Ok, so now that I have the device to end all devices, I'd like to start donating a bit here and there for all the great, hard work many of you here are doing. My problem though is that I've never done that before.
My question is, how much is proper to donate? $1? $5? $10? What's a common amount to show your appreciation? I don't want to come off as a cheapskate, but then I also don't want to be giving away all my money if a few dollars here and there would suffice.
Thanks in advance for your input!
An application for sale usually avergaes for about $22. So if you felt it was a full blown app, donate that much. If it was a small utility app then$10.
For many of the people doing this stuff I think it's the acknowledgement that you recognise the work they've put in which is more important than the amount.
If you're a wealthy person then donate lots (EUR/$ 30). If you're poor then donate little (EUR/$ 5). Just by making a donation of any amount you'll be in the minority.
Be aware though: I've donated to several developers in the past who haven't acknowledged my contribution in any way. I find that disappointing and it discourages me from donating to them further. Donating is not always a satisfying process.
I think any DONATION is appreciated.
donation is always donation, if you like someones program really much then give him much. Some people ask just for cup of coffee or beer, so its up to you. No one will yell at you if you just give 2$.
Free money for them and they didnt even require it.
Ok, thanks for the tips everyone!
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Its 5 minutes after midnight here in UK, Jeffs kitchen is offline unfortunately. I suppose that shows how popular the kitchen and the XDA developers code has become. I thought it might be a good idea if there was a way of making donations to enable the guys (and gals)? to purchase new kit and the odd bottle of beer and bagels. I for one would be happy to donate, on the basis that if a friend helps with the gardening or whatever, it is common courtesy to offer refreshments.
I had thought about posting a "pass the hat" suggestion, guess I'm too late. Certainly it was a valuable service, as this is.
Yeah guys, someone setup a PayPal account the very least we "users" in the communitiy can do it give you a little bit of beer money.
Thanks for all your hard work.
I am overwhelmed by the offers of donations :roll: could one of the developers please post a paypal account or similar please, if possible, so I can get the ball rolling on this.
Would anyone like to help me. I'm trying to raise money for the developers that are directly making Android happen for the HD2.
I would like to be able to post their Paypal Donation links next to each of their names in my blog post and start trying to spread this around the Internet. If not the actual donation button then maybe I can post a link to an xda post with their donation button.
Here is the page I made for this(please copy and paste as I can not yet post links): h t t p : // androidontmobilehd2.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/money-bomb-for-hd2/
I need people to help me get all their donation links together and permission from each to use them. And I also need help to make sure that I have every deserving developer in the list.
Thanks
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I'm building the list here too so that xda members have it for quick refrence.
Dcordes:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=NF3YYSMALGXUJ
Cotulla:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=3C7JC3YZYBU2U
Netripper:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...bn=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donate_LG.gif:NonHosted
Why not contact the devs directly
Paypal Donation Links for Top Devs:
Dcordes:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=NF3YYSMALGXUJ
Cotulla:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=3C7JC3YZYBU2U
Netripper:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...bn=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donate_LG.gif:NonHosted
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Paypal Donation Links for Top Devs:
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Thanks!
Anyone with the other ones please post up.
lol if the dev's needed donations im am very sure they would ask...DIRECTLY
whats your cut
Still trying to add the donations links to my blog page everyone. Here is the list that I got from the discussion page:
cr2
NetRipper - Link added
dcordes - Link added
Markinus
LeTama
Cotulla - Link added
dan1j3l
Parad0XUA
manusfreedom
Please help me add the other links.
developers that wanted to be donated to have provided links to their paypal donation...dont really see the point of what your doing...sounds more like your trying to make a scam or something
wow you people really are hating on this guy or girl.
I don't see ANYTHING that would make this a scam. he/she even offers to send you to each developers own xda page to donate if you don't believe the links actually go to the real developers. I would suggest having the developers themselves reply here with a donate link so no one can doubt.
The poor guy/girl just wants to help the people that deserve it. And why do you assume the developers won't want the money??? are you insane? "If they wanted donations they would ask for it" well maybe they're to humble to ask for money! They may not think they deserve it but if I could I'd drop a dump truck full of cash on their doorstep, like it or not! lol
If you're to much of a d**k to want to donate to a good cause then just leave this thread.
I for one would love to encourage and reward the people who will one day bring me a 100% andriod/linux OS on my HD2. That is why I HAVE donated what small amount I could to the developers and will do so anytime I can.
P.S. to the people who will invariably say I am in on this so called "scam" you can ask TAEL or NRGZ28, they'll tell you I do/give as much as I can as often as I can and ask for nothing in return. also see that little star near my avatar that means I have donated to XDA for their part in the awesomeness, maybe some of you haters could try that?
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wow you people really are hating on this guy or girl.
I don't see ANYTHING that would make this a scam. he/she even offers to send you to each developers own xda page to donate if you don't believe the links actually go to the real developers. I would suggest having the developers themselves reply here with a donate link so no one can doubt.
The poor guy/girl just wants to help the people that deserve it. And why do you assume the developers won't want the money??? are you insane? "If they wanted donations they would ask for it" well maybe they're to humble to ask for money! They may not think they deserve it but if I could I'd drop a dump truck full of cash on their doorstep, like it or not! lol
If you're to much of a d**k to want to donate to a good cause then just leave this thread.
I for one would love to encourage and reward the people who will one day bring me a 100% andriod/linux OS on my HD2. That is why I HAVE donated what small amount I could to the developers and will do so anytime I can.
P.S. to the people who will invariably say I am in on this so called "scam" you can ask TAEL or NRGZ28, they'll tell you I do/give as much as I can as often as I can and ask for nothing in return. also see that little star near my avatar that means I have donated to XDA for their part in the awesomeness, maybe some of you haters could try that?
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Thank you, I'm glad to see that someone actually gets it. I didnt want to waste my time responding to people with negative comments. I get really tired of all the greedy and ungrateful people that just take and expect that it is a developer's job to provide them software. I'm sure that they have no idea what development hours cost when you have to purchase them. I know first hand that they are not cheap. And I am also vested in the fact that I own this phone and cant stand to use it with WM6.5. So it's either do everything I can to learn and help so that we can realize a complete Android replacement of WM or just send the phone back because two things I wont do are one, complain to people who have already given tons of their time and hard work and two, use windows mobile.
no problem. I'm not usually such a d**k myself but they just caught me off guard at the wrong moment
Browsing through Craigslist for an HD2 I came across multiple posts of people that are offering to upgrade the HD2 to winmo 6.5.x or Android for a fee of anywhere from $30-$60 dollars. I don't think it's right for people to be making a profit from something that they did not create. I highly doubt that they are taking part of the fee that they charge and donating it to the developers for their work. I've been flagging their posts in hopes that they get removed and will post information as to how to do install Androids themselves for free. I don't know if it's appropriate to ask you to do the same in your local cities and encourage the public to donate to the developers themselves instead of paying the $30-$60 dollars to someone that has done nothing to earn them except for ripping off the work of someone else. If I was a chef and stayed up for countless hours, missed family time and what not and found out that someone was making money off my work, i'd be livid. Just wanted to make you guys aware of a situation that is unacceptable.
I don't personally feel that by offering to set someones phone up with all the bells and whistles for a fee is wrong.
If a person doesn't feel like reading up and spending time learning how to setup their phone and wants to pay someone to do it for them that is there choice.
Saying that the person setting the phone up for them isn't right because they are collecting a fee to set up "open source" and freely distributed software onto there phone to save someone who is busy and doesn't have the time to spend hours reading on this forum to accomplish this is just silly.
Yeah all us phone junkies who don't have anything else better to do then sit on XDA and read and learn about our (hobby) for hours on end may seem normal to you and I but a HUGE portion of people do not have the time or wish to waste time on this when they can pay someone to have a tricked out phone to show off at the office.
And beyond that..the economy is in the toilet. People are trying to make a buck any possible way they can to feed themselves.
I have been buying HD2's when I see them cheap on craigslist and bringing them home, tricking them out and then reselling them for $100 to $150 profit for awhile now.
it has kicked in some extra income nicely helping buy kids school cloths, wife a nice dinner, etc etc
Just my two cents.
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Browsing through Craigslist for an HD2 I came across multiple posts of people that are offering to upgrade the HD2 to winmo 6.5.x or Android for a fee of anywhere from $30-$60 dollars. I don't think it's right for people to be making a profit from something that they did not create. I highly doubt that they are taking part of the fee that they charge and donating it to the developers for their work. I've been flagging their posts in hopes that they get removed and will post information as to how to do install Androids themselves for free. I don't know if it's appropriate to ask you to do the same in your local cities and encourage the public to donate to the developers themselves instead of paying the $30-$60 dollars to someone that has done nothing to earn them except for ripping off the work of someone else. If I was a chef and stayed up for countless hours, missed family time and what not and found out that someone was making money off my work, i'd be livid. Just wanted to make you guys aware of a situation that is unacceptable.
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+1... Unless these guys are giving donations to the chefs. These guys are also a lot here in Florida. That's why I also give an ad offering a FREE help in putting Android on their HD2.
Very much not trying to start a flame war here because I believe people have the right to do as they please...
But you must have some serious time on your hands to post on craigslist for free services. I need to reinstall my notebook, would you knock that out for me?
Just giving you a hard time.
But on the other issue you brought up. I personally donate to chefs who are elite and really drive some innovation with fixing issues, be it on the vibrant, HD2, nexus, etc. I own and follow six different phones and follow the serious chefs for those products. and kick into the beer fund from time to time. Again just like some who spend there time fixing up a phone for someone who doesn't feel like learning it themselves is really no different then people grabbing roms from here and throwing it on their phones. they technically (could) read, learn and create roms for there own personal use but they rather have someone who is a little smarter do it for them and if they are feeling generous they may kick in a couple bucks as a thank you.
People "don't" have to pay to get their phone tricked out but if they dont feel like spending the time learning it then hell....why not make a buck doing it for them.
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If we lived in a perfect world sure it would be great if they gave part of the profit to the original devs, but we dont and honestly if it get more people into Android is that a bad thing? Most noobs cant even figure out how to put widgets on their screen(had to help a lady do that) so there is no way they can do it themselves even if to us its easy so why not make them happy and the geek can make a little cash. But I agree donating a little to the devs would be the nice thing to do.
All of you have some very valid points. I just found it frustrating that the dev's would see no money from their own product. At the very least what can happen is that the dev's get introduced to other groups of people who in turn may come here, learn to flash their own rom and eventually donate.
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I agree with both perspectives on this issue.
a. Yes, there are sereral ppl providing such services
b. Yes, there are several students openly stating they learned how to do this and will do this for you for pizza money (Like $10-$15, so much for big business ideas)
c. Yes, the ppl doing this should donate to devs periodically.
d. Yes, there are several youtube videos out there showing step by step instructions on how to do the upgrades.
e. Yes, several so called craigslist experts end up bricking customer's phones, leave with buggy setups, incorrect radios, robotic voices :-D
I think its best for devs to continue their hard work for the community that appreciates and benefits from their work is far larger than the select few who go K2. The donations will continue to pour in as the development reaches to immaculate full-featured build solutions. At which point, the devs could consider options for official sales of their roms and android builds.
Today, a couple posts in this thread gave me an idea...
jimmng said:
how about a 1k reward for 8.1 jailbreak?
community needs a bit of a push.
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mkwhater said:
lol are you going to donate that 1k?
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I haven't checked if starting this "project" on XDA would go against any forum rules, but let me try this...
Let's offer a crowd-funded "reward" to the first hacker who comes up with a WORKING jailbreak for Windows RT 8.1. It doesn't have to be "pretty" or polished, just good enough to provide the same functions as the 8.0 jailbreak!
As far as amassing the reward, I would need suggestions to keep it transparent and really entice all these devs and hackers out there...
What do you guys think??
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Today, a couple posts in this thread gave me an idea...
I haven't checked if starting this "project" on XDA would go against any forum rules, but let me try this...
Let's offer a crowd-funded "reward" to the first hacker who comes up with a WORKING jailbreak for Windows RT 8.1. It doesn't have to be "pretty" or polished, just good enough to provide the same functions as the 8.0 jailbreak!
As far as amassing the reward, I would need suggestions to keep it transparent and really entice all these devs and hackers out there...
What do you guys think??
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Agreed.
I vow to put $50usd up
I like the idea, but I don't think it would help much. People have been working on this for months. Maybe you can convince them to work a little harder, but it's not like this is going to take the place of our day jobs ($1000 US is less than I make in one week, after taxes, for example; I've already put in more than 40 hours of effort myself and I'm far from the most as the majority of my effort goes to WP8).
For bounties like this to be effective, they need to either be large enough to motivate people to work on a long-term project when they would otherwise work on other things (possibly even on other paying activities), or the bounties need to be for small things that people can do in a few days max. As proposed, this is neither.
Don't get me wrong, if I could drop $50 to make a JB magically appear, I'd do it too. But, that's not how research works. Putting money into it - even "real" money, which this is not - doesn't guarantee faster results. It doesn't even guarantee *eventual* success; in this case I'm confident that we'll get it eventually, butI can't actually promise that.
I agree completely with GoodDayToDie, another problem isnt the money but some of the concepts are hard for us to wrap our heads around... Which means more time needs to be dedicated...
I understand your point, GoodDayToDie. This is the exact reason why I started this thread. If I could write code and understand the basics of hacking, I'd work on this myself. Unfortunately, I'm only a very advanced "end-user" that really can't wait for that JB.
As for the monetary compensation, your input is very appreciated. It's also why I didn't mention a specific amount for now. I just thought I should get that discussion going.
BTW, thank you for any and all time you dedicate to the JB!!
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I like the idea, but I don't think it would help much. People have been working on this for months. Maybe you can convince them to work a little harder, but it's not like this is going to take the place of our day jobs ($1000 US is less than I make in one week, after taxes, for example; I've already put in more than 40 hours of effort myself and I'm far from the most as the majority of my effort goes to WP8).
For bounties like this to be effective, they need to either be large enough to motivate people to work on a long-term project when they would otherwise work on other things (possibly even on other paying activities), or the bounties need to be for small things that people can do in a few days max. As proposed, this is neither.
Don't get me wrong, if I could drop $50 to make a JB magically appear, I'd do it too. But, that's not how research works. Putting money into it - even "real" money, which this is not - doesn't guarantee faster results. It doesn't even guarantee *eventual* success; in this case I'm confident that we'll get it eventually, butI can't actually promise that.
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Great idea!
What about to start project on kickstarter? (where everyone can donate what he can). I guess there are will be much more than 1K.
I think we can call it "extending" Surface 2 functionality.
Double-check whether KS (or any of the other crowdfunding sites) support such bounty projects. It's not usually how they're used and there may be a reason for that. I'd tend to say that doing it right on XDA isn't a great idea anyhow. There probably is a better option that you could link to from here, though.
That was my initial idea, I just don't think the 30-day timeframe is realistic. I'm still looking for an alternative that doesn't require a set date but that's still as transparent...
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Great idea!
What about to start project on kickstarter? (where everyone can donate what he can). I guess there are will be much more than 1K.
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Ok, I found two interesting alternatives: RocketHub and Quirky
Any suggestions?
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Double-check whether KS (or any of the other crowdfunding sites) support such bounty projects. It's not usually how they're used and there may be a reason for that. I'd tend to say that doing it right on XDA isn't a great idea anyhow. There probably is a better option that you could link to from here, though.
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The suggestion wasn't "don't use KS", it was "make sure the site you use allows this kind of 'bounty' project". That still holds. I don't personally use much crowdfunding; I can't really recommend one site over another.
oooo this is good, I reckon something like kickstarter would work indeed. At least developers will be able to allocate more time than they are now, time is money my friends.
... I don't know what kind of job you have, but that's not how most jobs in the software world work. I[m salaried; I can't just ask for fewer hours because I have some other project to work on. That's even assuming that the other project (jailbreaking RT 8.1) paid out at all; maybe somebody else gets it first and I have nothing for that time? Maybe nobody ever manages it, and the money sits and languishes while we spend time on things that (according to you) we could be spending on something that makes money instead? Maybe (this one is actually really common) we have good jobs that pay well, but consume enough of our time that we don't *want* to spend our free time on something that feels like work?
A bounty project might get people to work on this when they might otherwise work on some other hobby or research. This would be valuable, and may be worth establishing a bounty for. But trust me, it's not going to make them "able to allocate more time than they are now". Not for something with no income while working and no guarantee of payout at the end. That's just not how the world works.
This is not a Nexus 6 specific question, but I'd like to hear from other users about how much to contribute to a developer whose work you either use or who makes a special contribution to the Android community. I typically donate only once, and I try to make "generous" donations. Question is, what is considered an appropriate dollar amount. As I said I try to be "generous", but that is a vague term, and I am not a wealthy user. I won't state here what I consider "generous" for fear of embarrassing myself or others.
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This is not a Nexus 6 specific question, but I'd like to hear from other users about how much to contribute to a developer whose work you either use or who makes a special contribution to the Android community. I typically donate only once, and I try to make "generous" donations. Question is, what is considered an appropriate dollar amount. As I said I try to be "generous", but that is a vague term, and I am not a wealthy user. I won't state here what I consider "generous" for fear of embarrassing myself or others.
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I am not afraid to state what i donate anywhere between 20-50 dollars depending on the work. Root exploits bootloader unlocks. It really depends on the work.
I am not saying no work should go un noticed. Just saying that people offer more for much looked at project compared to others. Like people love xposed they will donate more than to someone that developed something else not so popular. Again I am not bashing anyone or any developer. Just depends on what is being developed IMHO.
I like to think my donation can buy them a good six pack of beer. so in my mind around $10 maybe $25 if they are doing outstanding work .
I also usually support developers in the Play Store even if I really don't need their particular application. I have probably spent $200.... 1 dollar at a time.
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