Hi Folks,
i´ve just ordered my Touch HD, and i hope it will come to me before Santa (end of November i guess).
My question is: what can be seen on the homescreen of the HD? Today i use my good old friend, the wizard100. On the Todayscreen i have full Battery and Storage information, Weatherforecast for 4 Days, and calendar appointments showing up to 3 days. Also a today-link for tomtom. Is TF3D able to show this too? I need to see all these things on just one quick view. How customizable is TF3D?
Of coz u can.
Just install the softwares.
Which softwares in particular are you referring to?
My question was how many things is TF3D able to do without any external software. On my Wizard 100 i´ve installed following software: SPB Weather, SBSH Phoneweaver, SPB Time, Calendar+ , DeviceLock, Battrey Status nad TomTom. Except Tomtom i hope that TF3D could show me things like weather,Appointments and other things without installing other software. I like to use the HTC Homescreen, but i dont know how many information it is able to show?
Afaik it has the same home screen as the Diamond but probably with a little more info because of the added screen height. The diamond home screen shows clock, missed call status and first next calendar item.
And this is what i wanted to know: Do you think the HD would show more informations than the normal TF3D from f.e. the Diamond? This must be an complete different TF3D, or not?
It's not completely different, it is in fact rather similar. It has the same tabs bar the stock tab, and most tabs just show a little more info to complement to extra screen height. Also, it has very nice transitions between FLO/programs, much like the iPhone zoom effect.
Same trick is applied on the HD to make it 'feel' more slick and responsive.
Anyway, if you look at the French video on YouTube you will catch a glimpse of many of the tabs, including the home tab. It shows exactly the same stuff as on the Diamond, except I am guessing it will show more upcoming calendar events in the bottom.
You have a choice between TouchFlo3D or the normal Windows Mobile that you used to.
What you have on it will depend what Apps you like, its like your old PDA / PDA Phone. In other words, almost anything.
If you are just talking about the homescreen itself, than you get to see the same thing like on the touch diamond but when you scroll down, the list will be much longer so you can see more appointments. which is a good thing
oh and in the case you didn't know:
there is also a new "customize tabs: rearrange and remove tabs" setting !!
can be seeN here:
http://vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435&hd=1
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Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.
No one that can help me out?
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.
SeanFromSoCal said:
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
SeanFromSoCal said:
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
SeanFromSoCal said:
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Focaldesign said:
Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
SeanFromSoCal said:
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.
Hi, I wonder how many TF3D alternatives there are. I've been playing with Bell UI (nice but not so useful...), Point UI (too bad latest versions aren't compatible with VGA devices, looks very promising!), SPB Mobile (probably the best one, simple, effective, with a Black Today page Classic which suits the Diamond just perfect and has a lovely big analog clock, big weather indications, big net signal strenght & battery icons, missed calls, mails and sms, and all in one page! ) and WisBar Advance Desktop (which also is nice but just slightly better than Bell UI).
Here, I'm asking you if I'm missing something, or what do you think about the mentioned above UI. Did anybody drop the TF3D for another UI?
SPB pocket plus is great as an enhancement for the standard Windows Mobile Today screen.
You can create up to 6 tabs, each holding a combination of Today plugins, shortcuts and photo-contacts. When the tabs are set to auto-hide, you effectively have an extra page that appears when you minimize a window or press the Home key.
I have mine configured so that my homepage shows just a task manager and controls for Pocket Player. See my signature for screenshots...
Is it possible get that more those standard today screen as panel?
Cos I would like to have FEWidgets & iFronz etc. as panels and still have that normal today screen.
Any ideas?
That is a nice idea...!
2 today screens
The closest iv seen to solving this is to use a program called mtoday, see thread - Best Apps for the x1.
You can create 2 today screens with different plugins, run program, set profile 1 and save, then create shortcut, do the same for profile 2. In the programs menu you then find links to launch your 2 today screens. I have pocket plus 4 and touch 3d. Why use panel spaces switching this way is easier and faster.
Posted from my X1
Hi,
I think axjiii is searching a programme or a option to create a panel for a specific programme, for expamle a panel which launches iFonz or other programmes. I was also looking for such an programme with which I could create several panels for i.e. skype, TV, iFonz, etc.
BTW, is iFonz working on the X1? As I'm still waiting for my X1 I couldn't test it yet.
Well, maybe the TF3D panel launcher could be tweaked to launch FEWidgets and iFonz.
No iFonz panel as at yet, right?
ipporek said:
No iFonz panel as at yet, right?
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Maybe you should try downloading the SDK panel editing package from Sony and dissect the "TF3D as a panel" cab: it just "runs" TF3D
There's also a "youtube" panel but it makes the same simple thing: when pressed, it runs the youtube app and turns "today" screen to blank
You could try to build a panel that runs your desired app
I'd also love such a feature. I have got the panels installed already (not using them though) and to me they very much seem to be something like multiple today screens. It would be nice to just keep the existing panels and the normal today screen and to be able to define another panel (or many more) for which you can define a different today screen with different plugins etc.
What would be very important from my perspective is the impact on resources, both memory and CPU. It would be good not having all today plugins running at all time, even when they are not visible, because many today plugins affect performance a lot from what I experienced. Also the time when switching the home screen via the panels shouldn't take too long, so, initializing the today plugins completely whenever switching today screens/panels would take too long in my point of view. Still, today plugins which run in the background need to get specific messages, e.g. GPRS monitor for still counting the data.
What I would love to have with such a solution would be to be able to switch panels/today screens by switching profiles, i.e. switching panels via commandline.
gtrab said:
Maybe you should try downloading the SDK panel editing package from Sony and dissect the "TF3D as a panel" cab: it just "runs" TF3D
There's also a "youtube" panel but it makes the same simple thing: when pressed, it runs the youtube app and turns "today" screen to blank
You could try to build a panel that runs your desired app
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Looks quite simple for everyone who has Microsoft Visual Studio.
Unfortunately I don’t have MSVS, but I someone create a panel that simply call some app stored in registry (or panel1 for app1, panel2 for app2 and so on), it will be great! In combination with mToday or SecondToday it will allow for anyone to have multiple Today Screens.
I’m personally prefer to have on main Today Screen SPB Dairy and SPB Phone Suite (organiser) while on second Today a lot of shortcuts to useful apps and tools (pocket pc).
So I tried to stick with TF3D for as long as I can but I dislike a) how slow it is b) the number of steps required to achieve simple things, thus hindering productivity a lot.
I came from the HTC Touch (elfin) and I loved the regular HTC Home with the big clock, and the 5ish tabs. It allowed you to see the time, play music, see the whether, overview of messages, change backlight settings, rotate screen from that small widget. As well it still had room below to add your own today plugins! Not only that, it looked relatively nice. Simple but effective and elegant.
TF3D I feel is just all "prettiness" and I just really dislike the effort it takes to do simple things.
So now I'm on a man hunt to find the perfect today plugin for my uses. I tried installing the HTC Home plugin but the widget looks all distorted on my HD. So I was wondering if someone could make suggestions on some good today plugins that I may find as good as the HTC home one on my elfin.
I've taken a look at the likes of SPB mobile and WAD but I'm not really in the idea of an entire today replacement, more like useful plugins for the today screen... but by all means if you have a great suggestion for a today replacement I'm open to all and to testing them out and seeing which is most suitable for me.
Thanks a lot!
Ultimatelaunch. Takes some time to configure, but then I think it's perfect.
You can make it look like HTC home, for example. Or you can just implement a bunch of different today plugins like weather, calendar, RSS etc. together with program icons on several pages.
You can do about anything with HomeScreen++ (Battery Status)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350510
Hmm I'll take a look at Ultimate Launch seems promising... I have Homescreen++ installed but never knew it had that much function... I'll have to look more into that then. Keep the suggestions coming! Thanks
before tf2d came out for the polaris i used to have, i used a custom batterystatus screen. i tried ultimatelaunch, but just as soon as i would get it all configured, it would start causing problems, and i finally had to remove it i tried a couple of different versions, but they all came crashing down for me if i wanted anything very complex... i hope it works better for you...
you might also try spb mobile shell 2...
SPB Mobile Shell is a very polished retail UI. The only problem with it is that WVGA is fairly new so people haven't developed any/many nice themes for it yet.
Two UIs that I'm keeping my eyes on, that are still in development but can be used to some degree, are Today Life (post here) and FEWidgets (post here). If those two were combined I bet there could be some amazing themes for our Touch HDs. All they need is for more of our awesome developers to look away from TF3D/Manila/Etc for a minute and check them out.
They use XML and Flash, so just imagine having custom backgrounds and custom shaped buttons that'll load anything you want. So someone could take, for instance, a picture of an airplane cockpit and make buttons that look like the switches or dials. Or a bookshelf where you click on the books. Or... Ideally you would want the buttons to be shaped and colored to blend in perfectly with the background. Just imagine what could be done!
I used to use SBSH PocketBreeze as the main today screen and add vertical Tabs.
But, I've been seduced by TF3D and its shallow prettiness !!
However, I do have SecondToday running very well and up pops SBSH with its loads of Tabs.
I am looking to buy the TD2 in the next 3 weeks and have a question regarding the touch flo interface
Can you display your upcoming/overdue todo's on the front screen as well as appointments?
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MarJon
Yes you can if you don't use TF3D. In the normal today screen, you can install a plugin called TodayAgenda (google for it) and that allows you to display and edit your Todo list. It's fantastic!
Unfortunately TF3D is not customizable except to remove or reorder its tabs. It does not work with Today screen plugins.
Thanks Jim
I knew I could display them without TF3D as I currently have PocketBreeze on my today screen of my current phone but really like the TF3D interface so I dont have to keep pulling out the stylus to do day to day stuff with the phone.
Are the ToDo's viewable from any of the tabs?
Jim Coleman said:
Unfortunately TF3D is not customizable except to remove or reorder its tabs.
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Please tell me how can you reorder the tabs.
I've been looking for this option and I haven't found anything yet.
Searching in this forum revealed only an old application for the "old" Diamond and old Manila.
Go to Settings, and click on Customize Tabs.
You can then untick ones you do not want to appear, and drag others into the order you want.
Thank you!
I've already solved this problem.
When you go to "Customize Tabs" there is a text on top of the page: "Drag Items to rearrange".
I must be blind but I didn't see that. The text is as big as my head but I didn't see it.
Dummy me …
That's what's happening when the interface is too user friendly
but... the items on the agenda do show up on the today screen.. I have a TD2 with TESS essentials ROM (WM 6.1 Manila 2.1), and the items that I have on my calendar do show up on the today screen as one line indicators.. but only when it's the day they are due...