD card root, which as SDMMC. I don't know what I did wrong.
Can you check your script file CurrentMap.dat for the correct path? Thanks in advance.
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so, your storage card is actually called SDMMC in file explorer?

Also, I think it might be necessary to have the map folder named exactly the same as the map's specific name. I doubt that 'Callimap' is the name of the map, but it might be. I'm not totally sure on this one though, I just know that I was fumbling for a bit to get it out to the root folder. I remember renaming the folder to EXACTLY what the map name was, just to be sure. This could have been the golden ticket and I wasn't even aware at the time. Try that too and see if it helps.

kmartburrito said:
so, your storage card is actually called SDMMC in file explorer?
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Yes, That is correct!

kmartburrito said:
Also, I think it might be necessary to have the map folder named exactly the same as the map's specific name. I doubt that 'Callimap' is the name of the map, but it might be. I'm not totally sure on this one though, I just know that I was fumbling for a bit to get it out to the root folder. I remember renaming the folder to EXACTLY what the map name was, just to be sure. This could have been the golden ticket and I wasn't even aware at the time. Try that too and see if it helps.
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I tried it and still did not work. It must be the activiation code for the map. Even though we put the map at the right location, TomTom would still not load if not correctly activated.

Last rant and I will let this go as I usually just lurk and am content to read and learn (note my post count).
My original point was that instead of popping off about buying the software and not stealing it, one could as alot do just post nothing or a simple we don't condone warez here. If as some do, you put a rom that was not manufactured for your phone (ie an alltel rom on the sprint mogul) because you like the features better, I am sure that that is a form of stealing as the rom was built for alltel phones not sprint carrier phones. By unlocking the phone you have basically cracked it. This debate is the same as the one about taking a pen from work. It is still stealing just not the same as takng $1000.00 out of the safe (installing a $150.00 cracked software). But it is stealing all the same, it is just the degree to which we allow ourselves to think it is ok.
As the post above states the carriers come here to find weakness and to make thier products better. This statement implies that the carriers would want to stop these types of activites or it would not be called a weakness.
I have learned massive amounts of knowledge from this and other sites and also like to tweak my phone ( I use freeware or purchase the programs ) and will contiue to read as I like learning the ins and outs of electronics. I just think that sometimes people are quick to see the speck of sawdust in anothers eye and completely miss the 2X4 hanging out of their own.
end rant.....

the only other thing i can think of is try to use TomTom Home to transfer the maps. it's free and can be found here:
http://www.tomtom.com/plus/service.php?ID=17

Mezlo said:
I just think that sometimes people are quick to see the speck of sawdust in anothers eye and completely miss the 2X4 hanging out of their own.
end rant.....
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The only way you are breaking any rules is if you break your warranty and try to return the phone. I bought this phone and it is mine. If it doesn't work, I now am responsible. I cannot be arrested for modding my phone, but I am voiding my warranty.
P.S. I am not breaking the law by modding my viewsat either, its only when I connect to the 1200 channels do I bend it a little.

serfboreds said:
its only when I connect to the 1200 channels do I bend it a little.
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I like your mode of thinking of "bending it a little"

on my install the map folder needs to be in the root of the SD card, and the name of the map folder is:
USA and Canada 675_1409
Don't know if this helps or not but worth a try

CoPilot Live 8 On Verizon TP2

I posted this in another thread, but I wanted to make sure that it gets seen because this is really frustrating....
I might be just stupid, but I've been trying to get Copilot Live 8 working on my TP2 for about a week now. I bought a 16GB SD card for the main purpose of storing the app and the whole North American map on it. I installed the App and activated it on my phone and downloaded the map via CoPilot Central, but it won't let me transfer it (the button is grayed out). The only thing that I can think of why it doesn't let me transfer is that CPCentral shows me only having 208MB free on my device, when the map is 1.01GB. How can I get it to see the SD card? I found the map files on my PC. Could I just copy them into the SD card? If so, where? I'm seeing something in Program Files and in the root of the card, but I'm not sure.
Anyone who's gotten this working, how did you do it? I reached out to their support yesterday and haven't heard anything back from them.

ok i have copilot 8 north american maps on my touch pro 2...i bought the 32 dollar one since i didnt upgrade. there was no need for me to download any maps into my memory card...all i had done was place the two folders onto my memory card the copilot folder and the 2577 folder and it installed and the maps and all were on there. i didnt have to go and download any other maps from copilot central. but make sure you are connected to your phone through active sync to be able to transfer any files from copilot central. once connected through active sync open up copilot central then log in...once on go to explore my copilot and then click on maps. then once you are there click on maps on my device to make sure you dont already have it installed...it will show up under there if its already installed if not click on maps on my computer then hit the check box under select then click on add to device. you should be good to go.

OK - so I checked the original 2 folders (COPILOT and 2577) and the maps ARE in there.... When you transferred them over, were both of those directories in the root of the card? Or were they in a subfolder? That might be part of my problem. I have a folder called "Apps" that I generally dump all my installers to and I stuck them inside a folder in there... so my path is actually \Storage Card\Apps\Copilot Live\2577
Are yours in the root?

I downloaded the European maps version. I copied across the copilot folder as it was to the SD card, and then copied the cab I needed out of the 2577 folder rather than copying the whole thing.
Works fine

they have to be on the root of the memory card not in any other folders...so it should be \storage card\COPILOT and for the other folder it should be \storage card\2577... both need to be on the root of your memory card and that should work let me know ok

I'm copying the files out now and I'll let you know how it turns out

i was about to tell you to uninstall it and then move the two folders over where they need to be and reinstall it but let me know how it turns out for you

Works! Thanks guys.

your welcome man...i like copilot for the price and i do like the program setup and overall experience too bad it doesnt call out the city names for me

jeebustrain said:
Works! Thanks guys.
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question: I had copilot 7 on mine and the north american maps are way out of date it seems. I've been living in my house for 11 years and my street doesn't even exist on the map. any help?

cyberscribe said:
question: I had copilot 7 on mine and the north american maps are way out of date it seems. I've been living in my house for 11 years and my street doesn't even exist on the map. any help?
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you may want to upgrade to copilot live 8 or download the north american maps im sure those have been updated.

just for grins, I tried to put my house (on a relatively new street, but in an established neighborhood) as a destination on my way home from work. It seemed to work pretty well, but my street wasn't on the map (no surprise, it's not in google maps either), but the existing streets in my neighborhood were all named wrong. Plus, when I just picked a coordinate where my house was, it said that it was in some town that I'd never heard of.
Weird. I'll do some more experiments on it as the week goes just to see how it is. Running this thing sure makes my TP2 hot though.

Do you guys notice choppy framerates in landscape mode and smoothness in portrait? That is my only bug that I've really found with my VZ TP2 and Copilot 8.

cyberscribe said:
question: I had copilot 7 on mine and the north american maps are way out of date it seems. I've been living in my house for 11 years and my street doesn't even exist on the map. any help?
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With CPL8, ALK has introduced the MapSure program; just report map omissions/errors at the linked URL, and they promise a map update within 45 days of their verifying the error.

CoPilot Live 8 on Vz TP2
Bought CPL8 a few weeks ago for my TP2. Live in California but have traveled to LA (different country!), Florida, Nevada, Arizona, and DC. Works great. I have seen a couple of instances where old roads still show up where freeways now break the road up and things like that. Overall it's been a great experience. Certainly an excellent experience for the price. When I was in DC I saw a vertical display that showed where construction and accidents will appear in my route. I really like the tool and would recommend it to anyone. The POIs are very extensive as well. I'll have to try the mapsure thing to make change recommendations. Only con is that the voice levels on the notifications are tool distorted even at the lowest volume setting. It's already had 2 updates completed in the few weeks I've owned. I set it up to do it manually. Seems like they are working to make sure it's current.

Copilot 8 Live - lockscreen / autolock still active in use !!!
Hi All,
I'm using NRGs ROM (see signature below) and just recently loaded CoPilot Live 8, which also works too, but I noticed the lockscreen / autolock still kicks in as you're watching the map, which is not good when I'm driving. Has anyone else noticed this or had this problem? I've contacted CoPilot Support, as I think it's their product, but I'm posting a note here, just in case there's a quick fix or something like that.
Went to CoPilot as I was fed-up with TomTom dragging their damn heals!!

Remove CoPilot

How can I remove CoPilot from my HD2. I don't want to use it and can use the space.

Remove:
\Program Files\CoPilot
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CoPilot.lnk
\Storage Card\COPILOT
I happen to like CoPilot.
As a longtime CPL user, I have been somewhat disappointed in ALK ever since CPL 6, and especially with CPL 7, which was almost a year late, dropped Text to Speech, and had old USA maps. I've been using CPL 6 on my HD. Maybe ALK will finally redeem themselves with CPL 8, considering they plan to offer TTS in a "premium" version later this year. (Interestingly, their iPhoney version has TTS as a standard feature.)

CP8, Maps & TTS
I am considering CoPilot 8. ALK claims they have the latest maps for CP8, but no TTS yet.
Anyone have CP8 that can tell us about the North America maps? I live in Houston.
But I DO like that they don't lock you to a SIM card

You can't remove files from ROM. Period. There's no way to free up space taken by the CoPilot package unless you re-cook a ROM without it. That won't happen until HSPL is out.

vangrieg said:
You can't remove files from ROM. Period. There's no way to free up space taken by the CoPilot package unless you re-cook a ROM without it. That won't happen until HSPL is out.
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100% correct.

vangrieg said:
You can't remove files from ROM. Period. There's no way to free up space taken by the CoPilot package unless you re-cook a ROM without it. That won't happen until HSPL is out.
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90% of CoPilot consists of map data which was included on the bundled 2 GB MicroSD card. That can be permanently removed, and is not a part of ROM.
You can also remove the Program Files of the program and the Start Menu shortcut, to free up NVRAM space and icon clutter, although they will be reinstalled from ROM on a hard reset unless you cook it.
That's what the OP was asking.

If map data was copied from the card to the device then yes, it definitely can be removed. "Removing" ROM files will not free up any space.

The CoPilot executable is installed from ROM at hard reset. The files it installs in \Program Files\CoPilot can be removed after hard reset to free up a tiny amount of space, but they will be reinstalled at hard reset.
The executable exists in ROM as a CAB, and as you say, cannot be removed except by re-cooking the ROM. However, the installed files in \Program Files\CoPilot are not in ROM, and can be removed after hard reset to free some space for the root filesystem.
The map data is preinstalled on the Micro-SD card at manufacturing, but it is not installed by the ROM. If the 1 GB or so of map data on \Storage Card\COPILOT is erased, then there is no way to recover it except to buy maps from ALK, such as by buying the full version.
The CoPilot installed on the Leo is a 15-day trial version, which must be activated with a license key to become the full version. When you buy a license key, you get access to the latest executables and maps.

There is one more thing, much more painful - how to remove system integration with CoPilot?
I'm TomTom user and would be happy to see TT in NaviPanel and use TT (or at least Google Maps) in Footprints.

smartphone.net.pl said:
There is one more thing, much more painful - how to remove system integration with CoPilot?
I'm TomTom user and would be happy to see TT in NaviPanel and use TT (or at least Google Maps) in Footprints.
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Regedit "HKLM\Software\Htc\Navisw", change Value SDKModule to anything else that is not alk dll and footprint integration will revert back to google maps. You will have no Navipanel use for navigation though, as the navigation buttons will be greyed out.

nomc2 said:
Regedit "HKLM\Software\Htc\Navisw", change Value SDKModule to anything else that is not alk dll and footprint integration will revert back to google maps. You will have no Navipanel use for navigation though, as the navigation buttons will be greyed out.
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Nice first step, thx
It would be perfect if we can found replacement compatible with Tomtom or another navi software..
BTW - i have serious doubts if such integration is legal. We paid lot of money for unlocked device and received choice - pay more for Copilot or have crippled functionality. It's unacceptable!

Well I've tried using the tomtom middlelayer dll from older versions of footprints, but it didn't work... i guess someone with programming skills should have a look at those dlls and how they are implemented. I read in another thread on older versions of footprints/navipanel that it would not be so difficult to program one, but that is beyond my capability....

How to remove system integration with CoPilot and replace with another navigation program??
Any ideas for this.
Thanks.

CoPilot is sort of removeable for me. Has nothing to do with the ROM. The files that take the most memory are NOT in Windows-dir. Deleting these gives me almost 30MB free memory. Anyhow I hope for these apps like CoPilot and Google Maps to be normally removeable in forthcoming ROMs. I'd like to put e.g. GMaps on my SD.

another tomtom thread

ok i got the tt black cab7.19
i can install it, bluetooth working
app atarts but no maps
i have aquired maps 8.45 i cannot drag this into the tomtom folder as not enough space reported by phone, even though i installed on mem card which is 2gb empty?
how do i point tom tom at this map pack, i have already traweld these forums for a good 3 hrs but im going round in circles!
am i missing something?

andyfoz said:
ok i got the tt black cab7.19
i can install it, bluetooth working
app atarts but no maps
i have aquired maps 8.45 i cannot drag this into the tomtom folder as not enough space reported by phone, even though i installed on mem card which is 2gb empty?
how do i point tom tom at this map pack, i have already traweld these forums for a good 3 hrs but im going round in circles!
am i missing something?
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Hey, I do not think you have tried tomtom before on other systems, do you?
Anyway, I used tomtom on S60, Palm OS, WinCE4.0(PNA) and WM(PDA)...
All the versions work through the same way. Try to put map folder to your SD card ROOT directory... You do not need to do something to point the tomtom to the map... Acturally it will link the program to its map automatically. Do not worry about that.
Hint, if it says "not enough memory" again, simply use a card reader and do that on your computer.
For the tutoral, try GOOGLE "gpsunderground", as I am not permitted to put external link here...
Hope that helps...

If you have purchased the software and maps, installation is easy. If you have not paid for the software - well, I hope you find it impossible to install...

conan_t said:
Hey, I do not think you have tried tomtom before on other systems, do you?
Anyway, I used tomtom on S60, Palm OS, WinCE4.0(PNA) and WM(PDA)...
All the versions work through the same way. Try to put map folder to your SD card ROOT directory... You do not need to do something to point the tomtom to the map... Acturally it will link the program to its map automatically. Do not worry about that.
Hint, if it says "not enough memory" again, simply use a card reader and do that on your computer.
For the tutoral, try GOOGLE "gpsunderground", as I am not permitted to put external link here...
Hope that helps...
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thank you i will get to it immidiatley!
one other question, does maps 8.45 work with ttn7.19 black cab?