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I have a view questions because i am really in doubt about what phone to get.
The HD or the X1
hd because of the big screen and i love the tf3d.
x1 because of the keyboard (never had a sm with keyboard) and flash
What i would like to know about the X1 is:
1. the screen resolution is the same as the HD, but in a smaller screen.
so this means that everything is smaller on your screen.
does this make if difficult to use your fingers to use the phone?
2. if i am not mistaking, the screen is not on the surface but its a little lower.
does this make it difficult to use your fingers (for X button and stuff like that)
3. is the flash on the camera any good?
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
5. is opera browser installed on it and default?
6. any you tube app like on the diamond?
7. i listen music a lot when i am on the road.
is it easy to use?
is the sound good?
is it smooth when doing other things on the phone or will you notice the phone having to perform more?
8. is there an easy way to rotate the screen when you want?
seeing there is no accelerometer
9. for the users who used the diamond
do you regret the switch or are you satisfied?
(mainly because of the panels vs tf3d and screen)
thanks for taking the time
U can use Tf3d on the Xperia and all ur problems is solved u get the best of both =)
I don't own it yet, but I can tell u my impression about it judging from others
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
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it's very standard windows mobile compare to it's rivals (samsung and htc)
no it doesn't have any software keyboard but the standard windows one, but don't worry, you can install replacements, one of the best right now is the touch HD's keyboard, it's already here check the other thread
about other softwares, well they're pretty crap, but I personally already have a lot of essential 3rd party softwares waiting to be installed once I got the phone.
1. the screen resolution is the same as the HD, but in a smaller screen.
so this means that everything is smaller on your screen.
does this make if difficult to use your fingers to use the phone?
yeah everything is smaller on the screen, using your fingers only on the screen is alright but dont expect to type with the built in on screen keyboard with ur hand.. its bloody useless without the stylus..
2. if i am not mistaking, the screen is not on the surface but its a little lower.
does this make it difficult to use your fingers (for X button and stuff like that)
erm.. i dont think it makes it more difficult, i have no problem pressing the x button although u can just press the ok button on the bottom much easier..
3. is the flash on the camera any good?
nope.. its basically a flashlight from the old se phones...
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
everything is standard windows i think.. phone cal, contacts, sms and all..
5. is opera browser installed on it and default?
yepp but its semi useless (at least on mine..) for some reason if i use opera and type an address with the hardware keyboard the area where u enter text keeps dissapearing.. and it wont work most of time time unless you are on hspda..
6. any you tube app like on the diamond?
havent found one yet, the one on the tf3d dont work..
7. i listen music a lot when i am on the road.
is it easy to use?
is the sound good?
is it smooth when doing other things on the phone or will you notice the phone having to perform more?
cant really answer that.. as i use my iphone for that..
8. is there an easy way to rotate the screen when you want?
seeing there is no accelerometer
yeah flip the screen up and it rotates...
9. for the users who used the diamond
do you regret the switch or are you satisfied?
(mainly because of the panels vs tf3d and screen)
dont have a diamond but i installed tf3d on mine..
anheuer said:
I have a view questions because i am really in doubt about what phone to get.
The HD or the X1
hd because of the big screen and i love the tf3d.
x1 because of the keyboard (never had a sm with keyboard) and flash
What i would like to know about the X1 is:
1. the screen resolution is the same as the HD, but in a smaller screen.
so this means that everything is smaller on your screen.
does this make if difficult to use your fingers to use the phone?
It is smaller but I have no problems accessing things. In standard WinMo apps is can be a little annoying but you get used to it
2. if i am not mistaking, the screen is not on the surface but its a little lower.
does this make it difficult to use your fingers (for X button and stuff like that)
'Slight' recess but no issues
3. is the flash on the camera any good?
It is weak - I wouldn't rely on it. I am thinking primarily as a very weak torch rather than a flash
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
Standard WinMo - same as Touch HD and Daimond. WinMo is almost designed for you to run third party apps!
5. is opera browser installed on it and default?
Opera is installed, but it isn't default. A simple registry hack cures it. In my case it works absolutely fine on 3g/HSDPA or wireless. A very good mobile browser
6. any you tube app like on the diamond?
Nope. But if you get Coreplayer you can access youtube from there
7. i listen music a lot when i am on the road.
is it easy to use?
is the sound good?
is it smooth when doing other things on the phone or will you notice the phone having to perform more?
Haven't done an extended test but it appears absolutely fine. Again get a third party app to get the most out of it but of course with all players your headphones will make a difference
8. is there an easy way to rotate the screen when you want?
seeing there is no accelerometer
Open the keyboard or you can assign one of the bottom softkeys to do this
9. for the users who used the diamond
do you regret the switch or are you satisfied?
(mainly because of the panels vs tf3d and screen)
I have used the Diamond and it is good, but the TouchFlo 3D does become a bit 'meh' to me after a while. I find the SPB Mobile Shell Panel (free download from SE site) to be far better for my needs!
thanks for taking the time
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No problems! To be honest I had the same dilemma but I felt the Touch HD was just a bit too big for portability. The SE for me is the perfect phone! I am definitely glad I got it
Thanks for the comments!
so one more question
are you satisfied?
what is in your own opinion the pros and cons of this device.
in general and in comparison with diamond/pro/hd
soft and hardware
Pros
excellent screen
TT7 (GPS) works great
Reception and 3G reception very strong
Panels concept (yes I do like it - I believe there will be better panels coming out and the Radio Panel (best radio i've had on a mobile device!) and SPB Shell Panel show what is possible...
Quality contruction
Hardware keyboard (not a huge fan of software keyboards)
Works well as a phone (has the feeling of a phone i.e. not too wide etc.)
Cons
WinMo 6.1 is not really finger friendly
Camera (good during the day - not much use during the night)
anyone els who likes to share?
small other question, i noticed that some people are talking about an X1, X1a and X1i
What is the difference?
anheuer said:
anyone els who likes to share?
small other question, i noticed that some people are talking about an X1, X1a and X1i
What is the difference?
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X1a = US Version
X1i = EU Version
X1i has Euro 3G bands and 30 fps @ VGA video recording
X1a has US 3G bands and 24 fps @ QVGA video recording.
aah ok
Thanks!
Anyone els wants to share there opinion?
One other question i thought of is:
On my diamond i use S2U2 to prevent my screen to be pushed when in my pocket.
this because i dont like the one windows mobile offers (with 2 taps)
is there a different solution made by se?
or..........?
I want to ask too, does X1 has audio recorder app that not just to record incoming call?
I own a Touch Pro and a X1 and I really think X1 is the best phone ever done. And finallly the GPS lag is gone¡¡¡
danielherrero said:
I own a Touch Pro and a X1 and I really think X1 is the best phone ever done. And finallly the GPS lag is gone¡¡¡
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what are the main reasons you prefer the x1 over the pro?
(soft and hardware)
anheuer said:
One other question i thought of is:
On my diamond i use S2U2 to prevent my screen to be pushed when in my pocket.
this because i dont like the one windows mobile offers (with 2 taps)
is there a different solution made by se?
or..........?
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X1 has the ordinary WM lock function. You activate it by a long press on the end call button. Unlocking is the same as usual, press left soft button and then Unlock button on the display.
Actually you can press any button (Panel, OK, Volume etc.) and then right soft button to unlock also, call it a feature or a bug.
I prefer using a short press on the powerbutton to simply switch off the display. This locks all keys and the display as well. One more press and your back.
on8a said:
X1 has the ordinary WM lock function. You activate it by a long press on the end call button. Unlocking is the same as usual, press left soft button and then Unlock button on the display.
Actually you can press any button (Panel, OK, Volume etc.) and then right soft button to unlock also, call it a feature or a bug.
I prefer using a short press on the powerbutton to simply switch off the display. This locks all keys and the display as well. One more press and your back.
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Ok, but what if the device activates the screen.
because of an incoming sms or incoming call?
by the way, what does the call screen look like (when you get an incoming call and you want to accept or decline)
standard windows or something like htc does or......?
anheuer said:
what are the main reasons you prefer the x1 over the pro?
(soft and hardware)
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The look, Performance, GPS , screen, battery duration, I can use my earphones.
I know It hasnt g-sensor but I didnt use it too much. I think this feature is very good implemented in Omnia, but not in Diamond/Pro....
anheuer said:
Ok, but what if the device activates the screen.
because of an incoming sms or incoming call?
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The screen get's activated, but after the set time for the screensaver it's blank again. You can set it to wake up on any button or just the power button. So if you press a button while trying to get it out of your pocket and there just has been a missed call so the screen is on, it is not key locked. Small risk though.
by the way, what does the call screen look like (when you get an incoming call and you want to accept or decline)
standard windows or something like htc does or......?
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It's the normal windows screen. The left soft button silence the call, the right replies with a standard text message.
I don't know if this is something you can do, but can you find a way to do this on the tf3d?:
1) Edit the "calender" button on the main screen so I can choose it to launch Pocket Informant calender instead of the normal calender?
2) Edit the ammount of agendas to be shown on the main screen? I mean,it only displays like two?
3) Get rid of the call history on the main screen for more room.
4) Make it so if I click on the clock, it won't go to the clock editing screen? Twice my time changed when I had it in my pocket. I REALLY wish the power button on my FUZE was as harder to push as the one on the Tilt.
5) Get rid of the delay when going from one tab to another? I don't mean the heavy delay on the contacts tab, but the 1-2 second pause when going from one tab to another? I think the pause is from a screen fade or something.
And this one would be hard:
1) Would it be possible to make the clock 50% smaller so more appointments show on the main screen without swiping to the secondary main screen?
Anybody? I think the clock one might be possible, but haven't found a small one yet.
Hey!
1. & 4. It is possible there is a little prog out here that redirects that buttons.
5. I think is not possible because it caused by a lag cpu power sometimes
The rest: +1
I was thinking the same about the home screen. But there are some heavy problems.
-No SDK --> Everything has to be coded in tf3d's mode9/lua language/script mix that is hardly known. Especially editing mode9 is a pain in the ass at this time, cause there is no documentation and everything has to be cracked. Anyway, there are a few people that understand the platform enough to be able to somthing like that.
I was working on a semiautomated mode9 editor but havn't got the time... perhaps I will resume that project one day.
Then it would be possible...
starstreak said:
I don't know if this is something you can do, but can you find a way to do this on the tf3d?:
1) Edit the "calender" button on the main screen so I can choose it to launch
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are you talking about the softkey. the 'button' at the bottom of the screen? you can edit your softkeys by editing the keys in this directory:
Go to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila key in your registry
homeRSK is right softkey.
No, not the two soft buttons. The one that's actually in TF3D. The one that says Calender on the TODAY part of the screen
ngravatt said:
are you talking about the softkey. the 'button' at the bottom of the screen? you can edit your softkeys by editing the keys in this directory:
Go to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila key in your registry
homeRSK is right softkey.
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I would like to resurrect this topic, as I have exactly the same questions which - to date, remain unanswered.
My agenda thingy suddenly diceded it was time to stop working as a button :s
when I press it noting happens?!?
So I would like the button to start working again AND would like he rest as well.
someone? any help? ideas?
mderm said:
Hey!
1. & 4. It is possible there is a little prog out here that redirects that buttons.
5. I think is not possible because it caused by a lag cpu power sometimes
The rest: +1
I was thinking the same about the home screen. But there are some heavy problems.
-No SDK --> Everything has to be coded in tf3d's mode9/lua language/script mix that is hardly known. Especially editing mode9 is a pain in the ass at this time, cause there is no documentation and everything has to be cracked. Anyway, there are a few people that understand the platform enough to be able to somthing like that.
I was working on a semiautomated mode9 editor but havn't got the time... perhaps I will resume that project one day.
Then it would be possible...
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I think you mean SSMaPa, you can get it here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
iharkins said:
I think you mean SSMaPa, you can get it here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
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Thanks! That's exactly what I need.
Hey does anyone knows how i can tweak my touch pro 2 screen to make it more sensitive? thanks
i don't think you can, it has probably something to do with the hardware.
Have a look at Advanced Configuration Tool -- it has settings under HTC TouchFLO for Finger Pressure and Pressure Threshold -- don't know if this will make any difference, but it sounds good.
i think aligning the screen from the settings menu does that
tried the advance thing no good man i want my screen to be more responsive and sensitive
there is a registry key that you can change to do this that works, i cant remember from memory, Try searching
guntcent said:
Hey does anyone knows how i can tweak my touch pro 2 screen to make it more sensitive? thanks
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I see on your sig you are using photon ROM, have a look on tools-tweaks and open WVGA tweak, scroll down and you´ll see a section to adjust sensibility.
Hope it helps,
orb3000 said:
I see on your sig you are using photon ROM, have a look on tools-tweaks and open WVGA tweak, scroll down and you´ll see a section to adjust sensibility.
Hope it helps,
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well the finger pressure is normal but it said intermediate as advised soo is there anything else?
when u align the screen use the stylus and touch it very lightly the screen remembers how soft u touch it so just barely touch it it works 4 me my screen is very sensitive try it
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well the finger pressure is normal but it said intermediate as advised soo is there anything else?
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"Advised" means just that, that its the default normal advised setting.
Just make it a little more sensitive a setting and try it out
Just what the title says. cant find any tweak in google...
borgqueenx said:
Just what the title says. cant find any tweak in google...
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Try checking the settings...
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Try checking the settings...
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i have heard on youtube reviews it is not possible...thats why i am wondering.
the iphone browsing experience is great, and is full screen.
On the Leo it is not full screen, even when you zoom out.
what about ticking auto full screen in the settings menu?
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Just what the title says. cant find any tweak in google...
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I'm a little confused by this. Do you mean Opera 10? I only ask because the default Opera (9.7) that comes installed on the device is always in full screen, except when you use the menus.
same for opera 10.. always in fullscreen except when using the menus
maby i said it wrong...with fullscreen i ment viewing the whole page. only able to scroll down, not sideways.
Opera always goes to fullscreen mode automatically.
And actually it goes to REAL fullscreen, not like on the iPhone where you still have that bar on the bottom taking away screen real estate (that's already very limited on the iPhone anyway, with that low resolution and smaller screen).
Don't know where you found that information that Opera would not do this, but it's wrong.
You can turn that off in the settings, however.
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maby i said it wrong...with fullscreen i ment viewing the whole page. only able to scroll down, not sideways
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Ah yes, now I understand what you mean. Yes, you can do that also, by setting the "virtual screen width" higher.
if it still wont work, type about:config in your browser
and then go to user prefs and see if there are some options permanently activatet wich do not allow the browser to go into fullscreen!
This is what you're searching for:
- type about:config
- click on 'adaptive zoom settings'
- set 'virtual screen width' to 1000 (or something great enough for all the pages you visit)
- click 'save' and restart Opera
Thanks for the question, I'll include this in my next ROM
I like not having to scroll sideways, but was too lazy to change it
yeah thats it! i was to lazy to get my phone to look it up^^
freyberry said:
This is what you're searching for:
- type about:config
- click on 'adaptive zoom settings'
- set 'virtual screen width' to 1000 (or something great enough for all the pages you visit)
- click 'save' and restart Opera
Thanks for the question, I'll include this in my next ROM
I like not having to scroll sideways, but was too lazy to change it
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alrighty. thanks for the answer.
i think im gonna sell my 3Gs
Does anyone know how to change the increments that the volume changes by when using the volume buttons. They increase/decrease too much for me (increments too large). I know you can use the screen but when using the buttons you don't get this granularity/smaller step in volume
alecs said:
Does anyone know how to change the increments that the volume changes by when using the volume buttons. They increase/decrease too much for me (increments too large). I know you can use the screen but when using the buttons you don't get this granularity/smaller step in volume
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i moaned about this a while back, it's dumb, but no one seemed to agree
Use your finger ? lol
You can also change to the "sense music volume slider" (the green one with smaller steps) by reading a little here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616917
(it doesn't work in all applications though, but most!)
I have to agree, the steps are to large. I allways have to take my phone up and use the finger to adjust it to where i want it. I know ppl say "use ur finger etc" but since the buttons are there it should't be necessary to use ur finger.
Eggy88 said:
I have to agree, the steps are to large. I allways have to take my phone up and use the finger to adjust it to where i want it. I know ppl say "use ur finger etc" but since the buttons are there it should't be necessary to use ur finger.
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exactly, i've used my finger to bring the volume up, why do i then have to use another finger to adjust it, its balls is what it is, balls lol
Folks, I looked at the posting that was provided and it offers another screen control for the volume. What I find strange is that with all the expertise on this forum all the great Roms, Cabs, and other ingenious registry tweaks etc nobody has found a way to modify the increments (which are obviously there) to be made available to the physical volume controls.
I suspect this is because it hasn't been investigated by many as it has not been seen as something in demand. However I would like to say that it is in demand and I'll give you my reason for its request. I have my device in the car in a phone holder and when driving I wear headphones (not HTC headphones). I often need a more granular ability to change the volume through the physical controls without looking at the screen so I can keep my eyes on the road.
I am sure there are many more instances such as this where people need this.
So if there is anyone out there that can help I am sure there would be many more people than on this thread that would give thanks once such a method is discovered.
hmmm...nobody any idea how to get the volume steps smaller?
alecs said:
Does anyone know how to change the increments that the volume changes by when using the volume buttons. They increase/decrease too much for me (increments too large). I know you can use the screen but when using the buttons you don't get this granularity/smaller step in volume
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I agree that the steps are also too large! I cant' seem to change it to smaller increments.
Bump. +1
Just seen this. I often use the volume rocker when my phone is in my pocket, or when I cannot look at the screen. 1 bar increments please!
please.. we really need this..
Bumpation. This would be extremely helpful, especially when listening to music.Or ever.
... +1!
+1. Still no one found it out
There has already been an answer in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5788608&postcount=4
Have any of you actually tried it?