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ringtone programs...

Hi,
I just wanted to have some special ringtones for some contacts or groups...
But so far, I wasn't lucky:
Caller-ID: slow, often didn't show the correct number, lots of compatibilty troubles
RingtoneX: slowed down my device even more than Caller-ID. And it doesn't recognize the ringtone directory, which I moved to \Storage\Rings. If I set the ringtone folder in RingtoneX to this path, it copies the used files to \Windows\Rings - which is slow, useless, and clutters my valuable main memory.
PhonExt: didn't work at all. I could set the ringtones just fine, but they're not used if a call comes in. And it only supports WAV.
Is there any other program I could try? Or are there ways to work around the named troubles?
Bye,
Mirko

Yeah I've been lloking for a good ringtone app as well. Finally stuck with IA CallerID for the same issues you mentioned. Haven't been experiencing a lot of trouble with it though, my tones are also in \Storage\Rings and I have small animated GIFS for groups. Also I only setup the people who ring me the most not all 400+ contacts.

You're not alone. I had hunt and found that IA is the only one that works(buggy).
The caller ID program is lacking somewhat important features such as assigning ringtones by category.

Can you try whether this works for you?
I simply modifiy the registry entry for the ringtone when a call comes in.
Surprisingly this worked for me - I'd have expected the system's call popup to read this entry before I get control...
Nontheless, I'd like to know if I'm just lucky, or if it works generally...
The program interface is a mixture of PhoneExt and RingtoneX.
Like PhoneExt, it must be running to work (i.e. put a link in autostart folder if you want it permanent), there are category ringtones with priorities, and there's a tray icon with popup menu.
Like RingtoneX, you can set ringtones for both groups and contacts.
Currently, the contacts are only read at program launch, so you have to restart it to recognize modifications to the contacts.
In the contacts list, the used catecory ringtone is shown, if no contact ringtone is set. You can tell whether it's a contact ringtone by the "X" (remove) button - it's inactive if the ringtone's received from the categories.
There might be problems with huge contact databases, since I create a number -> ringtone map for performance reasons (searching the number in the contact database would be far too slow, esp. since numbers can appear in different variations, which I unify...).
Another thing to notice: I list all files in the ringtone folder - no matter if they're valid ringtones or not.
Oops: Last not least: The installation. Just copy the contained file somewhere on your PPC and execute it there. You should create a new folder for it, since contacts.dat and categories.dat will be created in the directory where the program file is located.
btw: Except for the modified ringtone entry, there are no modifications to the system, i.e. after exiting the program, all will be like it was before...

Hi !
I've made an app to display picture of contacts to dial, and I'm interested in how you get the incoming call notification (I'd like to make my own calledID). So I you can share source or point me some sites where to find info, ...
I hope my app will be available soon.
Regards,
Olivier.

has anybody tried Mort's application?

Another try...
I'm using lineSetAppPriority now, which should ensure my tools can set the ringtone before the default popup appears. Sadly, on my device it's completely ignored. But maybe it works on other devices - or has somebody here experience with lineSetAppPriority?
If you copy the included mortsms.dll to the \Windows directory, customized SMS signals should work, too.
Programmers: If you create a registry key with <window title>=<window handle> (as DWord) in HKLM\Software\Mort\SMSNotify\Windows, you'll receive a WM_COPYDATA with a string containing "SMS\n<sender>\n<text>" whenever an SMS comes in...

Mort
I've installed MortRing 0.2 on my device (haven't set ringtones yet) it uses CallerID Picture and MortRing ringtone so it works!!! Now I have to find a way to uninstall CallerID without a hard reset. Thanks.

The sms function is not working on my mda compact

sebi112 said:
The sms function is not working on my mda compact
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Er, right...
To active the mortsms.dll, you either have to do the following:
1. Show "Messaging" and close it again (real close, i.e. Storage - Running programs or any "Close button replacement" like PocketPlus).
2. Copy mortsms.dll to \Windows
3. (Re)start MortRing
Or put the DLL in the \Windows directory, do a soft reset, and launch MortRing...

Mort, your program really rocks! Thanks alot dude 8)
but one thing: when i get a missed call, it says 2 missed calls (one with the number, and the other with UNKNOWN number)!!
otherwise, everyting is COoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoL :lol: thanks

Does even not work. ringtones ok. sms does not work

Here's a version with installer, maybe it fixes the SMS problem (I think the DLL doesn't get registered correctly without installer...). Restarting "Messaging" or a soft reset might still be necessary after installation, though...
It also creates a Startup entry.
@ezzkht: That might be a follow-up error from the lineSetAppPriority problems. I forward the call informations to the next priority program (usually Windows' call popup). If the priority is ignored, I do that after it already got it... But I've got no idea why the number gets lost...

Here's a variation without lineSetAppPriority. Maybe it helps with the "unknown" entry in the call history...

Ringtones works, sms works Thanks, Mort!

Here's a minor update. On some devices, the mortsms.dll did not work. It seems like ole32.dll isn't preinstalled on all devices, but I was able not to require it anymore...
Currently, lineSetAppPriority is removed completely, as it doesn't seem to have any positive effects. Sadly, due to this, it doesn't work everywhere - at least I know of one user with an MDA II and a quite a lot of contacts (about 500), where it doesn't work. I don't know whether it's because of the amount of contacts or the device differences.
(SMS notifications should work everywhere, though)

after a test it plays the sms ringtone that i selecet for one adressentrybut after a while the standat sms tone is gone and for all incomming sms the selecet for the entry is played

cooooooooool, now it works well 8)
thanks Mort :wink:

Now the SMS tone is reset a second after the notifacation and on program exist, so the default tone won't be overridden with the recently used.
Additionally, there are three pseudo categories: *other contacts*, *not in contacts*, and *number supressed*.

Mort!!!! would like to thank you again for this application works very well on my imate JAM! I'm really happy with it!!! Now I have more RAM to play with as Caller ID has been removed! Woooohoooo! Respect! :lol:

Whats a god way about going about per contact ringtones?

I'm searching now, but phoneext has been the only thing I found, and I never really liked it since it took over a lot of the functions of the phone.

mortring
mortring www.sto-helit.de
Works for SMS messages also. The author mentions it can't handle large contact databases. He doesn't give a specific number but it works fine with my contact list 600+ contacts. Also allows you to assign tones by contact category (my main use since this is far easier than individual tones). BTW you should realize that in your contacts edit view you can assign a ringtone to the contact along with their photo.
- Richard

haha, dang, I didn't realize that was there in the per contact edit.
Thanks!

I used Photo Contacts PRO (Pocket PC Edition) by PocketX Software Inc.
Editing the contacts info seems to be bugged as far as updating phone numbers and other info. At least on my phone. However everything else on it works great. You can select a different ring tone for each contact. Also allows you to set default ringtone for users not in your contact list. Also has a better appointment interface and several other goodies. I highly recommend.

You can do this without the need for third-party apps... right from within your Contacts applet. Just edit the contact and assign a ring tone to him/her from the available drop down.

Ringtones for individual contacts?

With my G1 I could set a different ring for each contact within the edit contact field. But i cant seem to find how to do it on the vibrant. How help out there? Thanks.

robkonz said:
With my G1 I could set a different ring for each contact within the edit contact field. But i cant seem to find how to do it on the vibrant. How help out there? Thanks.
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Check it again pls. That option is right here in my phone.

1. Find the song you want to use for the ringtone in the music player.
2. Long press > Set as > Individual ringtone.
3. Select contact.
Step 3 is a little tricky since the contact needs to be stored on the phone (not on Google or FB, etc.) in order to work. So for me, the contact list was empty. I just clicked "Add Contact" and typed in the person's name and it automatically found the existing person in my Google contact list, stored it on the phone, and assigned the ringtone. However, everyone in my contacts is listed by "[FirstName] [LastName]" so it's really easy for me.

Using Ringdroid works, too.
The option is not there for Google contacts.
-bZj
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[Q] Contacts

Since the Contact app that comes with the Vibrant is nothing I want to use. Is there a way to get back one similar to the contact app on the G1 that syncs with just my google contacts?

Umm what's wrong with the default one? It's pretty awesome. If you just want to view google contacts then go to menu and go to display options
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^^ you clearly have not utilized contacts correctly. Tons of good stuff in Contacts. Did you check the sticky? I tried to point out a lot of the features and how to make things function better. I would start off by hitting menu > Display Options > and have only your google account sync (and check to only show contacts with phone #s).
In Contacts you can slide the pic left or right to call/text
You can press the letters running down the right side for a quick jump (much better than the old slide).
You can click on the pic for multiple ways to communicate with a contact....
so so so much better. Not sure how you could say your G1 was better, and I have a g1.

This is by far the best contact app that i've seen on any android phone.

I just got my phone today and when I txt someone it shows up as their phone number instead of their contact name. Any idea on how to change it?

^ is the person added as a contact, and is their # stored as a mobile?

Yes to both

I believe OP said the Touchwiz contact app is "nothing I want to use". Why do you all insist on trying to convince this person they are wrong. It's a matter of preference. I happen to agree with OP. In spite of a few nifty enhancements, I much prefer the G1 with it's AUTOMATIC and COMPLETE sync to the web. I don't want to have to go through all the levels of hell to sync Google contacts with phone contacts with SIM contacts just to assign a custom ringtone. So for those of us who prefer the stock Android contacts, either offer some constructive assistance or don't post. If OP had wanted to know why he/she should keep the TW contacts or the benefits of that app, I'm sure the question would have been asked that way.
So...anybody with an answer to the original question?

Agreed on the TW contacts. Really nice features, but the quirks are too aggravating to make it a serious contacts app.
It's indeed a personal preference.
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^ what quirks are there?

Zas wa posted above its not a matter of all the fancy pizzazz. I just need a basic contact manager that syncs properly and efficiently. The rest is pretty useless for me personally.
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s15274n said:
^ what quirks are there?
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The two biggies for me are...
1. Not being able to show groups from Goog contacts. I know about showing only those with phone numbers, but that's a kludge.
2. Not being able to assign custom ring tones unless the contact is stored on phone. On phone storage should be banished from an Android phone IMO.
It's not all bad. I like the linking, the swiping to call or text, and the favorites as grid view. But the 2 quirks are huge for me.

As wonderful as some of the options are in the new contact manager, I am absolutely dumbfounded at the lack of integration. Why does it grab everything, and not just my contacts? Why doesn't it automatically allow individual ringtones? Why can I not create groups from my google contacts that are not linked on the phone?
I use a contact manager to manage my contacts, and the fact that I have to manually do so much to make this thing work makes a poor excuse for a contact manager.
The program should:
1. Import and sync all contacts from all areas completely and efficiently.
2. Allow you to specify any additional syncing you require.
3. Bring in *only* your contacts and not your cached addresses.
4. Automatically give them phone level access and group access regardless of the source. *putting them in a group called google and not allowing me an easy method to move them is pointless*.
Bottom line the contact manager is a fail in my opinion. If someone can point me to how to accomplish the above without having to create a phone contact for every contact I have or hiding ones with out numbers (which only partially works). I will enjoy using the product and apologize.
I wonder happens when you factory reset your device, does it lose your phone contacts? If so that is an even bigger fail because it requires you to recreate them all. The fact that I have to go to a forum to figure this crap out, and possibly use third party software to back it up in case god forbid I need to a factory reset is just stupid in my opinion.

ytj87 said:
The two biggies for me are...
1. Not being able to show groups from Goog contacts. I know about showing only those with phone numbers, but that's a kludge.
2. Not being able to assign custom ring tones unless the contact is stored on phone. On phone storage should be banished from an Android phone IMO.
It's not all bad. I like the linking, the swiping to call or text, and the favorites as grid view. But the 2 quirks are huge for me.
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I couldn't say it better. The not being allowed to use custom ring tones for G-Mail contacts is ridiculous.
PS. is their a batch function to transfer all the G-Mail contacts to the phone, or do I have to manually do it one by one?

I have only been able to do it one by one. You make a phone contact with same name and ir autolinks. Bwst I been able to get.
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Propheous said:
I have only been able to do it one by one. You make a phone contact with same name and ir autolinks. Bwst I been able to get.
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There's an app in the market that does this.
Contacts to SD, or something.
-bZj

Anyone find a way to enable the old "send directly to voicemail" option on the new contacts? that's bugging me not having that.(sometimes you just don't want to hear from someone.)

Totally agreed on the SEND DIRECTLY TO VM and the fact that I can't sync my Google Contacts Groups on my phone. Serious Fail.
My question is, if I flash to the Cyanogen ROM for the Vibrant, will this functionality come back?

jamesd86 said:
Anyone find a way to enable the old "send directly to voicemail" option on the new contacts? that's bugging me not having that.(sometimes you just don't want to hear from someone.)
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It doesn't work ahead of time, but:
from your Call Log, long-press on the number > Add to reject list
This list is manageable somewhere in Settings, I forget where.
-bZj

down8 said:
It doesn't work ahead of time, but:
from your Call Log, long-press on the number > Add to reject list
This list is manageable somewhere in Settings, I forget where.
-bZj
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Does that make it so the person can leave a message? or does the reject make the call not go through, thus no voicemail? i ask because i really only use it to screen calls from work, but they have to be able to leave a message or i'll get in trouble.

[Q] Contact Ringtone Fail!

I just found out that in order to place a personal ringtone on a contact, that contact has to be a "phone" contact instead of a google, facebook, or other type.
Is there a way around this?
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Just create a duplicate contact in phone contacts and link them, then assign the ringtone to the phone one. I agree it is a pain though.
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Yep, this is my biggest complaint about the Fascinate. It seems I end up having to choose between multiple copies of peoples phone numbers on the contact or no custom ringtones. Can't seem to get some of my contacts to link up nicely and display numbers in the order I want. Hopefully Samsung fixes this soon or someone releases a ROM with better contact management.

I use Ringdroid as a workaround (and to create ringtones, of course). Open up the ringtone you want to assign in Ringdroid, move the slider to the desired length and then click save. It will allow you to assign the ringtone to a contact, including google contacts. Sloppy, but it works.

Thanks for all the help. Creating and linking didn't even cross my mind. I didn't think to use ringdroid because it doesn't work like that on my droid 1. I'll try them both.
I would even go a far to say that bing has something to do with this to cause us not to use google's services..... Just a thought
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gardndj said:
I use Ringdroid as a workaround (and to create ringtones, of course). Open up the ringtone you want to assign in Ringdroid, move the slider to the desired length and then click save. It will allow you to assign the ringtone to a contact, including google contacts. Sloppy, but it works.
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Thanks! You are right when you say "sloppy, but it works".

Its easier than you think
The solution to this is much easier than you think. You can assign one contact to multiple places. By default contacts are assigned to google, to assign a contact to the phone as well for assigning ringtones you do the following : Step 1: go to contacts, Step 2:Hit menu button, Step:3 hit the icon that says "more", step 4: select Export/Import and Export to SD card. step 5: Once the vfile is created you select Export/Import again except this time you select Import and instead of choosing google to store all of your contacts you choose Phone option. Now you have all the contacts saved both on the phone and the google account. =)

martian21 said:
It seems I end up having to choose between multiple copies of peoples phone numbers on the contact or no custom ringtones.
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Not strictly true. I've created contacts with nothing but a first name and a ringtone, but because I linked it with a Google contact, it played the ringtone when they called.
It makes sense, and I don't care that much that I have to do this. Google doesn't have a Ringtone field, although perhaps it should. Or they could use a workaround like using the "other information" field to store a path to the file, but then it's only a local path, and it wouldn't work across multiple devices with the same account.
I think they took a rather appropriate compromise, but it does mean more work for those with large numbers of individualized ringtones.

Agenthex said:
Not strictly true. I've created contacts with nothing but a first name and a ringtone, but because I linked it with a Google contact, it played the ringtone when they called.
It makes sense, and I don't care that much that I have to do this. Google doesn't have a Ringtone field, although perhaps it should. Or they could use a workaround like using the "other information" field to store a path to the file, but then it's only a local path, and it wouldn't work across multiple devices with the same account.
I think they took a rather appropriate compromise, but it does mean more work for those with large numbers of individualized ringtones.
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Dude read post #7 as I stated exactly what to do for this to work. =)

atraitees said:
I just found out that in order to place a personal ringtone on a contact, that contact has to be a "phone" contact instead of a google, facebook, or other type.
Is there a way around this?
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I use ringdroid to assign a contact a ringtone. Much better than export/import, which is IMHO not a solution as I hate frakkin clutter including duplicates, linked or not.
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