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BlackBerry vs Xperia

Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia

^^windows live messenger is already preinstalled. u can get the facebook panel and windows live panel in norti's sticky thread.

Amnesia180 said:
Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
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i'm WM beginner from symbian, just owning x1 for third only what I can say is WM need your patience to getting started, lot's of tweaks and softwares to try and to learn. the uses requirement that you asked above can easily done on xperia. anyway, I feel good with my xperia now and it's games much better than symbian one,hehe... plus I reply this message using x1 now^^ so, join us, xda has cookies ))
p.s. what I watched on youtube was the blackberry storm bootup in few seconds! looks miracle....

unfortunately Windows Mobile is much slower than BlackBerry's interface.........
but at least it's the most versatile mobile platform in the world hehe.

ive never owned a blackberry, and the x1a is my first winmo phone too. i like the x1a, only downside is the screen is a little to small for me. i mean the screen resolution is awesome but i sure wish the screen could have been bigger. i mean 3.2" at least. it may not seem like a big difference in numbers between 3 and 3.2 but it is.
if your happy with blackberry's email, i would stick with it and maybe get the storm.

if u dont want touchscreen..then BB Bold is one of the best smartphones out there...very fast interface.
my dad has it.

BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab

slawrumia said:
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Thanks for that link.
So, this will convert my Winmo to BlackBerry Operating System?
I've read through the topic and I didn't see a mention of it working with o2 UK.. Are these things usually easy to install? Would I need to pay o2 for a BlackBerry tariff... or will unlimited internet tariff still be sufficient?
The problem is, I liked my 8120... but I don't want to ugrade to another 8120, that would be silly! I also like the Storm (but not available on o2). However, the Bold is slightly too big for what I'm looking for... (and has a smaller screen than X1).
However, if you're all saying you like X1's, i think I might give it a shot.

slawrumia said:
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.

artesea said:
Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
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No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?

Just my two pennies worth having had Blackberrys, quite a few Symbians, the iPhone and now my fourth WinMo...
going to WinMo is about getting the flexibility to have almost anything you want, BUT also having the frustrations about bugs, some incompatibilities, flashing new firmwares all the time, etc.
So, if you're patient, willing to use the search button and share you experiences with others, in my view Windows Mobile is the best thing out there today.
Otherwise, get a blackberry or iphone. They rarely crash or go wrong, but are a bit limited.

Amnesia180 said:
No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
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You can do that, and if you have an Exchange server its possible to have true push with ActiveSync.

BadTasteUK; thanks for your input. I have had an o2 XDA before... and that was Winmo. I thought it worked pretty well.
To be honest, I'm not a huge techie, and probably won't be tweaking anything major on the phone. However, I do like the flexibility and option of being able to do so... Hopefully the phone won't have a memory leak my BB 8120 did... my text messages would often delete at least once day due to running out of memory on the phone.

i got a bb bold and a xperia, both are excellent devices i find the bb more stable and faster, the xperia is more configurable and there is loads of software for it ie youtube.
at the moment the bb suits my needs so im using that. it all comes down to what you wanna do with the device.

I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.

Looks like you've made up your mind Amnesia...
... the pun wasn't intended, honest!

Amnesia180 said:
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
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bb internet browser is poor xperia beats it hands down... sounds like xperia is the answer mate

Sick and tired

Iem sick and tired of my SGS, its great pice of hw and great phone but sw boundle is pice of ****. PC app kies is most horried thing i ever seen, i tried lot of 3rd party apps but nothing works like i want to.
So plz advise me, is there any posibility to sync SGS with outlook via bt and automaticly?
I dont want much, i just want to sync contacs, notes and calendar. I DONT want to use g-services they are just joke.
i want to sync my sgs with my outlook localy, via bt and usb everytime i connect phone to pc, just like G autosync.

You can try Missing Sync but cost a lot of money...
markspace.com/downloads.html

Why not sync with Google contacts and such though? What is bad with it?

andreas_k said:
You can try Missing Sync but cost a lot of money...
markspace.com/downloads.html
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Ok, i just bought it and downloading
i post some summary if it will do the job

andrewluecke said:
Why not sync with Google contacts and such though? What is bad with it?
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some people are PARANOID about their privacy
same PARANOID people that will not allow BlackBerry to run in USA & Soudi Arabia, because their Security Service CAN NOT HACK the encryption used by Black Berry (although USA kinda of drop this issue, as they setup their own BBserver for the security services to tap into it)
Yay! for Black Berry
it's just a shame their phones are not up to my standards, i like the BB email service though.

Ditto on the BlackBerry thing. Cloud is the way forward. Fighting change is a losing battle. Privacy is important but so is keeping up with the times. I hope your issue gets resolved.

andrewluecke said:
Why not sync with Google contacts and such though? What is bad with it?
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Co i want to do i localy, not OTA, i relly dont like google services... and i dont want to share my contacts and personal info with it

BINGO!
I Knew it!
LOL
personally i've been swaying away anyone using Outlook to use something else
Outlook is the worse program ever by Microsoft
Go use Lotus Notes instead if you want a real software that works and that is productive
For personal use i prefer Thunderbird, it's simply perfect

It's not all about security.
There are some simplicity issues here as well.
Syncing to Google servers, then syncing back to Outlook is way more complicated then just syncing to Outlook in the first place. What if he got no WIFI around, what if he got no APN or data plan is pricy as hell?
Simple syncing to Outlook is too much to ask for?

Aluz1 said:
Iem sick and tired of my SGS, its great pice of hw and great phone but sw boundle is pice of ****. PC app kies is most horried thing i ever seen, i tried lot of 3rd party apps but nothing works like i want to.
So plz advise me, is there any posibility to sync SGS with outlook via bt and automaticly?
I dont want much, i just want to sync contacs, notes and calendar. I DONT want to use g-services they are just joke.
i want to sync my sgs with my outlook localy, via bt and usb everytime i connect phone to pc, just like G autosync.
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dude, sync over internet, hock up with your Exchange Server directly. Nothing to do with G-service.

Roy Ngan said:
dude, sync over internet, hock up with your Exchange Server directly. Nothing to do with G-service.
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Agreed. But add your account in the Android Email app, avoid the Samsung "social hub", it is crap. I don't know why these manufacturers try to re-invent stuff already built into Android.

i dont have any exchange server at least for my own private/business usage, u just use outlook cos i em used to it, i need quick and responsible "office" boundle
and that what outlook is, you can spit at it but its true,...
i tried missing sync and it wont do the job for me

brunes said:
Agreed. But add your account in the Android Email app, avoid the Samsung "social hub", it is crap. I don't know why these manufacturers try to re-invent stuff already built into Android.
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i connect my mail account to my mail server BUT idont have exchange...
so how do i sync contacts and calendars?...

Roy Ngan said:
dude, sync over internet, hock up with your Exchange Server directly. Nothing to do with G-service.
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Exactly what I was going to suggest..
Although, one question you must also ask yourself, is how much do you trust your email provider. Remember, Google basically told China to go f* themselves. Many email server owners wont be willing to do the same.
You should also ensure you are using SSL connections to your email servers (most people don't). Because if you don't use SSL on your computer to communicate with your email server, the entire process is pointless, because they are more likely to read the traffic at your ISP.
You must also ensure that you are enforcing SSL in your browser properly (disallow HTTP connections from HTTPS), use plugins to always try to connect to SSL sites first, and checking that passwords entered are entered in HTTPS. Otherwise, you are wasting your time completely..

AllGamer said:
some people are PARANOID about their privacy
same PARANOID people that will not allow BlackBerry to run in USA & Soudi Arabia, because their Security Service CAN NOT HACK the encryption used by Black Berry (although USA kinda of drop this issue, as they setup their own BBserver for the security services to tap into it)
Yay! for Black Berry
it's just a shame their phones are not up to my standards, i like the BB email service though.
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Lets supouse i will change outlook for thuderbird, is there any way to sync localy?....

andrewluecke said:
Exactly what I was going to suggest..
Although, one question you must also ask yourself, is how much do you trust your email provider. Remember, Google basically told China to go f* themselves. Many email server owners wont be willing to do the same.
You should also ensure you are using SSL connections to your email servers (most people don't). Because if you don't use SSL on your computer to communicate with your email server, the entire process is pointless, because they are more likely to read the traffic at your ISP.
You must also ensure that you are enforcing SSL in your browser properly (disallow HTTP connections from HTTPS), use plugins to always try to connect to SSL sites first, and checking that passwords entered are entered in HTTPS. Otherwise, you are wasting your time completely..
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Or just just IPsec tunel to 3rd world hosting....

For all of thouse who are searching in the dark
here it is
<http://www.markspace.com/>
this is what you want if you want to sync android phone localy
it can sync via bt or wifi!
i cant get the wifi working but bt syncs perfectly, beside contacts, calendar, notes it syncs data, music, sms, etc...
it can sync automaticly, manualy, etc etc etc
great pice of sw, just downolad client for the phone, then notes app, calendar app, and pc/mac sw
14day trial
full version cost about 40usd, what isint cheap for me(in czech republic) but it worth it,
i me strongly recommend to everyone who dont want to sync via google
now i just need root my SGS and uninstall unusefoul google and samsung apps...

new desire HD/android user

i'm about to get my new desire HD from orange tomorrow and i thought i better ask for a little advice.
as i'm upgrading from a touch HD the android experience is totally new to me, so i was hoping for a few hints and tips as to how to get the best from my new phone and what apps are going to be most interesting.
cheers

I've recently done the same (moved from a Touch Pro2). Main differences over WM you will find....
* Improved stability
* Improved responsiveness and speed
* Android app market makes obtaining apps and wider range of apps much better
* Overall a much more pleasant experience to use
* Battery life will be worse, but you can tune the device to improve this a lot
* Integration with Microsoft products is not so great although does support multiple Exchange profiles

An HD2 immigrant here
First of all you need to get used to the different logic of the system. You probably had HTC Sense on ur touchHD and when you see that the Sence in DHD is similar it's a bit leading.
The hardest for me was getting used to the fact that the "All apps" button is not "Start" and just brings u to everything that's installed ( no rearangements, no folders, no renaming )
Then comes the battery life. DaveTME was right that it sucks, but thats (IMO) only do to the fact that by default, every service u have installed is syncing all the time. If u tweak ur sync settings a bit u should get close to what u had in THD.
For further references you may want to check this out -> http://androinica.com/category/androidguide/
good luck and welcome

ta for the reading matter guys
at the mo i just sync my phone with outlook on my PC to get its contacts, notes etc.
does android do this out of the box?? i'm assuming i need a PC client, but do i need an app??

sning said:
ta for the reading matter guys
at the mo i just sync my phone with outlook on my PC to get its contacts, notes etc.
does android do this out of the box?? i'm assuming i need a PC client, but do i need an app??
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This is exactly what I checked into before I made the jump from Nokia, where the Ovi Suite (PC Suite) would sync with Outlook. The HTC Sync SW supposedly does this but I had problems when I got the phone and, if you search about a bit, you'll find others have too.
What I did was to install HTC Sync anyway but also to install MyPhoneExplorer (... http://www.fjsoft.at/en/ ...). This installs on the PC and, as you surmised, on the phone. Works fine for me. I'm using XP Pro + Outlook 2000 (yeah, I know, behind the times but hey .... it all works!). MPE also has a forum where the developer is pretty responsive to issues.
I also sunc the calendars but use Gemini Calendar on the HD (search and ye shall find ... ). Much better than stock.
HTH.
Oh, and remember that Android is Google, which means they intend you to sync through the *cloud* and not to your PC. Especially with Microsoft's products, which is why you need to go 3rd party. When you get your DHD, before you do anything else, go into the menus and put everything on manual sync until you know what's happening. Or you'll end up with Facebook, Google and Uncle Tom Cobbly's contacts all on your phone ...
Download the manual from here .... http://www.htc.com/www/userguide.aspx?p_id=324 ...
Dave

sning said:
i'm about to get my new desire HD from orange tomorrow and i thought i better ask for a little advice.
as i'm upgrading from a touch HD the android experience is totally new to me, so i was hoping for a few hints and tips as to how to get the best from my new phone and what apps are going to be most interesting.
cheers
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Same, i got my dhd yesterday. I'd say you'll love. explore for yourself you'll enjoy it very much but to start off i suggest angry birds, google googles, and set up facebook etc etc.

is there anyways to see your folders in sd card on android like file explorer on wm?

Gurps777 said:
is there anyways to see your folders in sd card on android like file explorer on wm?
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OiFilemanager or AndExplorer should both do the job

another quick question, and i know this will sound totally dumb, but i have to ask.
do i NEED an google account to use this thing properly??
i dont use facebook or twitter or any other social media, so i'm happy to sync with outlook as its got all my contacts in up to date, and to be honest i'd rather not give google any more of my personal details thani have to!

Yes you need a google account. Aslo you can import your contacts into your google account and sync it to your phone.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

You do need a google account, but to be honest that is a good thing, the integration with Googles services is so tight. It provides the best email experience by a LONG way in my opinion, and the cloud features are fantastic.
Since switching to android i have also switched to a more "cloud" centric workspace, all my work is backed up to a cloud (2 actually!) and i keep copies of everything i need online aswell as on my PC so i can access it anywhere.
Its a shame you dont want to "submit" to google if you know what i mean, gmail is so, so slick.
*Spooky voice* It is the futuuuure!
I hope you enjoy your switch to android, i know i did!
J

unfortunatly i have an inherant distrust of "the cloud"
while i can see its benefits, i dont trust other people with my data, there's already been too many breaches, leaks, and lost data in the cloud for my liking

sning said:
unfortunatly i have an inherant distrust of "the cloud"
while i can see its benefits, i dont trust other people with my data, there's already been too many breaches, leaks, and lost data in the cloud for my liking
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I'm with you on this one! You do have to set-up a Google email account BUT mine is just forwarded to my *real* email address so never use it for anything. I *assume* you may need it to buy apps. from the market but I've only downloaded free ones so far. Oh, it's *compulsory* to download Angry Birds, BTW, free on Android ...
Dave

How can sync my Outlook infos with Google Calendar and Contacts?

Get a gmail account, best out there. Just don't save your contacts to gmail. I got hacked from China and everyone on my email list got a virus infested email. Lucky I found out very quickly and told everyone before any damage was done.
As to sync. I just use HTC Sync downloaded from HTC web site. Works a treat
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Oh by the way has Orange messed up the OS like they did with the touch hd? (made mine useless)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

[Q] Flashing Windows phone 7 (or winodws mobile 6.5.x) on STREAK

Streak is a beautiful tablet device, however due to its android platform, it has got limitations of usage by a business user, unlike a windows phone OS based device, (for example we can not sync it with outlook!!!)
It would be a welcome if there could be some great chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM for Dell Streak (be it 6.5.x or windows phone 7 OS ROM!!!). This will be a dream come true...

Why don't you buy a WM device then?
What you're asking for is next to impossible. Mainly because nobody cares.

GeorgijSapkin said:
Why don't you buy a WM device then?
What you're asking for is next to impossible. Mainly because nobody cares.
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Thanks Bro, you are certainly right, buying a winmo will be more appropriate.
Ironically this streak is my first android device, which I bought ONLY because of its good screen size and as there is no other device with this screen size, was wondering if I could simply flash a windows ROM on Streak!!!
I am sure I am going to return this and buy HD7 now...

I'm sure one of the issues with adding a WP7 ROM is going to be the licensing. If I remember correctly, each WM device had a license for the OS to run on that device. That does not exist for the Streak so you may not see a WM/WP ROM on this ever. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Whaaaa?
If there is an issue you are having with your Streak that is what you should have said. "I am having problems syncing to Outlook." will be better received than "This Streak is great, except for basically everything that makes it a Streak."
Getting irritated when some one points out there is very little intrest in having Windows Mobile ported to the Streak, besides the fact that it is not open source which makes things MUCH harder, does not help matters at all.
Is the Outlook thing the only problem you are having? If so and there is a fix, or work around then you should be good to go.
If nothing short of a WinMo phone will satisfy you, then well... you should have done more research before you bought a Streak.

Can't really see why you'd have bought a streak then. Android is definitely going to be the way to go though.
We only have to look at Microsoft's track record with mobile operating systems. There's probably something out there that will do the Outlook stuff you need. An app, a configuration of an email account somehow...Whatever.
Configuring "for Outlook" is a very high level complaint. What exactly do you mean? Do you want to set up a POP mail server? What is it that the Android isn't doing that you need it to do? I'm pretty sure you can set up POP and SMTP on it.
(Although gmail is way better)

Hey guys....and/or gals.....I didn't think that this was such a dumb question. This is a developer site..... It appears that Win devices still lack in the screen department and that some items have issues with the Android platform.
However that being said, there are several good apps on the market that will get you the ability to sync contacts,etc and push email to you too.
Search the market and you shall find.......
Later...............

Android is light years ahead.. I believe it will make people smarter. Windoze is not the way to go for mobile.
I got a windows 7 tablet and the touch on it is Mod Edit useless... I got 5 crap apps to play with....
I have zero faith in ms in the mobile arena.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk
Please do not use swear words

For outlook:
- mail: I use pop for outlook accout, no problem
- address boolk: sync with gmail is better
- calender : I use google calendar sync with outlook and then with dell totally automatic with wireless
- task: google task...
- office ... Read and edit something in dellstreak is ok for me
In fact I was a "adept" of winmo - from wm5 with O2 xda, Atom Exec, Atom, HD1, and last time I was in chose between HD7 and Dell Streak ... Finally Dell is not a wrong chose for me, normal and buseness use.
But this idea is still good for me, and for all loving decovery new one in hi-tech world...
Thank you for sharing.

Davidsy said:
For outlook:
- mail: I use pop for outlook accout, no problem
- address boolk: sync with gmail is better
- calender : I use google calendar sync with outlook and then with dell totally automatic with wireless
- task: google task...
- office ... Read and edit something in dellstreak is ok for me
In fact I was a "adept" of winmo - from wm5 with O2 xda, Atom Exec, Atom, HD1, and last time I was in chose between HD7 and Dell Streak ... Finally Dell is not a wrong chose for me, normal and buseness use.
But this idea is still good for me, and for all loving decovery new one in hi-tech world...
Thank you for sharing.
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Thanks Davidsy, I get your point, however my concern is to be able to synchronize my mails (corporate with id like [email protected]), that is ALREADY lying in my MS outlook.
Of course setting up POP/SMTP (for this corporate email id) is very simple and I can very easily do it. My concern is HOW DO I GET ALL THOSE OLD MAILS LYING ALREADY IN MY MSOUTLOOK as I need to refer them -OFFLINE- time and again!!
I do understand that google is insisting us to use their cloud platform and keep our contacts/calendar/tasks etc. with them and sync from their server, for obvious reasons... which ha sits own pros and cons!!
But I am really glad that you have been a staunch winmo user (BUSINESS USER) and are actually now more happy with streak. This should give me confidence too...

I believe if you use the generic email app, if you click 'load more messages' it will actually get older messages. I was downloading messages from late 2009 that were still sitting on my email server. Not sure if this will work for Outlook mail, this was from my Comcast account that I set up.

Ravindra9 said:
Streak is a beautiful tablet device, however due to its android platform, it has got limitations of usage by a business user, unlike a windows phone OS based device, (for example we can not sync it with outlook!!!)
It would be a welcome if there could be some great chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM for Dell Streak (be it 6.5.x or windows phone 7 OS ROM!!!). This will be a dream come true...
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Not a fan of WM7, but love to see it port to streak. On another note, android do have business application support.

Ravindra9 said:
Streak is a beautiful tablet device, however due to its android platform, it has got limitations of usage by a business user, unlike a windows phone OS based device, (for example we can not sync it with outlook!!!)
It would be a welcome if there could be some great chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM for Dell Streak (be it 6.5.x or windows phone 7 OS ROM!!!). This will be a dream come true...
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Not Android Development
Please Post in the Correct Forum
Moving to General

Besides black berry, the next most mature Mobile OS for business now is the iphone believe it or not...
I have both an iphone and Streak and the iphone for outlook intergration runs circles around the android stuff..

Sorry, but in my eyes iTunes-requiring hardware is not really mature. But ALL systems have a lot room for improvement
Sync (mail, calendar, contacts) with our company-Exchange worked fine for me on the Streak (2.2). But now i got a company BB Bold 9700 (tweaked with BB OS 6). You can´t imagine how much i love my 5" screen and swype instead of the microscreen and mini-keys for my sausage-fingers. There are also features on BB which i´d like to have on Streak (like the cool rigtones of BB OS6), but in the end for me the Streak is the best mixture of features for my needs.
btw: Fanboys (of any brand/make) don´t forget that there´s nothing really perfect out there

Going from a winmo to android, because of the outlook sync issue, allowed me to break my addiction to office. I went with Thunderbird & Open Office...free at last!

stang393 said:
Besides black berry, the next most mature Mobile OS for business now is the iphone believe it or not...
I have both an iphone and Streak and the iphone for outlook intergration runs circles around the android stuff..
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Have you tried using Touchdown?
Since installing that, I have forgotten about my iPhone.
Actually in the three weeks I have had a Streak, my iPhone has not been powered on.
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Mobs69 said:
Have you tried using Touchdown?
Since installing that, I have forgotten about my iPhone.
Actually in the three weeks I have had a Streak, my iPhone has not been powered on.
Later
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No But I will now, thanks for the tip!

Mobs69 said:
Have you tried using Touchdown?
Since installing that, I have forgotten about my iPhone.
Actually in the three weeks I have had a Streak, my iPhone has not been powered on.
Later
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Thanks Mobs69 for the suggestion. I installed Touchdown but found that this works ONLY IF you are on EXCHANGE SERVER. My company does not have an exchange server and we use our corporate email IDs ([email protected]) directly on our OUTLOOK, through pop downloads.
In such a scenario, is there any scope of syncing, through Touchdown?

tavella said:
I'm sure one of the issues with adding a WP7 ROM is going to be the licensing. If I remember correctly, each WM device had a license for the OS to run on that device. That does not exist for the Streak so you may not see a WM/WP ROM on this ever. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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In legal terms yes a license is required for each winmo or wince device sold but licensing is not done like in windows desktop. For winmo7 it is a little tricky (even more so than older winmo platforms) since you need to partner with msft and get their blessing before you as a manufacturer produce a winmo7 device that has access to all bells and whistles like Xbox live and marketplace...
On the porting site the most important bit is the BSP which needs to be supplied by qualcomm or one of its partner and actually do exists for the cpu used in streak even if it probably not include all additional drivers such as touch but even those can be obtained one way or another.
However, I do not see any reason to even further think on this subject unless winmo7 proves to be a considerable and capable platform, allowing user tinkering at some level which will require time to be proven or be forgotten...
On the outlook sync issue; actually android 2.1 and above natively sync with outlook (or with exchange to be more precise) eliminating the need to connect your phone or look a like device to your PC which is like using FAX to send a CD copy over POTS line...
Yes, I use exchange sync for corp mails on my streak; mail, calendar and contacts; not notes or tasks...
Happy new year everyone!
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Sync with outlook

Ok after running WinMo phones since their inception I have moved to Android
First thing I want to Do with my new S2 is sync with outlook...contacts, notes, tasks etc
What can I use to get all the data accross not just say contacts
Can I use Kies ?

Do a Google for CompanionLink

Thanks but $50 or $130 to sync to outlook seems insane
The latest & greatest and I cant just plug it in & sync
May as well send it back and keep my HD2

Use Samsung Kies. Its free to download from Samsung website.

i came from winmo and found it a real struggle to sync with outlook. you have to get used to everyone ignoring your question and telling you just to sync with google.
try kies - if that doesn't work, look for myphoneexplorer. it's also free, works flawlessly and is the closest thing i can find to activesync ...

I just found this page http://www.syncdroid.net/
Incredible... I have to [email protected]#k around with 40 pieces of software for a solution
The best phone cant even talk to one of the most widely used pieces of software
My very first windows phone at least did contacts flawlessly..I remember purchasing some software to sync notes...BUT that was 8 years ago!!
I've never had any Apple products because I dont like being told which way to do things and now Google seems no better
What a let down

You probably won't like this but there's a solution. For about $10 a month you can use an Exchange hosting service. In addition to all the syncs you're looking for you get true push e-mail and don't have to use any of the Google apps. It's elegant but not free.
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Look for Gsyncit I think its called.
Joe

Hi
just look at "MyPhoneExplorer" this is a grate soft and free.
regds
Henri

parianos said:
Hi
just look at "MyPhoneExplorer" this is a grate soft and free.
regds
Henri
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^ doesnt do notes or tasks according to the table on syncdroid.net

exchange active sync works for me. i get all my email on my android

Sorry man, thanks to all these corporations wanting to own your sould they do their best to keep you from being able to move cross platform. A real pia and yeah, people here don't seem to get that many organizations do not want any of their stuff going across third party data harvesting outfits (i.e. gmail) and they are not going to change any time soon. IMO you either deal with the crap workarounds or move on because things have been stagnant on this front from the start, there has been little movement up till now, and no sign of any real improvement in sight.

You don't need "crap workarounds" with Samsung Android phones - they Outlook sync either via USB or WiFi using Kies just fine. And this sync completely bypasses Google.
Its not a feature of Android in general, but something Samsung adds to their customized Android builds.

Nitrodesk
bocsta said:
Ok after running WinMo phones since their inception I have moved to Android
First thing I want to Do with my new S2 is sync with outlook...contacts, notes, tasks etc
What can I use to get all the data accross not just say contacts
Can I use Kies ?
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my friend, the best tool to manage outlook, is TouchDown from nitrodesk.

I use Gsyncit. I works very well.

Ingvarr said:
You don't need "crap workarounds" with Samsung Android phones - they Outlook sync either via USB or WiFi using Kies just fine. And this sync completely bypasses Google.
Its not a feature of Android in general, but something Samsung adds to their customized Android builds.
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I'm in the same boat...just moved from winmo and thought it would be easy....no it doesn't sync with kies just fine

Try Kies...it's not as intuitive as the almost invisable active sync
I have got my contacts accross although multiple address books look to have not been kept separate
I also havent check that 100% of whats in outlook has come accross as there are multiple fields
Pros coming across from WinMo:
- smooth op system
- havent pulled my battery once yet ..just as well as the cover is made of paper
Negs
- all that battery sucking stuff functions better, is easier to turn on and leave on so the juice dissapears just like before

parianos said:
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just look at "MyPhoneExplorer" this is a grate soft and free.
regds
Henri
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Thanks Henri
I was ready to throw my new phone against the wall till I found this.
Sam

Install Google calender sync on your PC, that will sync Outlook to your Gmail account.
Then set your phones calender to sync to that same Gmail account and all will be handled automatically for you.
For free, may I add.

"Local" sync with active sync doesnt require any "sharing" with microsoft in the cloud which is why people dont want to share with google in the cloud
why should you have to get a Gmail account just cos you have a Android phone?