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Don't worry all, it's all good. Let me start with the confusion by quoting a fellow Xda members concern about pricing, that was shared by myself and doubtless countless of other potentially interested purchasers of the new Athena, known as HTC X7500 (due out in April sometime), T-Mobile Ameo (available now) and the Dopod U1000 (available now in various parts of Asia).
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hi, yup there is something definitely wrong on flext 35+webnwalk = 119 and on flext 50+webnwalk= 319 ))
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Right then....just had a rather lengthy discussion with T-Mobile about this. The information for the Flex 35 offer is absolutely legit!!
That's right 100% correct!!
I was going to send mine back and have this deal, but in the fullness of the contract, the price works out to be exactly the same...down to the penny!
Basically I get 1/2 price discounts on my bills due to my ties with T-Mobile, hence I pay more for the device..but it all amounts to the same, except I get considerably more minutes etc per month.
Bottom line: If your going to be a new customer to T-Mobile and can comfortably afforf the £40 + per month, it is a fair deal. Total cost for the device and perks of the Flext tariff work out to £839.00 or thereabouts.
Compare that to £600.00 for the cheapest deal the Dopod U1000 (add shipping cost), then your really only paying less than £239.00 for the contract over 18 months which equates to 239/18 = £13.20!!
It will actually work out less than that as in the Dopod U1000 you still have to pay for shipping.
So in reality, your paying (e.g) £600 for the device and about £12.00 per month for the tariff.
Another way to look at it is tariff is £42.50 x 18 = £765.
Therefore £839.00 - £765.00 = £74.00 (for tariff benefits)
74/18 = £4.11 per month over 18 months for Flex 35
Apparently HTC will be selling the X7500 Advantage for a bit over £700.00 SIM free, but no other perks like free minutes etc...hence the inclusion of TomTom6.
They all work out to be roughly the same. You get what you pay for and none is actually cheaper than the other.
You simply have to chose which 'package' best suits your needs. Whichever version you buy, no one has got any cheaper than you as we don't know their payment history and Loyalty points awarded in the form of £'s discounted and for what reason they got high or low discounts.
I get low discounts on upgrades or new device/contract, because I always get 1/2 bills on contract tariff, but someone else may have several low cost tariffs, but pay the full bill and thus gets a higher Loyalty reward in discounts (this applies to service providers only).
You may seemingly get the device considerably cheaper at T-Mobile or at a small SP signing you up with T-Mobile, but with a less fulfilling tariff or at a higher rate.
It all sounds terribly confusing, but it's actually quite simple when you think about it and makes perfect sense.
None of these companies lose, but neither do the customers, as we have different 'packages' or 'bundles' with service providers or sellers of other variants of the Sim free Athena.
It all works out fairly in the end....trust me.
WTF!!!! Your post is Very long & 99% garbage.... i dont want tomtom 6 in my htc x7500. also i dont want any whatsoever accessories with it. i only want the pocket pc possibly without the box so the price cuts down. bloody hell they prolly charge me £100 more for the tomtom sheit. Also the gps sux in athena. it heats up the device so much and drains the battery like mad sheit. i am going to disable gps and use my holux gps that i bought for my universal. also i already have tomtom 6 which is basically free on the net and you can download maps. who dont know how to do that can buy the sheit for £100 whatever (noobs). So the device really costs only £450-£500!!! hahahaha. Whoever get HTC X7500 for £700-£800 getting madly ripped off.
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WTF!!!! Your post is Very long & 99% garbage.... i dont want tomtom 6 in my htc x7500. also i dont want any whatsoever accessories with it. i only want the pocket pc possibly without the box so the price cuts down. bloody hell they prolly charge me £100 more for the tomtom sheit. Also the gps sux in athena. it heats up the device so much and drains the battery like mad sheit. i am going to disable gps and use my holux gps that i bought for my universal. also i already have tomtom 6 which is basically free on the net and you can download maps. who dont know how to do that can buy the sheit for £100 whatever (noobs). So the device really costs only £450-£500!!! hahahaha. Whoever get HTC X7500 for £700-£800 getting madly ripped off.
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man, what he say is very true, he basically just break down the price for all these three device. Advantage will cost the most, yes it will be over £700 so you won't get it under £500!!! Beside, i have the DOPOD U1000 with me and i can tell you this, GPS works really good, no heating up at all and is the same speed as my TomTom official BT receiver.
So if you really want to wait for the Black one, be prepare to spend over £650 at least!
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man, what he say is very true, he basically just break down the price for all these three device. Advantage will cost the most, yes it will be over £700 so you won't get it under £500!!! Beside, i have the DOPOD U1000 with me and i can tell you this, GPS works really good, no heating up at all and is the same speed as my TomTom official BT receiver.
So if you really want to wait for the Black one, be prepare to spend over £650 at least!
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Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.
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Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.
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btw, you do know i have direct relation with the HTC, i think i know what i am talking. So, shut your mouth....
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Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.
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I'm beginning to realize from your posts that you really are a bit of a trouble maker and wind-up merchant. You don't seem to contribute anything of value on this forum until someone else has already done so. You only appear to be retarded, IMHO based on your comments...your actually quite immature and selfish in your way of thinking.
You don't even seem to consider that posts are meant to be of use to others. You haven't even got your X7500 yet do you? If you have, you should change your signature to reflect this and secondly...check yourself...because you obviously don't even understand the 'long' posts.
There is a huge difference between being pedantic, boring and detailed in ones instructions/description of things. You seem to comprehend only boring...showing your lack of maturity. Oh and for the record, my verbal abuse is a deliberate act of showing my frustration of some peoples stupid and thoughtless expressions of their flawed way of thinking or lack thereof.
U get me harry? Do u like it more like this?
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btw, you do know i have direct relation with the HTC, i think i know what i am talking. So, shut your mouth....
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I like to fight. Well I will show the bill when i get my athena in april. I know someone else on this forum also posted pictures of their T-Mobile Ameo's shopping bill, it was 500Euros just as Arya had said with contract ^^... thanks Arya.
Also wu5262 i contacted the shop so many time and he told me so many times that device only costs $1000CDN without any addons. And i place my pre-order already. He already only has 5 pre-order. I am very lucky. I know wu5262 how you feel very sad you got ripped off on your dopod u1000
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I like to fight. Well I will show the bill when i get my athena in april. I know someone else on this forum also posted pictures of their T-Mobile Ameo's shopping bill, it was 500Euros just as Arya had said with contract ^^... thanks Arya.
Also wu5262 i contacted the shop so many time and he told me so many times that device only costs $1000CDN without any addons. And i place my pre-order already. He already only has 5 pre-order. I am very lucky. I know wu5262 how you feel very sad you got ripped off on your dopod u1000
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Talking what you don't know again? Talk when you can prove what you say...twat!
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Talking what you don't know again? Talk when you can prove what you say...twat!
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Yea okay i will ask him to send me a invoice or an official quote. Then I can post it here. btw stop picking on me because i havent got my athena yet. because i know when i will get it you all will trade me your athena's for mine ^^. The WOW effect
@nowclear..in the head.
Maybe you should stop fighting....you've taken too many blows when you've been beaten...it shows. Hahahahahahaha ROFL. LMAO.
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@nowclear..in the head.
Maybe you should stop fighting....you've taken too many blows when you've been beaten...it shows. Hahahahahahaha ROFL. LMAO.
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Man stop spamming already. i got my message through to you. you got blown off!
Enough already..
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btw stop picking on me ...
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Now you sound like a wimp...Mr I like to fight.
As I said to the last person who picked an argument with me here. It's all pointless bickering...I too have a tendancy to be up for a fight..but that's no way to be.
How about we start all over again...and you stop criticising other peoples posts. If you don't agree and actually know something to the controary, by all means say it...nicely...and people will have more respect for you.
If you've continues this nonesense whilst I've been reading this, I'm going to ignore it. Time to get back to the real world and start problem solving and sharing our findings with others.
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Now you sound like a wimp...Mr I like to fight.
As I said to the last person who picked an argument with me here. It's all pointless bickering...I too have a tendancy to be up for a fight..but that's no way to be.
How about we start all over again...and you stop criticising other peoples posts. If you don't agree and actually know something to the controary, by all means say it...nicely...and people will have more respect for you.
If you've continues this nonesense whilst I've been reading this, I'm going to ignore it. Time to get back to the real world and start problem solving and sharing our findings with others.
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Yea I woud like to see this problem of the micro-drive when i get my athena. maybe i can refer back to this thread.
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Yea I woud like to see this problem of the micro-drive when i get my athena. maybe i can refer back to this thread.
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OK truce it is then.
Oh yes..that is what wu has been referring to all along concerning the X7500's ROM...it doesn't handle writing to the Micro Drive well, with all sorts of issues, hence the delay in it's release. Hopefully they will have it sorted in time though.
My thread about WM5torage is not about WM5torage, as it is not knew software, but it is a brilliant workaround for direct file transfer to the built-in (non removable Micro Drive).
Hope you understand us now. You'll see anyway, when your X7500 comes.
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OK truce it is then.
Oh yes..that is what wu has been referring to all along concerning the X7500's ROM...it doesn't handle writing to the Micro Drive well, with all sorts of issues, hence the delay in it's release. Hopefully they will have it sorted in time though.
My thread about WM5torage is not about WM5torage, as it is not knew software, but it is a brilliant workaround for direct file transfer to the built-in (non removable Micro Drive).
Hope you understand us now. You'll see anyway, when your X7500 comes.
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finally, the fight is over.....anyway
mackaby007, the problem on your Ameo is not the same as Advantage, your issue is new and never been reported by the tester.
Let me say it clear again, the Micro Drive problem that the Advantage has is to do with their Rom, the problem is, for example if you are watching a movie from your Micro drive on the road, and you accidentally shake by any means, the Micro Drive should stop working for a tiny mini second and resume working after that. That's what Ameo and Dopod is doing, but with Advantage, it's not doing that, it doesn't stop at the correct moment and it doesn't resume correctly, this wrong behavior actually make the Micro Drive drain more battery and result in more bad sector on the Micro Drive. I can insure you this problem will be solve before they release it.
Anyway, i don't really care how much you will get your Advantage for nuclear, you haven't got it yet. And no, i do not want to swap mine to yours because i don't want the black one, so i simply don't care about it.
Hi,
Just wondering if there is any invoice/ bill can show to the community that the device is less than 750USD (1000Candian dollar)
I am very interest to see as I just get rip off by my telco in Hong Kong.
(1000USD with accessories included)
BTW, for people interest about the pricing, Hong Kong list price is 9880HKD with accessories pack. (GPS.. etc..)
Regards,
Jamess
jameshuang said:
Hi,
Just wondering if there is any invoice/ bill can show to the community that the device is less than 750USD (1000Candian dollar)
I am very interest to see as I just get rip off by my telco in Hong Kong.
(1000USD with accessories included)
BTW, for people interest about the pricing, Hong Kong list price is 9880HKD with accessories pack. (GPS.. etc..)
Regards,
Jamess
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no one got it at 750 USD right now, apart from the T-mobile Ameo, but that is with contract. The person who says he got pre-order for 750USD, well, he hasn't got his device yet. I think the price you got are pretty reasonable. The best price i can get for DOPOD U1000 in taiwan is £600
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i would like to know if anyone has experience with handtec.co.uk.
i received my Leo and it was faulty.so i sent it back on saturday.royal mail SD says it was delivered but no response from them.i tried their live support and it seems it is a joke.no answer what so ever.should i be worried?
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Hi
i would like to know if anyone has experience with handtec.co.uk.
i received my Leo and it was faulty.so i sent it back on saturday.royal mail SD says it was delivered but no response from them.i tried their live support and it seems it is a joke.no answer what so ever.should i be worried?
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Strange, I bought my phone from them...arrived on time, i called them up a few times to get a price match...always answered did it without hesitation. Have you tried calling them? I was a bit unsure of using them...but the amount of positive reviews on google persuaded me...also if you dont mind me asking what was wrong with the phone?
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Strange, I bought my phone from them...arrived on time, i called them up a few times to get a price match...always answered did it without hesitation. Have you tried calling them? I was a bit unsure of using them...but the amount of positive reviews on google persuaded me...also if you dont mind me asking what was wrong with the phone?
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yes i heve tried to call but they said stuff i knew from their web already.no particular thing about my return request.
and the fault was that the Volume Up button did not work at all.it was inoperative.
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Hi
i would like to know if anyone has experience with handtec.co.uk.
i received my Leo and it was faulty.so i sent it back on saturday.royal mail SD says it was delivered but no response from them.i tried their live support and it seems it is a joke.no answer what so ever.should i be worried?
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Hi,
Have ordered a few things from them and have been impressed by prices and accessibility of support. I used their chat offering today concerning my own order for an HD2 -- quite responsive and helpful - though that's not getting me my phone any faster. I get the distinct impression that they are underwater servicing the back load of HD2 orders they have with a recent shipment arrival from HTC.
I wouldn't write off their chat based service and know they're having problems keeping up at this time.
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Hi,
Have ordered a few things from them and have been impressed by prices and accessibility of support. I used their chat offering today concerning my own order for an HD2 -- quite responsive and helpful - though that's not getting me my phone any faster. I get the distinct impression that they are underwater servicing the back load of HD2 orders they have with a recent shipment arrival from HTC.
I wouldn't write off their chat based service and know they're having problems keeping up at this time.
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ok.maybe i just don`t feel comfortable when my 500£ phone is away and i don`t know what`s happening.please don`t get me wrong here i have long experience with internet shoping but when i ever returned stuff i always got an confirmation as soon as they got it and i knew they working on it.but never heard from these guys.
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ok.maybe i just don`t feel comfortable when my 500£ phone is away and i don`t know what`s happening.please don`t get me wrong here i have long experience with internet shoping but when i ever returned stuff i always got an confirmation as soon as they got it and i knew they working on it.but never heard from these guys.
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I've dealt with handtec before, never had any issues..
did you get a rma from them before you sent it?
polystirenman said:
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i would like to know if anyone has experience with handtec.co.uk.
i received my Leo and it was faulty.so i sent it back on saturday.royal mail SD says it was delivered but no response from them.i tried their live support and it seems it is a joke.no answer what so ever.should i be worried?
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I wouldn't be particularly worried. On the plus side you sent it SD so therefore you are covered up to £500 in compensation for lost or damaged goods. What makes it complicated is the fact that it has been signed for, so I suppose you can't call it lost.
Don't worry though, all will be well.
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I've dealt with handtec before, never had any issues..
did you get a rma from them before you sent it?
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yeap.i did everything that was in the instructions.
Have dealt with Handtec a while ago and was impressed. They are one of the few retailers that offer no-fuss international delivery.
Never had to RMA anything with them, but as long as you have received a delivery confirmation from the post office/Royal Mail/whomever, then as far as the courts are concerned, the device is their responsibility if it's lost/stolen/damaged/etc.
I'd just be a bit patient. They're probably flat-out fulfilling dispatch orders this week. They'll get around to your RMA soon. If they haven't acknowledged receipt by, say Wednesday, give 'em a call.
I'm in Australia and have bought both the HD1 and now the HD2 from Handtec. They've been excellent all round. Had to RMA the HD1, and they were fast and informative. So far, the HD2 experience has been very satisfying with them. I regularly recommend them to people.
great shop.
24h fedex shipment for my hd2 on release date.
thank you all for your replies.it helped a lot.this forum has always been great.
so i am going to wait and if no answer from them til thursday i will give them a call.
it's horrible.i have been waiting for HD2 so long and now i have to wait again.
thank you all again.
I am thinking about using them too. See a great deal on there. Seems like most people rate them pretty high. I have had a look around to see what people had to say about them and overall people say they are good.
Once I make the order I will post back to let people know how it went.
So I totally dropped my phone and shattered my screen today. The phone worked for about an hour then it died. I charged it and when I turned it back on and tried to use it, the screen totally got screwed up and I couldnt do anything.
Its pretty bogus that TMO wants me to pay them another $130 for a replacement phone and if I dont return the broken phone within 15 days, they will charge me another $300.
My GF doesnt really like hers. The APPs are way too expensive. I think she might be going back to her G1. Im seriously thinking about a Nexus One, but would have to dish out another $279 for that phone.
Im torn, i like the phone but Ive had so many issues with service, dropped calls and things not working like they should.
what are your thoughts? Ill try and take a pic of the screen with my GFs cam at some point.
Thanks for listening.
Jason
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So I totally dropped my phone and shattered my screen today. The phone worked for about an hour then it died. I charged it and when I turned it back on and tried to use it, the screen totally got screwed up and I couldnt do anything.
Its pretty bogus that TMO wants me to pay them another $130 for a replacement phone and if I dont return the broken phone within 15 days, they will charge me another $300.
My GF doesnt really like hers. The APPs are way too expensive. I think she might be going back to her G1. Im seriously thinking about a Nexus One, but would have to dish out another $279 for that phone.
Im torn, i like the phone but Ive had so many issues with service, dropped calls and things not working like they should.
what are your thoughts? Ill try and take a pic of the screen with my GFs cam at some point.
Thanks for listening.
Jason
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Wow, sorry to hear that man Did you manage to shatter it even with the rubberized case that came with it still on? I have mine on there at all times, but I'm still terrfied I'm gonna do exactly what you did.
If I were in your exact situation right now, I'd take your gf's HD2, and get her a mytouch slide. You get another chance with what can truly be an awesome phone, and she gets the latest android phone tmo has (or will have very soon) with a hardware qwerty....and, maybe even less out of pocket than the other options.
Sorry to hear that...That's exactly what I'm afraid also. Just texted the wife telling her to take care of that beauty cause one drop and it's gone
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Wow, sorry to hear that man Did you manage to shatter it even with the rubberized case that came with it still on? I have mine on there at all times, but I'm still terrfied I'm gonna do exactly what you did.
If I were in your exact situation right now, I'd take your gf's HD2, and get her a mytouch slide. You get another chance with what can truly be an awesome phone, and she gets the latest android phone tmo has (or will have very soon) with a hardware qwerty....and, maybe even less out of pocket than the other options.
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How can the HD2 be a powerful phone with all the problems it has? Ive had it replaced already because of the shotty service I was getting in places I had great service with my G1. Even with the flashing of several different ROMs, the phone froze all the time. The only problem with getting her one of the MyTouch Slides is that we used our upgrade eligibility to get the HD2's, so we would have to pay FULL price for the phone. She does really miss the Android market.
Yes, had the rubber case on it, but it landed on the corner of the screen. The rubber case doesnt go over the screen.
So whats the deal with TMO getting the crap end of the stick with phones these days?
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How can the HD2 be a powerful phone with all the problems it has? Ive had it replaced already because of the shotty service I was getting in places I had great service with my G1. Even with the flashing of several different ROMs, the phone froze all the time. The only problem with getting her one of the MyTouch Slides is that we used our upgrade eligibility to get the HD2's, so we would have to pay FULL price for the phone. She does really miss the Android market.
Yes, had the rubber case on it, but it landed on the corner of the screen. The rubber case doesnt go over the screen.
So whats the deal with TMO getting the crap end of the stick with phones these days?
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Well, it has been for me and others as well...since you were asking, I thought you were saying you thought it might be worth another chance. Did you get a chance to try the new upgrade from Tmo?
I was confused too, when you said you'd have to pay $279 for the N1...I thought that indicated you had an upgrade available to you yet.
And yes, I did notice that the rubber case doesn't go over the screen. I was asking because without that it's possible to have the screen shatter even if the impact point isn't on the face of it.
I just havent had the best luck with this phone. Seems like it has lots of potential but its not fairing very well so far. The $279 was a price I pulled from the site. I dobubt TMO would take their phone back and give me some kind of credit on a different phone even with the phone insurance. Hell TMO doesnt even sell the N1.
What new upgrade are you referring too? Was it an upgrade to the stock rom? Ive been using a flashed ROM, so didnt see that there was an upgrade available.
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I just havent had the best luck with this phone. Seems like it has lots of potential but its not fairing very well so far. The $279 was a price I pulled from the site. I dobubt TMO would take their phone back and give me some kind of credit on a different phone even with the phone insurance. Hell TMO doesnt even sell the N1.
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That's correct, you have to just take the replacement phone of the same model, since it's done through the insurance company totally independent of tmo...they're just the ones who sold you the policy. I honestly was under the impression that the deductible was $100 for the HD2, but if they told you $130 then it must be $130.
I think that the $279 price for the N1 is for new lines and maybe upgrades, but it's honestly been a while since I priced it out.
If you end up deciding to get your HD2 replaced for now, feel free to PM me if you want and I'll do whatever I can to help you avoid having so many issues this time.
What new upgrade are you referring too? Was it an upgrade to the stock rom? Ive been using a flashed ROM, so didnt see that there was an upgrade available.
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LOL That's funny because just 5 minutes before I saw your post I was having a conversation with one of the moderators about how there had been a rediculous number of new threads started in the past 48 hours about the new Tmo ROM update
It was pretty much known that it was coming soon, and a couple of days ago somebody found a backdoor to the file on tmo's servers, before they had announced it. A bunch of people (m'self included) grabbed it right away, but it now looks like tmo has pulled the old switcheroo and substitued some oddball incompatible ROM in it's place for the time being (from the Dash, or something equally goofy). Hopefully they'll greenlight it officially soon...this exact thing happend with the tmo TP2 upgrade earlier this year too. I'll be happy to get you a copy, if you have an easy way to transfer a 200MB file You can check out the threads here in the general section about it, there's a lot of reports of what's different, etc.
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That's correct, you have to just take the replacement phone of the same model, since it's done through the insurance company totally independent of tmo...they're just the ones who sold you the policy. I honestly was under the impression that the deductible was $100 for the HD2, but if they told you $130 then it must be $130.
I think that the $279 price for the N1 is for new lines and maybe upgrades, but it's honestly been a while since I priced it out.
If you end up deciding to get your HD2 replaced for now, feel free to PM me if you want and I'll do whatever I can to help you avoid having so many issues this time.
LOL That's funny because just 5 minutes before I saw your post I was having a conversation with one of the moderators about how there had been a rediculous number of new threads started in the past 48 hours about the new Tmo ROM update
It was pretty much known that it was coming soon, and a couple of days ago somebody found a backdoor to the file on tmo's servers, before they had announced it. A bunch of people (m'self included) grabbed it right away, but it now looks like tmo has pulled the old switcheroo and substitued some oddball incompatible ROM in it's place for the time being (from the Dash, or something equally goofy). Hopefully they'll greenlight it officially soon...this exact thing happend with the tmo TP2 upgrade earlier this year too. I'll be happy to get you a copy, if you have an easy way to transfer a 200MB file You can check out the threads here in the general section about it, there's a lot of reports of what's different, etc.
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That does kind of suck that I cant get a different phone. Oh well. I may still purchase the replacement phone. The N1 price was for eligible upgrades.
Thanks for the offering of help. I read one of the threads saying it was a Dash file now. Damn TMO. I only read the one thread. Didnt seem like much was different. Have you tried 4shared dot com to upload the ROM too? So since its not "official" than it has to be flashed? But if it were official then it would get sent to the phone from TMO?
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That does kind of suck that I cant get a different phone. Oh well. I may still purchase the replacement phone. The N1 price was for eligible upgrades.
Thanks for the offering of help. I read one of the threads saying it was a Dash file now. Damn TMO. I only read the one thread. Didnt seem like much was different. Have you tried 4shared dot com to upload the ROM too? So since its not "official" than it has to be flashed? But if it were official then it would get sent to the phone from TMO?
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Actually, our handy-dandy moderator zelendel has created a link where you can grab it if you want to check it out: Tmo HD2 ROM upgrade
Now, one of the underlying differences between WM and Android is that any updates to WM must be applied manually, even official ones. They come in the form of a full ROM upgrade, not in "patches"...and they're never OTA or direct to the phone. Official carrier or manufacturer issued ROM updates are applied by you running a .exe file on your PC desktop that handles all the flashing for you, over USB. Custom ROMs of course have a more involved/complicated process.
This upgrade at that link has the usual "offical update" installer....but Tmo has obviously decided to hold off on letting us have sanctioned access to it just yet. But, the one they finally release will likely be very close to this one we're playing with now.
Thanks for the link and the information. After using the G1 phone for week, I quickly remembered why I didnt want that phone anymore. So last thursday, I ended up ordering a phone from the "insurance". The phone came today. My GF says, they sent me an complete phone package, with case, battery, ear piece, manual and alls I got to do is send back the phone.
I wonder if the phone comes with the update on it already!
I probably wont be able to play with it until tonight, more than likely tomorrow though. Im swamped at work and will more than likely work late tonight.
sirphunkee said:
Actually, our handy-dandy moderator zelendel has created a link where you can grab it if you want to check it out: Tmo HD2 ROM upgrade
Now, one of the underlying differences between WM and Android is that any updates to WM must be applied manually, even official ones. They come in the form of a full ROM upgrade, not in "patches"...and they're never OTA or direct to the phone. Official carrier or manufacturer issued ROM updates are applied by you running a .exe file on your PC desktop that handles all the flashing for you, over USB. Custom ROMs of course have a more involved/complicated process.
This upgrade at that link has the usual "offical update" installer....but Tmo has obviously decided to hold off on letting us have sanctioned access to it just yet. But, the one they finally release will likely be very close to this one we're playing with now.
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I snagged the update on the first go around the leaked version and let me tell you it has worked wonders!!!! it has been about two weeks and I have not had the Sleep Screen of Death or any of my other issues! I read about complaints when people downloaded the official one on the 18th but it looks likes they pulled that one because they where having more issues than it fixed?!
So is the moderator link the "official" download, or the leaked version?
IllusiveDreams said:
So is the moderator link the "official" download, or the leaked version?
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It the same one I pulled from the T-mobile site before it was removed.
zelendel said:
It the same one I pulled from the T-mobile site before it was removed.
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Cool, so its not the broken latest version...woohoo!
It's the same one. There is no difference between the one that was leaked and the one that was removed from T-mobiles website this weekend.
so why am I hearing/reading conflicting reports, some say its great, others say more stuff is broken.
Because not everyone uses their phone in the same way or with the same expectations. I upgraded this past weekend and haven't had any problems but I also haven't opened up every app and setting to look for everything that has changed. YMMV
What do you think it is going to be like on the 16th? When BestBuy says stuff like this
There will be no pre-orders on the Nexus S. Units will be distributed on a first-come-first-served basis on launch day. We will use a ticketing system much like we do on Black Friday to allocate inventory and keep the process organized.
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it worries me I mean because Id hate to be without a phone until I found an NS..I have 3 Bestbuys within 20 minutes of me and are pretty sure even if the demand is high enough for them to need to use a ticketing system. or maybe the supply is low? But either way If i have to wake up at 7AM to be there when they open I will
Just curious as to what you all think?
I am not worrying about it. People here seem not very into those modern toys. There are two Bestbuys nearby. I guess I'll just drop by when I wake up.
slowz3r said:
Just curious as to what you all think?
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I really have no clue and wish I did
I think there will be a VERY tiny amount of people that actually know / are ready to buy the Nexus-S on it's debut date but one of the smart guys on here suggested going to a best buy that doesn't sell T-mobile handsets in order to increase your chances.
I'd say you would def be able to get your phone on the day of launch though
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I really have no clue and wish I did
I think there will be a VERY tiny amount of people that actually know / are ready to buy the Nexus-S on it's debut date but one of the smart guys on here suggested going to a best buy that doesn't sell T-mobile handsets in order to increase your chances.
I'd say you would def be able to get your phone on the day of launch though
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Ya, i figure get there when they open and you should be good if anything
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Ya, i figure get there when they open and you should be good if anything
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Yeah you'll be fine
I mean, in the entire 10 months I've had the Nexus-1 I've only seen one other person with it. Chances are it will be the same for the Nexus-S and you will get it no problems
ap3604 said:
Yeah you'll be fine
I mean, in the entire 10 months I've had the Nexus-1 I've only seen one other person with it. Chances are it will be the same for the Nexus-S and you will get it no problems
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ya ive only seen one person with a N1 as well but you forget the N1 was only sold online and not advertised at all...maybe we will see an ad campaign starting Monday
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ya ive only seen one person with a N1 as well but you forget the N1 was only sold online and not advertised at all...maybe we will see an ad campaign starting Monday
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True, very true, good points. It wouldn't surprise me to see a TV advertisement since Google made that commercial with the view were your looking at the persons feet the whole time.
Im sure they will seeing as the N1 was a "marketing failure" but i really hope we dont end up seeing every other person with a NS...thats why i loved the N1, very unique
Personally, I think your chances of grabbing one are good. It seems to be very similar to the galaxy line, and if samsumg sold 3 million in the us, I know those folks won't be ready to shell out $600.00 four months later.
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I am gonna ask my dad, to pick one for me from Cincinnati - Best Buy. There are 3 in cincinnati, I guess. I hope he gets to pick one after 3-4 days from there. Say by 20th December.
I stopped by my local best buys all of which dont carry tmobile and all of which have NOOOO idea about the Nexus and are saying they wont be getting it because it is a Tmobile device
Bestbuy is sooo assbackwards they have no idea whats going on with the device
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I stopped by my local best buys all of which dont carry tmobile and all of which have NOOOO idea about the Nexus and are saying they wont be getting it because it is a Tmobile device
Bestbuy is sooo assbackwards they have no idea whats going on with the device
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Did you read their FAQ? They stated that they are currently spreading the news among all Best Buys. It just takes time and if the manager of the stores don't tell the employees, then expect to hear that from the employees.
The Nexus S doesn't have the popularity of the iPhone, so I'd assume supply/demand will just be fine. Possibly, a Best Buy located in a populated area would get more in stock than those that aren't. Just my guess.
DKYang said:
Did you read their FAQ? They stated that they are currently spreading the news among all Best Buys. It just takes time and if the manager of the stores don't tell the employees, then expect to hear that from the employees.
The Nexus S doesn't have the popularity of the iPhone, so I'd assume supply/demand will just be fine. Possibly, a Best Buy located in a populated area would get more in stock than those that aren't. Just my guess.
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ya i know, im just trying to be sure, because Id hate to be without a phone, I do business on my phone so not having one would really suck.
Talking to some managers they said that Sunday is the "new product ad drop"
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ya ive only seen one person with a N1 as well but you forget the N1 was only sold online and not advertised at all...maybe we will see an ad campaign starting Monday
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Ive only seen 1 person also
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Am I the only one seeing the Nexus S ads on these very forums? (HTC ads come up too).
It's funny talking about the Nexus S with the ad flying around in that ad bar...
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Am I the only one seeing the Nexus S ads on these very forums? (HTC ads come up too).
It's funny talking about the Nexus S with the ad flying around in that ad bar...
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I believe the ads are handled by google so figure if your searching for Nexus S on google you will get targeted ads, and this is a phone site so it makes sense
Only 157 best buy mobile stores will have the phone, thats the latest info i heard
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Only 157 best buy mobile stores will have the phone, thats the latest info i heard
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From where or is this a secret source that you can't tell us? Just wandering.
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From where or is this a secret source that you can't tell us? Just wandering.
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Ive been on the phone with Best Buy/NExus S Call center since 10 AM PST and up until 4PM I was told that they have no information that they can tell me. But then on one of my batches of calls they all told me the same thing, 157 Best Buy stores/Best buy mobile will be getting them.
But i was also told buy one of the reps, who i talked to for a good 45 minutes about the subject that they get new information every day and i should continue calling them because they give out info as they get it
He says that by the 14th they should have information as to what stores will be getting the NS.
Take it for what its worth, thats just the info i got from them . Just doing some digging of my own but i will be calling to see if there is anything new they can tell me and ill keep you guys updated if anything
You know, I really don't think it'll be out of stock. You should be able to get a piece easily.
In the process of returning my second phone now for this issue... what a pain. Glad to see they recognized it as a problem though!
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsIW_gxTpXX3s/?hl=by
They mentioned all devices manufactured after Jan 2017 should not have this issue. I received my phone 2 weeks ago. Is there a way to find out when my phone was manufactured?
Not sure, but I will say that I doubt I will be purchasing a phone from google again... spent half my day trying to get expedited shipping with no luck from them (this is a business phone).
You're not going to buy a phone because you can't get expedited shipping? That makes sense.
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You're not going to buy a phone because you can't get expedited shipping? That makes sense.
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It's kind of important when it's a business phone. Heck it's important when it isn't business.
Frankly I see nothing wrong with taking your money where it benefits you best, regardless of how trivial someone else might find the gripe.
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It's kind of important when it's a business phone. Heck it's important when it isn't business.
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Come on, really? Get an inferior device because you can't wait another day or so? I guess I'm just not that impatient and I can use my current device for the interminable wait period of 2 days.
bobby janow said:
Come on, really? Get an inferior device because you can't wait another day or so? I guess I'm just not that impatient and I can use my current device for the interminable wait period of 2 days.
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Inferior is subjective. Look at your convenient situation though of having another phone.
If it was my work phone I couldn't simply use another phone. It's not that easy.
It's a MICROPHONE issue, not Speakerphone.
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They mentioned all devices manufactured after Jan 2017 should not have this issue. I received my phone 2 weeks ago. Is there a way to find out when my phone was manufactured?
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I would like to know how to find out as well. Went through the "About Phone" but didn't come across anything. I purchased mine a little over a week ago from a corporate Verizon store, but no telling how long it had been sitting there in stock.
The only way to tell is by getting a refurbished one directly from Google.
How to check manufacturer date & where is it made from.
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I would like to know how to find out as well. Went through the "About Phone" but didn't come across anything. I purchased mine a little over a week ago from a corporate Verizon store, but no telling how long it had been sitting there in stock.
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Website to check date place:
http://llabtoofer.com/2015/12/14/htc-devices-serial-number-explanation/
Google forums: "Help Finding Google Pixels Build Date"
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsZhQiMegDp6E/?hl=by
I don't have microphone issue but speaker crackling only heard that in paino app I don't hear it on phone calls or games...
2016/10/13 from Taiwan got my device in December after a month from join list to get black 128gb but for a short while the 128 silver was available so I got it.
Thank you so much! My Pixel XL serial number is HT723 so i guess it is manufactured on 2017Feb3 according to the link above.
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They mentioned all devices manufactured after Jan 2017 should not have this issue. I received my phone 2 weeks ago. Is there a way to find out when my phone was manufactured?
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If Serial sticker label on the Box says Rev B then you've got the revised version and you should be ok.
Just got off the phone with Project Fi to process an RMA. Mine was manufactured 01/23/2017 and got the microphone issue.
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Inferior is subjective. Look at your convenient situation though of having another phone.
If it was my work phone I couldn't simply use another phone. It's not that easy.
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Importance is subjective, as well, but considering not getting expedited shipping is probably not actually affecting your business I'd say the importance should objectively be somewhat low.
Also, if this is a work phone and you're trying to get it today, there are literally stores everywhere that could sell it to you, in person. Aside from a locked bootloader, they're the exact same phone.
This is all irrelevant, because we know nothing about what (s)he was talking about, above. He very-well could have been trying to get Google to give him *free* expedited shipping for some reason, in which case none of this matters. I highly doubt he was just ordering a new phone and they were refusing to let him buy expedited shipping.
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Importance is subjective, as well, but considering not getting expedited shipping is probably not actually affecting your business I'd say the importance should objectively be somewhat low.
Also, if this is a work phone and you're trying to get it today, there are literally stores everywhere that could sell it to you, in person. Aside from a locked bootloader, they're the exact same phone.
This is all irrelevant, because we know nothing about what (s)he was talking about, above. He very-well could have been trying to get Google to give him *free* expedited shipping for some reason, in which case none of this matters. I highly doubt he was just ordering a new phone and they were refusing to let him buy expedited shipping.
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You lost me at there literally being stores everywhere that have the phone. Given the time I posted my response people were still waiting on shipments. And no importance isn't subjective when it comes to work communications. At least not for me. But hey we don't know his situation or anyone elses so it's kind of whatever at this point. Especially a month after the comment was made.
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You lost me at there literally being stores everywhere that have the phone. Given the time I posted my response people were still waiting on shipments. And no importance isn't subjective when it comes to work communications. At least not for me. But hey we don't know his situation or anyone elses so it's kind of whatever at this point. Especially a month after the comment was made.
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Are you off your meds again?! How many times are we going to have to tell you not to reply to comments older than a week?! It's causing you to dig up old wounds!:silly:
Jammol said:
Are you off your meds again?! How many times are we going to have to tell you not to reply to comments older than a week?! It's causing you to dig up old wounds!:silly:
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Lol true true.
Hey what rom are you running
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Lol true true.
Hey what rom are you running
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Bone stock at the moment. Waiting for beans! Lol. I can only run custom roms on the weekends.:crying:
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Bone stock at the moment. Waiting for beans! Lol. I can only run custom roms on the weekends.:crying:
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Yeah I've been jumping around also. Waiting on the new PN. Kind of bummed Samsung caught on and killed Samsung pay on rooted non Sammy devices pair to the S3.