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Ringtones Cease Working

I've recently run into an odd error. Suddenly, the only ring that work is T-Mobile Defualt (sounds like a piano). I previously was using OldPhone.wma for the default ringtone with a few .MP3s for some contacts.
If I try using either Phone or Sound and Notifications in the Settings, it won't allow me to choose any other ring. If I do, it sets its back to Windows Default and further, neither app will close. I have to use the start menu to return to the Today screen.
I just installed the Custom Profile freeware app. This app recognizes all the old rings and plays them within it's own app but doesn't effect the phone when it rings. Basically, I'm stuck with this 1-ringtone.
I did some searching and noticed some apps might interfere with this. The only music-oriented app I've installed in iMusic, but I've since removed it and still no luck. I also tried the Ringtone Reg Hack to move the ringers to the Storage Card, but that's not working either. Is it possible to Phone and Sounds and Notifications apps are corrupt?

There is a good chance that Windows Media Player has lost its file association to .wma
To test if this is the cause of the problem, go to Start>Settings>Phone and change the Ringtone to something else. Before clicking 'ok' try to press play and see if it actually plays. If not, then WMP losing the association is probably the cause of the problem.
Keep us updated on your problem. If this is the problem, and you want help restoring the associations, just reply here
cya

I failed to mention what you just said in my original post. The play button does not play the file; however, the Profile app does (I know you didn't ask that, just thought I'd mention it). How might I restore the associations and did this happen as a result of installing iMusic 2.10?
Thanks!

I did a Google search and figured out how to change the file associations via Resco File Explorer. Thanks!
Since you were so quick to respond, can you take a look at this threadhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44173? I'm have no e-mail at the moment.

Sorry, I can't help with regards to the other post.... I am not sure what the problem is.
I would suggest investing in Sprite Backup v5.1 as that is far more reliable.
I would suggest when you restore a backup after a ROM upgrade that you only restore your personal files and PIM; restoring programs or system files may cause problems like this
By the way, is the ringtone problem solved? I was going to ask you to use the attached CAB file to correct the extensions as Resco Explorer does not do it properly:

muting

Hi. Im having a problem with my T-mobile MDA but using a cingular sim. Using prepaid account. I want it to go all silent, so when i use it in class, theres no sound.
I've turned the volume to off but whenever I send a text message theres a sound that plays right after it sends. I have turned all the sound in the settings/sounds and notifications folder and unchecked all of the boxes in the sound and notifications tab. right after that i tried sending a text message again. Again, I get this message from cingular telling me how much money i still got on my account, and it plays a sound along with it. I found out that its the "Notify" sound. so I went back to the notifications tab and selected every single event to play a different sound. After that I tried to check again and sent a text message... and the sound still plays.
've done all I try that I would know of but i cant seem to make that sound disappear. maybe someone can find out a way to fix this? maybe something to edit in the registry? Thanks much!
Bryan

I believe the only way to accomplish what you want would be to replace the notify sound with an empty sound file. I'm not entirely sure where the file is located, but I believe it was in the Windows folder somewhere.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42022&highlight=disable+system+sounds

hmmm i tried what they said... and its weird the sound now turned into a small beep but still audible. i tried overwriting notify.wav with a no sound file and but it now changed into a beep. kinda hard not to get noticed specially when the whole class is quiet. im starting to have doubts with my phone. cant even go on full silent mode.

Did you replace it with:
A) simply a 0-byte text file renamed to a .wav
B) an actual .wav file complete with headers and such?
The reason I ask is because I assume if the system tries to play the file described as "A)" it will beep because it is missing the headers and isn't actually a valid .wav

i tried doing different stuff
1. making a wav file out of a text document and just renaming the file extension.
2. making a wav file with no sound using a sound recorder.
there are some things that i noticed. when i changed "notify.wav" by overwriting it with a wav file with the same name from my desktop, the sound produced changed into "Voicbeep.wav". i figured that it can only play sounds from the windows folder that cant be deleted.
so the only thing i was able to do was pick one of the wav files thats originally in the windows folder that made the least attention catching, and short, (ones that cant be deleted), copied it to my desktop. then renamed it to Voicbeep.wav since it was the sound being played ever since i messed with notify.wav. its less annoying now... but still audible.
sucks that this phone cant be turned fully silent.

Unfortunately, I'm not on prepaid so I can't reproduce your situation and try to fix it on my phone.
Good luck man, I know how it can be when a small thing that should be so easy to fix just won't go away.

its alright. at least something was done to remedy the situation. i appreciate it much aron7awol. thanks a lot

hurrah! i was able to fix it! well to anybody who gets any problems with sounds that play even if the phone is in mute mode and if that sound is found in the windows folder follow these steps to get rid of it.
things you'll need:
total commander
a no sound wav file
lets say the file i want to turn off is: notify.wav
steps:
1. on your computer rename the wav file to the name of the file you want to replace or turn silent. (this case notify.wav)
2. transfer the notify.wav into any folder in your phone
3. use total commander to transfer the file in the windows folder.
(in the thread thats previously posted, it all ends here)
4. using total commander, select the file and select properties.
5. check the system box. (i think this was the only thing unmentioned) but oh well... i think this would work good for any other system file that you want to erase
*if you dont check the system box, it will find a different system wav file to play instead*
voila! sound is replaced and wont play again

nice one mate....worked for me

custom alarms?

on my G1 i was able to record something via a voice recorder app (it saved as .3gp) and place that file into my sdcard/audio/alarms and the alarm clock would pick it up as something that could be my alarm.
it doesn't do that for the n1, but the other notifications/mail alerts/ringtones all show up. any ideas why the clock doesn't pick it up from the sd card?

First, I'm not sure about that format, so I can't help with that. But did you place the file in /sdcard/audio/alarms/?

Doesn't it need to be /sdcard/media/audio/alarms? Pretty sure it does.

it didnt matter where for me, as long as a usable audio file was in a folder called "alarms", it'd show up as a choice on my G1 - no "media" folder or anything else needed, but it would work inside the media/alarms folder, too.
Haven't gotten that far on my N1 yet... I can't stop just staring at the screen.
This thing's a true work of art... I've had it for 2 full days and I'm still in such awe at the GUI and screen that I haven't done something as simple as adding my own ringtones/notification tones/alarm tones, etc...

Phone freezes when I navigate to the music tab

Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.

mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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You flashed HSPL, but not a new rom?
I would start by putting just one or two mp3's on your phone's onboard storage, then pulling the card out, soft-resetting, and then seeing if your music tab finds and is able to play those couple of mp3's without locking up.
If it works fine then, you're probably experiencing the same issue many HD2 owners have been dealing with when accessing a large volume of files on the SD card. There's a number of suspected causes, mainly relating to the fact that the music (and documents) tab(s) index the whole contents of the card to find and catalog those types of files for quick use in the tabs. Therefore, a large number of files on the card seem to bog down not just those tabs but often the whole phone.
Another cause is believed to be the fact the factory card shipped with the HD2 is only a class-2 card, the slowest of all the speed ratings. If you have access to a faster card (class-4, -6, etc), even if it's a smaller size card, try that and see if it improves things any. If not, then your only other option right now is to reduce the number of files on your card until it doesn't lock up when sense tries to index it all. It's rumored that there's an update coming shortly from HTC/Tmobile, and I'm hoping that it might address this issue, but I'm not holding my breath.
I personally believe that the code used to do that indexing just isn't able to scale to the volumes of files seen now in the larger SD cards.
EDIT: Also, if you're not using it, be sure to turn off the "recent documents" tab...I don't know that it will clear up the problems with the music tab, but it can possibly help avoid lagging overall.

I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?

mobi said:
I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?
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I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.

sirphunkee said:
I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.
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Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!

toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Ok cool, thank you! I hadn't heard about that one, so I'll go look for it and see if it gives me any insight. Did you have TF3D (the older version of sense) on your Wing, with a music tab? Maybe this is behavior that HTC added to sense at some point, with the same exact intent in mind...

you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab

jfmckenna said:
you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab
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Sweet! Thanks again Jimmy...I'm gonna dig into this when I get home this evening, and poke around in the registry area it changes (HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HTCService).
I'm curious if it just does the same thing as turning off the documents tab, or if turning off the service is a wider-reaching change. Since this is the personal handiwork of NRG, I'll ping him too, but I know he's busy.

there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948

samsamuel said:
there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948
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Hahaha thanks Sam...I JUST finished reading over the same thread LOL Very helpful, and it's given me some further insights into this.
toreone, the first think I noticed common to your problem and the one in the thread samsamuel posted is that your music has a rather deep file structure (4 layers deep). I haven't seen anybody mention that in the troubleshooting, so it might be worth seeing if the same volume of music, but no more than 2 folders deep, still gives the same issue.
Also, in that thread, sammybusse made and posted the cab below, which makes simple registry change related to chacheing: HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS
EnableChache 1 (changed from 0 to 1). So, perhaps the problem stems from the fact that it wasn't chacheing, rather than doing it too aggressively..
I haven't had a chance yet to poke around with it, but I think it's certainly safe enough to try and see if it makes any difference for you (it helped some people in that thread).
Another solution tried there, that had some level of success, was making sure you don't have any of the mp3's set as "read only"

toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.

mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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Try to sync your music with Windows Media Player. This worked for me.

Nibbley15 said:
Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.
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Nibbley, when I did this, for some reason the file would only be renamed as AudioManager_Eng.lnk.exe. And once you do it, you can't seem to delete the file. Just a heads up.

do you have a more detailed way for doing this?

mobi said:
do you have a more detailed way for doing this?
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Here you go I created a shortcut and made a cab to put it in start up. Let me know how it works

Changing the startup/shutdown media

I would like to change the startup and shutdown image and audio for the Vibrant. Does anyone know who to do this?
Thank you.

Yeah I have to plug in headphones or cover the phone when rebooting. I hate the loud shutdown/startup.

I'm pretty sure you have to root the phone first because those files are stored on the phone's internal storage which is protected normally. I really hate those sounds... I can deal with the silly T-Mobile crap...

Any progress on this?

Well it was easy enough to find the shutdown audio file,
(/system/media/audio/ui/Shutdown_128.ogg)
but I'm still looking for the startup audio file (which seems louder I think). I'll confess that I haven't really tried as I don't have much time. Anyways, you first need to root the phone (easy, and it's on this forum), then I REALLY recommend downloading Root Explorer. You can find it on the market. It costs 2.50 Euros I believe, but it's well worth it. SuperUser will ask you for permission for "Root Explorer" have permission. Just say yes. Anyways, navigate to the location above and just delete the Shutdown_128.ogg file and that's it! No more annoying shutdown song. Someone look for the start up one too cuz I don't like it. Also, the t-mo animations during startup and shutdown are located at "/system/media/video/shutdown". They are all .png files and there are about 14 or so of them, and I don't know how the phone handles them so back them up before you mess with them.
On another note, since you already have "Root Explorer" installed, it would be cool to choose your own ringtones from the available "Ringtones" options in the settings, right? To do this, just navigate to "/system/media/audio/ringtones" and delete all the crappy ringtones from there and replace with your own edited mp3 ringtones. Same goes for the notifications in the notification folder.
Still not sure how to make the phone stop playing ringtones low at first, then loud. But like I said...no time.
UPDATE
Found it. It's in "/system/etc". It's called "PowerOn.wav". Just move or delete it.

Shut up the stupid
Alternatively, if you are a haptic-only or a no touch input feedback user you could go to:
Settings->Sound & Display->System volume
...and turn it all the way down.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732311

The startup file is in \etc\PowerOn.wav
Just rename it to something else (e.g. PowerOn.wav.bak), and you won't get the startup sound.
There is also a thread in the Vibrant Dev forum about completely removing the shutdown graphic. All this is easy if you're rooted.