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I have tried a few browsers pie, opera, minimo etc and I find ftx Pbrowser best - small size not like those massive installs, fast and proper tabs. the only thing it does not do is download files but don't do that much any how. give it a go interested in your feedback
p.s. it also does'nt have the annoying keyboard pop up problem that pie does!
Far better than the recently released webby mobile (could not remember its name earlier ) and does go full screen and landscape mode and clear type for those that use it. U can tell I like this program
May we have some screenshot ? Thanks
Screen shots at this link
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=686
is this better then the Mini Mozilla browser? for some reason, it took FOREVER to load for me so i uninstalled it. it also took up a lot of space too.
Sorry hard to see how it took a lot of space its only 75kb in size. just place the file in program files on your storage card its a stand alone aplication it needs no install. mine loads in less than a second and favorites come up quicker than pie.
I think he meant the 10 MB mini Mozilla browser. I heard that this file (ftx Pbrowser) is only a shell around PIE. So the tabs etc are in the ftx Pbrowser file, but the engine is normal PIE.
Yep it is a shell for pie but I particularly like the tabs, makes it more like firefox. oh yes I see minmo took forever to load for me to - certainly not minimal!
Looks good, I'll try it!!
It workd really well, there is still need for improvment , but the tab browsing is well done and I would love to see it when its more devloped.
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It workd really well, there is still need for improvment , but the tab browsing is well done and I would love to see it when its more devloped.
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Has anyone tried PIEPlus lately? http://www.reensoft.com/PIEPlus/
This also has tabs, etc. I used it some eons ago but not recently. Doesn't say if it's WM5 capable.
I know ranchosteve there is room for improvement will try and contact developer see if he will reconsider finishing product off
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I know ranchosteve there is room for improvement will try and contact developer see if he will reconsider finishing product off
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Let us know if he replies, this is very promising browser! Needs finishing off but still useful.
I have a bed feeling the programmer has completely gone, the last version was over 2 years ago.
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"ranchosteve" said:
It workd really well, there is still need for improvment , but the tab browsing is well done and I would love to see it when its more devloped.
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Has anyone tried PIEPlus lately? http://www.reensoft.com /PIEPlus/
This also has tabs, etc. I used it some eons ago but not recently. Doesn't say if it's WM5 capable.
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the latest version of pieplus v2 supports wm5 and works well on the wizard theres a 14day trial as well
anyone else tried this
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Yes I have tried PiePlus on my Jasjar. It certainly is WM5 compatible and they say so on their website.
However apart from adding tabs I don't see much in way of enhancing the capabilities of the PIE. My personal opinion is that it is not worth the money. But again this is just my personal opinion. Best is you try the 14 day trial period.
Regards
new pieplus is great, except something weird happened, my address bar went away and no way to get it back...so to go to a site, i have to add to favs, and im not in full screen mode either, anyone know a work around?
I like the program but when I went to fullscreen mode I can get it bacc to normal. Any Help?
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I like the program but when I went to fullscreen mode I can get it bacc to normal. Any Help?
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i think its the same problem im having...
ive been using mini opera as well as the built in pie....I think opera handles some sites better than pie...and uses less bandwidth
In case anyone cares... you can get the latest flash plugin (7.0) for ppc at macromedias web site
Ftx is certainly showing its age (I used to use it on some of my older devices). I have been using NetFront 3.3 (Trial) and it's been pretty good - not as fast as Opera Beta 2 but certainly faster than PIE.
Quick question. Has anybody developed the IE scroll for the PPC/WM5? Second has anybody developed the open and close of applications animations?
Thanks in advance.
IE scroll --> don't know
Animate window is in Tweaks2K2 .NET , but I don't know ,is it ok for you , just try
looking for a free app, heard of tweaks2.net but would rather not pay.
actually, something that animates smoothly like the iphone and scroll are available. The one I've just heard about is itask over at the Lakeridge website. It works with wisbar I think. And as for the scrolling effect. It depends. If you just want that in your contacts list, there are a couple here like icontact or contacts manager that has the finger scrolling effect. But if you wanted it in all programs like Internet explorer, you might want to check out the touchflo stuff. Its ripped from the HTC touch device, but they have gotten it working on the wizard already, but it still has its bugs. Try it out and make the decision yourself. Hope that helps
the program PIE has a screen drag for internet explorer
Picture Scroller
Is there anything Like the Iphone Picture scroller available?
Thanks for the replys, I saw itask, im not running wisebar (wanting to see what I can do with freebies for a while). I used Icontact for a while, had some issues scrolling and clicking contacts etc.
I cant find that PIE app (searched google and mainly get..well pies..lol)
im searching out the touchflo now, but not seeing Apache, missing something?
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I cant find that PIE app (searched google and mainly get..well pies..lol)
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Try searching for 'Pocket Internet Explorer', I believe that is what it is called (although I don't use it. I use picsel browser at the minute with my iPhone theme)
You don't need Wisbar Advance to use iTask. It uses Macromedia Flash 7 and Mort Script to work which is entirely free.
PIE is "Pocket Internet Explorer" which is built into most Pocket PCs today. What you need to look for is PIE Plus which uses PIE and adds tabbed browsing, finger scrolling and lots of other goodies. It's not free but worth it. Wisbar is also worth it for that matter as it is inexpensive
Whatg would you guys say is the most like the Safari browser? I have only used Picsel but have heard of opera mini 4 being like safari, and also deepfish.
iTask is pretty awesome unto it self, (im gunna play with it..lol), but im more looking to use the standard application of the phone and just add the animation when opening or closing windows.
PIE Plus seems to be exactly what I want in regards to the internet apps, but dont want to pay for it..Anybody know of another free app?
^^I'd love the transitions from itask, but on wisbar.
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^^I'd love the transitions from itask, but not in wisbar.
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I edited your post...LOL
Why did you do that. I think I would want the same thing delude wants.
I want those iTask transition animations to work on Wisbar Advanced Desktop
Meaning I wouldn't need iTask anymore.
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Why did you do that. I think I would want the same thing delude wants.
I want those iTask transition animations to work on Wisbar Advanced Desktop
Meaning I wouldn't need iTask anymore.
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:scratches head: it was a joke, I didnt actually edit his post.
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Here is the Link to Opera Mobile's FTP Server to Download the New Beta of Opera Mobile 7 Beta 1:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
I'm Downloading and Installing it now.....Will update you all soon.
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I installed it on my QVGA HTC Touch WM 6.1 (Build 21014) on the SD Card and
It Loads without any lag, Fairly fast. Renders and loads pages Pretty well too. No Major issues so far. Graphics and UI look pretty good. I still have to load the Widget Manager and try it out, never was a big fan of these. I will attempt to post some screen shots, but I am at work and may not be able to.
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KNOWN BETA ISSUES:
Browser
Opera Turbo in Opera Mobile is still a preview-feature;
Downloads don't work while Opera Turbo is enabled.
Some settings (such as toggle on/off images) do not apply when Opera Turbo is enabled.
On older WM 5.0 Devices with 480x800 resolution, switching between portrait and landscape may cause display errors. This is due to lack of support for this resolution in early versions of Microsoft's driver.
Some input method editors are known not to work well with Opera because they do not comply with Microsoft's SIP and/or IME standard. When such an editor is detected by Opera, Opera will use a known (default) input method instead. An exception is EzInput v1.5, where the phone keypad and compact QUERTY, ABC mode doesn't work, but the rest of the modes work fine. We recommend upgrading to EzInput v2.0 to avoid this.
Only support for FlashLite 3.x. No Flash plugin included.
Widget manager add-on
The Widget manager is an add-on to the browser, so the browser must be installed in order for the widget manager to work.
We recommend disabling Opera Turbo in the browser when using the widget manager.
Rotating widgets does not work properly. Portrait mode should be used when running widgets.
Widgets + Plugins (Flash & Gears) don't work.
Clicking internal links in a widget will launch the browser.
Twitter widget might have login problems on first run. If this happens, just close the Twitter widget (X) and open it again.
omg omg omg
downloading..
ill post screensnhots
haha good thing i didn't go to sleep will try and put screen shots too.
omg it has lag!
looks like its not made for all resolutions
qvga looks freaking weird and lags bad :S
Just downloaded an testing ... another link in megaupload with the two cabs: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OWRCCJ4Q
Yeah I installed it a few minutes ago.
It's just a mess. I guess it isn't for QVGA? Anyone with a VGA device have it working right?
lags bad... :S
yea me too just installed it n it didn't even load.
Hopefully they fix this or it will be an extremely disappointing release
It's awesome on my ATT Fuze (VGA), no flash if people care, also the turbo mode seems to load mobile pages perhaps
Are you guys even using the right cab? I did a little research with the folders on the opera.com domain and got to this:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
Download the first cab.
I just tried it on my qvga device and its amazing. NO lag. It runs. Nothing seems messed up. Scrolling is EXTREMELY smooth, it's as smooth as the omnia versions but doesn't suffer with the auto-full screen bug and it doesnt lock up while loading as well.
Opera turbo works, though its disabled by default.
So far, i absolutely LOVE it!
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Are you guys even using the right cab? I did a little research with the folders on the opera.com domain and got to this:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
Download the first cab.
I just tried it on my qvga device and its amazing. NO lag. It runs. Nothing seems messed up. Scrolling is EXTREMELY smooth, as smooth as the omnia versions.
Opera turbo works, though its disabled by default.
So far, i absolutely LOVE it!
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I have to agree with zeuzinn, So far it's great on my QVGA Touch. The Link I provided is the only one I found.
This is awesome. Was just wondering about this and was about to go to sleep. Then I hit the New Posts Button. Installing on my Topaz right now.
I gotta say, its MUCH faster than opera 9.5 even with opera turbo disabled, thanks to the new rendering engine.
I just tried the ACID3 test and got 100/100!!!!
can i please get a link to the VGA version ??
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can i please get a link to the VGA version ??
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This is the only version posted on Opera's FTP as of now.
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This is the only version posted on Opera's FTP as of now.
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so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
What's the difference between the two on the FTP?
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so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
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I am assuming so, I have a QVGA device and it looks great, but I thought someone else said it worked on VGA too???
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so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
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umm i think it has both versions in there how ever you can try this one ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/ when i look in the folder i saw a VGA sub folder in there so idk.
Hi there!
Could anyone owning a HD2 check how SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is running on it?
Software Trial:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
That's an interesting question. I have just put SPB MS 3.5 on my TP and it completely disabled my Touchflo. If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
I've had MS on every windows device I've ever owned (5 of them) yet this might be the first time I stick with TF3D....the new 'sense' as it's being called looks so good it might just be the thing that I want.
TF3D was all form and no fucntion, it was far to difficult to perform any real use and just increased the number of presses and swipes needed to actually do anything. The new one doesn't seem to suffer the same thing....but I'll only be able to tell once I get my hands on it
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If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
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Why would it stop the screen working?
vangrieg said:
Why would it stop the screen working?
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WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
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the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
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What would a lite version of the Leo ROM actually include if Sense is ripped out?
Tomo1340 said:
WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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TouchFlo is ONLY a front screen interface and in no way takes over the control of your device from Windows Mobile. Im sure the correct drivers and everything are in place to make the capacitive screen work perfectly with WM6.5 or you wouldnt be able to run any of the standard Windows Mobile Programs from the Start Menu.
TouchFlo can easily be disabled through the Today screen settings and other front screen interfaces such as Mobile Shell run in its place. The 2 cannot run side by side but as with any other phone you can turn 1 off and start another quite easily.
The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.
Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
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The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.
Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
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But it's a UI enhancement designed to increase usability on a device with a capacitive screen. Without the new version of Manila you won't necessarily have access to the HTC-skinned versions of WM6.5 utilities, which means you'll be back to using software that is designed to be used with a stylus on a platform that doesn't support stylus use.
I only took a short glimpse into a Leo ROM, and it's different from, say, Topaz/Rhodium ones in that Manila is broken into more packages (Core, Music, Settings, Footprints etc.). So it might theoretically be possible to use just some Manila features if someone bothers to actually investigate the opportunities and do an insane amount work required to materialize them.
Fair comments, I was under the impression that the drivers were part of HTC sense. Also that HTC sense is designed to not be turned off so easy. So from that I drew a natural conclusion that if you were able to turn Sense off, or an application forced it off like SPB MS3.5 does then that would make the drivers not function as they were part of the working Sense UI.
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The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
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On my TYTN2 with WM 6.5.1.23053, there's no overlay with MS3.5. Not sure what build of MS you are using but for me it's just fine.
I have tested MS3.5 on Acer F1 (same CPU as HD2) and it was very smooth. However, when going in landscape, it was slower than my TYTN2 in landscape. It could be a graphic driver issue, which I hope won't be on HD2.
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
WildWayz said:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
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MD2? I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL
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MD2? I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL
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Sorry meant HD2.
I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.
One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...
I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
oh no, not again! no drivers......
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Sorry meant HD2.
I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.
One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...
I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
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I guess it depends how spb makes use of hardware acceleration enabled devices. With it turned off it should still run very fast and smooth so not too much to worry about i think. You should install one of my MS3.5 themes (in my sig) and see how it looks I think it would look nice with ProPlus Elegance and all the extra widgets
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oh no, not again! no drivers......
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The HD2 has OpenGL drivers as proved in this stress test against the original HD *HERE*
WildWayz said:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
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Cool WildWayz! Thanks a lot, I'm just happy that it works and doesn't have quirks of one or the other kind
Yes you should try and mess around with some of mskip's stuff if you like
Maybe you can say how the general feel is? Speed/smoothness -how is it on the capacitive screen? And I don't know if you intend to keep on using it -but it would be very interesting to hear if there is an effect on battery life..
cheers!
Is it possible to make the scrolling more smooth? (Maybe like the iphone?)
an app or ROM that can do it maybe?
can you give us more information? which handset are you using? with which ROM?
I dont have a wm phone yet
I just watched the Iphone vs WM 6.5 from pocketnow and he said that scrolling on the iphone is just SO Smooth, and on the wm 6.5 its a little "Natchy".
So i just wandered if we could Customize the scrolling ability in wm6.5 to make it more Smooth?
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I dont have a wm phone yet
I just watched the Iphone vs WM 6.5 from pocketnow and he said that scrolling on the iphone is just SO Smooth, and on the wm 6.5 its a little "Natchy".
So i just wandered if we could Customize the scrolling ability in wm6.5 to make it more Smooth?
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There are a few programs that allow for kinetic scrolling which is found on the iPhone. Many custom and official roms have this built in of course. The video you may have been watching probably showed a rom without a scrolling driver/program. FTouchSL is a program that allows this.
Scrolling smoothness depends on processing speed of the device itself. I have a HTC Touch and scrolling in menu and lists is jerky at default CPU speed(200Mhz). When i overclock it, the scrolling appears much more fluid (btw, my ELFin goes up to 300Mhz!! Even 308 works but i use it at 300 )
Actually the differences between the iPhone and WM6.5 aren't that different.
Scrolling on the WM6.5 has kinetic scrolling built in. The difference is that Windows Mobile will change the scrolling depending on what app you are using. Most scrolling is EXACTLY like the iPhone.
The "notching" effect is only found in the later builds of the Start Menu where when you FLICK... it only scrolls one page at a time... verses scrolling all the way to the bottom... similar to the iPhones homescreen where you flick to go to the next page of app icons.
With WM6.5 you don't need any type of additional scrolling as it is already smooth and fluid. Stock WM6.5 drivers are even better then that of FTouchSL and HTC Gestures.
Few days ago a guy at work asked me whether you can even use the touch screen on Windows Mobile because he thought that's only possible with iphone. That's so RIDICULOUS (my favourite word as of recently). But I guess we can blame it on MS for launching 6.5 way too late....
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Few days ago a guy at work asked me whether you can even use the touch screen on Windows Mobile because he thought that's only possible with iphone. That's so RIDICULOUS (my favourite word as of recently). But I guess we can blame it on MS for launching 6.5 way too late....
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I'd blame it on apple for their brainwashing of the most of the population, including looking at that latest lawsuit themselves, into believing that they are teh only ones to do anything at all ever..
Regardless of any kinetic scrolling present in Windows Mobile 6.5 or later, there really is nothing out there that will let the default WinMo apps scroll as consistently smooth as an iPhone, not even on my HD2.
There are some third party apps with excellent smooth scrolling built in (Like Resco Explorer 2010), but if you want the start menu, WinMo contacts, messaging, File Explorer etc. to have perfect smooth scrolling - it's not going to happen.
It's not terrible by any means, but you'll get the occasionally hiccup or lost frame or pause. And it doesn't seem like its running at full frame rate either - but most of the time it runs pretty well. Certainly not anything to lose sleep over
Well you can always get some Cooked ROM like Dutty`s ... I could say that it is better than my original ROM was. And I mean in all terms.
Coincidently, i have a related doubt. Is it possible to make scrolling in WM 6.5.X more fluid and bouncy like in WM 6.5 by replacing some registry setting or file?
I would like to know this too,I dont think its possible.
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Coincidently, i have a related doubt. Is it possible to make scrolling in WM 6.5.X more fluid and bouncy like in WM 6.5 by replacing some registry setting or file?
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Just install this cab
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Im using the ROM from my Signature so its a 6.5 Build and like some peoples here say the drivers are already includet in the 6.5 Builds but i search in the rom and i found that file PhysicsEngine.ddl in my windows directory the file was only 20kb
So i download the cab scrolling bouncing 6.5.x.cab and i saw in the cab that here just have the same PhysicsEngine.ddl but its a bit diferent and is 23 KB not 20 like in my ROM.
I install the CAB and i don`t know do is placibo effect but now the scrolling is even better, so my question is from withch ROM you extract this ddl file and maybe have diference in the this files so when this is a bigger size its mean that is a bit diferent.. because if was the same size 20kb this mean is the same.
Also if this is right we can extract this ddl from the very very latest 6.5 Buld witch is posible to be more up to date and the ddl file to be even better.
It seems to me my scroll is also become better. Before it was often, that then I started to scroll, the phone recognized it as a touch and lunched what was under the finger. Now then I scroll – it scroll, then I touch – it touch.
wow
this makes scrolling much better.
Good POST
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Just install this cab
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This does noticeably affect how this scrolls. Thanks so much for the cab. I am running an NRG ROM, and it has most definitely improved my scrolling abilities. GOOD WORK!!!
It's certainly better. Anyways, I once used a ROM which had a really, really smooth Windows menu. Just as smooth as iphone. But I forgot which ROM it was. I have no clue why it was so smooth : (
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Can I use this on my T-Mobile HD2 (USA) Stock ROM?
Thanks!
Test and let us know