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ringtone programs...

Hi,
I just wanted to have some special ringtones for some contacts or groups...
But so far, I wasn't lucky:
Caller-ID: slow, often didn't show the correct number, lots of compatibilty troubles
RingtoneX: slowed down my device even more than Caller-ID. And it doesn't recognize the ringtone directory, which I moved to \Storage\Rings. If I set the ringtone folder in RingtoneX to this path, it copies the used files to \Windows\Rings - which is slow, useless, and clutters my valuable main memory.
PhonExt: didn't work at all. I could set the ringtones just fine, but they're not used if a call comes in. And it only supports WAV.
Is there any other program I could try? Or are there ways to work around the named troubles?
Bye,
Mirko

Yeah I've been lloking for a good ringtone app as well. Finally stuck with IA CallerID for the same issues you mentioned. Haven't been experiencing a lot of trouble with it though, my tones are also in \Storage\Rings and I have small animated GIFS for groups. Also I only setup the people who ring me the most not all 400+ contacts.

You're not alone. I had hunt and found that IA is the only one that works(buggy).
The caller ID program is lacking somewhat important features such as assigning ringtones by category.

Can you try whether this works for you?
I simply modifiy the registry entry for the ringtone when a call comes in.
Surprisingly this worked for me - I'd have expected the system's call popup to read this entry before I get control...
Nontheless, I'd like to know if I'm just lucky, or if it works generally...
The program interface is a mixture of PhoneExt and RingtoneX.
Like PhoneExt, it must be running to work (i.e. put a link in autostart folder if you want it permanent), there are category ringtones with priorities, and there's a tray icon with popup menu.
Like RingtoneX, you can set ringtones for both groups and contacts.
Currently, the contacts are only read at program launch, so you have to restart it to recognize modifications to the contacts.
In the contacts list, the used catecory ringtone is shown, if no contact ringtone is set. You can tell whether it's a contact ringtone by the "X" (remove) button - it's inactive if the ringtone's received from the categories.
There might be problems with huge contact databases, since I create a number -> ringtone map for performance reasons (searching the number in the contact database would be far too slow, esp. since numbers can appear in different variations, which I unify...).
Another thing to notice: I list all files in the ringtone folder - no matter if they're valid ringtones or not.
Oops: Last not least: The installation. Just copy the contained file somewhere on your PPC and execute it there. You should create a new folder for it, since contacts.dat and categories.dat will be created in the directory where the program file is located.
btw: Except for the modified ringtone entry, there are no modifications to the system, i.e. after exiting the program, all will be like it was before...

Hi !
I've made an app to display picture of contacts to dial, and I'm interested in how you get the incoming call notification (I'd like to make my own calledID). So I you can share source or point me some sites where to find info, ...
I hope my app will be available soon.
Regards,
Olivier.

has anybody tried Mort's application?

Another try...
I'm using lineSetAppPriority now, which should ensure my tools can set the ringtone before the default popup appears. Sadly, on my device it's completely ignored. But maybe it works on other devices - or has somebody here experience with lineSetAppPriority?
If you copy the included mortsms.dll to the \Windows directory, customized SMS signals should work, too.
Programmers: If you create a registry key with <window title>=<window handle> (as DWord) in HKLM\Software\Mort\SMSNotify\Windows, you'll receive a WM_COPYDATA with a string containing "SMS\n<sender>\n<text>" whenever an SMS comes in...

Mort
I've installed MortRing 0.2 on my device (haven't set ringtones yet) it uses CallerID Picture and MortRing ringtone so it works!!! Now I have to find a way to uninstall CallerID without a hard reset. Thanks.

The sms function is not working on my mda compact

sebi112 said:
The sms function is not working on my mda compact
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Er, right...
To active the mortsms.dll, you either have to do the following:
1. Show "Messaging" and close it again (real close, i.e. Storage - Running programs or any "Close button replacement" like PocketPlus).
2. Copy mortsms.dll to \Windows
3. (Re)start MortRing
Or put the DLL in the \Windows directory, do a soft reset, and launch MortRing...

Mort, your program really rocks! Thanks alot dude 8)
but one thing: when i get a missed call, it says 2 missed calls (one with the number, and the other with UNKNOWN number)!!
otherwise, everyting is COoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoL :lol: thanks

Does even not work. ringtones ok. sms does not work

Here's a version with installer, maybe it fixes the SMS problem (I think the DLL doesn't get registered correctly without installer...). Restarting "Messaging" or a soft reset might still be necessary after installation, though...
It also creates a Startup entry.
@ezzkht: That might be a follow-up error from the lineSetAppPriority problems. I forward the call informations to the next priority program (usually Windows' call popup). If the priority is ignored, I do that after it already got it... But I've got no idea why the number gets lost...

Here's a variation without lineSetAppPriority. Maybe it helps with the "unknown" entry in the call history...

Ringtones works, sms works Thanks, Mort!

Here's a minor update. On some devices, the mortsms.dll did not work. It seems like ole32.dll isn't preinstalled on all devices, but I was able not to require it anymore...
Currently, lineSetAppPriority is removed completely, as it doesn't seem to have any positive effects. Sadly, due to this, it doesn't work everywhere - at least I know of one user with an MDA II and a quite a lot of contacts (about 500), where it doesn't work. I don't know whether it's because of the amount of contacts or the device differences.
(SMS notifications should work everywhere, though)

after a test it plays the sms ringtone that i selecet for one adressentrybut after a while the standat sms tone is gone and for all incomming sms the selecet for the entry is played

cooooooooool, now it works well 8)
thanks Mort :wink:

Now the SMS tone is reset a second after the notifacation and on program exist, so the default tone won't be overridden with the recently used.
Additionally, there are three pseudo categories: *other contacts*, *not in contacts*, and *number supressed*.

Mort!!!! would like to thank you again for this application works very well on my imate JAM! I'm really happy with it!!! Now I have more RAM to play with as Caller ID has been removed! Woooohoooo! Respect! :lol:

Bigger Caller ID photos?

Does anyone know how to make the picture of contact bigger in caller ID?

PHOTO CONTACTS PRO,
Photo Contacts or
Caller2Picture

kelu said:
PHOTO CONTACTS PRO,
Photo Contacts or
Caller2Picture
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Hi,
Contacts Pro looks nice, does someone know how to assign this app to act like my default phone program ? Where can you set this ?
thanks,

They all (and Caller ID) suck! There's no good caller id software for pocket pc phone edition.

NO REGEDIT WORK AROUND?
OTHER WISE THE I-MADE CALLED ID WAS BETTER THE ALL OTHER PROGRAMS MENTIONED.
BUT I AM NOT INTERESTED INSTALLING NEW APS FOR IT! THE WM5 SYNCS WITH OUTLOOK.
THANK YOU

Photo Contacts Pro V4 works well. It's Compatible with WM5 and you can also assign different ring tones and phone profiles.

ßeta said:
Photo Contacts Pro V4 works well. It's Compatible with WM5 and you can also assign different ring tones and phone profiles.
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I bought it and I really regret it. It does not work when you are using the password option in WM5 and that really sucks becasue who is willing to use his valuable Pocket PC without at least a password protection ?

Whats a god way about going about per contact ringtones?

I'm searching now, but phoneext has been the only thing I found, and I never really liked it since it took over a lot of the functions of the phone.

mortring
mortring www.sto-helit.de
Works for SMS messages also. The author mentions it can't handle large contact databases. He doesn't give a specific number but it works fine with my contact list 600+ contacts. Also allows you to assign tones by contact category (my main use since this is far easier than individual tones). BTW you should realize that in your contacts edit view you can assign a ringtone to the contact along with their photo.
- Richard

haha, dang, I didn't realize that was there in the per contact edit.
Thanks!

I used Photo Contacts PRO (Pocket PC Edition) by PocketX Software Inc.
Editing the contacts info seems to be bugged as far as updating phone numbers and other info. At least on my phone. However everything else on it works great. You can select a different ring tone for each contact. Also allows you to set default ringtone for users not in your contact list. Also has a better appointment interface and several other goodies. I highly recommend.

You can do this without the need for third-party apps... right from within your Contacts applet. Just edit the contact and assign a ring tone to him/her from the available drop down.

Managing Ringtones

Hi there,
Since the arrival of my Rhodium yesterday I´m looking for a new way of managing ringtones.
With my Kaiser, I use Inesoft´s Phone 4, which enables me to assign any ringtone to any category. Since WIndows Mobile syncs categories with Outlook, managing contacts into categories and assigning them ringtones used to be so easy. Problem is, Phone 4 only works if the caller ID function si ENABLED, and I don´t want to use it with Rhodium.
Soooo... what apps around there you guys are using to manage and assign ringtones to categories ? Ringo ? Any other options ?
Thanks in advance...

So, if caller ID is not ENABLED, how would the software, or even phone itself know what number is calling you (to pick the right ringtone for the contact)?

sudsboy said:
So, if caller ID is not ENABLED, how would the software, or even phone itself know what number is calling you (to pick the right ringtone for the contact)?
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Well, I don´t see that as a problem, there are lots of apps that work in the background (eg. gyrator for example, ActiveSync, PhotoContacts Pro, etc.).

sudsboy said:
So, if caller ID is not ENABLED, how would the software, or even phone itself know what number is calling you (to pick the right ringtone for the contact)?
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How do you define Caller ID not Enabled? If your SIM card caller ID service is not enabled, then you will not get caller ID therefore no software can pick the correct ringtone.

err... which do you mean...
1. Caller ID application is not running
2. Caller ID not Enable (turn off reciving caller ID information from your TelCo)
3. Caller ID application is running in the background
???

I think he meant for caller id function in Inesoft to which it will override the photo id of the default Rhodium with Inesoft big photo id if you want to use the group/categories ringtone.
I use ringo mobile to enable the group/categories ringtone with good result and yet the default photo id screen of Rhodium is working perfectly.

Mr.P said:
I think he meant for caller id function in Inesoft to which it will override the photo id of the default Rhodium with Inesoft big photo id if you want to use the group/categories ringtone.
I use ringo mobile to enable the group/categories ringtone with good result and yet the default photo id screen of Rhodium is working perfectly.
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Is this free? Do you have a link?

doesn't seem to be free.
quick google return http://ringomo.com/windows.php

Setting different ringtone on people.

How is this possible on the tab ? I am trying to find out myself for quite some time now and i cant seem to find it.
I am on JM6

Go to file manager open any mp3 file via the default music player, click the menu key, it gives two options share and set as, when you go to set as it gives option to set as video call, voice call, specific user, etc etc.
sedde said:
How is this possible on the tab ? I am trying to find out myself for quite some time now and i cant seem to find it.
I am on JM6
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gseth said:
Go to file manager open any mp3 file via the default music player, click the menu key, it gives two options share and set as, when you go to set as it gives option to set as video call, voice call, specific user, etc etc.
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On mine that doesn't work, as the contact list showing after chosing "set as" is totally empty, thus search don't give any results (despite my samsung app contact list have 200+ entries sync with google contacts).
Is there a way to access the default contact list to ad phone numbers to show there? I wonder why the default contact list and the samsung app one aren't linked...

Just open it fromhe the music player it self dont run the music just from the music library long press then set as or download ring extender from the market

Nope. There is a bug on the tab about this. All my contacts were synchronized/imported from google contacts and facebook. They appear on the contact list. But none of them show on the last selection operation trying to assign a ringtone/mp3 to, search function does not help, empty list.
I added a test contact manually on the phone. This one shows up.
Contacts are not imported each time i boot the GT, but they are not stored on the phone list.
Am i missing something? Any way copying all contacts to phone?
I may try the app you mentioned to see if it works.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

App didnt work.
Found that on the contact list you can modify a contact entered manually and set a ringtone direcly there.
But on sync contacts (all of mine...) when i tap "modify" i get a "impossible to modify
SNS contacts on this phone"
annoying as i use a bt headset and different ringtones would have helped me to guess whos calling before picking up without taking the phone out.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

Can't even add ppl to groups...

Course, the preferred way this /should/ work is you set the mp3 YOU want as your theme tune, then when you call people, they hear your theme tune playing.
One of the voip apps should enable this! (with an option to turn it off of course when it's abused!).

solved
OK, just to let you know that after several attempts I finally found two solutions on my own.
First one consists in a light app, meant to "cut" quite precisely mp3 wavefiles located on your device to produce rigngtones: its name is "Ringdroid" from Ringdroifd team. The second one is the well known "Zedge", a pick & share ringtones app. Both allow setting a ringtone to every contact, even if it's a synchronized one thus not showing in the default phone adress book when trying to assign through basic music apps.
I tried and it worked.
These two apps are the only ones I fond working in purpose at the moment.
Shame this wasn't on stock feature.
Enjoy your tab