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The homescreen I'd like

Hi,
after trying ver much today plugins etc, I finally found what I really want and need. I made a rough sketch of my idea, mybe someone could give me a hint, how to realize that?
Basically I just need to see date/time in the top bar (I think there's some registry setting for that?), a weather plugin, and a calender preview (like today agenda) and a launcher, where I can switch between calendar and launcher. I know this should be possible, just not exactly how. Pocket Breeze for example is too overloaded with iLauncher integrated, and I don't need a separate tab for tasks for example. On the other hand, the touch homescreens weather plugin never updates it's view, it always shows the weather from the last sync, not the current one. Without data flatrate and a resulting occasional USB update, I never have the current weather shown

As you say I think there's a reg setting for the time + date in the title bar. (I think I've seen the option in Tweak2K2.NET.)
You can remove the Day + Date + time today item using the Settings -> Today configuration.
For weather I use SpbWeather, which can show 4 days of weather across a 240px wide screen.
Edit: Additionally I use ScaryBear QuickTasks for the tasks list.
That should cover some of what you want. For meetings you may be able to achieve using the standard today plugin anyhow.

the builtin calender plugin show not enough upcoming meetings, but I can use TodayAgenda for that, which also shows tasks. Only thing I don't like with TodayAgenda, it doesn't use category colors...
For weather weatherpanel could be nice, seen that in a thread below this one. Biggest problem with most weather plugins is the inflexibility with updates, what I need is "update only on activeSync".
What I couldn't find so far is a tabbed interface, that integrates a Launcher and the TodayAgenda, with a large button to switch between views (don't want a stylus on today screen)
Edit: hm, I have the correct registry value for date/time in the taskbar:
To show both the date and the clock:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TBOpt = 1 (DWORD decimal)
but it doesn't show. When I leave the homescreen, I see the clock, on the homescreen itself nothing. I have HTC taskmanager installed, which I like, maybe it prevents that? Also the HTC touch homescreen is installed, which shows the time, but I don't like it, so I disabled the today plugin, but maybe it diesabled the clock?

for weather you can try to the free program of weather-to-go (you can set it to update only on activesync)
http://tonaya.com/products/wtg/index.php
for meetings and tasks, I do like todayagenda. i believe there are some color options that are in the program (I haven't personally used).
for the launcher (without the use of a stylus) you can use claunch and have it set to large icons in the options. if you want it specifically integrated into one section with the calendar, i don't know of a launcher that's integrated into the calendar except for loaded programs from spb or sbsh.
there was a program that showed the date as small text underneath the time. found it...it was pbar. it's also a useful task manager (better than vbar). also free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284952
for the new on the bottom left softkey, you can look for and install wmnewmenu and map it to the left key (i forget if it's an option in the program. if not, you can look for the softkey mapper...think it's by dotfred) and map it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=42438&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1182953184
pocketage + today agenda.

monkey_knight said:
for the new on the bottom left softkey, you can look for and install wmnewmenu and map it to the left key (i forget if it's an option in the program. if not, you can look for the softkey mapper...think it's by dotfred) and map it.
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You can pick it up here.

nothin said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=42438&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1182953184
pocketage + today agenda.
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I searched a bit on pocketage, there seems to be no homepage or anything...
The "new" menu I have already running...
I don't need a calendar with integrated launcher, I just need a 2-tabbed interface with acalendar preview and a launcher... this can be one, two or three separate tools if need be...

TauTau said:
I searched a bit on pocketage, there seems to be no homepage or anything...
The "new" menu I have already running...
I don't need a calendar with integrated launcher, I just need a 2-tabbed interface with acalendar preview and a launcher... this can be one, two or three separate tools if need be...
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ok, i will provide link later..

oh, damn proxy here didn't update the main page, so i missed your reply here

TauTau said:
I don't need a calendar with integrated launcher, I just need a 2-tabbed interface with acalendar preview and a launcher... this can be one, two or three separate tools if need be...
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for a two-tabbed launcher, claunch should be able to work. it defaults with 8 tabs, but you can set in options to only have 2 tabs and rename them as you see fit.

Check SPB Mobile Shell
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/screenshots/102.png

monkey_knight said:
for a two-tabbed launcher, claunch should be able to work. it defaults with 8 tabs, but you can set in options to only have 2 tabs and rename them as you see fit.
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I need to have the calendar preview in one tab, so it's not actually a 2-tabbed launcher, but more a tabbed interface for two today plugins...

TauTau said:
I need to have the calendar preview in one tab, so it's not actually a 2-tabbed launcher, but more a tabbed interface for two today plugins...
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hmm...that's gonna be tricky. i don't recall seeing any free software that does that. i do know that spb and sbsh have a today plugin that will integrate the calendar into a tab. i think one of them also the ability to add other third party today plugins in their their tabs as well (based on past experience when i tried this software, but i can't reconfirm from my current access due to stupid websense in the network)

SPB Mobile Shell looks nice so far, just have to get a bit into it's customizability. Only checked the old version, but with the new one and it's Professional Now screen, it looks quite good...

nothin said:
ok, i will provide link later..
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or not?

Anyone with programing skills willing to help?

Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.

No one that can help me out?

You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.

SeanFromSoCal said:
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
SeanFromSoCal said:
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
SeanFromSoCal said:
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
SeanFromSoCal said:
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.

Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Focaldesign said:
Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Focaldesign said:
Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise

SeanFromSoCal said:
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.

What can be shown on Homescreen of the HD?

Hi Folks,
i´ve just ordered my Touch HD, and i hope it will come to me before Santa (end of November i guess).
My question is: what can be seen on the homescreen of the HD? Today i use my good old friend, the wizard100. On the Todayscreen i have full Battery and Storage information, Weatherforecast for 4 Days, and calendar appointments showing up to 3 days. Also a today-link for tomtom. Is TF3D able to show this too? I need to see all these things on just one quick view. How customizable is TF3D?

Of coz u can.
Just install the softwares.

Which softwares in particular are you referring to?

My question was how many things is TF3D able to do without any external software. On my Wizard 100 i´ve installed following software: SPB Weather, SBSH Phoneweaver, SPB Time, Calendar+ , DeviceLock, Battrey Status nad TomTom. Except Tomtom i hope that TF3D could show me things like weather,Appointments and other things without installing other software. I like to use the HTC Homescreen, but i dont know how many information it is able to show?

Afaik it has the same home screen as the Diamond but probably with a little more info because of the added screen height. The diamond home screen shows clock, missed call status and first next calendar item.

And this is what i wanted to know: Do you think the HD would show more informations than the normal TF3D from f.e. the Diamond? This must be an complete different TF3D, or not?

It's not completely different, it is in fact rather similar. It has the same tabs bar the stock tab, and most tabs just show a little more info to complement to extra screen height. Also, it has very nice transitions between FLO/programs, much like the iPhone zoom effect.
Same trick is applied on the HD to make it 'feel' more slick and responsive.
Anyway, if you look at the French video on YouTube you will catch a glimpse of many of the tabs, including the home tab. It shows exactly the same stuff as on the Diamond, except I am guessing it will show more upcoming calendar events in the bottom.

You have a choice between TouchFlo3D or the normal Windows Mobile that you used to.
What you have on it will depend what Apps you like, its like your old PDA / PDA Phone. In other words, almost anything.

If you are just talking about the homescreen itself, than you get to see the same thing like on the touch diamond but when you scroll down, the list will be much longer so you can see more appointments. which is a good thing
oh and in the case you didn't know:
there is also a new "customize tabs: rearrange and remove tabs" setting !!
can be seeN here:
http://vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435&hd=1
at around 2:11

[Suggestions] - One Today plugin to rule them all....

So I tried to stick with TF3D for as long as I can but I dislike a) how slow it is b) the number of steps required to achieve simple things, thus hindering productivity a lot.
I came from the HTC Touch (elfin) and I loved the regular HTC Home with the big clock, and the 5ish tabs. It allowed you to see the time, play music, see the whether, overview of messages, change backlight settings, rotate screen from that small widget. As well it still had room below to add your own today plugins! Not only that, it looked relatively nice. Simple but effective and elegant.
TF3D I feel is just all "prettiness" and I just really dislike the effort it takes to do simple things.
So now I'm on a man hunt to find the perfect today plugin for my uses. I tried installing the HTC Home plugin but the widget looks all distorted on my HD. So I was wondering if someone could make suggestions on some good today plugins that I may find as good as the HTC home one on my elfin.
I've taken a look at the likes of SPB mobile and WAD but I'm not really in the idea of an entire today replacement, more like useful plugins for the today screen... but by all means if you have a great suggestion for a today replacement I'm open to all and to testing them out and seeing which is most suitable for me.
Thanks a lot!

Ultimatelaunch. Takes some time to configure, but then I think it's perfect.
You can make it look like HTC home, for example. Or you can just implement a bunch of different today plugins like weather, calendar, RSS etc. together with program icons on several pages.

You can do about anything with HomeScreen++ (Battery Status)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350510

Hmm I'll take a look at Ultimate Launch seems promising... I have Homescreen++ installed but never knew it had that much function... I'll have to look more into that then. Keep the suggestions coming! Thanks

before tf2d came out for the polaris i used to have, i used a custom batterystatus screen. i tried ultimatelaunch, but just as soon as i would get it all configured, it would start causing problems, and i finally had to remove it i tried a couple of different versions, but they all came crashing down for me if i wanted anything very complex... i hope it works better for you...
you might also try spb mobile shell 2...

SPB Mobile Shell is a very polished retail UI. The only problem with it is that WVGA is fairly new so people haven't developed any/many nice themes for it yet.
Two UIs that I'm keeping my eyes on, that are still in development but can be used to some degree, are Today Life (post here) and FEWidgets (post here). If those two were combined I bet there could be some amazing themes for our Touch HDs. All they need is for more of our awesome developers to look away from TF3D/Manila/Etc for a minute and check them out.
They use XML and Flash, so just imagine having custom backgrounds and custom shaped buttons that'll load anything you want. So someone could take, for instance, a picture of an airplane cockpit and make buttons that look like the switches or dials. Or a bookshelf where you click on the books. Or... Ideally you would want the buttons to be shaped and colored to blend in perfectly with the background. Just imagine what could be done!

I used to use SBSH PocketBreeze as the main today screen and add vertical Tabs.
But, I've been seduced by TF3D and its shallow prettiness !!
However, I do have SecondToday running very well and up pops SBSH with its loads of Tabs.

Porting the Facebook Panel as an Application?

Has anyone managed to tweak some coding to create an application that allows the Facebook panel to be loaded from the Programs menu opposed to using the panels....(Like Pubba's Panel Installer for MXE and Radio)
If Pubba can port to panels as applications,
And if TF3D can be run as a panel rather than a 'Today' option....
Surely it must be possible? Or does the fact it use internet and such make it a bit complicated?

Anyone?
I would try and edit the Pubba launcher panels, but I have absolutely no coding experience...

that would be nice

It would, I like the panels, the problem is you can't really multitask with them, the idea that you can change your today screen is awesome but I'd rather have Facebook as an application that can be launched rather than change my entire screen.
As I said earlier, if pubba can launch the media panels, is it possible to edit his code to launch the Facebook panel instead? I have no idea how to code or even which program was used to code this...
Surely, it can't be such a big job?

Come on, can I atleast get a decent reply?

try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3080511&postcount=666