Hi Guys,
I'm posting in the general forum to get a wider audience. I have a x_7510 (Athena 400). I am running xTep's 1.01 ROM.
I have 4GB, 8GB & 16 GB Scandisk Cruser USB Thumb drives. The 4GB is read just fine either via the docking station or the 4 in 1 cable, showing up under File Explorer as "Hard Disk", however, the 8 & 16 GB do not. My notebook reports that the Thumb Drives are formatted FAT32.
On 8/01/08 LTxda reported being able to read a Corsair Voyager Brand 16 GB using the 4-in-1 cable on his 7500 no problem - see post #23 at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357502&highlight=External+Drive&page=3.
Anyone have any ideas on why I'm not able to read the larger capacity drives?
Hi there !
Some brands of thumb drive are not readable no matter what format it is in . You have to buy another brand and make sure you bring along your x7510 fully charged and also the 4 in 1 cable to test before you buy . the same goes to buying keyboard , wired or wireless or bluetooth mouse , trackballs mouse , external hdd and etc... any external / usb device you may think of , bring out x7510 & cable , test first before you buy - it's definitely safer bro . Or maybe fully reformat again your thumb drive once or twice and see what happens , but please copy all your data to your laptop first - ok ? Also plug in the cable and thumb drive and soft reset your x7510 and see what happens . Best of luck to you - jimmunsw
Tested 16GB Kingston Datatraveller and 8GB Sandisk Cruzer with 4in1 cable on a Dopod U1000 (x7501) - both work fine.
I would seriously not consider "formating" your thumb drive unless you really know what you are doing. Unlike flash cards, flash drives can't be formated with the usual software tools e.g. those available through XP or Vista. I learned that the hard way.
As to your problem, I have no idea what is going on - Windows Mobile should not have a problem reading FAT32 volumes. I do recall however that Sandisk Cruzers come with U3, is that enabled or disabled on yours?
Thanks for the input. I have disabled the U3 application, and I have reformatted the 8 & 16 GB drives, but with no success (although the both seem fine after the formatting). I'm wondering if there is something in the Athena 400 set-up that is different from the Athena 100 o/s that could be contributing to this?
hishamh said:
Tested 16GB Kingston Datatraveller and 8GB Sandisk Cruzer with 4in1 cable on a Dopod U1000 (x7501) - both work fine.
I would seriously not consider "formating" your thumb drive unless you really know what you are doing. Unlike flash cards, flash drives can't be formated with the usual software tools e.g. those available through XP or Vista. I learned that the hard way.
As to your problem, I have no idea what is going on - Windows Mobile should not have a problem reading FAT32 volumes. I do recall however that Sandisk Cruzers come with U3, is that enabled or disabled on yours?
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Dear hishamh ,
Have u tried 32gb or 64gb thumbdrive with 4 in 1 cable ?
If yes , what brand please ?
How is the transfer speed ?
Any comment on these big storage thumbdrives ?
Thanks & regards - jimmunsw
I'll let you know - my wife has a 32GB drive, but I'm not in a position to test it right now.
Kingston Datatraveller 150: 32GB
Works fine. I didn't test transfer speeds, but in general you shouldn't expect more than USB1.1 at best. I did play a 700kBps Divx movie off of it - benchmarks with CorePlayer say about 80%+, which is more or less what I expected.
32gb kingston datatravellers 150 thumbdrives
Dear Hishamh ,
Thanks for your kind reply , it is good news to hear that 32gb thumbdrive can be used for our 4in 1 cable , do u have any idea our device can use a microsd with minisd adapter for 32 gb microsd card ? I have checked at low yat , it is still not out yet but in 2 to 3 months time , it maybe out for sale then , and another question is that the 16gb microsd card can be used right ? - Will the usages sapps the battery power - i wonder ? Please enlighten us - thanks for sharing and best regards to u bro ... jimmunsw
Maybe you can try format the TF card with Fat,not Fat32
Ameo 4in1
I don´t understand that the´re people not using ,as I discribed a few times, a HDD 1,8 inch f.e. I´m using a trekstor HDD 120GB. With that combination 4in1 cable I am able to read files with about 15000 KB/s.
Writing is slow 300 KB/s.
It works perfect since a few months.
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Hi People!
Is it Yes or Not possible to hook up a USB hardisk to the HTC Universal (providing the hard disk is powered externaly) to exchange file between the Universla and the Hardisk?
No
I'm sure some day there'll be a way, but dont hold your breath...
So does it have USB host? I thought the previous conclusion was that it didn't come enabled after all?
Why do you want to hook up a drive anyhow? What's wrong with a UNC connection over WiFi?
Why not use a 4GB SD card?
Hi
i use my Toshiba e800 as storage transfer solution of my pictures.
I connect an 80GB usb hardrive to the toshiba and insert my 2gb lexar memories on the CF slot for backup photos on hollidays ....
The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????
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The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????
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No they don't.
We all hope it's just a matter of OS/Drivers and maybe a day in the future an update will give Universal usb host capability.
Roberto
Forget it. Only the CPU supports the USB Host feature. HTC chose not to include the neccessary remaining hardware on the device's mainboard, hence something a driver can never cure.
What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?
Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.
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Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.
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Toshiba 740
Toshiba E800
Toshiba E830
Asus (several models)
Siemens Pocket loox
And several other i don't know by head....
for me it will be the nicest thing in order to use the digicam as a usb drive in order to copy/send pictures
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What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?
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That's what I was alluding to earlier, shouldn't be too long before they're available, I read about them on some website a couple of months ago but I can't find the flippin' link now.
Can't honestly say I'd use that much memory though, 2Gb is enough for me for the forseeable future.
when comparing mb / £ a HDD is the only real solution so far,
especially if you want vga res videos running. SD cards are good but only having 1-4 movies on a 2gb card becomes a pain.
i use a 2.5" hdd in a caddy hardly bigger than the drive, its only a 10gb drive atm as it is all that was avaliable "freely" :wink: , but it is WAY WAY WAY handier than a handful of SD's to ship data around
hdd usb conectivity would only be an interim step in the right direction, when 40gb+ SD type cards are mainstream and can be housed in the universal without ever needing to swap to your "videos" sd or your "music" sd or your "data" sd, then we are approaching the ideal situation.
but we wont get there until the basics are met first.
I would like to set up my Exec to use a external hard drive to access files. Is it possible to connect and use a external hard drive on my PPC?
You can your ppc into a USD memory stick, however there are considerations :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45411
Only managed to do it via wifi. Just for streaming video and music.
You can't connect external drive to universal, because it does not have USB host functionality.
The only way is to connect over WIFi, there is an ASUS WiFi external drive that works like this.
Of course you can use WiFi, UMTS or even BT to connect to your home machine and access stuff or you can use services like Avvenu or ORB for this...
Where could I get a Bluetooth external drive at?
BUMP THAT said:
Where could I get a Bluetooth external drive at?
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To my knowledge you can't.As far as I know there is no BT drives on the market. The only solution is WiFi or internet service.
OK. Thank you. Myabe I can get a WIFI Drive.
We already have 4gb sd cards for little money, 8 gb for a bit more, and 32 gb on the way to market. That's why there are no hard disks for Universal.
tailazoom said:
We already have 4gb sd cards for little money, 8 gb for a bit more, and 32 gb on the way to market. That's why there are no hard disks for Universal.
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I don't think Universal has support for High Capacity SD cards.
"Normal" SD standard only supports sizes up to 2Gb. There are some 4Gb cards that work in some machines (but it's not 100%).
The newer cards are SDHC specification, that is a revision of original SD standard, and your machine has to support SDHC in order to use such cards, unfortunatelly I don't think Universal does support this...
Several members of this forum are using 4gb sd cards with Universal
4gb cards work fine with the universal as it can read FAT32.
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4gb cards work fine with the universal as it can read FAT32.
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This has nothing to do with ability to read FAT32 - as far as I know pretty much any WM device reads FAT32. It has to do with the fact that SD specification goes onlt to 2Gb. There are some 4Gb cards that go around the 2Gb limitation, and you can use these cards in SD capable devices - but it's not guaranteed that such card will work.
The new SDHC cards, are bult with new specification, and you have to have a device capable of reading such cards.
I don't know if Universal, or any other current WM device supports this or if a software patch can help.
Basically what you have to be aware is that if you buy HC card, you sould better test it first in your device, to make sure it will work!
AFAIK Secure Digital High Capacity SDHC is just fat 32 which the UNI has no problem with, the devices that will really struggle are the likes of cameras
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AFAIK Secure Digital High Capacity SDHC is just fat 32 which the UNI has no problem with, the devices that will really struggle are the likes of cameras
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Like I said, I'm not sure if SDHC will work in Universal or any other current WM machine - I would definatelly be carefull.
On the other hand I'm also not sure why FAT32 would be the difference between SD and SDHC, as I had most of my cards formatted with FAT32 since at least my iPAQ in 2003...
Anyhow here is a link with announcement about SDHC, that clearly states 2Gb limit of "normal" SD cards, but no details on technical differences of both specifications.
http://www.sdcard.org/events/SDHC_Release06.pdf
my 4gb works flawless...
but thats also thanks to newer rom (since older roms had the camera problem)
im sure when the 1st 8gb SD cards become available someone will try if it works and we will also know...
if it wont work well in 1st attempt, maybe a rom-update could fix it 8)
This has now gone off topic!!
I spend alot of my time in forums just searching in order not to make usless or double posts in regards to what I require!!
There are threads open already in regards to the high capacity SD cards sao why are they not being used?
In regards to the external hd on universal believe this to be case closed unless someone has something to input about it....actually about it!
This forum is great but unfortunatelly already bad for indexing for search purposes....lets not make it worst.
WBR
My 4gb works fine. Only problem is that I still have the original rom and needed less than 2gb free space for it to work, but then that was why I got a bigger card...
Greets,
I went to my local Verizon store and picked up an 8GB Sandisk MicroSD Card.
The card is recognized by the phone as having 7.7GB free, but when I plug it into my Belkin 15-in-1 reader (via an adapter) to load it up, the Belkin/Computer doesn't see it.
This may be because its SDHC but I can't find ANYTHING out there on this.
Any ideas?
Anyone have a reader they use which has worked with the 8GB SDCH MicroSD in adapter?
Thanks!
I do not own a SDHC card (yet) but I'm pretty sure that the problem is due to your belkin not supporting SDHC.
See the review at the bottom of this page: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-15-1-Microdrive-MMCmobile/dp/B000CDITCQ
Yeah its that 15 and 1 thingy. I bought a 4GB Micro SD card through amazon last week and it came with this.
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Micro...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1196630057&sr=1-1
That should be able to read a 8GB sd card also.
No good ... but all is well
The 15-in-1 doesn't even flash when the card is put in (but flashes fine with my old 512MB).
No biggie - I copied the 512MB to the hard drive, and used EXPLORE in ActiveSync to fill the 8GB (which is now down to 5.3 ... tee hee).
Thanks
SDHC
By reading this thread am I right in understanding that the TyTNII CAN read SDHC? I couldn't find any reference to SDHC in the manual so I thought 2Gb was my limit!
Regards
Andrew
AndrewGlassby said:
By reading this thread am I right in understanding that the TyTNII CAN read SDHC? I couldn't find any reference to SDHC in the manual so I thought 2Gb was my limit!
Regards
Andrew
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Yes...the TYTNII accepts SDHC and the Sandisk 8GB card works flawlessly in the device.
AndrewGlassby said:
By reading this thread am I right in understanding that the TyTNII CAN read SDHC? I couldn't find any reference to SDHC in the manual so I thought 2Gb was my limit!
Regards
Andrew
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it will state SDHC or version 2.0 compliant.
kms
Hotfix for Windows XP that adds support for SDHC cards that have a capacity of more than 4 GB
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934428
EDIT: It appears MSFT has hidden this hotfix from the public. (Thanks, guys.) Here's some details:
http://www.digitmemo.com/articles/219/adding-sdhc-support-for-windows-with-your-old-sd-card-reader/
EDIT2: And for Windows XP English users: http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=1079
EDIT3: For whatever reason, this hotfix has no impact on my inability to read the card via my laptop's built-in card reader. I have a Fujitsu Lifebook Tablet. I have yet to look for drivers on the Fujitsu side.
The drive iteself has to be SDHC compliant, you can load WinXP driers all day and it will never read the card because the drive built into your tablet (or the 15-in-1 as mentioned above) is not SDHC compliant. Just like when they came out with SDIO for mobile devices, you had to had a SD drive in your mobile that was SDIO complaint, if not, you can't use SDIO.
Best bet is to buy the SDHC reader on amazon as mentioned above. Also, this is why all new SDHC cards (by Sandisk) are being sold with card readers.
Then why, as previous posters have stated, are non SDHC complaint drives able to be upgraded? AFAIK, the only reason why SDHC would NOT be supported is because it uses different memory calls. I assume that a new driver would be all that's needed. I don't see why it would be a hardware issue.
I've got 4 card readers, 3 bought prior to SDHC and 1 SDHC (that came with the card). The 3 readers (using WinXP) will not read my 6 gig SDHC card, it seems to be doing something, then craps out. The reader that came with the 6gig card, works like a charm everytime and all 4 are using winxp generic drivers for removable drives, nothing special about the drivers. If I put the same card into my Tilt and and access it via file explorer on the PC, I can read/write all day. Also, the same results on Vista PC.
EDIT: Vista results were slightly different, none of the 4 readers would read/write to the SDHC card. hmmm...
I just thought of something that may support the driver theory. If the card reader is embedded into a laptop or pc then maybe the manufactuer actually put hardware that was upgradeable to SDHC by means of a driver. Then of course the driver update makes sense.
Now, if it is a driver that's all that's needed, I would be a happy camper because I could use my favorite reader again and not have to carry 2 readers.
so im excited to get a 8gb card for my kaiser,so i pop it in and reset...goto memory>storage card NOTHING!pop it out put it in my pc and invalid process!!!WTF?!?!?!help please
Have you tried to format the card from your PC. If that doesn't work you might have a bad card. Sucks but it does happen sometimes.
Also, please remember that these portable handsets are usually not NTFS file format compatible. Be sure when you are formatting that the card is in FAT or FAT32 mode, with default block sizes and allocation.
Also, it does sound to me that your card is defective. I have never had to "format" any flash cards I have ever bought before using them, except a couple old CF cards for my SLR camera.
I got a sandisk 8gb microsdhc myself - and it works great...
(except when one morning I wake up and find out that all the data's gone, and had to recover it with GetDataBack)
I'm no SDHC expert (I've only had 1 for 2 weeks) but I ran into some problems myself...
1) If you're running Win XP on your desktop, you'll need to download the hotfix for SDHC support here (I don't use Vista so I'm not sure if it supports SDHC natively)
2) The card reader I have connected to my PC wouldn't read SDHC cards but the USB reader that came with my SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card does work. Make sure the adapter you're using to connect to the PC supports SDHC.
3) Sounds stupid but make sure you're pushing the card all the way into your phone. You should feel some spring pressure and then hear a 'click' as it locks into place. You push it in and it springs out to remove it. I have pretty big fingers and I didn't insert mine all the way the first time. I still have to use something small (the back end of the stylus) to fully insert my SDHC card.
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You may have a faulty card
mine work!!
s0undw4v3 said:
I got a sandisk 8gb microsdhc myself - and it works great...
(except when one morning I wake up and find out that all the data's gone, and had to recover it with GetDataBack)
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well..... i got the same MC sandick an dno problems witing...
Here is the WinXP SDHC Update if you don't want to d/l it from the MS Site.
I have a 8GB SDHC Sandisk. I formated as FAT32 winXP SP2 updated and it works perfect on my tytn II and as a pendrive (with the usb adapter included)
thanx for the help guys but i think i have a bad card...
sorry if you've got a bad card . i scored mine (8gb - sandisk microsdhc) off ebay for $45.00. works flawlessly!
I have just copied all of the contents of my 4gb card onto a new 8gb card, no problems so far, but when I put it back into my Kaiser, the volume only shows as a 4 gb, with 1 gb free, which are he details of the old card, any help greatly appreciated
thanks
Trev
Hi guys,
I've searched and cannot find anything,
I have recently become the owner of the LG G2 (Great machine) And I purchased an external USB OTG device that allows
me to plug in external USB drives.
The 8Gb that came with it works fine (Small thumb-drive style)
The 16Gb (same small style, Kingston DT Micro).
The 16Gb Kingston reads fine in PC but does nothing in the OTG.
Both are formatted to FAT32....
Have I done something stupid or missed something obvious.
any help would be most appreciated.
Regards,
JW
Johnny_w said:
Hi guys,
I've searched and cannot find anything,
I have recently become the owner of the LG G2 (Great machine) And I purchased an external USB OTG device that allows
me to plug in external USB drives.
The 8Gb that came with it works fine (Small thumb-drive style)
The 16Gb (same small style, Kingston DT Micro).
The 16Gb Kingston reads fine in PC but does nothing in the OTG.
Both are formatted to FAT32....
Have I done something stupid or missed something obvious.
any help would be most appreciated.
Regards,
JW
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I have the 16GB type exactly this one, works fine. No problems whatsoever. Well its incredibly slow in this age... I like my meenova with 32GB SD better .
Either you have done something wrong in the FS. Try again to format it to FAT32 then. Not sure what stock supports, try also exFAT or NTFS. Also try to jiggle it? More times inside outside, inside outside.
Or the drive is bugged. Does it work normally everywhere? Try to copy data on it.
EDIT: Also remembered I do have 2 OTG cables, and with one of those, the drive needed some persuasion.
Thanks Pagot.
The 16Gb USB works in everything *except* the G2.
Other 16Gb larger usb drives work in the G2.
So I have no idea!!!!
I've formatted the original 16Gb card to everything and it's mum and nothing. Oh well - I'll just get another one as I'm out of ideas.
Thanks for your help
JW