I'm thinking of upgrading from my Diamond Touch to the new Blackstone.
Got a simple question. I like the way I've got my Touch setup. Can I just use my backup on the blackstone since it's running the same OS or do I have to start from scratch?
Thanks.
Mark
PS. Well, two questions.... does the 3G work in the US? I was reading a review that said that 3G for that phone doesn't work in the US. I don't understand, what is different than the 3G we use on the Touch Diamond.
I'm not sure bout about moving stuff over from the diamond, but I'd put my money on no. Although they both use WM and TF3D, the ROMs of the phones are different.
As for 3g, the short answer is also no. However (and there is a plethra of threads on the subject) people are now saying that there is a shot that one of the version of the HD (Telstra) that just came out support the necessary frequency (and that answers your other question as to why the diamond works on 3g but the HD doesn't; because the antenas pick up different frequencies) to possibly work on one of the At&T 3g bands.
However, to summarize, you'll prolly have to add the programs manually to the HD and you're stuck on Edge in the US
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I just purchased a HTC Tytn (unbranded). I have so many questions and can't seem to find the answers. First, does anyone know a program that will update the clock with the network without doing the At&t rom update. Second, Will it hurt to do the at&t update to my phone or will I loose the voicedial function and 2nd video cam ect. Is the ms voicedial ver 1.6 worth it. So many more I'll make another thread later. By the way thanks for the forum. You all are great and I hope to learn alot.
I am on cing/att and using an unbranded tytn... i have also flashed the official att rom on it (yes, its wm5, but i needed PTT)... anyway, smartdial is there, but you will lose video calling (which att dont support anyway) but the fron cam will still function, i used atek software's cool camera to prove the drivers were still on the phone and working.. and i dont use MS VC 1.6 so i cant answer that one...
Tytn vs 8525
Shogun, Thanks for the info. I don't need the PTT. I do like the auto update feature for the clock using the network though. So far I like the phone, (I'm just starting to get used to it. Can you remap the PTT. I will start doing a lot of international flying soon and needed the unbranded phone. Does the At&t service determine the video or can 2 people with a tytn and a 3g signal just start video calling? So many questions!
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Shogun, Thanks for the info. I don't need the PTT. I do like the auto update feature for the clock using the network though. So far I like the phone, (I'm just starting to get used to it. Can you remap the PTT. I will start doing a lot of international flying soon and needed the unbranded phone. Does the At&t service determine the video or can 2 people with a tytn and a 3g signal just start video calling? So many questions!
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Not sure about the auto-update feature and working on other roms... but they should support it..
The PTT can be remapped, use a different rom, or search for sleuth's PTT fix.
The video calling is dependant on the dialer on the phone (in the rom, or installable otherwise), it requires a certain dpadmenu.dll in order to work, but if your ATT its not going to work anyway.. it is provider dependant.. and 3G dependant
I first off would like to start off by saying I'm in the market of getting a new cell phone, and am really interested in the touches. I'm a college student, so I really can't afford TOO much, but am just wanting some good bang for my buck, and I feel the touches are just what I'm looking for.
However, I really don't have much of a clue which I'm wanting to get. First off, my carrier is GSM (T-mobile). My concern is the number of applications or ROMs that the various touches have. For example, do roms and apps that are meant for the elf work on the Opal? I'm wanting something like the touch, but a bit faster, as I've heard many complain that the elf is a bit slow. Also, is the Opal considered the "Touch Enhanced"? There are WAY too many nicknames, and they are all very confusing for me.
Simply put, I'm trying to find a touch that can at least play youtube movies at good frame rates (from wi-fi), and run most apps or roms well. However, I don't want to buy a model of touch and realize that there are no real mods for it to "pimp" it out. I have looked around on the search, but I feel these questions are a bit too "common sense" to be easily found anywhere.
Lastly, I'm not interested in a data plan, as I'm mainly wanting to use it as a PDA (don't need push-email or internet everywhere I go). Frankly, I live in a city dominated w/ wifi, and will be covered by that everywhere I go. Without a data plan, what apps or features will I be missing out on?
I really appreciate ANY help. Thanks for everything!
TAhsifter88 said:
I first off would like to start off by saying I'm in the market of getting a new cell phone, and am really interested in the touches. I'm a college student, so I really can't afford TOO much, but am just wanting some good bang for my buck, and I feel the touches are just what I'm looking for.
However, I really don't have much of a clue which I'm wanting to get. First off, my carrier is GSM (T-mobile). My concern is the number of applications or ROMs that the various touches have. For example, do roms and apps that are meant for the elf work on the Opal? I'm wanting something like the touch, but a bit faster, as I've heard many complain that the elf is a bit slow. Also, is the Opal considered the "Touch Enhanced"? There are WAY too many nicknames, and they are all very confusing for me.
Simply put, I'm trying to find a touch that can at least play youtube movies at good frame rates (from wi-fi), and run most apps or roms well. However, I don't want to buy a model of touch and realize that there are no real mods for it to "pimp" it out. I have looked around on the search, but I feel these questions are a bit too "common sense" to be easily found anywhere.
Lastly, I'm not interested in a data plan, as I'm mainly wanting to use it as a PDA (don't need push-email or internet everywhere I go). Frankly, I live in a city dominated w/ wifi, and will be covered by that everywhere I go. Without a data plan, what apps or features will I be missing out on?
I really appreciate ANY help. Thanks for everything!
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Please read WIKI's for information on each device
ELF - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
Elfin - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elfin
Vogue - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Vogue
OPAL - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Opal
JADE or Touch 3G - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Jade
To answer your other question - most apps and programs can work with any windows mobile device - Most programs will say whether they are Windows 5 only or 6 only or 6.1 only if so. Also screen resolution is a factor for some programs vga - qvga etc..
ROM upgrading is device specific - do not put a ROM intended for Opal on a ELFIN or a ROM for Elfin on a Vogue etc....... Despite there similarities, there are differences and they are different devices.
Thank for the response!
I've taken a look over those wikis, and they helped quite a bit. However, I'm a bit lost with the elfin. In concerns of updating ROMs, is it the same as the Elf? There is no board for the Elfin, and there's not much data about the Elfin. I understand the main difference is the increase in RAM, as well as the jump from wm6.0 to 6.1, but I've also heard that the elf is compatible with 6.1. Would elf roms work just fine w/ elfin? I know that's not the case /w most others, but it just seems to me that the site combined the two.
Lastly, I can imagine the best place to find a list of roms is on the boards dedicated for that specific phone. Are there any major apps or features that won't function if I am not on a data plan? I tried searching, but it seems the majority have plans, and the few that do not don't mention the downfalls. I understand there is no push-emailing or no internet everywhere, but do some apps flat out not work at all w/o a data plan? Will the apps that require internet work over wifi? I know blackberry is STRICT with what they limit you on, and I was wondering if it's the same case here?
Thanks again for the reply!
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Thank for the response!
I've taken a look over those wikis, and they helped quite a bit. However, I'm a bit lost with the elfin. In concerns of updating ROMs, is it the same as the Elf? There is no board for the Elfin, and there's not much data about the Elfin. I understand the main difference is the increase in RAM, as well as the jump from wm6.0 to 6.1, but I've also heard that the elf is compatible with 6.1. Would elf roms work just fine w/ elfin? I know that's not the case /w most others, but it just seems to me that the site combined the two.
Lastly, I can imagine the best place to find a list of roms is on the boards dedicated for that specific phone. Are there any major apps or features that won't function if I am not on a data plan? I tried searching, but it seems the majority have plans, and the few that do not don't mention the downfalls. I understand there is no push-emailing or no internet everywhere, but do some apps flat out not work at all w/o a data plan? Will the apps that require internet work over wifi? I know blackberry is STRICT with what they limit you on, and I was wondering if it's the same case here?
Thanks again for the reply!
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Actually, my elfin only came with Windows 6.0 not 6.1. With regard to Rom's I havn't upgraded mine ever, so I can't tell you much about it but that there are some WM 6.1 custom Roms available for the Elfin in these forums. Most are linked to the Elf forum and Elfin Rom's I have found in Elf ROM threads with Elfin ROM Links. I don't have a data plan with mine - Use only WIFI as there are tons of open WIFI networks in my area. I havn't yet found any apps that dont work over WIFI instead of using data plan but I havn't tried every single app out there yet. Most apps that require internet will work over WIFI though. I check my email, surf the web, use various weather apps, listen to internet radio and Sirius radio online and even use google maps etc... all work great over WIFI. I live in Canada so (rediculous data plans here) so do not have a data plan for that reason. Would love an unlimited data plan to be able to listen internet radio anywhere I go.
Wow.. you're a goldmine of information. I really appreciate all the help! I feel completely sold on it now. Thanks again!
I purchased this phone on Ebay and didnt realise at the time that it came pre loaded with Telstra software which prevents me form accessing the net etc. I am with "3" and would prefer to keep the phone - can anyone help solve this issue?
your quick fix would be to Flash a new Rom
Thanks for that. Next question - is how do I do that, where do I go, do I need to do via computer/net or phone/net - never done anything like it. Cheers
Oh dear
ok well you will have some fun then, most important is take your time dont rush
here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477 read this first
here is a link for a video to show the steps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
It looks very complicated at first glanse but it is pretty simple
you can always ask here and many people will help you
Enjoy
Wow. Could probably do this.
This is all about getting a phone for my sister who has vey poor reception at her farm in the country but where my HD2 works great. None of her three children who all have different types of phones gets as good as reception has the HD2. She wants to buy a phone doesn't want to get it home and find the reception is poor and having wasted her money. I could sell her mine (as I quite like the look of the Desire) and try to tweek it - or she could get one of her own from ebay (item 300447152858) which has already been done. Question then is, will it have the same reception - what part of the phone tells me that sort of info.
ozmoran said:
Oh dear
ok well you will have some fun then, most important is take your time dont rush
here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477 read this first
here is a link for a video to show the steps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
It looks very complicated at first glanse but it is pretty simple
you can always ask here and many people will help you
Enjoy
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the very first thing that you're gonna have to do is flash an older Telstra ROM after you HSPL it. then you can flash whatever ROM you want. i speak from experience. good luck!
no no no... The Telstra phone doesn't prevent you from connecting to the net, it simply doesn't have the settings to connect to 3...
Ring 3 and get all the settings and create a new connection on your HD2...
argentocruz said:
no no no... The Telstra phone doesn't prevent you from connecting to the net, it simply doesn't have the settings to connect to 3...
Ring 3 and get all the settings and create a new connection on your HD2...
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Actually, whilst you'll get your 3 sim working, you'll have problems getting any desent net connection
Advise, actually flashing HSPL & then custom rom. It all takes a bit of time reading & understanding how it all works but trust me its the best thing to do.
I had probs getting my 3 sim working properly but eversince I started using custom roms, on 1st boot the device picks up the 3 settings automatically & runs perfect
elinoc said:
Wow. Could probably do this.
This is all about getting a phone for my sister who has vey poor reception at her farm in the country but where my HD2 works great. None of her three children who all have different types of phones gets as good as reception has the HD2. She wants to buy a phone doesn't want to get it home and find the reception is poor and having wasted her money. I could sell her mine (as I quite like the look of the Desire) and try to tweek it - or she could get one of her own from ebay (item 300447152858) which has already been done. Question then is, will it have the same reception - what part of the phone tells me that sort of info.
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As far as reception goes, your best bet is to stick to telstra. Or 3 as a second option, which runs on the telstra network when roaming.
Cheers
harry655 said:
I had probs getting my 3 sim working properly but eversince I started using custom roms, on 1st boot the device picks up the 3 settings automatically & runs perfect
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that's actually more because the cooked roms generally contain the.global connectionsetup program that includes settings for most carriers than the rom itself. you can find it as a cab, which should work on the stock Telstra rom.
I accidentally posted this in the wrong forum, this one seems more appropriate.
First of all, this forum has been very helpful. I almost find that there is too much information available here, boggles the mind.
In any case I have just upgraded to a Touch HD from a Touch Cruise (the first edition). The Touch Cruise was a Great Phone, still is – I was just looking for an upgrade (upgraditis). The model I supposedly obtained (EBay Auction for $161) is the T8285, which is perfect as I am USA bound on the AT&T Network. For all intensive purposes the Phone is working as expected, looks great too!
My first question (I know asked before) is that the phone says it’s a T8282. I realize that any past ROM updates can do this – I do not have a clear history of the device. Looking at the Phone Network selections I have four choices (see below). It does show the UMTS Bands AT&T Operations on, so can I assume that this is an T8285?
• Auto
• GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
• GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
• UMTS(2100+800)
Next: I do not have the Data Plan, nor do I want it. It’s just too pricey and I really do not need it (I have WiFi available at home and work, which appears to be working great). A lot of Forum advice here goes into available Programs to shut off/block the Data from working. Right now I have only two options selected (Turned On) under Connections, the Phone and WiFi. There is a Tab for Data which I left OFF. This seems like a no brainer but as it hasn’t been discussed as an option to the No-Data desires, am I just simply missing something?
I know this is purely taste, but is there a “widely” preferred Screen Saver out there? I have had my Touch Cruise for three years and the Screen is Immaculate due to persistence/diligence on protecting the Screen, but I have noticed that there is differences in quality – LARGE differences! The one I liked the most was the HTC Branded Screen savers. They resisted scratches while not effecting operability. I am now using “Fellowes” Generic savers, which scratch relatively easy.
Of course I have other questions, but I will continue to work them out searching the forums for answers as needed. I know there are people who hate when questions are asked that have been answered before – I did research the above but either found not enough or too much contradicting information.
If you look under the battery, the model number should say BLAC100 or BLAC120. BLAC100=T8282, BLAC120=T8285.
Even if Data Connection is OFF in comm manager, the phone will still connect to the internet as needed. You'll need an app to prevent the data connection from starting, or put an invalid APN in connection settings.
But a large pack of the cheapest screen protectors off ebay and replace them as they get scratched?
Waaaah: It appears I have a T8282, not a T8285 as described in the Ebay Auction. It clearly has the BLAC100 identifier under the battery. However, this may be OK as I never intended to opt for the Data Plan anyway. Other than not being Data accessible for AT&T is there any other differences between the phones - even ever so slight? Like I said I am surfing the WEB via WiFi, making and recieving calls, and accessing the other programs without issue.
I am finding that obtaining a "non-Data-Plan" GPS program for these phones is difficult (obviously my only option now). I like TomTom (had Navigator 6 on my HTC Cruise) but the Nav 6 is not "fully" compatible. The Nav 7 is compatible but does not have available USA Maps. CoPilot Live V8 is out there, but Web reviews leave less-than-desireable reports for the Maps - but the program itself does gets high marks. If TomTom does not give some indication for getting the Maps I will most likely go with CoPilot.
I like the phone and plan on keeping it (I did reply to the EBay seller to see if he can do anything, but do not expect much if any). I see a french site referenced in these forums with a large list of compatible Software but can not current register to his site for the links (others are apparrently having the same issue right now).
If there is any advice/information out there I might find interesting please feel free to feed it back.
Thanks.....
There's no difference between them apart from the addition of different 3G bands, the T8282 came out first in Europe and has the European 3G bands, the T8285 is the 'rest of the world' version with more frequences available.
The T8282 will still work on GSM in the US, but you won't get any 3G, which will only be a problem for voice if you're in 3G-only area. Seems it's been flashed with a T8285 ROM which shows the US 3G frequences, but they won't work on an T8282 as the hardware isn't there to support it.
There's quite a few sat-nav programs available, off the top of my head, there's TomTom, iGo, Route 66, Destinator...
That's what I fugured. However now that you mention it - is AT&T (or will they) be going toward a 3G Only coverage phylosophy. If that is (or will be) their intention this phone will eventually be useless. I find it hard to believe that a changeover like that could take place overnight, but it does make business sense (kind-of). Why maintain multiple systems (in this case Bands) when just your top-of-the-line one will do. They also in turn force the populace to keep upgrading phones pleasing the manufacturers. Kind of a Software thing - only supporting the latest product, forcing upgrades.
Hello, i used to own a htc hd2 untl it was stollen, and now i miss it so damn much i'm gonna get another. I was unaware of it's incredible capabilitys though until recently. When i get my new one it will be the T9193 build. Living in Australia, i need this to access the next g network to get the reception where i work. I have two questions,
if i boot Android or Windows phone 7 on it, will it just receive ordinary reception or will their be no change to reception?
Also how well do android and wp7 run? are they run as well as they do on their native devices. (i have seen clips on youtube, but they all just show how great they are, and don't actually discuss negatives)
I have used both Android and WP7 on my HD2, and I still prefer Android. Just basicly you can do more with it and there is more apps and games for it.
My only problem I encountered so far is with WP7 that you need an activation key for it by microsoft(25 digit code, there are sticky's on the forum how to get these) and that the marketplace isn't open for my country.
On android I never really had a problem, worked great and easy.
I'm still running on WP7 as I want to try more stuff on it(unlocking and all, didn't get to that yet).
About the reception, I dont know. I always just boot it up and connect to the 3g when it is available.