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Has anyone tried TomTom 6 ?
hi, yes i have tried it and i am a bit confused due to the problem i am experiencing. when i start tomtom 6 on my mda pro everything is ok , but, it dosnt work in landscape mode..i mean i does in landscape left-handed but it doesnt work in landscape right-handed mode, why is that , is there anyway to fix this problem. have a look at screens on the website:
http://pocketsoft.1500mb.com/
cheers, cudo
Anyone knows where to get the TomTom 6 yet?
I got it running and all fine.. also i am right handed....I can honestly say that this is the best navigation software out there as yet!! .....great stuff but no inbuilt screen rotation like the last version???.... apart from that AWESOME!!
wbr
Is it much different from 5.2?
What new features are there? Is it faster?
MUCH faster, it loads in less thatn half the time on my Blueangel
Midget_1990 said:
MUCH faster, it loads in less thatn half the time on my Blueangel
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Back to Universals...
On the Exec:
No noticeable change in startup time. Slightly quicker if its already been used that day.
I would say it is slightly slower navigating in 3d mode than 5.21, particularly off the motorway (i.e. where it has more to draw). However it is faster than the sluggish 5.00. (5.21 was super smooth)
Not sure if it's due to the massive map file containing all western europe, as opposed to a lone UK map.
Left and Right hand landscape seem to work ok. I had some screen issues after installing & running tt6 without soft-reseting the Exec.
After soft-reset, was working fine.
Navigating through the options/setup menu windows is slightly sluggish too. Buttons seem to need a firmer (longer?) press to register and action the change/change pages etc. Sometimes the buttons will be highlighted, indicating it knows you pressed it, but not actually do anything.
I miss the sharp, quick response of the 5.21 menus.
This might cause problems whilst trying to quickly change setting/change destination whilst driving.
i was really hopping that the lanscape refresh was fixed in this version but it's not. Just have to live with it.
Hi, can anybody tell me where I can buy TOMTOM6, been look very hard and cannot find anywhere, cheer in advance
Hi, is any body willing to send me the TomTom6 files as I still cannot download them.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53454&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
download the files from this ftp site :wink:
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That`s a dead link mate.
IE Link: ftp://xda+pcsmart24.com:[email protected]/
After clicking that link enter the username: [email protected] and the password: developers
try this then
Still a dead link!!
uh strange try this post in the forum then and scroll down to the 15th reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=354321#354321
1st page of that thread 15th reply down
Are maps newer in version 6 vs version 5.2, or is the update just software?
Thanks.
BillB said:
Are maps newer in version 6 vs version 5.2, or is the update just software?
Thanks.
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not sure if they're updated, but its still trying to navigate through several roads which have been blocked off for more than a year (in some cases since 2000) in Brum n West midlands...so as far as i am concerned its the same old maps.
Further to my previous post about speed of tt6:
When only using the "GB map with major roads of western europe"...it runs a little faster (3d nav + flicking through the menus), than when i was using the 800+MB map with all of western europe.
I still think 5.21 was smoother / more responsive in menus.
hate to think how it will run with the map of US which is > 1GB
tomtom 6
I have the tomtom6 running the GB plus map. it defenitely starts up quicker and the map is updated with new roads
Apparently, the older v5 maps are not compatible with this new v6. However, as far as i can ascertain, the POI are compatible so that is handy. I will try loading those later to check for myself.
Regarding the problems some are having. I also find the start up time has been vastly improved in this version. I only loaded the GB maps so cannot vouch for the speed of a full western europe installation. However, i can definately say that the speed with this version is quicker than v5 maps.
As for the "Rotate" function, this is correct, it has been removed from v6. Why this is so i have absolutely no idea, as i found this feature not only useful, but it became absolutely essential. Due to the car holder, i have to use the Universal in landscape mode and rotated 180*. Therefore, i have to make sure that the screen is rotated the correct way before starting tomtom. TomTom will use the orientation that the Universal is set at upon startup, so if you forget, you have to close it, rotate the screen and then restart tomtom again!
Initially, this was a major pain. But i can assure everyone that it is amazing how quickly you will adapt and remember to set the orientation before using the tomtom. I really thought that it was going to be a major problem and was about to revert back to v5. Thankfully i stuck with it as it is a better product than v5 imho.
If you like this version, i recommend supporting tomtom by purchasing this fine release, thereby ensuring the continued development of the TomTOm PDA releases!
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Hi to All,
i want to be provocative and make a strong statement to know your opinion:
the conclusion: navigon 7.3.0 is superior in all aspects to TomTom 7.910.
In fact, i am having a very pleasant experience with Navigon after many years of TomTom "study".
In summary, the added benefits which i see:
definitely a clearer graphics, both in 2D and 3D in particular realview and also special highway indications to make driving safer. This includes more information like the turn after the next one.
NavTeq maps are, at least in my area, much more detailed and precise with respect to roads and also speed limits indications are strictly matching the signs!
Richer and more informative POI collection (for example, with the actual logos and graphics for the different fuel stations, supermarkets, etc.etc.)
text to speech by default: in french it is really excellent!
Cheaper: 99 Euros (149 with the 2 years maps subscription) is definitely less than TomTom....if a touch HD owner could buy it!
fix is instantaneous in Navigon: time that the software loads, the gps is already there!
Now the remaining defects of Navigon:
to install it you have to use a mortscript and modified xml files (all listed in other threads)
still, in 800x480 the screen aspect ratio is slightly distorted (see other threads)
exiting from the program is surprisingly slow!
switching from landscape to portrait and viceversa can only be done at startup (actually, i like this behaviour but i am probably the only one...)
Still, the touch HD is not an officially supported device. However, differently from TomTom, they don't try to keep you out and allow freshmaps and synchronization, for example.
Just wanted to propagate my experience, since the small installation issues related to point 1. were somehow keeping me away from this fantastic product. In addition, TomTom pissed me off - since i sincerely tried to buy it and at the end they refunded me since i didn't have an HTC Touch but "only" a Touch HD...e.g. "only" the best PDA ever! Maybe it is too much nicer than TomTom PNA boxes?
...Am i right?
for the speedcam alerts navigon is still a bad solution and even with the mortscript mn7 doesn't run on some hd... igo 8 seems to be the best solution...
i like Navigon but the interface could be improved. I can't see the info because the text is too small which is a problem on my motor bike. Also there is a lot of wasted space in the direction arrow window which could be used better. All the info in the dreaded TomTom is very clear on the motor bike so no stress trying to read the info - I never use voices while driving - would drive me nuts.
Would be nice to see some screen shots of both and other software even for comparison.
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I never use voices while driving - would drive me nuts.
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Really? When I'm on my motorcycle, I have my HD in my jacket pocket and use the earphones for voice Nav. I can't imagine navigating the Swiss mountain roads while watching a PDA screen! Anyway, maybe your eyes are faster than mine
I agree
and what about Navigon Vs IGO8??
i think IGO8 is the best navi on pda...
I have Navigon and TomTom installed on my HD. TomTom has all hi res graphics whereas Navigon has some stretched graphics in some places. Maps are hi res in both. However, Navigon has Text to Speech and announce road names whereas TomTom does not. That does it for me
When forced to use mortscript to simply install a program - it can´t be a goot solution anyway. I even had a hard time go get iGO running.
For Navigon, I never used mortscript. Installed fine with WVGA xml files. All works fine, except I get the memory errors. After several taps of the ok button it finally runs ok.
Totally agree...
I'm using Navigon since the version 5 on PDAphone... and it was since the beginning a lot better than Tomtom !!
From my point of view, Tomtom always had the world's ugliest graphical interface...!!
The version 7.450 is still installed on my HD, and the only positive points are the speedy loading time and the Master Yoda’s voice… ;-)
Right now, with the version 7 of Navigon, I'm also a bit disappointed with the too small text... however the maps are a lot more accurate than the Tomtom maps !!
I'm also using iGo 8 sometimes... not bad at all !!
Has anyone tried or used this navigation, it seems to be at least adequate to TomTom. Any opinions?
I have copilot 7 running on my X1. I dont find the resolution to be working well. In portrait it displays in wqvga which means the text is great but not enough map information. In landscape it displays in vga which is great for the map information but text is too small to read safely while driving and the rest of the screen is a strip for next turn directions etc. I have also started using the new released route66 mobile 8. Maps are Q3 2008 and display much more configurable. For example you can have loads of onscreen information or you can turn off text information and have just voice directions with full 3 inch wvga for the maps. Just my observations but hope that helps.
The problem w/ copilot is they are using their own map data, not the big 2 like TeleAltas or Navtech. I tried copilot 5 long time ago and found it's map data is very outdated and problematic. For US, I would rate the GPS software as follow:
IGO 8.3.2.xx (TTS + very smooth 3D operation) > Garmin MobileXT 5.0.20w (Google search builtin + Realtime traffic/flight status are killer features) > IGuidance 4 (simple, fast w/ TTS) > Tomtom 7 (very smooth and easy to use, but without TTS and distinguish feature = not shine in any single aspect).
Thanks guys for the advice. We will now go with Route66, there are only a few alternatives, becuase we need US and WesternEurope Maps.After installing and some use we will report back.
Hi
Having tried TomTom 7, Copilot and the "try before buy" Navigon; I found all to be wanting in some way. I have not tried: Garmin XT is fixed to a SD card - I don't want to swop cards; IGO 8 looks good but seems to require lots of fixes.
Is there a GPS application (not google or similar online app) that just works from the box or cab ?
I like the google app but I don't like the high data rates which could get expensive when I'm roaming.
I just want a GPS app that has its own maps on my SD card (16 gbyte card so loads of space available). Does this really exist ?
When I check the official GPS provider sites (e.g., TomTom and Copilot) then they say their product is not compatible with the HTC HD - I guess that explains all the various hoops people have to jump through to get an app working.
I suspect I have to wait until spring next year for the app companies to provide a working HD compatible version ? Or, does anyone know better ??
Thanks & holiday greetings to all, Dave.
You can't compare Google Maps with a navigation solution like TomTom, IGo or Navigon. Google Maps is just showing the area around your current position, whereas the other programs can navigate you through the country.
As far as I know TomTom works just without any work, all others need to be configurated. How to do that is mentioned in the various threads here, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
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the other programs can navigate you through the country.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
Well I can use google to navigate as it has a "show directions" option. I know it is not as sophisticated as the other GPS apps.
My problem with google is it needs a data link which gets expensive when I'm out of my home country (hence need often a GPS) because I have to make a gprs link to have google working.
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
Thanks anyway for answering.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
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I never heard Google Maps talking to me something like "in 400 metres turn left". Maybe I missed something .
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TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
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Then you will have to try get IGo8 or Navigon working.
Here is a new app - anyone use this successfully on the HD ?
http://directions.ltd.uk/pda-navigation/pocket-navigator-8-europe
Does CoPilot work on the HD?
I've got Version 6 currently on my XDA Orbit & was thinking of upgrading
Garmin Mobile XT works great on my HD
Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
I also gave Garmin XT a try.
One problem though, up until now, i am feeling that there is Lag or the cpu is not following up too fast to show changes, so if i am making a turn in a roundabout, you can see a strange thing happen on the screen.
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Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
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Thanks davast. I actually got a copy of CoPilot which was sold to me as CoPilot7 for windows mobile. It turned out to be the specific version for the HTC Diamond.
I think I will wait for the new version and double check this time that the supplier knows what they are doing.
Regards, D.
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
I'm going to try a new one when I get a minute, beta atm but works on my hacked Hermes to wm6.1 and is nice
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What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
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Hi Gulioth, I received version 7 "for the HTC Diamond" which will only load to the internal storage of the Diamond - hence, I returned it as this would not work on the HD.
I don't know the specific current version other than "7". If you have CoPilot Central then you should be able to find it. Unfortunately with the Diamond version there also is no copy of the CoPilot Central.
I have returned the Diamond version and I'm sitting waiting for someone (PLEASE !!) to make a legally correct version work.
If you check here: http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp you can see that ALK says the HD is not yet compatible.
I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
Thanks - that's a new one to me - I will investigate "on course navigation"
Ciao, Dave
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
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Hmmm - this seems to be only USA & Canada according to their site:
Map Coverage USA and Canada.
The latest maps and up-to-date points of interest for United States. Full road coverage with over 10 443 000 kilometers of updated roads, and over 12.3 millions points of interest. Includes maps of Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/ocn8_intro.aspx
I did not specify in my original question that I'm based in Europe.
I'm looking for a legally correct GPS application that works "out-of-the box" or direct from the cab without having to tweak xml files or anything else and which is recognised by the software provider as compatible and acceptable. TomTom and CoPilot do not yet list the HD as a compatible device. I also don't want a software that is linked to one micro SD card (like Garmin XT).
I believe that CoPilot will be the right choice when it is HD compatible. I like also TomTom but it seems so difficult to make it work - there are many threads here about the tricks needed to make maps work. I do have TomTom running but only with the sample map. Trying to get TomTom home to accept the HD and legally download new Maps does not seem legally correct now - maybe next year ...
Lol-x said:
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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WOW - this seems to be a first, a GPS app that claims the HTC HD is compatible:
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723
Hi
I just install the igo navigation on my desire, the program seens to work fine but i have the following problem i can get the aplication running on full screen , how i can do that? i can't find any settings on the program for change the resolution.
Regards
Quite simple you can't!
The resolution of the Desire (and the N1, and the droid, etc) isn't supported yet.
I tryed navigon and it works great. you should give it a try.
thx for you fast reply , dit you know when will be suported?
You can try this: download from HERE motonav and install it then rename the igo folder on the sd card to motonav and there you go. full screen igo amigo with a diferent skin.
Wondering if this really works.....
Had motonav installed on my Desire, but because the resolution of the Milestone is different from the Desire, you're missing a few bottom pixels/buttons.
I've already send iGo an e-mail but until now I never received an answer.
I've tried all the different best known navigation software available on Android (Navigon, Motonav, Sygic and now CoPilot) but all have there strength and weaknesses. I really don't have a favorit.
On WM my favorite was iGo or Navigon. Actually I thought I preferred Navigon but it didn't run smooth enough on my Xperia so I sticked with iGo.
But it looks like they somehow leave features out of the navigation on Android.
On android navigon looks great, but it gives an error when navigating to a different country then the one you live in (if someone has an solution please let me know), and I'm missing some information on the screen like how much time and distance left till you reach the destination.
CoPilot looks more for children... Big colorfull icons which sometimes interfere with the interface (eg the speedlimit indicator).
Motonav works great, but couldn't get the speedcameras to work, and it also looks a bit depressive with the purple/brown/grey colors. Also important information was missing, you had to press on the screen first to see that information. Not really safe doing this when you're driving your car.
Sygic sometimes calculates really strange routes. And the newest version 10 didn't work smooth on my desire. During driving it wasn't smooth at all. Even though I had turned of all the online services.... Maybe I had the wrong version. Don't really know.
After all I now stick with CoPilot because it has the most options I want, runs smooth, but for me it far from ideal.
The smoothest runs Navigon.
The best would be a combination between Navigon and iGo/Motonav...
But to come back on topic, if you've tried the solution of R3dD3vil please let me know
Owww I see the version of R3dD3vil is a special 480x800 version..... Hmm that's solves a bit of the problems
@Bart1981,
Do you have the 30 day trial avigo? Because one of the limits is navigation in 1 country only.
Let's say it this way, I had a modified version of the Navigon trial
But that would explain the thing
btw the file posted bij R3dD3vil works. But it's not flawless....
Sometimes some text and numbers are interfering with eachother. And the menueffect are not that fluently as they are in the original motonav file. But it works
I saw this was version 2, so properbly there will come some other finetuned versions....
any news on igo / motonav version that would work flawlessly?
Regards,s
yes, the motonav link from top is working 100%. i have it on my desire, and works flawless! i'm in argentina, and without it i think i have to drive off roads, in the air!!! this is the link
are speedcams working with MotoNav?
Yes , working fine here.
yep, for me too.
have you put them into content/speedcam?
yep,overthere
works great here
wow, that simple!!! Just took my maps,POI etc from another nav I have for my WM phone and it works!
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iGO on Desire
Hi, I need some help. I installed iGO with skin from MotoNav. but I have a problem with speedcam , not to show my nothing. What files should exist in sdcard/motonav/content/speedcam ? I'm interested in the following countries Norway, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania. I have these files in the folder speedcam:
speedcam.spdb,
SpeedcamUpdates.spud
SpeedCam_EU__14-03-2010_
Is there any application or software that automatically turn on the GPS? I mean I do not have every time before opening the navigation application, first enable the GPS on.
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Is there any application or software that automatically turn on the GPS? I mean I do not have every time before opening the navigation application, first enable the GPS on.
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From what I understand you can leave the GPS on at all times. Android actually powers it on only if needed, so it shouldn't be on whe you are not using the navigation software. You can check this easily since the GPS icon at the top only shows when you open the navigation software.
Speedcam
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yep, for me too.
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Can you put at least a picture from your device when showing you at least a speed camera? And I mean not the speed limit signs on the device.