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WiFi and GPRS frustration

I have a belkin router. It works well with several laptops.
I can connect to it with my JASJAR and get an IP address.
If I sync pop3 email it uses WIFI and works as expected.
If I sync journal bar it uses WIFI and works as expected.
However if I try to use internet explorer it alway tries to start a GPRS session and refuses to work through WIFI. :evil: Why??
Ive sent hours trying every setting I can find.
Anyone have any suggestions? :?:
Jon

At least your Wifi network doesn't crash as soon as u connect the JJ. Mine doesn't even get that far...
Anyone who can help???

Hmmm I wonder if this is something in the Telstra settings Cab.
Re those having problems all on Telstra?
Might try a hard re set and then manually build the settings.
Jon

Try de activating the phone. this allows you to use IE via your wireless router.

Tried that, thanks.
I just get the "Cannot Connect" message and if I dismiss it. Nothing!
However I can sync the weather without getting the "Cannot Connect" box. SO the WiFi is working, its just that Explorer can see it.

Im running the O2 UK firmware and it works fine (auto gives prefernce to the WiFi if I am in range, try loading on the genuine Imate firmware.

Jon
I know how you feel. I can't get wifi to work. Heck, I can't even use IE when synced to the computer via USB :evil:

Have you tried messing with the settings in start/settings/connections/connections?

I finally got it working.
You have to chose the "Telstra Internet" setting in Network Managment.
Its in Settings, Connections, Advanced, Select Networks, select "Telstra Internet".
I then did, Settings, Connections, Manage existing connections, Modem, and set it to "Auto"
It uses the WiFi first and then only uses GPRS if there is no WiFi.
Hope this helps someone else !
Jon

Can anyone help me with just getting my JJ connected to the wifi network without crashing the router?

Have you tried turning off any encryption etc and re booting the router.
Then try to connect at the most basic level?

Now I'm totally confused
I don't know what is going on!
I have finally managed to use IE via Activesync, using "Telstra Internet" as my My network connects to...
I tried again to hook up to the wifi network. The router is connected to my desktop via a physical cable, and my tablet pC is connected wirelessly (my JJ syncs with the tablet). I turned to tablet off, and then connected the JJ to the desktop wirelessly. On the desktop, I am no longer able to connect to the internet, but for some reason, the JJ is able to connect to the internet :shock:
But, even if I disconnect the JJ from the network, my desktop is unable to connect back to the internet until I reboot the router. What does this all mean????

I have the same issue with my MDA Pro! i done even have the sutp option in the modem settings. I can connect to my belkin router with encryption but no response when in IE!
Anyone else got any other suggestions?

I'm beginning to think that nobody has a solution to such connection problems. Is there any hope on the horizon? Any chance of something being sorted out by MS?
BTW, how well does BT syncing/internet connection work?

Ok frustration rising.
I can connect to my Belkin wireless router with no problems but I can only log onto the router and not browse the internet!
I have checked that the proxy is not configured.
Anyone got any ideas?

Nope

VPN via 3G/HSDPA is still unresolved ?

Hi Everyone,
Having the Shift as my workhorse since some moths, there is still one annoyance I couldn't avoid: my VPN connections are interrupting the Internet connection when using 3G/HSDPA modem connecting to Internet in Vista/WM.
I was trying to search through all existing threads, but I still don't see anyone finding a solution.
I think the root lays in WM somewhere, since I cannot establish a PPTP connection in WM neither. In my case it is certainly not caused by the data provider, because I have checked it with them.
Let's try to put our knowledge together to sort this out !

This is normal behaviour I suppose
When connected to the VPN, the VPN must provide you with either a proxy or another internet gateway, otherwise you are just connected to a private network...
Maybe you mean something else, but from what I read it seems like you never got on the internet with VPN active.
If you did, and you are talking about intermittent network errors, then only high performance settings on your power settings may help.
If you could give more info I could help more. IP/Proxy/Gateway/ did it ever work yes no etc.

lucid said:
When connected to the VPN, the VPN must provide you with either a proxy or another internet gateway, otherwise you are just connected to a private network...
Maybe you mean something else, but from what I read it seems like you never got on the internet with VPN active.
If you did, and you are talking about intermittent network errors, then only high performance settings on your power settings may help.
If you could give more info I could help more. IP/Proxy/Gateway/ did it ever work yes no etc.
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Lucid,
Thanks for replying. I will try to explain it another way.
1. When I am connected to Internet via Wifi, I have no problem using my VPN connection. I get authenticated and connected to the company network and the connection stays active as long as I want.
2. Using 3G/HSDPA Internet, the following happens:
- I start the same VPN connection, and get connected.
- Than my 3G/HSDPA connection breaks up, and the PPTP dialin stays alive - it doesn't have any use this way of course.
- When I disconnect from VPN, the 3G connection comes back automatically.
I hope this is more clear this way, any hints are very welcome !

jarbi said:
2. Using 3G/HSDPA Internet, the following happens:
- I start the same VPN connection, and get connected.
- Than my 3G/HSDPA connection breaks up, and the PPTP dialin stays alive - it doesn't have any use this way of course.
- When I disconnect from VPN, the 3G connection comes back automatically.
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Thats exactly the same problem that i have had for over months - it just doesn't work and I can't see any way to get it to work - so much so, I don't use the Shift anymore - got a Tytn II and redfly and just remote desktop to a PC on the work lan!

jarbi said:
Lucid,
Thanks for replying. I will try to explain it another way.
1. When I am connected to Internet via Wifi, I have no problem using my VPN connection. I get authenticated and connected to the company network and the connection stays active as long as I want.
2. Using 3G/HSDPA Internet, the following happens:
- I start the same VPN connection, and get connected.
- Than my 3G/HSDPA connection breaks up, and the PPTP dialin stays alive - it doesn't have any use this way of course.
- When I disconnect from VPN, the 3G connection comes back automatically.
I hope this is more clear this way, any hints are very welcome !
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The VPN that you are running is on VISTA side.(if yes try to see the routing table) by default the VPN get the default GW, and try to change it.
If this is the issue then you can go to the VPN connection properties -> Networking ->TCP/IP -> Properties -> Advanced -> IP Setings -> unchek the use the default GW on remote network.
regards

Is this a problem caused by this vista "feature", which disconnects the 3G Modem from Vista, as soon as an other network is being connected via WLan or via cable?
I think this is a stupid feature. Instead of that the users just should set the metrics for the networks manually and you can be sure, that Vista always uses the WLAN instead of the GSM/3G modem, if both where available.

alazarid said:
The VPN that you are running is on VISTA side.(if yes try to see the routing table) by default the VPN get the default GW, and try to change it.
If this is the issue then you can go to the VPN connection properties -> Networking ->TCP/IP -> Properties -> Advanced -> IP Setings -> unchek the use the default GW on remote network.
regards
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alazarid,
Thanks a ton, the TCP/IP part did the trick ! Now my VPN has a use ).
cheers !

Ok guys heres the issue...
At first I thought this problem was associated with the fact that there may have been some software monitoring for other data connections, to disable the GSM modem when not needed...
After checking into everything, I found that there is probably NO software that does this...
Since WM handles the passthrough for the 3G connection, and ontop of that the actual endpoint for the data connection on the GSM connection is the WM side and not Vista, what happens is what when the VPN creates a connection and you opt-in to use the default remote gateway (I prefer to use it, because I require this for the work I do), the default gateway is updated on the 3G network interface.
I beleive that this update of configuration, then causes the WM side to stop the connection because either a) it doesn't know howto interprit this or b) retries to create the connection because it thinks there is an error.
I havn't played with this for a few weeks, and have my fair shareof other stuff I deal with, so I cannot remember if WM NATs the 3G connection, but the key thing breaking this is the WM side.
I beleive that IF you did want to hack up a configuration that uses the remote gateway, you could configure a VPN connection under Windows Mobile and have WM connect to the VPN, therefor the PC would be using that connection (but wouldn't be aware that its connected to the VPN), therefore giving the user access to the VPN, WITH the remote default gateway being used.
Again, as I mentioned its been a while since ive gone tech on my Shift, but I beleive this is correct. If anyone wants to add anything, please feel free.

WiFI how to make it

Please don't kill me but I want to know
HOW to make use WiFi instead of network on browsers and mail, once I connect?

once you connect you to a wifi network it should be just like using wifi on your computer.
a more specific question or example may allow someone to help you more.

The phone uses Wifi where possible by default. However as my push mail is running over the Vodafone Internet APN I have found some occasions where my browsing session wasn't using Wifi.
So I created my own homepage which tells me the IP address I'm on and works out if it's my wifi router or the Vodafone Internet. It also has all my bookmarks, which is a better than the built in solution from Opera.
If you aren't using the GPRS all day, try NoData which can block all GPRS usage.

artesea said:
The phone uses Wifi where possible by default. However as my push mail is running over the Vodafone Internet APN I have found some occasions where my browsing session wasn't using Wifi.
So I created my own homepage which tells me the IP address I'm on and works out if it's my wifi router or the Vodafone Internet. It also has all my bookmarks, which is a better than the built in solution from Opera.
If you aren't using the GPRS all day, try NoData which can block all GPRS usage.
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Aha, the old friend from MySymbian
Well I'll try that NoData but good to hear X1 wants to use it by default (when connected). I don't use any push messages.

It's a Vodafone ROM thing. if you flash to another ROM it will work fine.

WiFi problem
No man, I have a Vodafone UK Xperia. problem with Wifi initially, then I've ROM it to the generic UK version...now it connects to Wifi but I cannot browse anything with it. The pages don't load and status keeps saying 'loading...' but nothing happens and after a min or so, a message saying that I have to check my internet connection...not connected!

OoLoLo said:
No man, I have a Vodafone UK Xperia. problem with Wifi initially, then I've ROM it to the generic UK version...now it connects to Wifi but I cannot browse anything with it. The pages don't load and status keeps saying 'loading...' but nothing happens and after a min or so, a message saying that I have to check my internet connection...not connected!
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Then you have your Wifi settings incorrect.

How come u say my Wifi settings are incorrect? How can I correct it? In wat way? my laptop etc connects to the Wifi fine...and the phone as well...but it just that the phone doesnt seem to load anything from internet when I'm connected.

First Check if you used the correct Key for your wifi if thats fine then ....
I've never had this problem with the xperia but I have had with other windows mobile phones it was probable because of older versions of windows mobile, if wifi is connected fine go to Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections -> Advanced Tab -> Select Networks, then select My Network for both drop downs.

OoLoLo said:
How come u say my Wifi settings are incorrect? How can I correct it? In wat way? my laptop etc connects to the Wifi fine...and the phone as well...but it just that the phone doesnt seem to load anything from internet when I'm connected.
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Because you are unable to surf the internet, which points to either the settings entered incorrectly (normally when using WEP) or your router needs a firmware upgrade.

Ok here's a complete answer to my question
HOW to make X1 to connect to WiFi ONLY:
Install NoData (thanks for tip!!!)
Turn this on to NOT transfer any network data.
All the browsers I tried (Opera Mini 4.2, Opera Mobile 9.5)
automatically connect by WiFi, so it's great.
Email NOT. But it's enough to
go to email account settings and in advanced server settings instead of your providers network
choose "The Internet".
Violaa, the email account also connects through WiFi.
Hope that helps somebody

Where do i get no data please

There's one topic here called no data cab file!!
Just find it and it's there!

i got problems with my fritzbox 7270, too.
but i solved it.
just set the 802 adaptor manual to your wifi settings.
free ip adress in your segment, gateway, nameserver.
i think its a dhcp problem, with my 7270.

Windows Live Messenger not working over 3G

Logs in fine when on wi-fi but whenever I try on 3G (on T-mobile UK) get the following messaget:
"There's a connectivity problem. Make sure you're in an area with good reception and try again."
Reception is fine with online browsing and everything else working through the 3G connection. On version 10.6.0042.1900 of Windows Live Messenger. Anyone else had this?

Do you have your data plan connection set up to use a proxy? I found that no matter what I did I could not receive mail or connect to msn over 3G if that setting was enabled.
Just go to Settings->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->(select your connection under Internet)->Edit...->Proxy Settings
Here tick "This network connects to the Internet" and untick "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet".
That fixed my problem. Hope it helps

freshmaker2 said:
Logs in fine when on wi-fi but whenever I try on 3G (on T-mobile UK) get the following messaget:
"There's a connectivity problem. Make sure you're in an area with good reception and try again."
Reception is fine with online browsing and everything else working through the 3G connection. On version 10.6.0042.1900 of Windows Live Messenger. Anyone else had this?
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Maybe t-mobile blocking it? They do say you aren't supposed to use IM.

WhO_KnOwS said:
Do you have your data plan connection set up to use a proxy? I found that no matter what I did I could not receive mail or connect to msn over 3G if that setting was enabled.
Just go to Settings->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->(select your connection under Internet)->Edit...->Proxy Settings
Here tick "This network connects to the Internet" and untick "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet".
That fixed my problem. Hope it helps
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Magic! That's everything working now. Loving the phone. Take it there won't be any time when I will need to tick the use a proxy server setting?
Thanks for the help

I thought messenger was not allowed anymore, beacuse we cannot dowload it, I had the same issue and i solve it reinstalling it from the cab in WL web, but not messenger, just mail.
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WhO_KnOwS said:
Do you have your data plan connection set up to use a proxy? I found that no matter what I did I could not receive mail or connect to msn over 3G if that setting was enabled.
Just go to Settings->Connections->Advanced->Select Networks->(select your connection under Internet)->Edit...->Proxy Settings
Here tick "This network connects to the Internet" and untick "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet".
That fixed my problem. Hope it helps
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OMG!!!
i was searching it on inet everywhere, but the solution was so simpel
you are the best dude

Thank-you so much - can't believe how simple that was!

This hasnt worked for me ;-( getting fed up now, tried everything to get it working. Im o2 payg,....any ideas???

I do this and a few minutes later the proxy server is back again. I cannot stop it from returning. Will a registry edit make it go away permanently?

Mail doent connect through wifi - only with data!

Hi there kind people of XDA.
after installing a new rom I encouter a problem with setting up my gmail account. It seems as if the HTC mail client isn't willing to work with my wifi connection and only working with the data (which is disabled).
when I send/recieve, it tells me that it cannot connect and that I should press - settings. After going into settings I have 3 options for my work connection.
the first one is where I think the problem is:
*add a new modem connection.
after I chose that I've been asked to choose a modem and I dont have a wifi ot the broadcom lan card. only bluetooth, cellular line, cellular line (GPRS) and hayes compatible on COM1.
Any idea?

go to settings, connections, connections, advanced, select networks. Then change the first setting to 'work'. I have a dutch version, so the names might be slightly different.

thanks but I already tried it. The problem is that when setting up a new connection I cant use the broadcom as the connection modem!

Now I know my phone isnt using the same network as you. I have only one cellular account that I connect to. For this example I will call it "My Connection" I have that set in Network management to be the default connection for the internet.
Now when I go to my email connection settings I can choose that connection or a few others. If I choose "My Connection" then the email will only connect though cellular data. But if I choose "Internet" then it will connect through both.
So when I have wifi present I can connect with email, mms, surf with opera, and update weather all through wifi. When my wifi goes down or gets turned off everything reverts to cellular data.

ditto - on 1.48 i get 'Internet' as well as the T-mobile internet and T-mobile MMS settings. internet seems to latch onto anything that has a public ip - and starts with wifi.
I have found that one thing which stops email sync is not wifi/HSDPA data, but rather the exchange domain setting disappearing sporadically.

do u have bsb tweaks the same thing happend to me and in bsb i had wifi disable go in bsb and enable it.

please see if at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639730
you find something which may be of help.