Hi All,
I would like to supply XDA's to a client, who plans on using them
for GPRS only. They do not want their workers to have the ability
to use them as Phones. Is there any way of removing the Phone
Dialer App (from ROM or otherwise), so that they couldn't key in
a phone number?
The only option I can think of is Kiosk mode with that SP Kiosk
App?
cube said:
Hi All,
I would like to supply XDA's to a client, who plans on using them
for GPRS only. They do not want their workers to have the ability
to use them as Phones. Is there any way of removing the Phone
Dialer App (from ROM or otherwise), so that they couldn't key in
a phone number?
The only option I can think of is Kiosk mode with that SP Kiosk
App?
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On any SIM you can block selected outgoing calls.... Check on the options your phonecompany gives you.
Maybe you could lock the SIM to only allow dialing out to phonenr. stored on the SIMcard itself (being zero, for example )
Thanks the reply,
I'd rather remove the ability to phone because I would rather
the end user didn't even know it was a phone. The SIM Lock
option isn't a bad idea, but they could stick other SIM cards in
it, which our customer does not want.
cube said:
Thanks the reply,
I'd rather remove the ability to phone because I would rather
the end user didn't even know it was a phone. The SIM Lock
option isn't a bad idea, but they could stick other SIM cards in
it, which our customer does not want.
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Not with a sim-lock and even then, they are calling at their own cost...
If you block it on the XDA, it can be hacked on the XDA, make it SIM-Dependant... A hardreset wil alway restore the phoneapplication. Only way would be to create a own rom without phoneoptions.
And still they wil be able to hack it, by installing phonesoftware, or installing their own ROM... Read this forum :mrgreen:
Again : If you block it on the XDA, it can be hacked on the XDA...
cube said:
Thanks the reply,
I'd rather remove the ability to phone because I would rather
the end user didn't even know it was a phone. .........
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I thought that, if a guy is smarter enough to know how to use it and to know its has GPRS, then he would know it is a phone.
cube said:
I would like to supply XDA's to a client, who plans on using them for GPRS only. They do not want their workers to have the ability
to use them as Phones. Is there any way of removing the Phone
Dialer App (from ROM or otherwise), so that they couldn't key in
a phone number?
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You can edit ROM and remove cprog.exe application. Just use any hex editor to change its name to something like "lalala.la". But a clever user would take this file from another ROM and install to their device. Or would reflash the device.
cube said:
I would rather the end user didn't even know it was a phone.
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Bit difficult - the start call and end call buttons will be a bit of a give-away!
I agree with the others that a modified ROM is probably the easiest/cheapest way - simply remove the phone app and even a hard-reset won't restore it but this won't stop the bright user from mod'ing the ROM himself.
Hey all,
//************EDIT******
Move to the end of 4th page for the NEW version
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Ultimately security software for Pocket PC devices (phone edition only)..
The software checks the SIM card every time u do a soft reset or even HARD-RESET to yr fone.. So if that SIM aint yrs(the one specified in the program itself), it sends an SMS to another specified number(maybe to yr Dad' #) from the thief' SIM card, presuming that any thief after stealing, wld through away yr SIM and put his own in yr device and doesnt know the secret about this software..
The software also doesnt let the thief know that its been installed or running or an sms is been sent to yr number.. So u can keep him unnoticed until u track him down and shoot!
NOTE:
The DEMO version attached below will not send an sms but instead it shows up a message box sayin if its yr SIM or changed one..
SMS feature will be available in the full version only..
-If yr visiting this page for the first time, i reccomend u to skip two pages of posted replies as it contains posts abt the beta version.
EDIT:
To get the full version pm me..
How would this help if I flash a stolen device with another ROM?
What if the sent SMS carries a number of an anonymous prepaid card?
What's the benefit over this free program? It looks to me like they do exactly the same?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2526
Oh yeah...!
The software would have sent the sms as soon as the SIM is changed and even before the device becomes usable and so before flashing, u got the punk' Number..
But a normal thief, wldn do such stuff!
I checked that jus now..!
i checked that post jus now!
It is a more complicated process and basically works with owner information.. it fails if the thief doesnt change that..
Mine works by SIM card.. as soon as the new SIM is inserted, it recognizes and sends the messages..
Itz nice u guys come put more questions to make me challenging
But still, im an MBBS student and i had this hobby of programming for long.. So im jus designing things to satisfy myself
So, If yr intrested, u can try mine...
this app needs more love. its a great idea. most pikeys that find or steal a phone like this wouldnt know the first thing on how to flash it!. might be a good idea to include the following data in the SMS
current cell site associated with it or the area code for the current area.
maybe any other data that you can gleam from the sim card
Carty: have you posted this anywhere for download or trial? I can't see any links...
V
Tats a gud question too
Hey vijay,
This software, to make the security level higher, has the SIM info written in the program itself.. itz no point askin for trial cz itz gonna work as i say.. If anyone wants to buy, i first give a small program that will read the info from SIM & msg me thru SMS..then i rite the same to the program & give u.. so that ting works only wit yr SIM & none else cld try using it! After making it sure that the software works as i said, u can pay me then! but still i don kno any way to get yr money to me here.. The only option is thru mail, if u have any oter better option, temme...!
have a look at www.paypal.com
that's a popular method of payment used by ebay sellers worldwide..
Awrite, planned for the DEMO...
As u guys need a DEMO, ive made it..
First u gotta install the attached app, It reads yr SIM and sends me the required information.. I then incorporate those details into the program and send you the trial..
Hi Carty,
Speaking for myself only; I don't like trying a Sim ripper which send who knows what info to an unknown person. Guess the program could extract a lot more from my sim or magician (eg imei) than I would like to be send over the internet.
Like your id, but at the moment no thanks, unless I can bind my (ascii)data self into the program.
Guess it will be written into the rom to survive a hard-reset & I don't want my device locked by anything, got I hate sim-locks. So there must be a bypass or de-install as well.
Another prob i can think off, what about dual-sim owners?
Again I like the idea, but am paranoid in this field.
Regards, M
Nice precautions..
Yr too carefull abt yr device i gezz.. Tats gud! anyway this software survives Hard-reset as told, but not needed to be surely put in ROM.. The exe file is kept in a folder 2577 in yr internal storage renamed as Autorun.exe and so it gets executed.. The main advantage is that it doesn require any installation necessarily, jus the exe file can be executed just after hard reset.. The folder' attribute is set to be hidden and so wont show up normally.. But if the thief' aware of this, he can delete that file wit yr SIM in it and then do a hard reset..For this reason, ROM incorporation wld be usefull.. But i don think a thief wld do all such stuff as his first concentration would be to change the SIM and once changed, itz finished!
But still, y i din try incorporating the file in ROM cz, if the thief cld find the facility of autorun in folder 2577, he wld very well know abt flashing ROMs and so its no point.. But in real life, a thief normally wont have such knowledge and thats wer my software helps..
Awrite, to those who r really worried and don trust my software to get the only required info, Im letting out the secret, itz jus the phone number that was used to check the sim.. So gemme yr number thru private message to me.. The point of making a software to gemme the detail is to avoid the country code error as some SIM contains those while the oters dont.. Mine din have so u gemme without country code..
program for sim data
I installed your program and executed it. It didn't seem to do anything on my universal, but now I can't uninstall it. How do I get rid of whatever it did or didn't do? Is it supposed to send you an sms? I don't think it did so as my prepaid sim card does not show any less money than was on it before.
Carty,
Just pm'd you my number to check & to send the alert to. As the program ends up in storage resco must be able to show it, it shows all my hidden files.
Regards, M
Course I check before changing sim's
Back againn...
Today morning i checked by changing some SIM cards and some din have their number in it.. Bad network providers, they don even put their number in SIM cards.. So for these cases, im gonna change the coding in my software to send an sms if the number is not present also..So right now this software should work only to those having their SIM cards with their own number in it provided by the operator..
Oltp, i got yr number and wld do the demo for you today evening and post it here.. and before, install my check software and press the read sim button and if it says read succesfull, then yr SIM has number and the software would work.. U dont have to press the second button saying send request as u wer scared to send any information though it reads nothing oter than yr sim number..
chetccox, there should be two buttons in tat check software.. first one gets enabled wen u type sumthin in the name textbox and on pressing the read sim button, second one would get enabled and saying Read succesfull.. if u got this message read successfull, then yr sim has yr number and the software has detected it.so on pressing the send request button, the number would be sent to me, im not sure y it din send the sms..Maybe yr number doesn allow international sms or so... Anyway il do the demo for you too today evening and post here..
For others, im gonna change the check software, instead of sending me the sms, it would directly display the number on yr screen.. Its jus to make sure that yr SIM has yr number and the software is capable of detecting it and so the Theft Alert software would work fine..
Everything today evening as im held up in my college..
Lil abt me for u guys, Im actually an MBBS student, doin my third yr. Programming was my hobby for a long time and i have great intrest in it.. Lately im tryin to improve my skills to target on smart devices (Poket PCs) since i own one, id like to customize it to my needs as i wish!
@Carty,
I think this software _could_ be interesting to quite a few of us, provided you get it running without us having to send you any personal details - that's the things we are trying to keep to ourselves in the first place.
But please, please write your messages in real english, not some made up stuff. Trying to figure out what you mean by guessing how you pronounce words in your local lingo, makes my head hurt :-(
Anyway, together with PDAKill, this could be an essential piece of software for security aware users, so keep up the good work.
why dun u jus make a program that stays in the rom and would only sms to a desired number the number the thief is using whenever there is a sim change. then this way the thief cannot run away wit ur device. u can jus keep harrassing him or get the police involved as well. even better if it can make use the telco towers.
Dear Carty,
Apparently the Dutch sim's aren't containing the phone number either:
NetCF.exe
Exception
Could not get phone number from SIM
Application::Run+0xf
Form1::Main+0xa
We need to find some other unique id from the sim.
Cheers, M
Yew gt me..
Hi oltp,
Tats de same error i gt wen using it wit my fren' SIM.. So letz try this idea.. The sim phonebuk has a place for own numbers.. can v write our numbers to it and access it to check? or even most of us wont use the SIM phonebook, so v cld write it down an entry in it and access.. Can v..?
By the way, oltp, i used to program with Visual Basic .net 2003.. Wot abt u..?
HBK said:
@Carty,
Anyway, together with PDAKill, this could be an essential piece of software for security aware users, so keep up the good work.
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PDAKill wld be of no use.. Cz, wen yr fone been stolen, the first thing the thief wld do is to throw away yr SIM and wer wld yr msg go to Kill yr fone..?
hey
i have been using the xda mini s and my mate started to give me some software to place on it, i installed the Wisbar advanced on there and i really like this piece of software. the only problem is and i dnt understand how, is that when i send a txt message, it resends the same txt message again to the same person, it had sent 5 to the same person. i turned it off and it doesnt seem to do it anymore, is it the software of teh phone, and does anyone know of any of software similar to this.
Also music which i store on my sd card i can save them as my ringtone, but when i put wisbar on, i dnt have the option. i can install something which allows me to do so but is there anyway i can change this too
hope this makes sences
shane
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=15466 <-- this is the software
Since it is your first post.. I'll give you the first answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51376&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54695&highlight=
for the second question, try using the search button above
Strange SMS.exe
Right i need a hand from one of you clever folks.
Basically the whole ability to view/send/edit any form of messaging has disappeared, every single link in all of my panels or apps where im usually able to enter the messaging application are dead...i mean there there but when i click them nothing happens....
even when i go in through the start menu etc i wont work...
now i know i can hard reset and start again but id rather not ....just got my setup how i like it.... so if possible need a soloution.
was wondering is there a sms.exe or a messaging cab or something that i can reload from the directory? if so where is it cos i cant find anything like tht when i look via file explorerr....i guess im hoping i can just reinstal the cab and it will all be fine.
thank you for any help.
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right this is really freakin me out now!! i put my sim in another fone and i cant access the text messages from that either! so it must be a settin or something that i have done on my x1 thats messed it up....ive had a look in all the settings i can find for sms (of which i couldnt find many) and cant seem to fix it....someone please help i have no idea wot to do!
no1_fred said:
right this is really freakin me out now!! i put my sim in another fone and i cant access the text messages from that either! so it must be a settin or something that i have done on my x1 thats messed it up....ive had a look in all the settings i can find for sms (of which i couldnt find many) and cant seem to fix it....someone please help i have no idea wot to do!
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So maybe your SIM is broken?
Have you tried another SIM card in the xperia?
Hm...but messages aren't stored on the SIM card anymore -they are all in the phone's memory.
I would suggest trying another SIM card.
If this does not help and noone else has an answer, a hardreset would be the best way.
arrgghh
so tried another sim in fone and that dosnt work either...so whatever it is its on the fone and the sim card!
Well I had a similar issue...I would often have to restart the phone in order to get the messaging icons working. The problem was the message delivery report...i just disabled this with xperia tweak. Although it sounds as though your issue could perhaps be a little more complex.
i need serious help guys pls..im from india n recently a month back i bought HD2 n lost my phone yest..is der any way of tracking it n able to finda da home plss...help me out..i need hd2 back plsss
i want to know how to get back my phone n how can i block it if i cant find da phone...HELP
If u didnt get an anti theft software on ur hd2, then im afraid u lost ur device
I think there isnt anything u can do about it srry m8
I'm guessing that you didn't install any programs that can track it? eg, microsoft my phone our similar? I take it that you've called it? as soon as you block it your chances of recovery diminish.
software
Any recommendations for good (ideally free...) tracking software to install?
You were meant to be able to find your phone using Microsoft MyPhone, but it doesnt seem to support the premium features on the HD2, I've made several posts about this but no body seems to care
markchip said:
Any recommendations for good (ideally free...) tracking software to install?
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yes, remotetracker - excellent, loads of features.
find it HERE
DMAND said:
You were meant to be able to find your phone using Microsoft MyPhone, but it doesnt seem to support the premium features on the HD2, I've made several posts about this but no body seems to care
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I use remotetracker(see previous post) and in that the creator has had to implement a different set of code to make it work on the hd2, it seems the regular way of hooking into the sms service doesn't work for the hd2, I'd guess this is the same issue myphone is having.