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Hi There,
I am looking to purchase a device; mainly to be used to send/receive e-mail's on the move but also am interested in any extra functionality available to me!!
At the moment I am choosing between this (T-mobile Vario) and the Blackberry 8700. I was wandering if anyone would be willing to give me a quick comparison and maybe a personal reccommendation!!?
Also I was reading in a previous thread about a blackberry add on for the Vario....would anyone be able to give me a rough run-down on how/if that works at all please!!
I appreciate your understanding of my simple questions!!
Many Thanks
Dave
HTC Wizard .. its both cheaper and beter.
What good feature do you see in BlackBerry that HTC Wizard doesn't have?
I'm guessing that you've never used either a PDA or a Blackberry. The reason I say this is because if you had, the differences would be immediately obvious.
Blackberry is good at doing one thing and one thing only: email. There are very few apps available, and even fewer are free. There is no touchscreen. Browsing is difficult because of this, and many programs are a pain for the same reason. WM Smartphones has the same issue.
Both do email, but Blackberry is generally better (for now). What WM PDAs do better than Blackberry is... everything else. Look through these forums (fora?) and see what other people are doing with their PDAs. Anything they can do, NO MATTER THE PDA, you can do with a Wizard, and with very few exceptions, cannot do with a Blackberry.
My boss has a Blackberry from work, and I have a Wizard. I can't get my work email on my Wizard because it's not allowed yet at our organization. BUT, I can browse Outlook Web Access and view it when I want. I also can get my 5 personal email accounts on my Wizard, which he can't do on his Blackberry. Finally, he tried browsing Kelly Blue Book when buying a car, failed miserably and called me, and I looked it up on my Wizard.
Next, I have mapping programs, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, games, astronomy, a camera, dictionary, ebooks, music, videos, pictures, and on and on...
IMHO, anyone who's ever owned even a basic PDA would never bother choosing a Blackberry. You just lose so much functionality. If you don't need that and just want email, go for it.
uwaku said:
Blackberry is good at doing one thing and one thing only: email. There are very few apps available, and even fewer are free.
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Email with Wizard isn't a problem after the last ROM where SyncML for e-mail (push) is supported. You also have VPN support to accessing company networks.
uwaku .. what type of company mail setup do you have? You should not blame the Wizard for that your company don't allow you to connect your e-mail.
Comparing SyncML and BlackBerry.. is BlackBerry even a standard protocol? SyncML is a standard:
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/wg_committees/workinggroups.html
Cool; sounds like the Wizard is definately more for me than the Blackberry....which is what I was leaning towards anyways. The one thing that I did want to know is whether you can get Hotmail on to the Wizard without having to go through the web browser (ie; go to www.hotmail.com).
Many Thanks
yes, hotmail access is pretty good on the wizard, It comes with Pocket MSN, once you've put your username and password into that it will add your hotmail emails and account the the windows email application, so no messing with www.hotmail.com
Hey all,
We're currently evaluating WinMo devices to replace blackberries in our company... thus far the results have been a mixed bag to say the least.
I look after an exchange 2003 environment (SP2) so we're push-email ready, however there's one big thing holding us up - IM.
On the blackberries, we use something called Blackberry Messenger which is capable of both online and offline messages, and pretty infallible. It runs in the background and whenever a user is online handles the sign-on and message delivery, likewise if a user is offline the network queues the message until they're back online.
I can't find anything like this for windows mobile, can anyone suggest soemthing I'm missing? until I have this we're stuck with blackberry...
TIA
German T-Mobile is offering a BlackBerry Software Addon for the MDA Vario - I started a thread a while back right here in the forum.
Since I have no use for Blackberry, etc. I have not installed/used it. But maybe its what you are looking for.
The only way to do (online) IM now on WM5 devices is via PocketMSN I think.
Dont know any alternatives (especially that can handle offline IM).
I'm new here, but....
I know on the PC there is a program that handles offline messaging and it is available on the PocketPC now too. It's called ICQ. You can send a message offline and the person will receive it when they logon.
http://www.icq.com/download/ftp-pocketpc.html
Lemme know if that's what you're looking for.
you can use Agile Messenger.. Lets you use AIM/ICQ/Yahoo/MSN IM accounts. There's a thread someone in here that has the info on it.. just search the forums for Agile Messenger.
You might want to contact Jabber and work out somemthing with them, the idea's mentioned above are good but I know you need something internal (not somthing that has potential use for (ab)use/danger)
http://www.jabber.com/index.cgi?CONTENT_ID=690
Any day now, M$ is gonna release mobile office connect. If you use office connect already this will move the IM client out to WM5.
You can try Saki,
It has the features you mentioned as well as integrated email, RSS feeds, and others. I know a company that chose to use this software and wizards instead of Blackberries.
http://www.sakimobile.com
Let's not forget Microsoft's Live Communication Server (LCS) 2005 with the office communicator SIP client.
Raptor
Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
^^windows live messenger is already preinstalled. u can get the facebook panel and windows live panel in norti's sticky thread.
Amnesia180 said:
Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
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i'm WM beginner from symbian, just owning x1 for third only what I can say is WM need your patience to getting started, lot's of tweaks and softwares to try and to learn. the uses requirement that you asked above can easily done on xperia. anyway, I feel good with my xperia now and it's games much better than symbian one,hehe... plus I reply this message using x1 now^^ so, join us, xda has cookies ))
p.s. what I watched on youtube was the blackberry storm bootup in few seconds! looks miracle....
unfortunately Windows Mobile is much slower than BlackBerry's interface.........
but at least it's the most versatile mobile platform in the world hehe.
ive never owned a blackberry, and the x1a is my first winmo phone too. i like the x1a, only downside is the screen is a little to small for me. i mean the screen resolution is awesome but i sure wish the screen could have been bigger. i mean 3.2" at least. it may not seem like a big difference in numbers between 3 and 3.2 but it is.
if your happy with blackberry's email, i would stick with it and maybe get the storm.
if u dont want touchscreen..then BB Bold is one of the best smartphones out there...very fast interface.
my dad has it.
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
slawrumia said:
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Thanks for that link.
So, this will convert my Winmo to BlackBerry Operating System?
I've read through the topic and I didn't see a mention of it working with o2 UK.. Are these things usually easy to install? Would I need to pay o2 for a BlackBerry tariff... or will unlimited internet tariff still be sufficient?
The problem is, I liked my 8120... but I don't want to ugrade to another 8120, that would be silly! I also like the Storm (but not available on o2). However, the Bold is slightly too big for what I'm looking for... (and has a smaller screen than X1).
However, if you're all saying you like X1's, i think I might give it a shot.
slawrumia said:
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
artesea said:
Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
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No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
Just my two pennies worth having had Blackberrys, quite a few Symbians, the iPhone and now my fourth WinMo...
going to WinMo is about getting the flexibility to have almost anything you want, BUT also having the frustrations about bugs, some incompatibilities, flashing new firmwares all the time, etc.
So, if you're patient, willing to use the search button and share you experiences with others, in my view Windows Mobile is the best thing out there today.
Otherwise, get a blackberry or iphone. They rarely crash or go wrong, but are a bit limited.
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No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
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You can do that, and if you have an Exchange server its possible to have true push with ActiveSync.
BadTasteUK; thanks for your input. I have had an o2 XDA before... and that was Winmo. I thought it worked pretty well.
To be honest, I'm not a huge techie, and probably won't be tweaking anything major on the phone. However, I do like the flexibility and option of being able to do so... Hopefully the phone won't have a memory leak my BB 8120 did... my text messages would often delete at least once day due to running out of memory on the phone.
i got a bb bold and a xperia, both are excellent devices i find the bb more stable and faster, the xperia is more configurable and there is loads of software for it ie youtube.
at the moment the bb suits my needs so im using that. it all comes down to what you wanna do with the device.
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
Looks like you've made up your mind Amnesia...
... the pun wasn't intended, honest!
Amnesia180 said:
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
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bb internet browser is poor xperia beats it hands down... sounds like xperia is the answer mate
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
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Badankan78 said:
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
BIG SYNTAXXX ERROR
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Ok, its a phone running Android.
For a start you can tether your internet connection via USB and you can sync with Outlook
Badankan78 said:
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
BIG SYNTAXXX ERROR
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Where did it say it was a business phone?? If anything it's marketed as a multimedia phone!
Most businesses use Exchange and Moxier(included on phone) does a fine job of syncing both contacts, tasks & e-mail. So i'm happy.
As far as sharing an internet connection that will be possible when the phone is rooted and you can convert it to an WiFi hotspot.
Perhaps there are people using outlook that can help you in that department as that's definitely possible.
Trekster said:
Where did it say it was a business phone?? If anything it's marketed as a multimedia phone!
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Does this URL help?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/business/offering/organisation?cc=se&lc=sv
Trekster said:
As far as sharing an internet connection that will be possible when the phone is rooted and you can convert it to an WiFi hotspot.
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Well, thats what i am talking about. Functions and apps that does not exist as it is now. The phone needs to be rooted and i have to void my warrenty for a need function.
Evostance said:
Ok, its a phone running Android.
For a start you can tether your internet connection via USB and you can sync with Outlook
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I havent found one working guide.
Evostance said:
Ok, its a phone running Android.
For a start you can tether your internet connection via USB and you can sync with Outlook
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How can I tether the internet connection via USB?
un1 said:
How can I tether the internet connection via USB?
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Use the built in PDA NET-app and download the desktop client and you're ready to go!
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Badankan78 said:
Does this URL help?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/business/offering/organisation?cc=se&lc=sv
Well, thats what i am talking about. Functions and apps that does not exist as it is now. The phone needs to be rooted and i have to void my warrenty for a need function.
I havent found one working guide.
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I hadn't seen that page before, it certainly isn't marketed as that in Denmark. Also these are the promises they make on the page:
"Jobbmejl. Personliga mejl. Telefonbok. Musik. Kalender. Business Organisation ger dig allt du behöver i fickan så att du kan
visa bilagor i telefonen
konfigurera push-e-post som Microsoft® Exchange ActiveSync™
lägga in ett lö"
Nowhere does it state "internet sharing" - and only recently Android got native(w. 2.1) ActiveSync compatibility...and Android is still a very long way away from being a true Business oriented OS - not quite up to W6.5 levels yet and WP7 seems to depart the business oriented as well.
Flamso said:
Use the built in PDA NET-app and download the desktop client and you're ready to go!
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Did SE actually include PDANet with the X10? Good job if they did.
If not, you can grab it from here: http://www.junefabrics.com/
saltorio said:
Did SE actually include PDANet with the X10? Good job if they did.
If not, you can grab it from here: http://www.junefabrics.com/
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At least it did with my Swedish phone!
While I understand google wants to lock users into their services not syncing with outlook, both desktop and exchange, both over the air and direct sync, without using "their" cloud, weakens the OS. Love it or hate it Outlook is pretty much a standard and near ubiquitous. They ability to sync with it should be too IMO.
Badankan78 said:
I have been waiting for this phone for months now and about 6 days ago i got it.
I wanted to get my contact from my outlook..NOPP
I wanted to connect my laptop to the phone and get a internet connection... NOPP
This is basic business needs. Now i have to remove my sim card and put it in my old SE X1. Whats the point in that?
If anyone at Sony Ericsson reads this... FIXA DETTA NU FÖR HELVETE!!! (Fix this now #%¤#%¤/)
I need a APP so i can share my internet to my PC with USB or with WIFI and i need a APP so i can sync my outlook. Simple as that!!!
As it is now and after looking in Android store the Sony Ericsson X10i is a game phone for kids with rich parents!!!
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Another clueless idiot starts screaming instead of reading...
...why don't you shut up and ask first?
Sync your miserable outlook to Google then your phone will sync it. If you want to sync to some crappy Exchange Server then use the Moxi client on your phone.
For tethering install either PdaNet or EasyTether Lite or some other app from the market.
God, I hate loudmouthed [email protected]
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szlevi said:
Another clueless idiot starts screaming instead of reading...
...why don't you shut up and ask first?
Sync your miserable outlook to Google then your phone will sync it. If you want to sync to some crappy Exchange Server then use the Moxi client on your phone.
For tethering install either PdaNet or EasyTether Lite or some other app from the market.
God, I hate loudmouthed [email protected]
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Are you kissing your mother with that mouth? Well, question is, whos the real loudmouth here??? This is a forum, it is for helping others. If its to hard for you then dont visit this forum or stop reading if you dont like what you read.
Well, Easytether did acctually work and was easy to use. Thx for that.
But the suggestion about sync my outlook with a google account is not what i wanted. Call exchange crappy as much as you want its still used by many companys world wide. I am just asking for solutions for my needs and what i am used to and allowed to. I dont care what you use or how you do it. My thread was about my needs, not yours. I want to sync my outlook with my phone by bluetooth or USB cable. If you ever worked on a big company you would know that the IT/IS deparment only allows you to use validated applications on a company computer.
I hope you realize what i just said about this beeing a forum and this forum is for helping other people not calling other people idiots and [email protected]
Calm down people,its Friday!
Yeah, this is one of the issues that everyone was beating up the iphone for (weak in the business market without remote wipe, snycing issues, etc.) since its introduction and in my mind the same applies here. Android should be able to sync with outlook directly, both exchange and desktop, its a fundemental need for many as far as business use goes. That the program is or isnt good doesnt matter because its not about what we want anyways. If it was about what I wanted a naked supermodel would drop by every so often and sync my phone for me.
You can export your contacts from Outlook into a CSV file. You can then import this CSV file into your GMail account (create one if you don't have one). Then add this GMail account to the X10 and it will copy over your contacts as well.
I don't think think there is a solution for any Android device to sync with Microsoft Outlook...sorry buddy. To be honest, if Outlook syncing was a priority:
a) should've done the investigative work before purchasing
b) just get an awesome windows mobile device as it will have a more complete ActiveSync feature set, get an HTC HD2
emuneee said:
You can export your contacts from Outlook into a CSV file. You can then import this CSV file into your GMail account (create one if you don't have one). Then add this GMail account to the X10 and it will copy over your contacts as well.
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this is exactly what i did. took less than five minutes to get everything sorted. copying to/from sim is annoying and it screws up if ur contacts have several phone numbers
Some of us did our homework and in fact are still doing it right now, I dont have a android handset yet. Lets consider my options. I hate where MS is going with winmo7, if I wanted an iphone I could have bought one a long time ago. Cant stand the restrictions. Not really against 6.X though. Had a bunch of em already though and long for a change. About the only one I would consider is the HD2 except the form factor is a wee bit large for me. Not a deal breaker there but the lack of 3G is pretty much a killer. So winmo is out, iphone is out. I would probably pick up an N900 but there again you have a lack of 3G which in a modern smartphone can be painful. Thats out. I like palm but neither form factor works for me, same issue with crackberry. This pretty much leaves android which only has one major gripe for me, the lack of proper outlooks support which I have already stated is IMO a basic need for many business users and something which should be out of the box on any smartphone. Now I am not saying you or anyone should agree with these things but this is my view. I find it amusing that pretty much everyone hacked on the iphone over its lack of proper business support and the notoriously obstinate Jobs has been kicked and dragged into increasing the those capabilities with each release to where with the upcoming release that support will be fairly rounded. Seems to me somebody an awful lot of people must want it to get that prick to relent. For my purposes I dont need to sync anything but contacts so I can work around this weakness in the platform and will probably pick up the N1 when my feet hit the beach in a few days. That doesnt mean I am going to pretend everything is all rosy and if they dont fix this and I find it too annoying to to work around I will move on. My mission in life isnt to fill googles pockets. So there it is, perhaps we can converse without the presumption of stupidity. BTW, some of us wont be using gmail at all, shocking, isnt it?
krabman said:
Yeah, this is one of the issues that everyone was beating up the iphone for (weak in the business market without remote wipe, snycing issues, etc.) since its introduction and in my mind the same applies here. Android should be able to sync with outlook directly, both exchange and desktop, its a fundemental need for many as far as business use goes. That the program is or isnt good doesnt matter because its not about what we want anyways. If it was about what I wanted a naked supermodel would drop by every so often and sync my phone for me.
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That pretty much my issue here. The supermodel comes over but she cant sync my phone directly with my outlook over USB anymore.
Another clueless idiot starts screaming instead of reading...
...why don't you shut up and ask first?
Sync your miserable outlook to Google then
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Are you kissing your mother with that mouth? Well, question is, whos the real loudmouth here??? This is a forum, it is for helping others. If its to hard for you then dont visit this forum or stop reading if you dont like what you read.
Well, Easytether did acctually work and was easy to use. Thx for that.
But the suggestion about sync my outlook with a google account is not what i wanted. Call exchange crappy as much as you want its still used by many companys world wide. I am just asking for solutions for my needs and what i am used to and allowed to. I dont care what you use or how you do it. My thread was about my needs, not yours. I want to sync my outlook with my phone by bluetooth or USB cable. If you ever worked on a big company you would know that the IT/IS deparment only allows you to use validated applications on a company computer.
I hope you realize what i just said about this beeing a forum and this forum is for helping other people not calling other people idiots and [email protected]
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Oh boy... I DO work for a company. as the head of the IT - hence my comment.
FYI I *know* it works as I said and it's nothing new, for ***** sake... and of course, you know next to nothing bout policies and solutions, it seems
Streak is a beautiful tablet device, however due to its android platform, it has got limitations of usage by a business user, unlike a windows phone OS based device, (for example we can not sync it with outlook!!!)
It would be a welcome if there could be some great chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM for Dell Streak (be it 6.5.x or windows phone 7 OS ROM!!!). This will be a dream come true...
Why don't you buy a WM device then?
What you're asking for is next to impossible. Mainly because nobody cares.
GeorgijSapkin said:
Why don't you buy a WM device then?
What you're asking for is next to impossible. Mainly because nobody cares.
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Thanks Bro, you are certainly right, buying a winmo will be more appropriate.
Ironically this streak is my first android device, which I bought ONLY because of its good screen size and as there is no other device with this screen size, was wondering if I could simply flash a windows ROM on Streak!!!
I am sure I am going to return this and buy HD7 now...
I'm sure one of the issues with adding a WP7 ROM is going to be the licensing. If I remember correctly, each WM device had a license for the OS to run on that device. That does not exist for the Streak so you may not see a WM/WP ROM on this ever. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Whaaaa?
If there is an issue you are having with your Streak that is what you should have said. "I am having problems syncing to Outlook." will be better received than "This Streak is great, except for basically everything that makes it a Streak."
Getting irritated when some one points out there is very little intrest in having Windows Mobile ported to the Streak, besides the fact that it is not open source which makes things MUCH harder, does not help matters at all.
Is the Outlook thing the only problem you are having? If so and there is a fix, or work around then you should be good to go.
If nothing short of a WinMo phone will satisfy you, then well... you should have done more research before you bought a Streak.
Can't really see why you'd have bought a streak then. Android is definitely going to be the way to go though.
We only have to look at Microsoft's track record with mobile operating systems. There's probably something out there that will do the Outlook stuff you need. An app, a configuration of an email account somehow...Whatever.
Configuring "for Outlook" is a very high level complaint. What exactly do you mean? Do you want to set up a POP mail server? What is it that the Android isn't doing that you need it to do? I'm pretty sure you can set up POP and SMTP on it.
(Although gmail is way better)
Hey guys....and/or gals.....I didn't think that this was such a dumb question. This is a developer site..... It appears that Win devices still lack in the screen department and that some items have issues with the Android platform.
However that being said, there are several good apps on the market that will get you the ability to sync contacts,etc and push email to you too.
Search the market and you shall find.......
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Android is light years ahead.. I believe it will make people smarter. Windoze is not the way to go for mobile.
I got a windows 7 tablet and the touch on it is Mod Edit useless... I got 5 crap apps to play with....
I have zero faith in ms in the mobile arena.
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For outlook:
- mail: I use pop for outlook accout, no problem
- address boolk: sync with gmail is better
- calender : I use google calendar sync with outlook and then with dell totally automatic with wireless
- task: google task...
- office ... Read and edit something in dellstreak is ok for me
In fact I was a "adept" of winmo - from wm5 with O2 xda, Atom Exec, Atom, HD1, and last time I was in chose between HD7 and Dell Streak ... Finally Dell is not a wrong chose for me, normal and buseness use.
But this idea is still good for me, and for all loving decovery new one in hi-tech world...
Thank you for sharing.
Davidsy said:
For outlook:
- mail: I use pop for outlook accout, no problem
- address boolk: sync with gmail is better
- calender : I use google calendar sync with outlook and then with dell totally automatic with wireless
- task: google task...
- office ... Read and edit something in dellstreak is ok for me
In fact I was a "adept" of winmo - from wm5 with O2 xda, Atom Exec, Atom, HD1, and last time I was in chose between HD7 and Dell Streak ... Finally Dell is not a wrong chose for me, normal and buseness use.
But this idea is still good for me, and for all loving decovery new one in hi-tech world...
Thank you for sharing.
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Thanks Davidsy, I get your point, however my concern is to be able to synchronize my mails (corporate with id like [email protected]), that is ALREADY lying in my MS outlook.
Of course setting up POP/SMTP (for this corporate email id) is very simple and I can very easily do it. My concern is HOW DO I GET ALL THOSE OLD MAILS LYING ALREADY IN MY MSOUTLOOK as I need to refer them -OFFLINE- time and again!!
I do understand that google is insisting us to use their cloud platform and keep our contacts/calendar/tasks etc. with them and sync from their server, for obvious reasons... which ha sits own pros and cons!!
But I am really glad that you have been a staunch winmo user (BUSINESS USER) and are actually now more happy with streak. This should give me confidence too...
I believe if you use the generic email app, if you click 'load more messages' it will actually get older messages. I was downloading messages from late 2009 that were still sitting on my email server. Not sure if this will work for Outlook mail, this was from my Comcast account that I set up.
Ravindra9 said:
Streak is a beautiful tablet device, however due to its android platform, it has got limitations of usage by a business user, unlike a windows phone OS based device, (for example we can not sync it with outlook!!!)
It would be a welcome if there could be some great chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM for Dell Streak (be it 6.5.x or windows phone 7 OS ROM!!!). This will be a dream come true...
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Not a fan of WM7, but love to see it port to streak. On another note, android do have business application support.
Ravindra9 said:
Streak is a beautiful tablet device, however due to its android platform, it has got limitations of usage by a business user, unlike a windows phone OS based device, (for example we can not sync it with outlook!!!)
It would be a welcome if there could be some great chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM for Dell Streak (be it 6.5.x or windows phone 7 OS ROM!!!). This will be a dream come true...
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Besides black berry, the next most mature Mobile OS for business now is the iphone believe it or not...
I have both an iphone and Streak and the iphone for outlook intergration runs circles around the android stuff..
Sorry, but in my eyes iTunes-requiring hardware is not really mature. But ALL systems have a lot room for improvement
Sync (mail, calendar, contacts) with our company-Exchange worked fine for me on the Streak (2.2). But now i got a company BB Bold 9700 (tweaked with BB OS 6). You can´t imagine how much i love my 5" screen and swype instead of the microscreen and mini-keys for my sausage-fingers. There are also features on BB which i´d like to have on Streak (like the cool rigtones of BB OS6), but in the end for me the Streak is the best mixture of features for my needs.
btw: Fanboys (of any brand/make) don´t forget that there´s nothing really perfect out there
Going from a winmo to android, because of the outlook sync issue, allowed me to break my addiction to office. I went with Thunderbird & Open Office...free at last!
stang393 said:
Besides black berry, the next most mature Mobile OS for business now is the iphone believe it or not...
I have both an iphone and Streak and the iphone for outlook intergration runs circles around the android stuff..
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Have you tried using Touchdown?
Since installing that, I have forgotten about my iPhone.
Actually in the three weeks I have had a Streak, my iPhone has not been powered on.
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Mobs69 said:
Have you tried using Touchdown?
Since installing that, I have forgotten about my iPhone.
Actually in the three weeks I have had a Streak, my iPhone has not been powered on.
Later
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No But I will now, thanks for the tip!
Mobs69 said:
Have you tried using Touchdown?
Since installing that, I have forgotten about my iPhone.
Actually in the three weeks I have had a Streak, my iPhone has not been powered on.
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Thanks Mobs69 for the suggestion. I installed Touchdown but found that this works ONLY IF you are on EXCHANGE SERVER. My company does not have an exchange server and we use our corporate email IDs ([email protected]) directly on our OUTLOOK, through pop downloads.
In such a scenario, is there any scope of syncing, through Touchdown?
tavella said:
I'm sure one of the issues with adding a WP7 ROM is going to be the licensing. If I remember correctly, each WM device had a license for the OS to run on that device. That does not exist for the Streak so you may not see a WM/WP ROM on this ever. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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In legal terms yes a license is required for each winmo or wince device sold but licensing is not done like in windows desktop. For winmo7 it is a little tricky (even more so than older winmo platforms) since you need to partner with msft and get their blessing before you as a manufacturer produce a winmo7 device that has access to all bells and whistles like Xbox live and marketplace...
On the porting site the most important bit is the BSP which needs to be supplied by qualcomm or one of its partner and actually do exists for the cpu used in streak even if it probably not include all additional drivers such as touch but even those can be obtained one way or another.
However, I do not see any reason to even further think on this subject unless winmo7 proves to be a considerable and capable platform, allowing user tinkering at some level which will require time to be proven or be forgotten...
On the outlook sync issue; actually android 2.1 and above natively sync with outlook (or with exchange to be more precise) eliminating the need to connect your phone or look a like device to your PC which is like using FAX to send a CD copy over POTS line...
Yes, I use exchange sync for corp mails on my streak; mail, calendar and contacts; not notes or tasks...
Happy new year everyone!
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