Word prediction - Touch 3G General

I found that with windows keyboard doesn't work word prediction. Is there any solution?

plvigo said:
I found that with windows keyboard doesn't work word prediction. Is there any solution?
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You mean word completion? Is it turned on ?
Settings - Personal - Input - T9 Settings

azahidi said:
You mean word completion? Is it turned on ?
Settings - Personal - Input - T9 Settings
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Yes, in Personal, Imput, Keyboard, is checked "Suggest words when entering text" and all the other setting are checked as well!
Any suggestions??

plvigo said:
Yes, in Personal, Imput, Keyboard, is checked "Suggest words when entering text" and all the other setting are checked as well! Any suggestions??
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If all are checked then it should work, on all that requires text input except "notes". Try input a new (strange) word and save and input again to see if its recognised and retrieved. If it does that means it functions but something is wrongs with the lib.

azahidi said:
If all are checked then it should work, on all that requires text input except "notes". Try input a new (strange) word and save and input again to see if its recognised and retrieved. If it does that means it functions but something is wrongs with the lib.
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I tried but still doesn't work! Very strange, also because in the other keyboard (Phone Keypad, Compact QWERTY and Full QWERTY) everything is ok!

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PhonePad as Default input method

Hi,
when I don't use the Hardware Keyboard I always use PhonePad as input method. The question is: is there a way to set PhonePad as default software input method? Everytime I make a softreset the standard keyboard come back!
Thanks
how do you get rid of your standard keyboard? i installed nullkb and it won't work and the annoying SIP pops up when browsing the internet in landscape mode.
Kostia said:
is there a way to set PhonePad as default software input method?
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Check out:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Hacks
"Tweaking input method"
fone_fanatic said:
how do you get rid of your standard keyboard? i installed nullkb and it won't work and the annoying SIP pops up when browsing the internet in landscape mode.
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is the Null Keyboad one of the keyboard options when you open the little SIP menu?
If not - try installing again, you may need a soft reboot after installing
ZeBoxx said:
Kostia said:
is there a way to set PhonePad as default software input method?
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Check out:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Hacks
"Tweaking input method"
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Thanks!

No word completion pop-up

I've become the proud owner of a Touch HD just yesterday. The thing I find oddest about it so far is that I don't get any word completion pop-ups as I enter text. I'm not talking about just the HTC-specific input methods either; it doesn't happen even when I use the Letter Recognizer or the standard Windows Mobile keyboard.
I've turned on all options I could find that looked remotely related to this, and I have yet to see a single word completion pop-up since I got this device. Am I missing something or are those pop-ups not available on this device for some reason?
guney said:
I've become the proud owner of a Touch HD just yesterday. The thing I find oddest about it so far is that I don't get any word completion pop-ups as I enter text. I'm not talking about just the HTC-specific input methods either; it doesn't happen even when I use the Letter Recognizer or the standard Windows Mobile keyboard.
I've turned on all options I could find that looked remotely related to this, and I have yet to see a single word completion pop-up since I got this device. Am I missing something or are those pop-ups not available on this device for some reason?
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i can't speak for all methods, but i always use HTC's FULL QWERTY, you just need to "flick the switch" from "ABC" to "T9", this switch is somewhere to the left of the space bar. hope that helps
buggybug0 said:
i can't speak for all methods, but i always use HTC's FULL QWERTY, you just need to "flick the switch" from "ABC" to "T9", this switch is somewhere to the left of the space bar. hope that helps
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Thanks. Just tried it, but that's not what I'm talking about. If you haven't used another Windows Mobile device before (and Palms using graffitti used to have this too, I think), you might not have seen this, but when writing on the keyboard or letter recognizer (or block recognizer), WM pops up a menu of completion options after you type in one or a few letters (depending on your settings). For example, if you type "ob" you might get a list that contains "obese, obstruct, obvious"; and when you add a "v" to make it "obv", the list would refresh to show "obviate, obvious", etc.
What you've described to me is just the T9 guessing mechanism, which always suggests options with the same number of letters as the number of keys you've typed to that point. It only makes sense when there is more than one letter per key, so that, when you type, say, a sequence of three keys, there is ambiguity in which combination of the multiple letters on each of those three keys you might have meant, and the device shows you options of these combinations to pick from.
Incidentally (and this may sound pedantic, but), for that same reason, I don't see any point in using the T9 setting with the full QWERTY keyboard as you suggest, since there is no such ambiguity and the option that you'll see suggested is precisely what you've typed anyway.
If you've seen the other kind of completion options (i.e., "complete words for partial typing") let me know...
guney said:
What you've described to me is just the T9 guessing mechanism, which always suggests options with the same number of letters as the number of keys you've typed to that point.
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I'm sorry. I noticed that what I typed above wasn't correct.
I wasn't seeing full word completion suggestions in response to partially typed in words in T9 mode because I had the "word completion in T9 mode" option under "T9 Settings" disabled. Enabling it does provide full word completion suggestions after typing only a couple of keys. I stand corrected.
On the other hand, that's still not what I'm looking for, because that only provides a couple of options displayed horizontally on one line. You can't fit many word options onto that line. (At least not the longer ones.) I'd like to see the standard Windows Mobile behavior of popping up a menu of vertically stacked completion options where you may be presented with up to four selections of any length (sometimes including even multi-word completion options). The HTC-specific input methods with their own peculiar completion behavior are fine by me, but I don't understand why I don't still have the default Windows Mobile completion behavior when I switch to one of the standard Windows Mobile input methods!
Actually, even the HTC-specific input behavior is a little screwy. There's also a "word completion in ABC mode" option under T9 Settings, but even when I enable that, I get no word completion options after switching to ABC mode in the compact QWERTY or full QWERTY input methods...
A few things definitely seem wrong with word completion behavior on the Touch HD. I just hope someone here might have enough insight into the matter to know of a fix or workaround...
guney said:
Actually, even the HTC-specific input behavior is a little screwy. There's also a "word completion in ABC mode" option under T9 Settings, but even when I enable that, I get no word completion options after switching to ABC mode in the compact QWERTY or full QWERTY input methods...
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Scratch that... I've seen this work now too. I suppose it was a little stubborn, or needed a close-and-reopen of the keyboard first...
In any case, my original issue still stands: I'm looking for the "plain old" Windows Mobile word completion suggestion pop-up when using letter recognizer or the standard keyboard, with the vertical list, which fits more options of longer words.
If anyone knows of its whereabouts, please chime in!
guney said:
A few things definitely seem wrong with word completion behavior on the Touch HD. I just hope someone here might have enough insight into the matter to know of a fix or workaround...
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I was about to start a post just like yours..I've enabled word completion but I don't see anything. Also, when I open the tool Dictionary Editor I don't see any suggested words at all. And when I add one or two of my own, it still don't work. There must be someone who knows more about this issue ???
bump...this would be helpful
also, does anyone know how to make it so T9 starts suggesting words after typing only 1 letter?
Copied from the Diamond Forum ...
beemerTPPC said:
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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... this should fix the problem. Kudos to beemerTPPC.
Gave to above a go, but found those settings were already there!
But strangely, after a couple of soft off/ons the letter recogniser, block recogniser, standard keyboard and SPB keyboard all have word completion.
The HTC offerings are weirdly different;
The full qwerty only offers word completion when you type the first three letters of a word then hit backspace to delete the last character typed. The same happens with the compact qwerty and phone keypad, but rather madly they will not let me type letters at all... only numbers... very odd!
The above solution enables me to have the Word Completion popup witth the following keyboards: 'keyboard' and 'block recognizer' and 'letter recognizer'.
It is not supported with the 'Full QWERTY' (my main keyboard).It removed the T9 completion that was there (and was not adequet). Now I cannnot use both ABC and T9 modes.
Is there a way to have both the T9 and the word complete popup, or at least the latter (the ppopup word complete) when in ABC mode on the 'Full QWERTY' keybord?
Please advice
Thanks
gadgetuk437 said:
Gave to above a go, but found those settings were already there!
But strangely, after a couple of soft off/ons the letter recogniser, block recogniser, standard keyboard and SPB keyboard all have word completion.
The HTC offerings are weirdly different;
The full qwerty only offers word completion when you type the first three letters of a word then hit backspace to delete the last character typed. The same happens with the compact qwerty and phone keypad, but rather madly they will not let me type letters at all... only numbers... very odd!
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I am in the same boat as you
How are you going with this Monkey of a problem?
Ive tried everything.
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Run HD Tweak
20. Keyboard (SIP)
20.2 T9 Mode
set it to Disabled
Soft reset
HTH

Prediction / Spell correction / word completion

(Disclaimer to the Mods: I know there are some threads about changing the htc_ime etc, but these are not the same subject)
When I uncheck spell correction / word completion in the input options of touch input and prediction is checked, I still get a kind of autocorrection with some words. I am unable to input a small "i" and "im" is always transformed to "I'm".
As far as I know, there is no german dictionnary for the jf / cm builds yet. So I use the english dictionnary and try to save almost every word I use, so that the phone learns german. I don't understand why I can't tell the phone to accept "i" and "im"???
Any help? Maybe help with german dictionnary for prediction and auto correct?
Try unchecking the settings in device keyboard. Maybe its linked to it in a way
Everything is unchecked, I even did a reboot to be sure there is nothing left somewhere. The only thing that is checked, is prediction
sputnik99 said:
Everything is unchecked, I even did a reboot to be sure there is nothing left somewhere. The only thing that is checked, is prediction
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Well... did you... try to uncheck it... ?
RPG0 said:
Well... did you... try to uncheck it... ?
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very funny!
In my understanding of the different options prediction is just a proposal you can use ore not use.
spell correction, word completion, auto-capitalization and quick fixes (android keyboard) are automatically done.
So if you just check the prediction everything should be fine. Aside from that, it should be possible to enter a new word to teach the phone a new spelling. Try to enter a single small "i" or "im". You won't succeed. Of course I could uncheck everything, but then there is no chance that some day I could use the prediction with my own entered words.
sputnik99 said:
very funny!
In my understanding of the different options prediction is just a proposal you can use ore not use.
spell correction, word completion, auto-capitalization and quick fixes (android keyboard) are automatically done.
So if you just check the prediction everything should be fine. Aside from that, it should be possible to enter a new word to teach the phone a new spelling. Try to enter a single small "i" or "im". You won't succeed. Of course I could uncheck everything, but then there is no chance that some day I could use the prediction with my own entered words.
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If you're talking about the HTC keyboard, they're idiots.
If you're talking about the google keyboard... i have all the options unchecked, and i can type"i" and "im" both on the software keyboard and on the hardware one.
interesting to know. so it is a htc ime issue. yes I am talking about the htc one.

Dictionary when using hardware keyboard?

I love that my dictionary corrects my mistakes when I type on the screen, it also suggests words that I could use instead, etc.
But the dictionary doesn't show at all when I use the hardware keyboard, why is that? Is there any modification which brings up the dictionary when you use the hardware keyboard as well?
Thanks!
the HK does autocorrect, but I don't think there's any option for suggested words outside of the VK.
TouchPal (just look in the market) will enable it for the HW keyboard. Just make sure to check "Word Prediction" in the options.
blyn100 said:
TouchPal (just look in the market) will enable it for the HW keyboard. Just make sure to check "Word Prediction" in the options.
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Nice! That actually worked. Thanks a lot!

Copy/Paste???

how do i copy/paste into a text box? i have my wireless security key in a text file and can select/copy it to clipboard, but cannot work out how to paste into the wireless settings key input text box. the keyboard has no ctrl key for ctrl+v.
codhunter said:
how do i copy/paste into a text box? i have my wireless security key in a text file and can select/copy it to clipboard, but cannot work out how to paste into the wireless settings key input text box. the keyboard has no ctrl key for ctrl+v.
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Uhm, first... that's one nasty Avatar! Looks like Homer Simpson!
For your issue, you can use a different SIP that has copy\paste or usually if you hold down on the item a sub menu will appear to "make selection" and you can copy from there.
I got to go throw up now.....
Bruce Inman said:
Uhm, first... that's one nasty Avatar! Looks like Homer Simpson! .
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Whadda ya mean, looks like... it IS homer!!!
codhunter said:
Whadda ya mean, looks like... it IS homer!!!
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That's funny!!!!
back to the prob..
tried the regedit from "showthread.php?t=604023" to get the WM keyboard back, but it doesn't work. i can chose from "touch input" and "keyboard" now in settings, but as i quit the settings menu, it reverts to touch input. any ideas?
Sorry, guys, cannot post the full link,
codhunter said:
tried the regedit from "showthread.php?t=604023" to get the WM keyboard back, but it doesn't work. i can chose from "touch input" and "keyboard" now in settings, but as i quit the settings menu, it reverts to touch input. any ideas?
Sorry, guys, cannot post the full link,
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Look for fingerboard in the forums.
I believe it has copy\paste and its free.
I use touchpal but its not freeware.
Did you try to hold down on word to get a sub menu?
Use Resco explorer or Total commander.
fighter7139 said:
Use Resco explorer or Total commander.
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He is trying to copy text not files.
I'm not sure, but I think last version of Resco explorer can copy-paste texts.
Bruce Inman said:
Look for fingerboard in the forums.
I believe it has copy\paste and its free.
I use touchpal but its not freeware.
Did you try to hold down on word to get a sub menu?
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Hi, Bruce. as i said, i can copy the text to clipboard from word (by holding for submenu), but cannot paste into the text input box in wireless settings. clicking + holding here does not bring any submenu to paste. will have a look for fingerboard.
codhunter said:
Hi, Bruce. as i said, i can copy the text to clipboard from word (by holding for submenu), but cannot paste into the text input box in wireless settings. clicking + holding here does not bring any submenu to paste. will have a look for fingerboard.
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Find Fingerkeyboard here. You may want to read the last few posts as they were related to TD2 issues.
Another thing you can do is find something like Pocket Controller that gives you this function from your PC screen.
It is a phone emulator on your PC that allows you to manipulate the phone with your mouse. It has clipboard functionality for all screens and menus.
Bruce has pretty much mentioned the only way i can think of. (besides using a pen...u know, those things u write on paper with...to ..like...note down all the characters... hehe)
fingerboard will do the trick.
Thanks, guys
thx for the help. now got fingerboard. will give it a go. re - pen, tried inputting wireless key manually with stock keyboard and stylus, but i use buffalo router with AOSS key, 63 random hex keys. just one slip and it's "here we go again!!!" just tryin to make life easy.
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Try RESCO Keyboard.....lok on ipmart-forum....it might be hack ed....
codhunter said:
how do i copy/paste into a text box? i have my wireless security key in a text file and can select/copy it to clipboard, but cannot work out how to paste into the wireless settings key input text box. the keyboard has no ctrl key for ctrl+v.
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just put the cursor in the field and long hold...probably popup menu will popup.
I do that all the time with phone numbers.

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