Front Buttons problem - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hello all, I'm having a problem with my hermes. The buttons from the front (internet explorer, mail, windows phone and so on...) don't seem to work anymore. besides that, when i press power button to turn off the screen, the back light from the phone buttons is still on. I thought it may be a windows problem considering the fact that at the beginning they were working sometimes. After changing windows the problem persists.
has anyone any idea about this?

Sorry if I'm hijacking.... I'm having the same problem. I pulled it apart and checked/reset all of the connectors and still nothing. After a brief moment of pondering I realized it started happening after I had done a sync with my desktop. So I'm thinking that a file got corrupted. I REALLY dont want to have to do a hard reset and reinstall all my programs. Anyone know how I can load just the files that contain the controls?

and yes I checked the other thread but I dont have the white screen, yes I tried the fix anyway, no it didnt work. I'm pretty sure its a software issue. Someone please help us...

Okay, I did a hard reset and still no joy. So I'm guessing this is a hardware issue? Any suggestions?

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cant enable wireless.

Hi i cant seem to enable the vireless netowrk on my i-mate jasjar. It worked in the beginning but now it just blinks realy fast when i press the button to enable it.
The only thing i can think of is that i installed the extended rom thing from buzz...it was that cab file i found in the comments on his site.
pls can anybody help me with this?
Please help me ppl. I tryed reverting the settings for the extended rom and that did not help eather.
Please i really need som help here guys
I had my wifi stop working at one point for unknown reasons. Soft resetting didn't fix the problem. It did start working again after a hard reset. It was not doing any fast blink like you describe, so it may be that whatever your problem is has no relation to whatever my problem was. I don't know if you have tried hard reset, but in any event I'm hoping one of the wizards here will have better advice for you.
Hehe by fast blinking i mean when i press the "wifi" button in the wireless manager. It just blinks breafly to indicate that i pressed it..but it does not turn blue like its suposed to and it does not turn wifi on like its suposed to.
Had hoped i wouldnt have to do a hard reset as i have my device set up just perfectly now
So if anybody has some tips here ill try anything.
btw what is sddeamon? i had sevreral of thouse in the notification que and i remoced all but one. could this be the problem?
OK, now I know what you mean, and unfortunately my problem was different. It would presumably turn on (button would change color) but not connect with anything, including access point that was no problem before. And sorry again since I don't know what that sddaemon thing is for sure. It might be related to the voice dial function, but I'm really not sure. Hard reset is definitely a pain. I've made a little cheat sheet for myself with all my tweaks to get things set up again. But it's a pain anyway. Part of the cost of being on the bleeding edge with these wonderful little machines.
so true so true. But since it seems that nobody else has this problem im a bit afraid that there might be a hardware problem.
Well only way to fighure it out is to do a hard reset!. Is there any way to back up WM5 like there was in 2003?
well i have now preformed a hard reset and that did not work. I also installed the imate rom twice (installed arabic first LOL) and that did not good eather.
So i guess there is a hardware issue with the phone itself...
Any thoughts?

exec goes into continuos loop thing

Just got a s/h exec and I think it is faulty. Whats happens is it starts up ok and works for a while and then for no reason that I can think of it goes into a loop which stops it from working.
When I say a loop I'm not sure thats the right terminology but imagine if you tapped the start button and the start menu opens... and then imagine you tapped the tab button , the next item would highlight. If you tapped the tab button again the next item would highlight and so on. Well its as if the tab button is being hit over and over because all the items in the start menu will be highlighted one after the other over and over again.... it just goes round and round in a loop.
Its possible to escape from this and go to another screen but the same looping will go on in that screen too.
If you switch off and leave for a while and come back to it it works ok for a short time and thens starts the carry on again.
Sometimes if you just wait a while it stops, but will start doing it again even if you dont touch anything.
I've noticed one way to force it to stop is to slide the volume button... this seems to stop the loop and allows normal function for a while.... then the crazy looping starts again.
Has anyone seen this or know anything about it.
Nope sorry, maybe you can have it replaced where you bought it as from your post, you can recreate the problem easily.
Side Note : Have you tried Hard Resetting? Or installing another ROM?
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
weegee said:
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
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Just download a new ROM form imate or something, unpack all the files in the ROM update to a directory, put the attached file in same directory.
Enter bootloader mode (Backlight + Power + Reset Hole) you will see SERAIL on the screen but not backlight so look hard.
Plug into PC, the SERIAL will change to USB
Run the attached file. You will see a photo of an S100 but continue anyway....
Hard reset when finished... DOne
ok have installed latest rom... but exec still doing loop loop
Just for arguments sake, can you try installing Imate's newest ROM?
yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
weegee said:
yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
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If you have tried different ROM flavors and still get the same problem, then it is definitely hardware related. Send your unit in and demand for a new one not a repair
Just been playing around with it again and notice that I can make the problem happen if i press any of the keys on the navigation pad except the top one.... and i can stop the loop by pressing the light button.
Weird or what.
My initial thought on this is maybe its got wet at some point
I have opened the xda up and stripped it down to all its parts. No sign of any dampness or dust dirt etc. Dont see anything missing or broken.
Put back together, but still doing this.
Driving me nuts.... its a great machine but is very tiresom to use with this going on.
Another think I notice about this machine, I have never used it as a phone, but I tried putting a sim card in and There is no sound through the earpiece. Only sound comes from the speakers when you set it to speaker phone.
I suggest just return it and have it replaced. It's probably a faulty button. Probably gets stuck whenever you press it.
Doesnt need a button to be pressed for it to start.. just starts by itself... and can stop by itself too.
Sometimes it can for ages without doing it, other times it does it all the time.
Cant figure if its hardware or software problem
GHOST-IN-THE-MACHINE
Yea... maybe I should get a priest !
I had this problem when i first got mine, if you move the sound slider down, then up, it seems to stop doing it for a while, and it hasn't happened in the last couple of weeks atall, maybe its because its new, and just needs to settle in?
Jay
Well at least I'm not the only one to have it.
My sound slider does stop it happening but only for a while and then it starts up again.
The machine is perfect in every other way, its just an annoyance I could do without.
I've tried everything, even stripped it down and left parts out, like buttons, to see if they are the source, but no difference.
I have the same problem!!!!!!!!!
Someone help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have same problem. I send to service but until today they can't repair that problem.

Most front panel buttons not working

Hi Folks,
The bottom red/green phone buttons and the ones next to them have suddenly stopped working, together with the top browser and email buttons. The central pad and the side buttons still work fine.
I have tried a soft reset and also pulling out the battery fo a few minutes to no avail.
I think one of the keys may be stuck down as now the backlight also stays on all the time while on battery and it's set to turn off after 10 secs.
I can report the phone as faulty (had it about 60 days) and get a replacement but just wondered 2 things:
1) Anyone else had this (and managed to fix it)?
2) Is there a diagnostics mode I can invoke that will do a manual or automatic button/stuck button test?
Thanks.
I now have this same issue- and after a hard reset am looking to send my device back to HTC... unless anyone else has has this issue and found a solution???
Here's hoping someone has....!
Edit: Looks like this is not so much of an uncommon problem- 3 or 4 other people in this forum have had the same issues. Any solutions anyone?
Update- despite having had no effect with a hard reset, ROM re-install, battery removal etc, my buttons have now suddenly decided to work again (????)
My hypothesis- it's something to do with my 2GB Sandisk card- when I'm using the card, I have occaisonal lockups, programs starting by themselves etc. However, this might be a tenuous link, as the buttons did not come back to life when I removed the card...
I guess I'll just have to keep an eye on the workings of them over the next few days. But if anyone else suffers from this issue, do a hard reset, take your battery out for ~6 hours, and then try again. I can't say it "worked" for me, but that's what I did, and they now work again.
Apologies that I seem to be writing this thread all on my own ;-)
I have had something similar happen. And my keyboard locks up.
Not sure what is causing it, but I am pretty sure it is something I installed that messed with the reg conflicting with something else.
Odd thing on mine is the phone key opens up the cammera... and I can reset it by hitting OK after closing the camera.
But a hard reset solves it so I just have to be methodical to figure out what is causing it.
EDIT: Turned out it was my case causing my problems. To much preasure was being applied to buttons during a soft reset causing all sorts of problems. Sorry I could not help.

Hadware Buttons Not Responsive

Hi all
I bought a JasJam about an year ago, and it has been working fine.
About 5 weeks ago, I flashed it with HardSPL 7, Radio 1.50 and Schap's 3.60a.
It worked fine till yesterday when suddenly following buttons stopped working: IE, Messaging, Left & right soft keys, start, ok, green & red buttons. Rest of the buttons, keyboard etc are fine. There was no impact, no "sudden movements". The buttons just stopped working! I mean, one minute they were fine and the next minute, they were screwed.
I have done following to fix this (in order)
1. Soft reset
2. Hard reset (which shows that there is no problem with the hardware)
3. Flashing with Schap's ROM again
4. Flashing with 3des ROM
5. Flashing with Sleuth's ROM
6. Flashing with Cingular (WM5)
And still, no use! Buttons still don't work.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Does the silence says: You have to live with it.
???
More Updates :s
Now I am not able to delete anything I type. :s Not even while using the onscreen keyboard! I can see that when i tap on the backspace button, it highlights, but the text doesn't get deleted! I have tried this in almost any place which allows you to enter text. :s
I think I will go back to my original shipped ROM and bootloader. :S
Strange stuff happening! Downgrading to olipro 1.10 has solved the backspace problem. How can a bootloader affect a function like that? :s
Back to shipped bootloader and ROM (not the radio) Still the buttons are not functional.
I also opened up the phone and cleaned the buttons, made sure all connections are properly in place. Put everything back together, and no, the buttons don't work.
What do I do?
I have tried a thousand other bootloaders, radios and ROMs... But these buttons wouldn't work?
Where are the geniuses like oli?
I have the exact same issue.. I have pretty much tried all SPL/Radio/ROM/App combinations, including the 1.01 IPL, original SPL, and WM5 that ships on the Tytn from HTC... And, just like you, the keys sometimes work, and then suddenly they stop. Restart or hard-reset seldom brings them back. I know it's not hardware issue because holding down the "-" and "-" keys while resetting always works. I also observe the LEDs on the front panel go all whacky. Sometimes the power LED, which normally blinks on battey power turns on and stays that way; sometimes it doesn't come on at all.
My guy feeling is that this is not ROM related, and somewhere along the line while I was enjoying the "flash-o-palooza", something got corrupted in the flash memory.
I am now looking for a method to do a "harder-reset" that will clean out the whole thing, reflash the bootloader and build it from scratch.
I think the buttons are not properly passing interrept requests to the OS, which as you correctly mentioned is a flash memory / bios problem. (I don't know a lot about hermes architecture)
HTC provides a diagnostic sd card in which you can check if the buttons work fine. I will try to get my hands on one of those.
Did you try going back to Wm5?
whistler4ever said:
Did you try going back to Wm5?
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Yep.. Many times.
any luck with this? can u get to bootloader mode with the keys?
not believing that it would be hardware problem, I disassembled already some times my TyTn and I did not have sucess. If someone have sucess, post here please
the only obvious thing is that the keybddr.dll driver is not be loaded properly. how do u normally load the rom's? do u let the software boot the phone, or do you put it in bootloader mode first?
as I use a Windows Vista, the ROM upgrader have to be done in the Bootloader Mode
But, Sometimes the buttons works, and in next minute, they die again
its a misterious
Hardware buttons also not working
I am also experiecing this problem. Occasionally the hardware buttons will work, then if I open the slider they stop working. I have also tried updating firmware etc.. but it hasn't helped. The buttons will work if i press the left and right keys while pressing the reset key to do a hard reset. They work every time doing this, so it seems like a software problem. But I don't understand how a s/w problem like this can remain there even after firmware update and hard resets.
I have opened the phone up several times, because I have another problem, or two. As much as I love the phone it has been totally unreliable. It shipped with the LCD not working, I diagnosed that as a faulty ribbon cable, which I replaced, that made the LCD work. But then the earpiece speaker and the front camera didn't work. Now this problem... this is starting to drive me crazy.......
Hi, I have the same problem, I think. Sometimes when I play games, browse the phone or slide down the keybord the buttons below the screen just stop working. I have also tried to flash different roms, but to no good. There is a temp fix thou but it work slow sometimes, if I scroll with the wheel for a bit(the scroll time varies) the button seem to work, but only for a little while.
Does anyone have any news on this issue, cause i can't use any program that need these buttons.
I also have this problem, I guess I'll have to send it in to get it fixed :|
Problem Solved
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
crajoh said:
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
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I don’t think you got the same problem as us, if you check almost all the other button problem threads they are about the white screen but since we in this thread have not gotten any white screens or some of the other symptoms I'm quite sure it’s not the same. Also some with our problem have tried to change the flex cable but it has not fixed the problem.
*edit - I did not put the angry smiley on this post.
Me too!Anybody can soleve it?I found that when they aren't woring,we can touch on screen or press ok button on the left once or twice,they work again!

my HD froze, hard reset not working

Hi all, first time poster long time browser I checked the wiki and did a search but couldn't find a similar post. Here goes..
Yesterday i tried to connect to this protected wifi at a coffeeshop, but my HD did not manage to connect even after entering the network password. In the end it froze. The home screen was showing, i could feel the vib when pressing the screen, but no action happened. I did a soft reset, but that didnt make a difference... nothing working still, while it is still trying to connect to wifi.
Then I first did one hard reset. I managed to get to the screen where i am asked to touch the screen in order to configure the device. While i could feel the vib, nothing happened. I did a second hard reset, ended up at the same screen, but this time there is no vib when pressing the screen... and still nothing is happening. Same situation when doing a third hard reset.
I am lost for ideas.... Have anyone of you ever experienced something similar and what did you do to resolve it? Or have anyone any suggestions as to what I should try next??
Very bad dude,
what you can do (i dont know if this will work).....Flash your original rom again. it is a kind of a hard reset, but maybe this will work.
can you boot to boatloader (three color screen), and see the text USB when connected to pc?
Hi Kadir,
thanks for your answer.
I am trying to flash my rom using the excellent tool Hard-SPL package from OliNex, but to no avail.... i keep getting error message 202 meaning that it can't connect with the device...
This may sound obvious, but just in case... have you tried to remove the battery when the device is turned off? Is the only way to ensure you are fully turning it off, in case you have some kind of 'static' acting up. I had a similar issue on a PDA and also in my notebook, and was solved by removing battery.
hi,
thanks for the advice. I wish this was all it took, but alas no, i am not that lucky. I am starting to think this is a hardware issue....
can you see the 3 color screen?(when phone is off push power on + volume down button and keep volume down pushed).
if yes can you see it you are now in the bootloader. just chech if you see text usb, this means its connected.
and then flash, no 202 anymore.
do not use hard spl if you want HTC to repair your phone(warranty issue)
Don't you have to disable USB connection in ActiveSync too? Or was that just me?
I found the Flash program killed active sync anyway, but you're right all the guides say to disable it.

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