T9193 running wp7 or android - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

Hello, i used to own a htc hd2 untl it was stollen, and now i miss it so damn much i'm gonna get another. I was unaware of it's incredible capabilitys though until recently. When i get my new one it will be the T9193 build. Living in Australia, i need this to access the next g network to get the reception where i work. I have two questions,
if i boot Android or Windows phone 7 on it, will it just receive ordinary reception or will their be no change to reception?
Also how well do android and wp7 run? are they run as well as they do on their native devices. (i have seen clips on youtube, but they all just show how great they are, and don't actually discuss negatives)

I have used both Android and WP7 on my HD2, and I still prefer Android. Just basicly you can do more with it and there is more apps and games for it.
My only problem I encountered so far is with WP7 that you need an activation key for it by microsoft(25 digit code, there are sticky's on the forum how to get these) and that the marketplace isn't open for my country.
On android I never really had a problem, worked great and easy.
I'm still running on WP7 as I want to try more stuff on it(unlocking and all, didn't get to that yet).
About the reception, I dont know. I always just boot it up and connect to the 3g when it is available.

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Even though you own the g1 you still toting a wm device?

Im interested to know this.. I have the G1 and I love it. I actually had to give up my Diamond for the G1. So now my question is this how many devices do you now use?? Ive used windows mobile for years now and even though I want to see Android blow WM out of the water I still have to rely on wm for certain on the go things. Even though my G1 is my primary phone I also have a second work phone which is just a samsung and for entertainment I bought a Ipod Touch a few months ago. My Tilt still ends up in my messenger now though when I have to do WM document editing and tethering on the go. Anybody else finding they have to do this. I know its only matter of time before I can use the G1 for everything but I was interested to see if anyone else is toting around multiple devices.
I'm selling my old wm device. No reason to carry the extra bulk. The only reason I'd keep it would be for some better games and junk I'd never use. My G1 is just so much cleaner and does everything I need it to.
Holy cow, how many devices do you carry around?
Yeah but what about using wifi router and office applications like excel and word and what not. I know eventually software will be available but what are you doing for the time being.. And the google document viewer is crappy and buggy so dont even mention it
Currently On a day to day basis i carry
Sony 8.1 digicam
Jabra Bt 8040
Ipod Touch 16gb
Helio Mysto
Tmobile G1
and occasionally my tilt htc kaiser
I haven't even looked at my Wing since I got my g1. I might be selling it soon...
I use dash for internet sharing and games till internet sharing comes out for g1, primary phone is g1. Nrg came out with new rom and linux is available for dash now so i'm gonna check out both.
One reason only so far...
Just to tether... but even then, I am managing to surf WIFI most of the time so thinking about turfing the good ole MDA...
--M
I'm a geek and have my workout log in excel, so I have my wing with me at the gym, but that's it. Otherwise I don't need the Wing.
My Diamond is currently up for sale and I am carrying my iPhone 3G, G1, and my Blackjack 2 for work.
I just got rid of my Touch. I'm a huger advocate of having only one device for everything. It's seems a bit counter productive to walk around with three devices which all basically can do the same thing.
I mainly used my Touch for web, phone, messaging, and video/mp3. The G1 seems to be holding its own so far, but I had to convert video file to mp4. I'm hoping someone will release their own mp3 app for the G1 as well since I'd like to have mroe options there.
I have been a long time WM owner and have had almost every HTC device and manage atleast 15 in my company. I have dumped my Touch Dual and WM for now.
These are two completely different devices. WM is a device designed around productivity but has too many issues and is not a good gaming or media device. If you want Outlook to sync and connect with server platform support and security than stick with WM. The Android is more of a communication and socialization device with an easy polished User Interface. You can sync some Outlook components and use MS Exchange but they are work around apps and not natively supported so there are problems to be expected. This device was clearly not designed for Outlook so it shouldnt be expected to work great with it. But if you are smart and you rely on this, you can make it happen or find another app to suite your needs.
The Android OS handles memory so well and can take a faulty application without locking the device completely. I personally havn't locked my device to the point of reseting, I have crashed apps and have had the OS hang for a sec but it recovers quickly. Not saying it can't happen but having owned so many WM devices, I have not had one that I didn't have to soft reset every couple of days to get back perfomance or dodge issues.
HTC does a fantastic job creating UI shells for the Windows Mobile but it does not compare to the speed and styling of the Android platform. Touch Flo enviroments are a great jump in the right direction but it is masking an interface not designed for non stylus use.
There was some adjusting at first but I feel MS had been pushing me to use their conformed applications. I found away to do everything I need my G1 to do, but I did take some work arounds to get there. I am happy and maybe one day will go back to WM, but for now sticking with the G1. To me its finally a device that can compare to the iphone in alot of respects. Windows is a more powerful device just less gracefull and lacking the polished UI.
Android ≠ Windows Mobile ≠ iphone
They are all different devices for different people.
Jcostanza4
so then you only carry a g1 now
ckthunda said:
so then you only carry a g1 now
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Yes.
Jcostanza4
I'm still having to carry around my HERALD along with the G1. To be honest for over half the things I have to do on a day to day basis the G1 just will not cut it. Great device for a power mobile but still not developed enough for the cross platform integration I need.
Wow, you guys are seriously hardcore cell phone users. I use my phone for text messaging and browsing the internet. I cannot even imagine any time when I would want to edit an Excel spreadsheet on my phone. I'm a software developer so my work doesn't require me to carry an exchange compatible device since there's no reason for me to be on call when I'm away from my desk.
I carry my G1 on me at all times, and I have an old black and white iPod at my desk at work for listening to music while I'm coding so I don't drain my phone's battery. That's pretty much it. I do have a T-Mobile Dash, but I keep it around just to play with it at home, I don't do anything productive with it and it doesn't have a SIM card.
sadly....I still use my Wing along with G1. I need the wing to tether my laptop during those boring lecture so I can at least look at those skimpy jailbait posing with their sexy bikinis to prevent me from falling asleep
second, I need the wing at my clinical lab rotation to look up medications, dosage, and side effects because there's no built-in drug guide for G1 yet (I could use the internet to access some site that do the same thing, but I don't wanna do it because it drains the living battery out of my G1). beside the hospital that i'm doing my rotation doesn't get covered by 3G so pulling data from online site can be pretty painful at times.
once someone put a tethering app on G1, drug guide app, and improved 3G network is happening, then I will completely ditch my Wing.
But then, rumors started about G1 source code being release soon, so I might keep the Wing to see if android will run on it. it would be double the fun.
I'm still holding onto my Wing, although it stays at home and doesn't follow me on the street. I do use it a bit here at home for what my G1 lacks.
With lack of screenshot ability, I need it to shoot screen of the G1 (which are horrible now that I've been spoiled by the G1's autofocus)
>> android screenshot app needed
Keep the WinMo of course for video recording, and being able to send an mms with image / audio / text.
>> more android mms options needed
Now when I'm not at home, I'd like to have the Wing around for things that android cannot yet do:
1. d/l and open pdf files - as well as d/l of other unsupported filetypes.
2. stream audio so I can listen to online radio - stereo bluetooth goes hand in hand with this
3. playin' some dragon warrior or simcity - someone get an emulator up!
(and since the Skyfire browser is on my wing: FLASH!!! - c'mon adobe, hurry up with the webkit version already)
I know this probably sounds dumb and i probably know the answer myself but what u mean when u say shoot screenshots?
jkiller122 said:
what u mean when u say shoot screenshots?
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Saving whatever is onscreen as an image file which you can then mms.
Is really handy to tell someone longdistance what you pulled up from your weather app; even better for sharing web pages since a lot of folks just wont click given links but will read what is showing in image.

New user (to be) confused about ROMS, Root etc.

I am due an upgrade tomorrow (hurrah) from Vodafone and having spent the last 18mths on a N95 8gb, my 5th Nokia in a row I have finally decided no the plunge with the Magic.
Basically I figure the platform is going to be more improved etc over the 18-24mths that I am likely to get locked into the phone for.
HOwever, my experience with Vodafone is that the OS they install is generally sub standard and want to know the following.
I have flashed WM5 to WM6.1 devices and also Symbian phones so have some knowledge ofthe process.
How difficult is it on the Magic, and which ROM is the latest "Best". I don't want to lose any 3G, HSDPA or WIFI capabilities.
Also, is there an app that allows syncing to a mac yet? Not a big deal as I can sync it all through Google Apps account. But without BT transfer, is there a USB drive programme for file transfer.
DOes changing the ROM make it impossible to install OS updates from ANDROID like the new 1.5 or is that the same thing?
Thank you.
Looking forward to this phone, want to make sure I can get the right OS on it before I start loading it with apps!

htc hd2 telstra australia

I purchased this phone on Ebay and didnt realise at the time that it came pre loaded with Telstra software which prevents me form accessing the net etc. I am with "3" and would prefer to keep the phone - can anyone help solve this issue?
your quick fix would be to Flash a new Rom
Thanks for that. Next question - is how do I do that, where do I go, do I need to do via computer/net or phone/net - never done anything like it. Cheers
Oh dear
ok well you will have some fun then, most important is take your time dont rush
here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477 read this first
here is a link for a video to show the steps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
It looks very complicated at first glanse but it is pretty simple
you can always ask here and many people will help you
Enjoy
Wow. Could probably do this.
This is all about getting a phone for my sister who has vey poor reception at her farm in the country but where my HD2 works great. None of her three children who all have different types of phones gets as good as reception has the HD2. She wants to buy a phone doesn't want to get it home and find the reception is poor and having wasted her money. I could sell her mine (as I quite like the look of the Desire) and try to tweek it - or she could get one of her own from ebay (item 300447152858) which has already been done. Question then is, will it have the same reception - what part of the phone tells me that sort of info.
ozmoran said:
Oh dear
ok well you will have some fun then, most important is take your time dont rush
here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477 read this first
here is a link for a video to show the steps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
It looks very complicated at first glanse but it is pretty simple
you can always ask here and many people will help you
Enjoy
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the very first thing that you're gonna have to do is flash an older Telstra ROM after you HSPL it. then you can flash whatever ROM you want. i speak from experience. good luck!
no no no... The Telstra phone doesn't prevent you from connecting to the net, it simply doesn't have the settings to connect to 3...
Ring 3 and get all the settings and create a new connection on your HD2...
argentocruz said:
no no no... The Telstra phone doesn't prevent you from connecting to the net, it simply doesn't have the settings to connect to 3...
Ring 3 and get all the settings and create a new connection on your HD2...
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Actually, whilst you'll get your 3 sim working, you'll have problems getting any desent net connection
Advise, actually flashing HSPL & then custom rom. It all takes a bit of time reading & understanding how it all works but trust me its the best thing to do.
I had probs getting my 3 sim working properly but eversince I started using custom roms, on 1st boot the device picks up the 3 settings automatically & runs perfect
elinoc said:
Wow. Could probably do this.
This is all about getting a phone for my sister who has vey poor reception at her farm in the country but where my HD2 works great. None of her three children who all have different types of phones gets as good as reception has the HD2. She wants to buy a phone doesn't want to get it home and find the reception is poor and having wasted her money. I could sell her mine (as I quite like the look of the Desire) and try to tweek it - or she could get one of her own from ebay (item 300447152858) which has already been done. Question then is, will it have the same reception - what part of the phone tells me that sort of info.
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As far as reception goes, your best bet is to stick to telstra. Or 3 as a second option, which runs on the telstra network when roaming.
Cheers
harry655 said:
I had probs getting my 3 sim working properly but eversince I started using custom roms, on 1st boot the device picks up the 3 settings automatically & runs perfect
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that's actually more because the cooked roms generally contain the.global connectionsetup program that includes settings for most carriers than the rom itself. you can find it as a cab, which should work on the stock Telstra rom.

[Q] Q. SIM card Difference if Android web or WinMo web ?

I am running an HD2 with Froyostone 3.2.
I purchased a G2 and switched to Android web...using the Android SIM in the HD2...does it make a difference..Im not sure.
When in WinMo i can access the internet..and in Android as well, but i get alot of drops in the Android.
Anyone else try this ?
Edit: using darkstone [email protected] V3
Are you talking about your data plan on your contract/tariff?
They largely mean nothing important. APN's will invariable be the same (this especially rings true if you changed something on your tariff but nothing changed on your phone), it's just a way of the networks and carriers to try and make more money off people.
Thank you.
Can you tell me is there anything I can do to keep the network from dropping out so much. I read through some threads...but don't really understand what I need to so exactly
htc hd2 froyostone
Atm PPP data disconnects are a tricky beast to contend with. There are lots of threads that deal with the situation, but as far as I am aware (and it would be big news!) it's not been fixed permanently on any build.
I'm using Shubcraft 2.0 atm and my data only disconnects when I switch towers (basically when I travel outside of my local area) but turning my mobile data off then on again brings it back. It's a minor inconvenience to me, I know it's a great annoyance to others who aren't as lucky as me.
The only real advice I can give is keep reading those threads that deal with it, and see if other peoples fixes/workarounds work for you.
Thanks again....that's pretty much what I been doing disconnecting data...other than that..I have no other issues with this build
..I rarely even use the G2..hah
htc hd2 froyostone

[Q] TMobile HD2 programmed obsolescence?

Guys, you may think I'm crazy or paranoic but this is my question:
Is there programmed obsolescence for TMobile HD2 with WM 6.5 cell phones?
I can explain. I have one TMobile HD2, my wife has another and my brother too. All phones were bought in different ocasions and different places. About two months ago all three phones presented problems with HTC Sense. HTC Sense couldn't be loaded and the apps couldn't be loaded. We turned off HTC Sense and thigs improved a little but the other apps started to present problems one by one.
All the apps were installed for a long time and weren't changed nor updated.
The apps in my phone were different from my wife's phone and from my brother's phone but the problems were quite similar.
I installed HSPL in all three phones and tried WM6.5 cooked ROMs. They didn't work well. I installed Android and everything is OK. All phones are working fine.
Is it a coincidence that WM6.5 support is ending?
Why the problems only show up with WM6.5 ROMs?
Does anyone know anything about?
All services are cut it
Sense need to connect to windows server for weather....this server are not avaliable....problably in hd2 foruns you will see more people complain about services from htc
Htc need to solve that problem
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA
It does not need to connect to HTC server for weather.
I & all staff in our company are running an old nrg build of 6.5.x for business use & it runs flawless & connects to all services as should ...
Don't expect all your problems to be solved by Android & be alert for a few new ones ...
I can understand issues with original T-mobile ROM & perhaps due to provider or region but a good custom 6.5.x windows mobile build still works properly & has no real loss of function from cut Windows support as it never had a lot to start with & not being server/cloud reliant functions fine even if HTC & it's servers disappeared off the face of the earth ...
Bicalho said:
Guys, you may think I'm crazy or paranoic but this is my question:
Is there programmed obsolescence for TMobile HD2 with WM 6.5 cell phones?
I can explain. I have one TMobile HD2, my wife has another and my brother too. All phones were bought in different ocasions and different places. About two months ago all three phones presented problems with HTC Sense. HTC Sense couldn't be loaded and the apps couldn't be loaded. We turned off HTC Sense and thigs improved a little but the other apps started to present problems one by one.
All the apps were installed for a long time and weren't changed nor updated.
The apps in my phone were different from my wife's phone and from my brother's phone but the problems were quite similar.
I installed HSPL in all three phones and tried WM6.5 cooked ROMs. They didn't work well. I installed Android and everything is OK. All phones are working fine.
Is it a coincidence that WM6.5 support is ending?
Why the problems only show up with WM6.5 ROMs?
Does anyone know anything about?
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I would suggest that you install a custom ROM; I'm surprised you managed for so long with the one that comes with the HD2. It really is bloated. If you HSPL and install a custom ROM, your problems will probably go away. The devices are out of warranty anyway.

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