has anyone used the titan tethered to laptop to download torrents?
i know it works, but im thinking more along the lines of my carrier (VZW) finding realizing because the traffic looks differently than other traffic.
am i being paranoid? or am i more likely to get caught by vz for tethering if i download torrents.
thanks
Verizon will shut you down if you download excessively. It worked for me, but I wouldn't do it if I were you. I guess if you're desperate.
I think the unwritten download limit is 5GB. My brother got his data connection turned off after we downloaded some torrents over Christmas break at Vail. Good coverage though.
Netflix is probably a better option if you're just jonsing for some movies, they've got an online player now too.
im not concerned with the limit as much as what the traffic looks like...
im well under the 5gb limit, just want to know if they are more likely to notice that its torrents than just browsing internet or streaming movies.
They seem to cut my connection session anytime I visit youtube for some odd reason, that or my connection freezes.
I've used wmTorrent on occasion. Good download speeds. Unlike many desktop torrent clients, the version I used did not have the ability to encrypt traffic. My carrier - TELUS - hasn't bothered me regarding types of traffic. Please note I have 'unlimited data'. Frankly I think it's unrealistic to expect a WISP to pay attention to your every packet.
gbenj said:
has anyone used the titan tethered to laptop to download torrents?
i know it works, but im thinking more along the lines of my carrier (VZW) finding realizing because the traffic looks differently than other traffic.
am i being paranoid? or am i more likely to get caught by vz for tethering if i download torrents.
thanks
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Yes I have and no they did not. I use uTorrent. i also have used wifirouter no problems yet.
gbenj said:
has anyone used the titan tethered to laptop to download torrents?
i know it works, but im thinking more along the lines of my carrier (VZW) finding realizing because the traffic looks differently than other traffic.
am i being paranoid? or am i more likely to get caught by vz for tethering if i download torrents.
thanks
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Each carrier says they have unlimited data plans, this is not really true. If you look in the contract, unlimited usually means 5-8gb a month depending on the service. If you go over those quantities they have the right to end your service. I use my phone as a modem when I go on business trips (about 12 times a year) and I use it for torrents, I been doing it for almost 2 years and never had a problem, but I never went over 8gb (limit for sprint).
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Each carrier says they have unlimited data plans, this is not really true. If you look in the contract, unlimited usually means 5-8gb a month depending on the service. If you go over those quantities they have the right to end your service. I use my phone as a modem when I go on business trips (about 12 times a year) and I use it for torrents, I been doing it for almost 2 years and never had a problem, but I never went over 8gb (limit for sprint).
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I have never kept track of usage, this is very helpful.
Were you keeping track on your laptop or is there a way to track on ppc?
Also is there a utorrent type app for wm? Something we could use to download to sd card?
I use NetLimiter 2 Monitor.
http://www.netlimiter.com/
Its free and will gige you a trafic report for the hr. day, mo., yr.
And you can throttle it down for separate connections.
I try to keep my usage under 5gb.
When I was with Qwest, they thought I was using too much at 12gb.
I have since been monitoring my trafic.
WM Torrent v2, is a usefull program, but I then have to logon to VZW to check my usage.
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I have never kept track of usage, this is very helpful.
Were you keeping track on your laptop or is there a way to track on ppc?
Also is there a utorrent type app for wm? Something we could use to download to sd card?
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I didnt really keep track, but I didnt go too crazy. I just tethered to my laptop and used utorrent for DLing stuff
I know that I use over 10gb a month on my tether. I also have an aircard that I use for my home network. I have truly unlimited data ($52.80 a month [60-12%]). I've had an unlimited data plan with VZW for six years or so. A buddy of mine got an air card awhile after I did and he got shut down for streaming movies. "Over data usage limits" was the reason cited. I know for a fact that I stream and download five to ten times more data than he does because my connection is always on and I'm usually downloading something. uTorrent works great while tethered. If VZW was going to shut someone down for what they download VS how much they download, it would require a massive number of employees to keep track of all of their customers.
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I was wondering if t mobile offer more then that 5k cap cuz I have unlimited and we all know its pretty ****ty when you go over it uggggg soooo slowwwee. I go over it with out even teathering lol but ya if anyone know let me know.
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You go over without tethering??? I thought the internet on the phone was setup to use smaller bandwith so we dont go over wow
There was one individual in G2 forums who *supposedly* was throttled and all he had to do is reboot the phone (or switch to edge and back to 3G) to get his speeds back. This was a while ago and I couldn't find the thread at this point but it may work, at least temporary. I never go over so I dont have a way to test it
Good luck.
there is no way to un-cap/throttle yourself when you hit the 5GB limit .. if you have hit it in the middle of the cycle then you are doomed to dial up like speeds for the rest of the cycle.
turning off the phone will not do it and neither will changing the network type cuz you are bound by the computer system that is tied to your number/sim in your account.
and yes the phones are set for mobile view by default which uses about a 3rd less data than full desktop view. So if you took that off or are changing to desktop view then you will use a lot of data for nothing.
if you hit your 5GB limit on the phone and not thru tethering ... you need to lay down the phone every once in awhile.... it'll be good for ya .. promise.
Downloading videos directly to your phone will eat up tons of data. Even if you download on wifi it still uses up your data. After you reach that 5GB plateau you can still use wifi but before you reach that 5GB plateau all wifi DL goes towards your overall data usage. The only way to put videos on your hone is thru your computer. Download on your computer and then hook up your phone to computer and put them directly on your SD Card.
This is obvious to probably everyone here but many think because you are using wifi it doesn't count on usable data. It does. I was throttled because of just that.
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Downloading videos directly to your phone will eat up tons of data. Even if you download on wifi it still uses up your data. After you reach that 5GB plateau you can still use wifi but before you reach that 5GB plateau all wifi DL goes towards your overall data usage. The only way to put videos on your hone is thru your computer. Download on your computer and then hook up your phone to computer and put them directly on your SD Card.
This is obvious to probably everyone here but many think because you are using wifi it doesn't count on usable data. It does. I was throttled because of just that.
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How is it possible for it to count against ya when on wifi? You're not even on TMO's network. I use wifi whenever I am home it doesn't show up at all when I check my account through the website. The CSRs even recommend using wifi when ever possible so you don't go over and get throttled
Ive gone over 5gb in the first 2 days of my billing cycle and have gone up to 30+ gb. Yes I tether. And I still get 3-5mbps dl. Speed test confirmed it and I have no noticeable slowed speed. So I don't believe they slow everyone down. They did optimize the phone to use slower bandwidth but if you watch movies or download them, they eat away at your data
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Browsing or downloading over wireless does not go towards your 5gig cap.
I was just throttled due to going over the limit. I downloaded youtube videos over my RCN wifi connection and it counted against my data consumption. I called into T-Mobile and was told by 2 different people there that data still goes thru the device so it will still count towards usable data. I argued your point forever and they kept telling me just the opposite. I'm going to have to do some testing now.
You guys are correct, wifi does not count on your billable data. I knew that was correct but I was told by two different tech people just the opposite. I finaly went to the tethering dept of T-Mobile and spent 1 hour on the phone with him and he explained it to me without any bull **** that wifi does NOT count as billable data. Thank God. I am sorry if I confused anyone but I thought after speaking to two different tech agents that something had changed. Use your wifi for any downloading or watching anything videos. He broke it down like this,
1 minute of watching any video will use about 3 mb of data.
1 hour of audio will use about 1 mb of data.
PS - these numbers came from the tethering dept. from T-Mobile.
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Ive gone over 5gb in the first 2 days of my billing cycle and have gone up to 30+ gb. Yes I tether. And I still get 3-5mbps dl. Speed test confirmed it and I have no noticeable slowed speed. So I don't believe they slow everyone down. They did optimize the phone to use slower bandwidth but if you watch movies or download them, they eat away at your data
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I thought me hitting 10gbs per billing cycle was bad. I have been throttled down once, and it only lasted a day. My speed was consistently under 100kbps.
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)
styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
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I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.
I'm testing out At&t network to see if the grass is really greener on the other side. So far it is but I'm not allowed to eat as much grass as I want. I'm currently on Sprint with the contract expiring in a few months. I know most of you guys would think this is a slam dunk case. Of course At&t is going to be faster but you gotta live with the limited data and higher price. But you guys don't know that I live in a Sprint Spark city which is Tampa/St Petersburg.
So for the past month while on Sprint, I've been running 4g LTE speed test on my note 2(didn't upgrade to note 3 because no spark antenna) whenever I'm driving to see how much they've improved. Surprisingly, I stay on 4GLTE most of the time and the speed range anywhere from .2Mbps to 24Mbps. I'm getting 12-20 Mbps at home but at work, it is a paltry .2Mbps.
I looked at my data usage last month on Sprint and it was 16GB! The only one that stream video from youtube is my son since he loves to turn off wifi and utililize the 12-17 Mbps LTE. So I blamed that heavy usage on him.
So I got the no contract note 3 for $250 today via FEDEX, set it up and proceeded to run speed test at work. I ran two speed test back to back and got 20Mbps and 17Mbps download speed. Fantastic! Fast like I thought it should be. Then I went and set the data usage limit at 1GB and a warning at 500MB since I signed up for the $50 mobile value share plan (1GB). I glanced down and saw that the two speed test I just ran just consumed 100MB! So much for running speed test head to head against my note 2 on Sprint. Seems I was too quick to blame my son since the speed test I ran on Sprint Note 2 is probably responsible for most of the 16GB usage last month!
So realistically, for 1GB, if I don't stream video and just check email, facebook, web browsing, yelp, google map, will that be enough?
I'm not looking to stay with the mobile value plan because of the tax on top of the $50 plan. I'm switching to Go Phone plan 2.5GB free hot spot plan after I use up my $100 credit for new customer with AT&T. I figured 2.5 gb is plenty since my wife occasionally stream video on her note 3 on Sprint and hardly go over 2gb of usage.
What is you guys typical usage since most of you guys are tech savvy enough to limit background data, disabling sync, notification, etc. I figured 1GB is probably too limited and 2.5 GB should be plenty if I'm not streaming video. I also have plenty of choice for Wifi now that I am both a Brighthouse customer and an AT&T customer.
I use about 2.3 GB per month, most from web browsing at work where there's no wifi.
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I personally use 5-10 gm per month. this is doing anything i want with it and only using wifi at home since i do not have wifi at work (well i do but its filtered and scrubbed)
this would be a few netflix movies, some streaming music through the play store (all access subscriber) and downloading any game/app i want.
What the hell speed test did you run? the Ookla Speedtest.net app uses a 3mb source file.
Also, I don't have a data diet, I have 10gb. I used ~4 last month.
Edit: I don't stream video or audio. I just download (buy) music, surf, Facebook, and download games.
I run Plex, netflix, spotify, Web browsing, facebook, games... pretty much everything. I usually watch one 30 minute tv show over LTE during lunch due to no wireless at work. My usage is around 8gb/month. My wife uses around 1gb since her work has wireless. We use the 10gb plan.
I have been trying to go on a "data diet" since realizing how much I have been using. One thing I am currently trying is PlexPass sync. This allows me to download my TV shows to my device for offline viewing. It's still in beta, and it definitely shows (random unplayable content, breaking its usability). The streaming of Plex works perfectly and I just set the bit rate low to conserve.
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raduque said:
What the hell speed test did you run? the Ookla Speedtest.net app uses a 3mb source file.
Also, I don't have a data diet, I have 10gb. I used ~4 last month.
Edit: I don't stream video or audio. I just download (buy) music, surf, Facebook, and download games.
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Trust me, I'll post screen shot later. The faster your dl and ul speed, the more the Ookla speed test app use. I ran another one at home and got over 20 dl and 7 ul and that tack another 50 MB. On the other hand I streamed Milk music and that only used .5Mb for every minute. Not bad at all.
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I ran three Ookla speedtests and two rootmetric speedtest (7 Mbps not shown). So the higher the speed, the more data it consumes.
i dont watch youtube or stream music/movie.
i use about 1.7gb-1.9gb per month.
i have the old att 2gb plan for 25$.
i just ordered the FreedomPop hotspot, 500mb free data every month.
so now i have 2.5gb a month !
If I don't stream music on Play Music I can stay under 2gb with what I would consider to be "moderately heavy" web browsing (1-2 hours a day maybe) and then crap tons of Hangout messages/texts etc.
If I stream music when i'm driving to work (which I generally do) it goes up to like 3-5gb per month.
I have a 20gb plan with 7 phones for $320 a month, that includes my phone payment and taxes. I use 6 to 8 of the gb myself.
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netnerd said:
i dont watch youtube or stream music/movie.
i use about 1.7gb-1.9gb per month.
i have the old att 2gb plan for 25$.
i just ordered the FreedomPop hotspot, 500mb free data every month.
so now i have 2.5gb a month !
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You know you can be friends with other freedompop users, if you add 10, you get 50MB extra per each friend, making it total 1GB per month for free. But if you get close to 900MB, I heard they cut you off. In your current situation, if you get close to 400MB, you will be cut off.
Also Freedompop uses Sprint's Wi-Max which doesn't have that good coverage. But that depends on where you are.
I'm living with 300MB plan, but I wish I can remove the data completely. I think $20 for 300MB is a rip off.
I have been on a data diet ever since I switched from my 4GB plan 2yr contract to the 2GB value plan with no contract. I usually get speeds up to 25GB/s.
The way I manage is by listening to pandora at work on my work computer on my cell via their wifi... its the only way I can survive programming all day. On saturdays, I still punch about 12 hours on pandora at my side job. Other than that... that is all of my heavy usage. Everything else would only clock about 700MBs a month. ALL OF my updates for apps are done at home on my home wifi since my work wifi doesn't like the stores download packages, its will update some but not all.
Overall i am averaging about 1400 MBs a month. Sometimes just to get my moneys worth... I will purposly DL large so i cap out... even if I don't need it.
I'll bet your 100mb was the phone downloading updates for installed apps? Check Settings -> Data Usage to be sure.
Ookla speed test is ~2.5MB/run
If I don't stream video, I use 250mb/month, plus what I use tethering. I have no idea how people run through 16GB of bandwidth in a month - I don't even do that on my home broadband...
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I'm living with 300MB plan, but I wish I can remove the data completely. I think $20 for 300MB is a rip off.
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Give att a call and tell them you switched to a dumb phone.
Then uncheck the box for Mobile Data from phone.
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Give att a call and tell them you switched to a dumb phone.
Then uncheck the box for Mobile Data from phone.
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Won't work. They have a IMEI database, so they know I'm using a smartphone. Even if you get to take off the data, it'll be added right back on within days.
If I had an international version Note3, that would be a little bit different story. But even then (with unknown IMEI smartphone), they sometimes find out that you have a smartphone, and they slap you with $30 data or whatever charge. It's pure BS.
I'm thinking of moving to AIO wireless once my contract is over. $35 per month with unlimited (throttled data after 500MB) everything.
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I'll bet your 100mb was the phone downloading updates for installed apps? Check Settings -> Data Usage to be sure.
Ookla speed test is ~2.5MB/run
If I don't stream video, I use 250mb/month, plus what I use tethering. I have no idea how people run through 16GB of bandwidth in a month - I don't even do that on my home broadband...
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Nope all apps and therfore the Google play store are downloaded and updated via wifi. Clearly the data usage screen shot showed what used a majority of the 226 Mb. And that was the speed test app and the root metric app. I ran two test shown and it used 100Mb. Ran the third one and it showed 159 Mb used. I got the phone for two days and that is all the data used.
None of this is a big deal. I can effortlessly stayed under 2GB with wifi at work and at home. Just search speed test data hog and you will confirm that it used a lot more than you think. If you're getting 25 Mbps download, it likely used 50 Mb of your data. I ran Speedtest app continuously on my note 2 on sprint and racked up 2.5gb in 7 days. I never paid attention to it until I'm testing at&t. I'm going to switch to the 2.5gb go phone plan anyway so I am sure I can stay under 2.5gb.
Has anyone figured out the best way to enable the wifi tethering capability?
I know on the s4, all the roms came out with this feature, it seems the s5 is still not rooted yet, what is everyone using, exploit or app?
this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
verizon s5 are not allowed to do it..
Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
inebriat3d said:
this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
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donkey poo!!!
I require a real wifi tether, usb and bluetooth are too restrictive and time consuming.
I hope a few of the more experienced devs can chime in on whether this is something to wait for or just return/sell the device immediately?
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Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
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If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
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I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
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Did you try the method 2 posts up?
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No. For the reason of having unlimited data.
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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
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I have Verizon Home Fusion for home internet and I do not have wifi at work. Largest amount of data I can subscribe to per month is 30GB/month, for my home. I'm too far off the road for cable, DSL, and I didn't want Satellite (which still has limits).
I'm grandfathered into unlimited. I use about 30 GB a month tethering, mostly updates for the XBOX One, downloading stuff from the usenet, streaming Netflix or HBO Go to my iPad when I'm at my camper, which is in the woods.
I hope you have an understanding now of how someone can use 30 GB per month.
On an average month, prior to acquiring my GS5, I was using about 45gb of data. That's web surfing, PC and Xbox 360 gaming, and streaming videos. On HEAVY months, I was up around 75gb of data used. My lightest month to date of data usage was 29gb of data. No way in heck I am giving up my unlimited when I have no home landline internet.. This IS my salvation.
Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
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It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
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Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
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Thanks for your reply but I need to activate on the unlimited plan and although when I'm home I don't use that much but when traveling it sure is much cheaper than paying 7-20 bucks a day for WiFi access in some places.... not having root is no good in this particular case especially because I rely on it for work and has never been an issue until now. And giving more money to Verizon is not an options unlimited is already 125 per month
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
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I'm currently still using my n3 cause it's rooted and running my rom. It's got Wi-Fi tether hacked as do most roms.
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What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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Not an option. Took BestBuy up on their trade in offer. Didn't consider this at the time. But for the future, now I will know better...
Hi, have a quick question. I am on a simply everything plan at sprint for 70 bucks a month. But they check if I use the unlimited data with my hotspot. If I tether they limit the data to 3 GB a month and charge if I get over that. Is there a way to get around that?
I don't pay for hotspot but use it uncontrollably... With Sprint. I've been doing it for years without any issues. Paying the phone bill is my only problem... LOL.
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I don't pay for hotspot but use it uncontrollably... With Sprint. I've been doing it for years without any issues. Paying the phone bill is my only problem... LOL.
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yes I know, but you are in an old contract. I have that 70 dollar everything contract. And my phone sends it to sprint, how I use my data. I like to know, if there is a way around or if there is a custom rom out there, which addresses this already?
No way to bypass carrier monitoring your bandwidth. Use of XDA to try to steal from carriers, no matter how unhappy we may be with them, is frowned upon too. :highfive:
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No way to bypass carrier monitoring your bandwidth. Use of XDA to try to steal from carriers, no matter how unhappy we may be with them, is frowned upon too. :highfive:
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So, explain to me where the difference is when I use 20gb on my phone watching youtube or netflix or what ever OR streaming the internet onto my notebook and watch the 20gb there?
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So, explain to me where the difference is when I use 20gb on my phone watching youtube or netflix or what ever OR streaming the internet onto my notebook and watch the 20gb there?
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Up to the carrier, I am assuming you're referring to these offers that allow the customers to stream from certain sites without penalty? Again, you would have to contact them to clarify.
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Up to the carrier, I am assuming you're referring to these offers that allow the customers to stream from certain sites without penalty? Again, you would have to contact them to clarify.
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No, they have free data on the phone. But limit to 3gb when streaming onto other devices. I have already paid for the gbs.
I am not sure how cdma carriers route traffic. I know that gsm carriers rought traffic through APNs. Tether data is sent through a different APN than regular data. The file /system/etc/apns.conf has your default APNs for your carrier. Editing the tether APN to match the primary APN will route traffic so that tether is not detected partially. Then you will need to change the user agent string in your browser or use a vpn to mask the user agent string so that the carrier does not detect Windows browsers. There is also the tether_dun_required=0 entry in a DB file that needs to be set. And finally in /system/build.prop add this line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
Something like that...
Did anyone find a way around this
I am on the 60 dollar plan and they are trying to force me to the 70 dollar with the tethering cap because i have a nexus 6p I am beginning to hate sprint i just started to do this because where i use to live i got no service and had to pay 40 dollar a month for wifi now that i get service I figured id use the tether well they say im using too much data and is trying to force me on to this plan I think I will soon be on ATT PREPAID BECAUSE I Am not going to deal with this crap.
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I am on the 60 dollar plan and they are trying to force me to the 70 dollar with the tethering cap because i have a nexus 6p I am beginning to hate sprint i just started to do this because where i use to live i got no service and had to pay 40 dollar a month for wifi now that i get service I figured id use the tether well they say im using too much data and is trying to force me on to this plan I think I will soon be on ATT PREPAID BECAUSE I Am not going to deal with this crap.
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Come try T-Mobile. It's nice over here.