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Is there a slimmer HTC Home?

Hey guys,
I love the functionality of HTC Home. However, I wished that the clock part of HTC Home is slimmed down so that there is more space for the today screen?
Is there any fix or alternative software that can please this soul?
Thanks
hpr

wisbar advance desktop...
its great, basically its a launcher that replaces today, but you can embed today plugins in it, so you could make the clock with a small font, then icons for the home tabs underneath, which correspond to programs, or docks, which arer small boxes that appear which have more shortcuts in them..
just a suggestion
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Does it have a section for fast contacts ? I've seen phoneAlarm, has most of the stuff except the contacts part. That's what I love because when I'm in the car its easier to make a call.

hotplainrice,
I must admit I don't use the home plugin as I find it rather crude in its look and function. I use a combination of SPB Pocketplus, SPB Mobile Shell, and their telephony plugin (can't remember what its called but checkout their website). I must admit my device is highly customised; however I like it just the way it is.
Have tried to use Wisbar but found it a pain to get the look and functionality that I have been looking for. However I have seen a lot of good stuff on the Wisbar forum so please keep an open mind.
Cheers
WB

yer erm you can make docks with contact pictures, so ive got mine set up to look like an iphone, ive got the phone button which goes to phone, or opens the dock with favourite contacts, then ive got sms, lock/internet, media player and finally my programs dock. And in my programs dock, i have a link to another page on WAD [it can have many pages] which has all my windows today plugins.. so has speed of the iphone and the functionality of windows.. so to answer your question, it does have easily accessible contacts, but you have to customise it yourself..
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I once used HTC Home Plugin, but troubled with the weather panel, so I uninstall it, and imo, the closest app to HTC Home plugin is SPC Mobile SHell 1.5 + SPB Phone Suite. Closest to intersface, yet more powerful ability...

just like those two guys, i use spb programs... when i said i had today plugins on a seperate page, i meant i have spb pocket plus 4, with diary and weather integrated into it..
spb programs are great
and wisbar is a pain, but once its done, it works perfectly
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There is of course the other HTC app "HTC Plus!" Clock, shortcuts and links to message folders without taking up the entire screen. Doesn't have the weather functionailty or music player control tho

rltoday has a skin that is like HTC Home but is slimmer. Might want to give it a look.

Check out HTC Plus! SHould be on the forums somewhere

Thinking of going down the wisbar way. HTC Plus is too simple, no contacts tab. Thanks guys for the replies.

i can send you my theme if you like.. i paid for it, but dont mind sending it.. just so yoou can get a go before you commit to buy it... but you'd still need to get the wisbar codes (10usd each).
rory
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Hey, that was cool, I'd like to have HTC Home Plugins Theme for WisBar Desktop... would you like to share for me too? tq =)
My last WisBar Desktop Theme was modified iPhone theme, create 3 virtual pages; Welcome screen, App shortcut, and Agenda (put pocket breeze plugins there)
thx!

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check out my phonealarm skin I made long time ago http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=5136.0

Use phonealarm. Its alot better, less buggy and more options.

Anyone with programing skills willing to help?

Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.

No one that can help me out?

You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.

SeanFromSoCal said:
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
SeanFromSoCal said:
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
SeanFromSoCal said:
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
SeanFromSoCal said:
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.

Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Focaldesign said:
Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Focaldesign said:
Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise

SeanFromSoCal said:
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.

howmany people go back to there original themes after downloading another one??

i dnt know if its only me but for some reason i always revert back to my original windows mobile today screen after i have tried some new ones. like they say the original is always the best.
anyone else like me out there?

Not yet, but I must confess I've been using my Magician and Hermes just for three years now. So maybe the moment I switch back to the origanal T-Mobile theme will come anywhere in the future LOL.
Now using a customised Ultimate Launch setup from Rumball. And have used many themes before like Throttle Launcher, Wisbar Advance, HTC Home.
It's all about being happy, isn't?
Just my 2C.

well, everytime installing a theme or add-on or plugin, i always return the standard HTC Home...for me it is the best, because i get attuned on the standard screen...

dortyboy said:
i dnt know if its only me but for some reason i always revert back to my original windows mobile today screen after i have tried some new ones. like they say the original is always the best.
anyone else like me out there?
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I understand you very well and i think what may be behind that backward to original theme.
Ofcourse there are many reasons like:
Themes design in a way that tiered our eyes
Themes with customization limits
Themes that eat a lot of memory
Themes that crash our pda's
etc etc etc
In my case i think i reach to a Software that a use for sometime now and and don't think i will change or reverse to another one.
I use the last WAD2 software and none of the reasons that i mention happens with this software.
I love it

I really don't under the attraction of some of the themes that many people use - 97 tiny icons on the front page.
I use a combination of
* photo contacts
* favourites
* calender
* Inbox
in the day and switch over to "samsung today" in the evening when I am out and about or in the pub.

I'm using Spb Mobile Shell, and some how I always come back the the 1.2.1 default theme. A lot of fancy themes out there. But the original one is crisp, clean and functional. Just the way I like it.

and i thought it was just me that felt this way...

Instaled SPB Mobile shell - download greatball's diamond theme
Uninstalll
Install
Uninstall
Install and have now still 2 months
Diamond original theme
- change
- back to my old
-diamond theme
- old with black top (like diamond)
- old with normal top, bottom black like original
- old with top like diamond, start menu like diamond....
- old like this up + green ehm.... choose?
- original diamond with my wallpaper :-D
This my history

I've used rlToday for a long time with a simple analog clock with sms email and missed call indicators only. I love using it because it is lite on memory and I can't accidently click anything on the screen. But as of late I was using HTC Home for the weather and music portion. As for the really nice themes that people make they only last at best a week with me then I go back. I guess they are just too much for my simple mind lol.

I have not went back to the original theme once changed. But, I change themes to get a newer & different home screen.

I change my device almost every week, at least ever since I joined xda! Every week there is a new theme, or a new launcher. Right now I am just waiting for WAD2 to be complete, and I'll probably create my theme, then stick with it for hopefully a while. I think I spend more time changing items on my Touch, then I do actually use it !
Not to mention, I have had a new ROM almost every few days since I starting building.

I've tried a lot of plugins. I started with the HTC Home Customizer. WAD and WA2 followed. Tried a lot of things with Ultimatelaunch and i'm using Throttlelauncher right now.
All previous configurations evolved to the theme i use right now. I download a lot of themes for different plugins and get new ideas every time to update my current theme.
I'm definitely not going back to the original HTC plugin. It's good, but there are a lot of things i don't use or are better of mapped under a hardware button. Throttlelauncher with plugins, iContact, Diamond Dialer and Diamond Comm Manager is my favorite combination at the moment.
That's for now... don't know what's happening tomorrow.

i switch themes and apps if not daily then every other day..
im addicted!

I'm the same way.

TheChampJT said:
I spend more time changing items on my Touch, then I do actually use it !
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heheeh, it is amazing how look a like we are !!!!

The "out of the box" theme is all but useless to me, a Touch owner. The cube serves no useful function other than the quick dialer, as none of the other programs it launches are useful.
I tried a lot of themes and plugins over the months, but none of them were really useful to me. In the end I created this one, which is a combination of rlToday and UltimateLaunch. Having spent the time to create my own icons, figure out how to make buttons that adjust flight mode and mute/vibrate, I can't imagine I'll ever use another theme than this.
With a little bit of patience, I've managed to create a theme that makes the Start menu and the stylus completely irrelevant, and using my device much more efficient. I still tweak it from time to time, and I'm still hopeful of learning how to make graphics change as battery charge changes, but that's not something that affects productivity, so it's not a priority for me.
I've found "theme nirvana"
AJ

Everytime I install those themes, I go back to the stock themes in less than a week

What can be shown on Homescreen of the HD?

Hi Folks,
i´ve just ordered my Touch HD, and i hope it will come to me before Santa (end of November i guess).
My question is: what can be seen on the homescreen of the HD? Today i use my good old friend, the wizard100. On the Todayscreen i have full Battery and Storage information, Weatherforecast for 4 Days, and calendar appointments showing up to 3 days. Also a today-link for tomtom. Is TF3D able to show this too? I need to see all these things on just one quick view. How customizable is TF3D?

Of coz u can.
Just install the softwares.

Which softwares in particular are you referring to?

My question was how many things is TF3D able to do without any external software. On my Wizard 100 i´ve installed following software: SPB Weather, SBSH Phoneweaver, SPB Time, Calendar+ , DeviceLock, Battrey Status nad TomTom. Except Tomtom i hope that TF3D could show me things like weather,Appointments and other things without installing other software. I like to use the HTC Homescreen, but i dont know how many information it is able to show?

Afaik it has the same home screen as the Diamond but probably with a little more info because of the added screen height. The diamond home screen shows clock, missed call status and first next calendar item.

And this is what i wanted to know: Do you think the HD would show more informations than the normal TF3D from f.e. the Diamond? This must be an complete different TF3D, or not?

It's not completely different, it is in fact rather similar. It has the same tabs bar the stock tab, and most tabs just show a little more info to complement to extra screen height. Also, it has very nice transitions between FLO/programs, much like the iPhone zoom effect.
Same trick is applied on the HD to make it 'feel' more slick and responsive.
Anyway, if you look at the French video on YouTube you will catch a glimpse of many of the tabs, including the home tab. It shows exactly the same stuff as on the Diamond, except I am guessing it will show more upcoming calendar events in the bottom.

You have a choice between TouchFlo3D or the normal Windows Mobile that you used to.
What you have on it will depend what Apps you like, its like your old PDA / PDA Phone. In other words, almost anything.

If you are just talking about the homescreen itself, than you get to see the same thing like on the touch diamond but when you scroll down, the list will be much longer so you can see more appointments. which is a good thing
oh and in the case you didn't know:
there is also a new "customize tabs: rearrange and remove tabs" setting !!
can be seeN here:
http://vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435&hd=1
at around 2:11

More Today screens as panel?

Is it possible get that more those standard today screen as panel?
Cos I would like to have FEWidgets & iFronz etc. as panels and still have that normal today screen.
Any ideas?

That is a nice idea...!

2 today screens
The closest iv seen to solving this is to use a program called mtoday, see thread - Best Apps for the x1.
You can create 2 today screens with different plugins, run program, set profile 1 and save, then create shortcut, do the same for profile 2. In the programs menu you then find links to launch your 2 today screens. I have pocket plus 4 and touch 3d. Why use panel spaces switching this way is easier and faster.
Posted from my X1

Hi,
I think axjiii is searching a programme or a option to create a panel for a specific programme, for expamle a panel which launches iFonz or other programmes. I was also looking for such an programme with which I could create several panels for i.e. skype, TV, iFonz, etc.
BTW, is iFonz working on the X1? As I'm still waiting for my X1 I couldn't test it yet.

Well, maybe the TF3D panel launcher could be tweaked to launch FEWidgets and iFonz.

No iFonz panel as at yet, right?

ipporek said:
No iFonz panel as at yet, right?
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Maybe you should try downloading the SDK panel editing package from Sony and dissect the "TF3D as a panel" cab: it just "runs" TF3D
There's also a "youtube" panel but it makes the same simple thing: when pressed, it runs the youtube app and turns "today" screen to blank
You could try to build a panel that runs your desired app

I'd also love such a feature. I have got the panels installed already (not using them though) and to me they very much seem to be something like multiple today screens. It would be nice to just keep the existing panels and the normal today screen and to be able to define another panel (or many more) for which you can define a different today screen with different plugins etc.
What would be very important from my perspective is the impact on resources, both memory and CPU. It would be good not having all today plugins running at all time, even when they are not visible, because many today plugins affect performance a lot from what I experienced. Also the time when switching the home screen via the panels shouldn't take too long, so, initializing the today plugins completely whenever switching today screens/panels would take too long in my point of view. Still, today plugins which run in the background need to get specific messages, e.g. GPRS monitor for still counting the data.
What I would love to have with such a solution would be to be able to switch panels/today screens by switching profiles, i.e. switching panels via commandline.

gtrab said:
Maybe you should try downloading the SDK panel editing package from Sony and dissect the "TF3D as a panel" cab: it just "runs" TF3D
There's also a "youtube" panel but it makes the same simple thing: when pressed, it runs the youtube app and turns "today" screen to blank
You could try to build a panel that runs your desired app
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Looks quite simple for everyone who has Microsoft Visual Studio.
Unfortunately I don’t have MSVS, but I someone create a panel that simply call some app stored in registry (or panel1 for app1, panel2 for app2 and so on), it will be great! In combination with mToday or SecondToday it will allow for anyone to have multiple Today Screens.
I’m personally prefer to have on main Today Screen SPB Dairy and SPB Phone Suite (organiser) while on second Today a lot of shortcuts to useful apps and tools (pocket pc).