Hi all
I bought a JasJam about an year ago, and it has been working fine.
About 5 weeks ago, I flashed it with HardSPL 7, Radio 1.50 and Schap's 3.60a.
It worked fine till yesterday when suddenly following buttons stopped working: IE, Messaging, Left & right soft keys, start, ok, green & red buttons. Rest of the buttons, keyboard etc are fine. There was no impact, no "sudden movements". The buttons just stopped working! I mean, one minute they were fine and the next minute, they were screwed.
I have done following to fix this (in order)
1. Soft reset
2. Hard reset (which shows that there is no problem with the hardware)
3. Flashing with Schap's ROM again
4. Flashing with 3des ROM
5. Flashing with Sleuth's ROM
6. Flashing with Cingular (WM5)
And still, no use! Buttons still don't work.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Does the silence says: You have to live with it.
???
More Updates :s
Now I am not able to delete anything I type. :s Not even while using the onscreen keyboard! I can see that when i tap on the backspace button, it highlights, but the text doesn't get deleted! I have tried this in almost any place which allows you to enter text. :s
I think I will go back to my original shipped ROM and bootloader. :S
Strange stuff happening! Downgrading to olipro 1.10 has solved the backspace problem. How can a bootloader affect a function like that? :s
Back to shipped bootloader and ROM (not the radio) Still the buttons are not functional.
I also opened up the phone and cleaned the buttons, made sure all connections are properly in place. Put everything back together, and no, the buttons don't work.
What do I do?
I have tried a thousand other bootloaders, radios and ROMs... But these buttons wouldn't work?
Where are the geniuses like oli?
I have the exact same issue.. I have pretty much tried all SPL/Radio/ROM/App combinations, including the 1.01 IPL, original SPL, and WM5 that ships on the Tytn from HTC... And, just like you, the keys sometimes work, and then suddenly they stop. Restart or hard-reset seldom brings them back. I know it's not hardware issue because holding down the "-" and "-" keys while resetting always works. I also observe the LEDs on the front panel go all whacky. Sometimes the power LED, which normally blinks on battey power turns on and stays that way; sometimes it doesn't come on at all.
My guy feeling is that this is not ROM related, and somewhere along the line while I was enjoying the "flash-o-palooza", something got corrupted in the flash memory.
I am now looking for a method to do a "harder-reset" that will clean out the whole thing, reflash the bootloader and build it from scratch.
I think the buttons are not properly passing interrept requests to the OS, which as you correctly mentioned is a flash memory / bios problem. (I don't know a lot about hermes architecture)
HTC provides a diagnostic sd card in which you can check if the buttons work fine. I will try to get my hands on one of those.
Did you try going back to Wm5?
whistler4ever said:
Did you try going back to Wm5?
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Yep.. Many times.
any luck with this? can u get to bootloader mode with the keys?
not believing that it would be hardware problem, I disassembled already some times my TyTn and I did not have sucess. If someone have sucess, post here please
the only obvious thing is that the keybddr.dll driver is not be loaded properly. how do u normally load the rom's? do u let the software boot the phone, or do you put it in bootloader mode first?
as I use a Windows Vista, the ROM upgrader have to be done in the Bootloader Mode
But, Sometimes the buttons works, and in next minute, they die again
its a misterious
Hardware buttons also not working
I am also experiecing this problem. Occasionally the hardware buttons will work, then if I open the slider they stop working. I have also tried updating firmware etc.. but it hasn't helped. The buttons will work if i press the left and right keys while pressing the reset key to do a hard reset. They work every time doing this, so it seems like a software problem. But I don't understand how a s/w problem like this can remain there even after firmware update and hard resets.
I have opened the phone up several times, because I have another problem, or two. As much as I love the phone it has been totally unreliable. It shipped with the LCD not working, I diagnosed that as a faulty ribbon cable, which I replaced, that made the LCD work. But then the earpiece speaker and the front camera didn't work. Now this problem... this is starting to drive me crazy.......
Hi, I have the same problem, I think. Sometimes when I play games, browse the phone or slide down the keybord the buttons below the screen just stop working. I have also tried to flash different roms, but to no good. There is a temp fix thou but it work slow sometimes, if I scroll with the wheel for a bit(the scroll time varies) the button seem to work, but only for a little while.
Does anyone have any news on this issue, cause i can't use any program that need these buttons.
I also have this problem, I guess I'll have to send it in to get it fixed :|
Problem Solved
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
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I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
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I don’t think you got the same problem as us, if you check almost all the other button problem threads they are about the white screen but since we in this thread have not gotten any white screens or some of the other symptoms I'm quite sure it’s not the same. Also some with our problem have tried to change the flex cable but it has not fixed the problem.
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Me too!Anybody can soleve it?I found that when they aren't woring,we can touch on screen or press ok button on the left once or twice,they work again!
Hi
i own 6965 and hav a very wierd problem with the joystick.while movin my joystick thru the menu options it automatically starts movin rapidly.
eg - if i am browsin top to down then it starts moving very fast and even if i leave the joystick it keeps moving until i move the joystick again.
can any1 throw some lite on this issue
I have a 6945 that does the same thing. You know what I did about it...bought an AT&T Tilt. Problem went away.
download sk-tools then try all cleanups -reg,auto,temp..etc
then SR and see if all is good now
one more thing is to backup your device then performe HR-hard reset
if the joystik is ok try to finnd the software that ....
good luck
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I have a 6945 that does the same thing. You know what I did about it...bought an AT&T Tilt. Problem went away.
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now you are hiding from sun light to see the screen on your new device
my 6915 does the same. Just another unfixed bug from HP.
I got a 6965 too
and i also have this problem
I think this is a unsolve bug from HP
I hard reset and it still happens
Hey all
I have a weird problem with my prophet, some buttons stop fuctionning suddenly and after a while they function again. The buttons are <OK/Close>, End Button, Contacts and the right naviagation.
I hard reset the prophet and the buttons stops.
I removed the WM6.1 and flashed WM5 again the same problem.
I flashed again WM6.1 and nothing new. the buttons stops for a while and then get to work again
Any Ideas???
Thank you
I got the same problems a few months ago.
But in my case it really was a matter of the right ROM.
In your case I don´t know, maybe try a third ROM version...
G´luck!
I tried more than 5 ROMs and i have the same problem, i guess its something hardware malfunction, thanks anyway
After I installed new rom on my blackstone a new problem came out...
Time to time something hapens to my touch screen. It gets very very imprecise. For example, when I'm writing a SMS message I press the "V" button but then "G" is written on the screen... But this doesn't happen just when I'm writing a SMS but it happens no matter what I'm doing with the phone... Everything seems to be "shifted"/moved for about 1 centimetre upwards.
I made a hard reset and reinstalled rom but nothing didn't helped...
But it's funny because this isn't happening all the time but just time to time. Then I recalibrate the screen (voUp and voDO + tap the screen) and it helps for a few moments and than the same problem again. Then I'm doing the recalibration procedure till this problem vanish...
What is the problem, how can I solve it???
Please help because it is really annoying...
Hi,
May be that the change of Rom is only a coincidence?
It is not excluded that the touch screen of your blackstone can be a little damaged.
I have a pda that sometimes have the same problem, but I not updated any Rom to it.
Simply I stressed his touch screen with some abnormal pressure (I think).
thanks for reply...
It's funny because it works fine all day but suddenly you need to write a SMS or just answer the call, but that is not possible.
Well the screen might been damaged but it's weird because when I start calibrating the screen I tap the cross and it's not moved...
What can I do?
Same problem
I have same problem and I didn't make any ROM update. I didn't install any new software, but suddenly my screen started to be unaccurate and shifted somehow. calibration helps but after while it's shifted again. I was thinking about updating ROM, but if this is not a solution, then I don't want to ...
Well I send my phone to repair. They said that it was a mechanical issue so I think you should send it also due it looks like this is the only way to solve this problem. I hope you still have your phone under guarantee...
Oh and make sure whether you need original ROM or you may use the changed one, because in Slovenia you need stock ROM and no programs installed (like Garmin etc.). So the best think to do is to hard reset the phone and then send it to repair, so you don't have any problems...
Sorry for my bad English.
A few days ago, I decided to flash back my touch hd to the stock rom due to the big battery drain and slow performance.
Now my problems are gone and my phone is really fast,
but my screen is acting weird.
It happens mostly when I'm typing an sms, for example: I'm using swype and I want to swype a word that starts with the letter 'd', so I press 'd' and the swype line goes from the a to the d and then follows the path I've swyped.
It even writes a word that starts with an 'a'.
this is just an example, so I can describe what my problem is.
basically my screen thinks that I'm tapping somewhere else on the screen and then knows my actually tap-place.
This is not a bug in swype or sms, it happens everywhere in windows mobile.
It also isn't a screen allignment problem.
does anyone know how to fix this?
so again: it is the stock rom with the stock spl. is this a known issue, or are there any fixes?
thanks,
Artuur
Hmmm interesting...
so this did happen on any other rom you had flashed?
No, only on this stock rom.
I never had it with the stock rom when I had just bought the device, and I didn't had it on the cooked roms.
The problem began when I reflashed from energy rom to the stock rom.
Everything else (phone, wifi, bluetooth, battery...) is just fine.
i had strange issues with my touch screen before.
first i was sure that it came with the installation of mobile icq, so i got rid of it, didn't fix anything, hard reset, everything was fine for a while. then the problem came back, tried different roms, no change....
to cut a long story short, everytime the issue came up, i would panic, align the screen dozens of times and in the end perform a hard reset, just to realize it got me nowhere, until i finally found, that removing the display protector did the trick, apparently, there was a tiny air bubble somewhere on the very edge, that distorted all my inputs to slightly different spots.
since then i run the device without protector and everything is fine. from time to time it will still behave strange but carefully cleaning the display always resolves the issue, sometimes teeny tiny spots of dirt keep the device pressed in one spot and due to the way resistive touch screens work, it would only accept the middle of the 2 virtual press points as input.
so my advice would be:
1. clean your display, really clean it, especially the very edges, there can be something stuck there, practically invisible.
2. make sure, it is not software related, by flashing hspl, then a cooked rom and another radio, in combination with task 29 and hard resets makes sure, everything on your device is replaced.
3. if all that doesn't fix a thing, you might need to think about getting a new digitizer or entire screen.
hmmm. try a hard reset! or try flashing to a custom ROM, then reflashing again?