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Bluetooth between Tomtom - Magician - THB Handsfree

I've noticed, that there are several threads about the Bluetooth communication of the magician. Therefor this one will be one of them.
I'm using TomTom Navigator 5 with Bluetooth GPS on my device. Also i have a bluetooth Handsfree kit from THB mounted in my car. Now, allt that i want is to here the output of the tomtom via my handsfree kit. But it didn't work. All sound is coming of the built in speaker.
If I get al call, the handsfree is working fine. So this is not a problem..... :-(
Anyone got a similar constelation and got a solution for me. I've already contacted TomTom and THB, and both told me to contact the manufactor of the magician. So i think that is a Bluetooth stck problem. I'm still using the default Bluetoot stack of the magician. Will any other help me to find a solution?
Th ROM I'm using is a german 1.12......
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
I've noticed, that there are several threads about the Bluetooth communication of the magician. Therefor this one will be one of them.
I'm using TomTom Navigator 5 with Bluetooth GPS on my device. Also i have a bluetooth Handsfree kit from THB mounted in my car. Now, allt that i want is to here the output of the tomtom via my handsfree kit. But it didn't work. All sound is coming of the built in speaker.
If I get al call, the handsfree is working fine. So this is not a problem..... :-(
Anyone got a similar constelation and got a solution for me. I've already contacted TomTom and THB, and both told me to contact the manufactor of the magician. So i think that is a Bluetooth stck problem. I'm still using the default Bluetoot stack of the magician. Will any other help me to find a solution?
Th ROM I'm using is a german 1.12......
Stefan
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I´ve got the same solution (allmost) AS YOU - BUT THINK ABOUT IT....if the TT-voice came trough your bluetooth set, all the calls would be interupted every time you made a call, while driving with voicenavigation....so it has to be seperated in a loudspeaker and through your bluetooth solution headset etc....

Joost39 said:
I´ve got the same solution (allmost) AS YOU - BUT THINK ABOUT IT....if the TT-voice came trough your bluetooth set, all the calls would be interupted every time you made a call, while driving with voicenavigation....so it has to be seperated in a loudspeaker and through your bluetooth solution headset etc....
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For me that would be no problem, cause i have a fixed telephone in my car, that i can use for phone calls. ;-)
But the sound of the magician speaker is very low.
I´m loving loud music in my car, and then i won´t hear any instructions out of the Magician speaker.....
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
Joost39 said:
I´ve got the same solution (allmost) AS YOU - BUT THINK ABOUT IT....if the TT-voice came trough your bluetooth set, all the calls would be interupted every time you made a call, while driving with voicenavigation....so it has to be seperated in a loudspeaker and through your bluetooth solution headset etc....
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For me that would be no problem, cause i have a fixed telephone in my car, that i can use for phone calls. ;-)
But the sound of the magician speaker is very low.
I´m loving loud music in my car, and then i won´t hear any instructions out of the Magician speaker.....
Stefan
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Okay!
But then you have to go to an mobilephone technician who can fix it so that your PDA can connect to the carstereo with af muting device ----- you get the music and it mutes when the navigationvoice comes on.
I know that it can be done, but it cost bucks....or Euros!
Or buy another bluetooth driver that supports MP3 se www.handago.com
then you can get the navigation and musik in the headset!

TOMTOM instructions on hands-free

Can enyone tell me if it is possible and how??
I have a Parrot 3100 and works fine for calls but can't put it saying nothing that comes from TOMTOM.
I have a friend that one time he heard the tomtom on a head-set.
But only one time and never more.
He doesn't know how!
Can enyone help me?

seem to recall people saying it works if
gps is connected first and then headset

You need a bluetooth headset with AD2P proflie. The standard hards free profile will only route calls to the headset. That said, if you press the voice dial button on your headset when an instruction is being read out, you will hear it in the headset (once only) - probably what the friend experienced.

Hi. I use a piece of software with my standard bt handsfree.
Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router
The sound quality isn't stunning, but it lets all sounds that usually come from the inbuilt speaker to go through the handsfree instead

Tryed Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router on my Trinity WM6 using hands free car kit (Delta System)... When activated it switches off the car speakers (like when calls arrive) but sounds still are on the speaker of pda...
Do you thing it will be necessary a reg tweak?
THX

No idea sorry. I only got my Trinity 2 days ago. I was using a prophet before which worked fine with it. I'll let you know if i do find anything though

IN MY HAND-FREE car kit my tomtom turned off the radio and instructions in car speakers.
right now that doesn't happen.
Infortunately i've tried so many roms i don't know i used at that time, and how make car speakers work again. Any help?

Playing music on Bluetooth Headset for JAM .. I've got an idea

Hey guys,
I've followed every single word written about playing music on a bluetooth headset (Not a Stereo one) , and unfortunately nothing worked ..
I'm really in a bad need for this .. So, I'd like to ask first .. did any body managed to do so ?? I tried a dozen of programs for rerouting aduio to the bluetooth headset but nothing worked .. is there any body here who managed to get this to work on JAM ??
If there is no body who did that .. I've got an idea .. Since the device by default direct the sound of the calls speaker to the bluetooth headset to allw you to make and recieve calls .. so , is there any body who knows a program that lets you choose what Audio output to use ?? I mean any program that allows you to listen to music or videos from the calls speaker not the loud speaker of the device ..
Hope any body could help ..

Why don't you just use a program like BlueTunes.
I haven't used it but its suppose to send music throught your BT headpiece or headset.

I have a motorola S9 (stereo BT) and a I-mate JAM (similar to Qtek s110), with a cab from this forum and wmplayer or mortplayer enhanced (also from this forum, it works fine, also tryed with a S100 and a HTC 3600 (this last one need no extra software).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249219
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274730

No ringtone via bluetooth

Searched the Blackstone forums but did not find any post/thread regarding this particular problem .....
I'm a new Blackstone owner (and a newbie on this forum). Love the device but one major issue I have is that ringtones dont come through via the BT headset. I have assigned different ringtones to people and based on the tone of an incoming call, I should be able to screen calls without looking at the phone ..... or so I thought.
My phone : Blackstone (ROM 1.14.405.X). Dec/7 hotfix from HTC installed (since ROM is older than 1.19)
My BT : Jabra BT3030 stereo headset (AVRCP works fine)
Can anyone please help ?
Thanks !!

Try assigning a long ringtone as there is a lag and this may be cutting off the ringtone

Thanks winwiz. Tried that without luck. I only get the default beep-beep in the BT headset warning me of the incoming call ......

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Can anyone of you folks help me with this ?
I tried a few tricks - set a looooong ringtone (2 minute song) ...... selected a single ringtone for all contacts ...... but no luck, still get only beep-beep via the BT stereo headset for incoming calls, while the phone itself plays the correct ringtone.
Funny thing though - music comes through fine on the BT (A2DP works fine) and I'm also able to control music without issues (AVRCP also works fine).
Any help/suggestions are welcome !!
Cheers !!

SLVRstone said:
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Can anyone of you folks help me with this ?
I tried a few tricks - set a looooong ringtone (2 minute song) ...... selected a single ringtone for all contacts ...... but no luck, still get only beep-beep via the BT stereo headset for incoming calls, while the phone itself plays the correct ringtone.
Funny thing though - music comes through fine on the BT (A2DP works fine) and I'm also able to control music without issues (AVRCP also works fine).
Any help/suggestions are welcome !!
Cheers !!
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I'm a little out of touch with the very latest gear - BUT - would the headset output the ringtone?? Surely it just has it's own ringtone that is the only one it can play, whenever a call comes in?
It seems to me that to send the .mp3 file over bluetooth to a device that doesn't seem big enough to have a full codec supply would tax the Bluetooth bandwidth somewhat!

SLVRstone said:
(A2DP works fine)
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A2DP is used for stereo music, not for talking. Maybe its just not possible (with your headset). But I'm quite unexperienced with bluetooth headsets .

Riceburner said:
I'm a little out of touch with the very latest gear - BUT - would the headset output the ringtone?? Surely it just has it's own ringtone that is the only one it can play, whenever a call comes in?
It seems to me that to send the .mp3 file over bluetooth to a device that doesn't seem big enough to have a full codec supply would tax the Bluetooth bandwidth somewhat!
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johnpatcher said:
A2DP is used for stereo music, not for talking. Maybe its just not possible (with your headset). But I'm quite unexperienced with bluetooth headsets .
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Hello Riceburner .... today's Bluetooth headsets do indeed play your phone ringtone. But it should have A2DP feature that allows music to stream in and your phone should also have A2DP to "send" the music to your headset.
The .mp3 file does not get sent to the bluetooth .... the mp3 plays on your phone as a ringtone when you get a call and the A2DP feature then streams it to your BT headset where you then hear the ringtone.
This can have a lag of even a few seconds, hence the suggestion from winwiz a few posts back to use a long playing ringtone.
johnpatcher - A2DP is indeed not for talking, but it is necessary for the ringtone to play in your headset until you answer the call at which time the traditional bluetooth kicks in to handle voice.
Cheers !!

Can anyone help ?
Here is a consolidation of the issue and my attempts to overcome :
My phone : Blackstone (ROM 1.14.405.X). ROM date Oct/24/2008
Any hotfixes : Yes - since ROM is older than 1.19, applied the Dec/7/2008 hotfix from HTC that addresses screen freeze during multi clicks.
My Bluetooth headset : Jabra BT3030 stereo headset (A2DP and AVRCP works fine with the Touch HD phone)
Problem : Phone ringtone does not play through the BT headset. I get only a "beep-beep" on the BT headset for incoming calls, while the phone itself plays the correct ringtone.
Tried the following :
1) set a long ringtone (2 minute long song) as suggested by winwiz. No luck
2) Selected a single ringtone for all contacts. Still no luck
3) Paired the exact same BT headset with another phone (symbian OS) and it works perfectly - A2DP, AVRCP as well as phone ringtone comes through via the headset. Frustrated !!!
Any help/suggestions are welcome !!

Could this be a WinMo issue as opposed to a Blackstone bug ? Found the following thread ........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310438
One way to find out ...... can folks spare a few minutes to post their experience in using A2DP heasets with the Blackstone - were you successfully able to hear ringtones via your headset ?
Cheers !!

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Can folks oblige by posting their experience using A2DP headsets with the Blackstone ? Were you able to hear ringtones via your headset ?
Thanks !!

thread digger
sorry bringing this up again
but got EXACTLY the same problem here
tryied the suggestions too, without success
any tips?
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I have a BT headset too that can A2DP. (SE DS-980) I don't think its meant for it to transfer ringtones as what one poster mentioned. Anyway, whenever my phone rings, I can hear the tone from my phone and a common single tone from the headset then the contact info is displayed in the LCD so I know who's calling. Another option is if you have MSVC, you can set it to alert you who is calling and only through the BT headset when it connected. That way you'd know who's calling you.

kieboy said:
I have a BT headset too that can A2DP. (SE DS-980) I don't think its meant for it to transfer ringtones as what one poster mentioned. Anyway, whenever my phone rings, I can hear the tone from my phone and a common single tone from the headset then the contact info is displayed in the LCD so I know who's calling. Another option is if you have MSVC, you can set it to alert you who is calling and only through the BT headset when it connected. That way you'd know who's calling you.
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thanks kieboy
guess i'll install MSVC
I use my A2DP headset to listen to music on my embedded helmet speakers while in my bike. And of course, to answer calls too. So, looking to the phones screen isn´t a option and the custom ring tones would be VERY usefull
but, if there's no other work around...
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Possible to send all audio over bluetooth?

I've spent days searching and trying all sorts of tweaks but I can't get anything to work. Can anyone PLEASE help!
I use Tomtom 7 and I've always sent the voice instructions to the bluetooth speaker in my bike helmet (just a handsfree paired item). I've previously done this on HTC devices with BTAudio and a one line registry tweak. Can anyone offer a solution to send all the audio to a bluetooth handsfree on the HD2?
I really hope someone can help, I've got the HD2 setup just right except for this last remaining item.
Many thanks,

i have the same problem...
@noony i think u have already enabled in bt setting the option "manage system audio in handsfree device" if u didnt...try that
for me doesnt work maybe its a headphone problem i see a sort of "fhhh" when any sound is played on phone but still come out from the speeker
another issue... every time i start a call with bt the volume is at the lower level..internal and headphone too! and the last is very strange because with my artemis didnt do

xardus said:
i have the same problem...
@noony i think u have already enabled in bt setting the option "manage system audio in handsfree device" if u didnt...try that
for me doesnt work maybe its a headphone problem i see a sort of "fhhh" when any sound is played on phone but still come out from the speeker
another issue... every time i start a call with bt the volume is at the lower level..internal and headphone too! and the last is very strange because with my artemis didnt do
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Yes I've tried the "manage system audio in handsfree device" option. I can get some background noise on the headsets (I'm trying with a Scala Rider and Motorola 700 & 850) but I never manage to get any sound.
Can anyone please offer a solution? It's a big disappointment for me if this isn't possible. Any suggestions welcome, many thanks.

My Observations
I pared it with my BMW and for the life of me cant ger any audio (music) over bluetooth ( the phone works fine) I then tried it on a $20 bluetooth earpiece I ocassionally use for the phone and guess what I can play music over it fine.
I tried and tried again in the car but could not get it to work.
I think some bluetooth devices will not work. Is there a different specifiaation for bluetooth ir BT1 and BT2 ??
I havent checked into this yet.....

Fadetogrey said:
I pared it with my BMW and for the life of me cant ger any audio (music) over bluetooth ( the phone works fine) I then tried it on a $20 bluetooth earpiece I ocassionally use for the phone and guess what I can play music over it fine.
I tried and tried again in the car but could not get it to work.
I think some bluetooth devices will not work. Is there a different specifiaation for bluetooth ir BT1 and BT2 ??
I havent checked into this yet.....
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It gives me some hope that you've got it to work with one bluetooth device. Can you please let me know exactly what you did to get the $20 bluetooth earpiece to work?
Thanks,

yeah that was my idea but without a stereo bt device i cant try to myself...i ordered to vodafone one with some of my tons of points...3 weeks and no answer!

I had the same issue and on my old phone, the HTC Touch HD, I used the following program to my satisfaction:
BTAudio
On my HTC HD2 however this doesn't seem to work anymore. :-(

it does the same thing of the inbuild bt option on hd2 its just a "quick link" to place on the bar
anyone of u have any problem with bt device volume? before i have an Artemis and 3 different device i used the device volume was every time the one i choose...now every time a new call starts phone volume its right but device volume jump to minimum level and every time i have to press + button like as i'm playing videopoker to dont miss fist seconds of a conversation

Works fine with Jabra 3030, all audio over it, music, system sounds and calls.

Maybe it's only working for bluetooth devices that are setup as stereo. Can anyone please offer a solution here?

I've installed a 6.5 rom (dutty v7 - thank you) on my HD and after a sprite restore (level 2) bluetooth audio divert works fine. Although I notived that the bluetooth options remained the old settings (possibly due to my backup restore) and the divert was done using the BTAudio. Sorry to keep asking but if anyone can shed light on this.
Is it possible to tweak the HD2 so that audio can be sent to any bluetooth headset/handsfree or is there some hardware limitation that stops this from being done?
I've tried every app and tweak that I can think of! Please can anyone help, even iof it's to let me know why this can't be done.
Thanks,

its what we all are trying to do......now i think its only a bt device problem...if it support bt2.1 and a2dp with edr seems to work all good....
i solved in car with headphone in the box...but bluetooth should be much and much better without any cable that always have to remove nodes (its the right word? sorry if not hehe)

I'm connecting to my HD2 using Jabra Stone, an A2DP headset. When I selected the stereo headset profile on the HD2, it redirected all system sounds to the headset: reminders, SMS alert, soundtrack for videos, audio player....except phone ring. I used BT Audio over a non-A2DP headset before with Diamond2, but the ausio is very poor, and the connection drops very often. Since I changed to A2DP headsets, the Diamond2 and HD2 supports it out of the box - no hack needed.
So look for A2DP headsets if you want to redirect audio.

Thank you to everyone that has helped with replies. I've now got my answer. If the bluetooth device supports A2DP then it works! (just won't work with mono etc)
I've now tested my HD2 with over a dozen bluetooth devices ALL A2DP enabled headsets regardless of if they are cheap or expensive!
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to help.

I have an LG HBM-220 bluetooth and cannot put audio to in, only phone calls!
How can i manage to do it?

I blame it on the stupid Widcomm Bluetooth stack... If the HD2 used the better MS stack, BT would play nice with with more of our periphirals and apps
I can't use MSVC properly with BT either....

the solution is to go to the bluetooth settings, select your device and connect the stereo audio connection.

Way back, Microsoft decreed that ONLY the phone app could use a mono BlueTooth headset, although any audio could be redirected to a stereo A2DP headset.
In order to get around this you need to fudge the sytem with something like BTAudio or TekSoft's BlueAudio.
The latter worked on my XDA Orbits (1 and 2) but does not work on my Touch HD with Dutty's R6 ROM (WM 6.5) possibly because BlueAudio requires the Microsoft BlueTooth stack and I suspect Dutty's ROM has the Widcomm stack. But I could be wrong about that.
BTAudio sort of works on my Touch HD, but outgoing audio is speeded up like I've been breathing Helium.
So no current solution to yet another idiotic gotcha from Microsoft.

Noony said:
Thank you to everyone that has helped with replies. I've now got my answer. If the bluetooth device supports A2DP then it works! (just won't work with mono etc)
I've now tested my HD2 with over a dozen bluetooth devices ALL A2DP enabled headsets regardless of if they are cheap or expensive!
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to help.
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Hmmm. When I conect via gprs to youtube aps I can hear the voice in my mono headset (jabra 2020) but via wifi and computer as modem voice is only in phone speaker. So maybe we should look gprs or youtube aps reg tweek.

Guys
i have a nokia HB-100 headset and i'm experiencing all kinds of strange behavours
sometimes system sounds including music ...etc get directed to the headset and some other time it just directs calls no matter how hard i try thru soft resets or unchecking then checking the "play system sounds ..." option!
very strange, any insights about this? is there a tweak to go with or is it a known WM defect?