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Laptop Replacement

Hello I have just recently began looking into the idea of a UMPC. I look at the stats on these and they seem decent at least some of them with 1 gig of ram and what not. Can these devices function as a laptop/desktop/pda replacement or have they not made it that far yet?

Device is intresting but it is no voice capable and no built GPS
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/htc-shift-the-cellphone-company-finally-goes-umpc/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsItEPFEn8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3VAAm1GrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuNOV2StRog

if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")

pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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It has now been confirmed that the shift can make voice calls.
See the thread in the Athena forum for a link to a new video showing the phone pad on the shift.

ive seen a UMPC with the built in GPS and the voice functionality. Im just asking if this can run all the programs that a pc can. Like will i be able to active snyc a PPC. I have stumbled upon an interesting site that has quite a bit of affordable UMPCs...
http://www.dynamism.com/htc-shift/pricing.shtml
Shift is a bit pricey on this site.

Hell no!
It's a glorified comms device - that's all.
If you think even a little bit that it can replace even a fraction of your PC usage, you're gonna be very dissapointed and waste a ton of cash.
Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no.
This was much covered in the days of the Universal, and things have not improved much I'm afraid.
Forget it! Can't be clearer.

"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff

HELLO
Rudegar said:
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
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yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!

spzero said:
yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
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do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more

koala996 said:
do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
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just check out the athena upgrading forums and read the thread on shift making phone calls

Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.

thaihugo said:
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
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wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.

pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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aka shift

Pawel062 said:
wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.

koala996 said:
well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.

Pawel062 said:
idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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i'm not talking about ADDING a phone or a gps ... but about downloading "THE" cab you are talking about... and installing this cab.. I have used the Shift a little .. and it seems that there is no way to access the SnapVue ... just use the snapvue.. but impossible to see something behind it ... no explorer, no I.E. ... and I think that it can't be synchronized with a computer.

surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)

spzero said:
surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.

Olipro said:
Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Hey no problem just hope it can be cracked and hacked away at till we get a usable device

I want to buy one... is it avalible yet. i saw something about it being released in europe already...

can a portable application be used on windows mobile

hello you may think this a stupid question but i have tried to find the awnser, and its is probably 'no' but i want to know. can anyone help
thanks

fred_loves_ginger said:
hello you may think this a stupid question but i have tried to find the awnser, and its is probably 'no' but i want to know. can anyone help
thanks
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yes and no....the yes part first....if you use your storage card and phone like a portable drive then you can store all the apps you have room for....wm5trorage is great to use in this way....also certain flash apps will run...( i dont know which ones ...google is your friend here) ....on the no side...I haven't heard of or come across any knowledge of any app working directly from within the mobile environment....not one that was not altered to do so in some way .....my two pennies....hope they help

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yes and no....the yes part first....if you use your storage card and phone like a portable drive then you can store all the apps you have room for....wm5trorage is great to use in this way....also certain flash apps will run...( i dont know which ones ...google is your friend here) ....on the no side...I haven't heard of or come across any knowledge of any app working directly from within the mobile invironment....not one that was not altered to do so in some way .....my two pennies....hope they help
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thanks
two pennies is better than nothing

forgot to mention I know that it's possible from the storage card vantage because for a short while I ran opera portable from my phone that way ....so when I was at work I could use my own browser and minimize my footprint and control my information....worked like a charm...I wonder if it's possible to perhaps put a U3 type program on the phone where one could do more and have it boot on connect........that would be a nice app.... in theory you can put the suite they offer for free at http://portableapps.com haven't tried that but it should work

Mobile Tracker/Locator for TD2

I have seen some of the mobiles now a days comes with Mobile Locator / Tracker application. This application will help the owner when the mobile is lost/stolen, even if the SIM card is changed and reflashed.
So we have such kind of application for this WM phone?

No reply or no suggestions yet

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I have seen some of the mobiles now a days comes with Mobile Locator / Tracker application. This application will help the owner when the mobile is lost/stolen, even if the SIM card is changed and reflashed.
So we have such kind of application for this WM phone?
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the one n only soft ive heard of is..hmm..i forgot the name, but u can find it here on the forum)BUT the soft im talkin about requires bein connected to a network n once u reflesh, the soft is gone.In fact it doesnt make any sense to me, once u reflesh,everythins gone, so i cant rly imagine how it would send out any kind of data...but fcourse, i might b wrong.

Try wimp or spb terminator. Work both pretty ok. Sends text messages on sim-change with new number. Gathers location through GPS.
If you hard reset, it's gone.... so try to cook it into your rom and you're done.

There is also remote tracker, haven't tried it; but seems to have good reviews:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-remotetracker.html

Thanks all for the reply. I will also see some review and try those.
Please keep posting new things...
Thanks!!!

Remote tracker working on Topaz?
Has anyone gotten Remote Tracker to work on the Topaz? Seems like a great program from reading the manual, but I cannot get it to work on my ATT Pure for no apparent reason. At least a couple of other people around with the same problem.
Remote Tracker
Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/mobilejustice.shtml
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-silent-spy.html

Remote Tracker works on my HTC Touch Diamond 2 - UK Model, on Windows Mobile 6.5 (from HTC site, not a cooked rom).

Thanks all for al the links
I think this is also one http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/
But we need to make sure that the Software is Cooked in our ROM. Else ONE Hardreset will close the chapter .
Thoughts...
Thanks.
Others:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-remotetracker.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-silent-spy.html

Lost my HD2

Well i lost my phone on sunday, my fault but still verry annoyed. I tried using the myphone advanced features before but they never worked! Would have been so handy at this time, anyway I wasnt insured so I have to buy another one.
Anyone know what insurance companies are good for covering my HD2?
Im hoping someone hands it in, but in london thats highly unlikely

Can't help you this time round; but when you buy your replacement, go the Sprite Backup's website. They are offering HTC owners a discount on Sprite backup, plus an app (better than Microsoft's) called 'Terminator' that tracks your phone on Google Maps, disables/wipes it if you want. It will also send you an SMS if anyone tries to change the SIM card. But it will noy operate after a hard reset.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup-htc-special

interesting
now if someone would develop an app that could be built into a custom rom that would (unless disabled by a password after a hard reset) transmit a call log, the current sim number, the latitude/longtitude somewhere we'd have a pretty good chance of screwing up any thieve's plans... unless they know how to flash a rom. (although they shouldn't really be aware that this program is activated after a hard reset so they generally wouldn't know to flash the rom...)

josep54 said:
now if someone would develop an app that could be built into a custom rom that would (unless disabled by a password after a hard reset) transmit a call log, the current sim number, the latitude/longtitude somewhere we'd have a pretty good chance of screwing up any thieve's plans... unless they know how to flash a rom. (although they shouldn't really be aware that this program is activated after a hard reset so they generally wouldn't know to flash the rom...)
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Hey ...
Yes ... this would be really great.
An sms would pretty much be good enough.
Well unless the person is a regular here as well. LOL!!!

Stephen Selby said:
Can't help you this time round; but when you buy your replacement, go the Sprite Backup's website. They are offering HTC owners a discount on Sprite backup, plus an app (better than Microsoft's) called 'Terminator' that tracks your phone on Google Maps, disables/wipes it if you want. It will also send you an SMS if anyone tries to change the SIM card. But it will noy operate after a hard reset.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup-htc-special
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Not sure if it is compatible with HD2, says on there site "Supports all Windows Mobile 5, 6 and 6.1 Phones"

Try this next time...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
Also the author offers the possibility to cook it directly in the ROM.

muntos said:
Try this next time...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
Also the author offers the possibility to cook it directly in the ROM.
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lol. as with any great idea it's already been done, here

p4rma said:
Well i lost my phone on sunday, my fault but still verry annoyed. I tried using the myphone advanced features before but they never worked! Would have been so handy at this time, anyway I wasnt insured so I have to buy another one.
Anyone know what insurance companies are good for covering my HD2?
Im hoping someone hands it in, but in london thats highly unlikely
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I too lost my last phone HTC Viva (opal) in public transport.. i had installed various security software which wud sen sms incase sim is changed...... but didi got..... i think nothin worlks if ur thief is xda reader .....
one thinng we can do is insure ur phone or else avoid public transport lol....

is there a way to stop someone from seeing my info on the phone? I reported it lost to o2 and they said it would be blocked.
The phones gone, i just dont want the lucky sob to see all of my stuff

Will O2 offer to sell you a replacement HD2?
When I was with Orange many moons ago, if you didn't have insurance and lost/damaged your phone they would offer you a replacement (refurbished but looked new) at a reduced price (about a third of the RRP) as long as long as you would then take out insurance.
Just wondering if O2 offer anything like this?

Nope, they just said "We are sorry, there is nothing we can do" lol well something like that.
lol wish there was a remote self destruct on the phone

p4rma said:
Nope, they just said "We are sorry, there is nothing we can do" lol well something like that.
lol wish there was a remote self destruct on the phone
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Did you try to call your old number? Maybe the one who found the phone is honest and will give it back.

when I rang it, went straight to voicemail. this happened all night and into the morning, so eventually I got o2 to block the phone.
I have my replacement sorted now, through my house insurance. (really didnt wanna do that) expensive excess at that! £250!!!
The **** thing about the police, pardon my language is the fact that if handed in I have to check with any police station which it could have been handed in at, there is no centralised lost storage system.
Oh well, you live and learn just hope my phone didnt have as much info as i thought it did!
I might write to HTC see if they can do something via the imei number.

ROM with theft protection.
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now if someone would develop an app that could be built into a custom rom that would (unless disabled by a password after a hard reset) transmit a call log, the current sim number, the latitude/longtitude somewhere we'd have a pretty good chance of screwing up any thieve's plans... unless they know how to flash a rom. (although they shouldn't really be aware that this program is activated after a hard reset so they generally wouldn't know to flash the rom...)
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Since we all will have different "settings" in the anti theft program there is not going to be a ROM that can include a functional recovery system. I would like someone here to teach us to replace our ROM with our current phone configuration, that way we can add our GPS protection software, configure it and replace the ROM. Is it possible?

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Since we all will have different "settings" in the anti theft program there is not going to be a ROM that can include a functional recovery system. I would like someone here to teach us to replace our ROM with our current phone configuration, that way we can add our GPS protection software, configure it and replace the ROM. Is it possible?
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well, i've not had time yet to read about creating a custom ROM nor the antitheft software linked in this thread but this is potentially the quickest solution.
but what I was envisaging was some form of registration with a webserver, probably based on serial number. i.e. with the software installed after every hard reset it would (when connected to the net) send the sim number and serial number to this webserver, thus allowing the registered owner to find all the information they need to really start messing with the thief. and from the updates on that anti-theft software thread i've seen there is talk of a webserver i think so this is probably the track they are going down...
unless the thief was to steal your HD2 and then not even use it once for the internet but that would be crazy

Speech Text Messaging?

Ok, so my city recently passed a huge ban on cell phone use while driving. I know I can have my phone reac any new message to me wehn it is received and I currently have it set up to do so. However, I have heard of other phone coming with a speech to text feature. Is there a wway to get something like this on the TPS where I can speak the reply to a text and be able to send it that way?

I don't know of any specific apps that do this, but I'm sure they're out there considering Bling and Google Maps have this technology.

I dont recomend trying to text while driving & dont like applications where you use voice commands but you should try this one
Code:
http://vitotechnology.com/voice2go.html
(not free but you could try the tial) it lets you control your whole phone by voice and you could add custom commands but im not sure if you could set it up to reply to sms.
ps: by the way nice to see another member from el paso

jdep1 said:
I dont recomend trying to text while driving & dont like applications where you use voice commands but you should try this one
Code:
http://vitotechnology.com/voice2go.html
(not free but you could try the tial) it lets you control your whole phone by voice and you could add custom commands but im not sure if you could set it up to reply to sms.
ps: by the way nice to see another member from el paso
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Thanks for this...I will give it a shot. Not only is it nice to see another member from ELP but also nice to see another person with a TP2!!! I have only seen a couple here in town!

This would be a very cool feature! I am interested in this also. Can anybody help out with this?

microsoft tell me
i had it on my phone ported from i think a samsung device.
it didnt fit too well with the screen resolution and whatnot, but it worked.
although it doesn't work if you have an accent or if you want to send messages to someone who has a rather unusual name

i went to a At&T store for help with something with a friend, he had and still has a verizon blackberry curve but anyways one of the associates there had a blackberry and showed him a whole buch of apps he got from a certian website (dont remember what it was) and one of them was a talk to text app and it work almost perfectly. ive been searcing for an app like that for windows mobile ever since then and that was almost 2 yrs ago!!!! i also just found out a few days ago from my girlfriend that theres a app like that for her iphone. i seriously dont know what microsoft is doin but they need to step their game up and to all the developers out there, you need to beat them to the punch!!!

Read email to you - what app?
What app are you using to have your HTC read email to you?
miked79928 said:
Ok, so my city recently passed a huge ban on cell phone use while driving. I know I can have my phone reac any new message to me wehn it is received and I currently have it set up to do so. However, I have heard of other phone coming with a speech to text feature. Is there a wway to get something like this on the TPS where I can speak the reply to a text and be able to send it that way?
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bparent said:
What app are you using to have your HTC read email to you?
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He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him

sirphunkee said:
He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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Didn't pick up on the SMS part. Looking for an app to read/speak email messages(non-SMS). Especially, would be nice to be able to filter by sender, subject, etc.

Ok, so I found a few cabs for TellMe, but they all crash shortly after launching. Any ideas?

im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!

antny said:
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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I use TellMeText Version 1.1.0 on my Rhodium Touch Pro 2. It installs and works okay. If the installation crashes, the best thing is to redownload it until it works fine. Also try the app on different ROMS.
I have used it on ARK_N's ROMS as well as on Leo Cell ROMS.
Make sure (I think) you install BlondieSoft_MobileCertificates cab prior to the intallation of the TellMeText cab.
Hopefully this should help.

Why not sooner.
If someone can rip the install from the Samsung Intrepid I think we can get something going.
The only other option is Vlingo and it is buggy at best, you can search the forums and people have had spotty success with it.
This could be a real difference breaker at this point in time in the Mobile Phone wars, I don't know why someone hasn't jumped on it and capitalized, tons of apps already use voice recognition (bing, google) for driving directions, I don't know why in a world where people are dieing left and right from txting while driving someone hasn't jumped on this.

antny said:
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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dude it doesn't make sense why your phone does that, i use it all the time and it never gives me problems and its such a great app.

maddb said:
dude it doesn't make sense why your phone does that, i use it all the time and it never gives me problems and its such a great app.
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The tell me ap works for some and not for others.. I believe it has something to do with the carrier you are with. That said.. you guys are probably better of going over to the tell me thread and reading through that to figure out how to get it working on your phone. I personally gave up. It would install fine on multiple roms I was running and as soon as I would to go speak a text to it it would just hang then give me some error.
Regardless... no sense in having multiple threads about the same thing!
Do a search in the Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps forum and you'll find it.

miked79928 said:
Ok, so I found a few cabs for TellMe, but they all crash shortly after launching. Any ideas?
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do you mind postin the cabs bro? i wanna see if i get the same results

TellMe does not work for AT&T customers on their network on anything but BlackBerry. I ran a packet trace and the packets leave the phone but there is NO response.
WiFi works fine but how often are you on WiFi on the go?
You need to install microsoft voice command FIRST then this. Just search, the cabs are posted.

hx4700 Killer said:
TellMe does not work for AT&T customers on their network on anything but BlackBerry. I ran a packet trace and the packets leave the phone but there is NO response.
WiFi works fine but how often are you on WiFi on the go?
You need to install microsoft voice command FIRST then this. Just search, the cabs are posted.
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wait so i have to get the voice command then find the tellme cab??? im confused haha

sirphunkee said:
He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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OK, I must be missing where to find this on my TP2.