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T-mobile MDA Pro for £ 145.00

T-mobile MDA Pro for £ 145.00 on 12 month contract!
Admittedly, the monthly plan is quite expensive, but there are seemingly many variations of contracts at so so prices....if you need a new contract anyway. Worth considering for some people.
read more here: http://www.txtin.com/1048_T-Mobile_Pay_Monthly_Mobile_Phones_Contract.html

Do T-Mobile actually offer 3G data services in the UK for non business users?

you can get it for £49.99 here
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/473/330//b9ba7f9a56b4681f198b265373696eff
Owning both Orange and Vodafone datacards I still remain COMPLETELY unconvinved by 3G though.

Seems so. click the link above then follow the link at the bottom of that page 'All tariffs and promotions'. There it is explained what data tariff bundles one can get.

Yep, if you stick a normal, everyday T-Mobile sim in a 3G phone in the UK, then you'll be able to transfer data at 3G rates.
As far as I know they haven't sorted out video calling yet but it's "on it's way" (although I don't think I know anyone with a videophone anyway).

hah ha! "transfer at 3g rates" - that'll be the same as gprs and less reliable then!
3g is fine, if you're sat next to the mast, with no-one else sharing the connection, as soon as you get multiple users the data rate drops and connectivity issues rise. Its sh*te, especially if you are running apps that need a steady connection.

hah ha! "transfer at 3g rates" - that'll be the same as gprs and less reliable then!
3g is fine, if you're sat next to the mast, with no-one else sharing the connection, as soon as you get multiple users the data rate drops and connectivity issues rise. Its sh*te, especially if you are running apps that need a steady connection.

3G on T-Mobile
sub69 said:
Yep, if you stick a normal, everyday T-Mobile sim in a 3G phone in the UK, then you'll be able to transfer data at 3G rates.
As far as I know they haven't sorted out video calling yet but it's "on it's way" (although I don't think I know anyone with a videophone anyway).
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Got my 3G enabled on my UK T-M account. I'm now Video Calling like there's no tomorrow
Not sure how to get high-speed internet access though.....
Peace

3G on T-Mobile
sub69 said:
Yep, if you stick a normal, everyday T-Mobile sim in a 3G phone in the UK, then you'll be able to transfer data at 3G rates.
As far as I know they haven't sorted out video calling yet but it's "on it's way" (although I don't think I know anyone with a videophone anyway).
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Got my 3G enabled on my UK T-M account. I'm now Video Calling like there's no tomorrow
Not sure how to get high-speed internet access though.....
Peace

griZlyadams said:
hah ha! "transfer at 3g rates" - that'll be the same as gprs and less reliable then!
3g is fine, if you're sat next to the mast, with no-one else sharing the connection, as soon as you get multiple users the data rate drops and connectivity issues rise. Its sh*te, especially if you are running apps that need a steady connection.
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Compared to GPRS, I find UMTS significantly quicker on my Nokia, but that's probably just luck...
SuperDDD said:
Got my 3G enabled on my UK T-M account. I'm now Video Calling like there's no tomorrow...
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Didn't realise video calling worked, How did you get that set up? And how/how much do they charge for it??

sub69 said:
Didn't realise video calling worked, How did you get that set up? And how/how much do they charge for it??
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It has to be enabled on your account I think.
Bless

sub69 said:
Didn't realise video calling worked, How did you get that set up? And how/how much do they charge for it??
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15p/min to another UK T-M number
50p/min to other UK networks
Blessings

Straight Answer on US Carrier Support

All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)

Answers so far ((so you don't have to go searching for them!))
1) T-Mobile & ATT
1a) Wisconsin -ATT | Chicago - ATT
2) Edge = ok
2a) No - Wisconsin, Chicago
2b)
3) No hacks needed - plug in SIM card, possibly might have to select network from list
3a)
4) Problems sending MMS on AT&T. 99% send then fail.
5)

I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.

ismisunderstood said:
All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)
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The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.

I am in Chicago area on AT&T and it works fine. No 3G data but edge is fine. I am streaming video using a slingbox and it works ok.

Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Canaan said:
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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it's both the phone and network's fault, the phone for not having UMTS 850, 1700, or 1900. And the networks for choosing those frequencies over umts 900 and 2100.

Canaan said:
Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Wow, a little full of yourself there? It's not like I climbed towers and decided to put 850 bands in America.
I believe if I made a $750 purchase, I would know whether or not the phone was capable of picking up US 3G bands or not.
But I guess your right, I should move to Europe to take advantage of the "adequate" networks.
There is no need to be a jerk about it.
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I'm using mine on ATT, use mostly wifi which has been good, EDGE is good the few times I've used it (based on what I've heard from people using 3G on other phones, it's not that much better than wifi, but I'm sure that's location dependent). I'm using it in NC and surrounding states, have only sent/received MMS a couple of times but haven't had any problems yet. Didn't have to do anything except insert the SIM and choose ATT. I haven't seen the 3G icon pop up so that means no 3G compatibility where I'm at.

TMobile USA is great
I am an airline pilot and use my HD nationwide and it works splendidly in every city I have been to. EDGE is much, much better than GPRS that I had on my Imate Jasjar (Universal) but I would agree that the only drawback is to streaming YouTube. YouTube on EDGE is functional but it uses the lower quality mode.
I am successfully using MMS on TMo here in the USA so any trouble with it might just be a setting that needs to be tweaked. Having had some trouble with that on my JasJar in the past I just set it up manually and did just that when I got the HD. I didn't even try the default MMS settings, just deleted them and put my own in that I knew worked.
As for 3G, didn't work on my JasJar and not on my HD but for me it turns out to not be a deal breaker at all. Having had four different WM devices over 6 years, the HD is blowing me away. I really love it's speed, screen and size. HTC did a really nice (not great) job with the TouchFlo UI and hope that a few updates will make it great. Now that I installed the new Resco Explorer (GSFinder before) I don't need to use the stylus at all! I like that the most.
For those of you in the USA, give TMobile a try. I don't think you would be unhappy with their service and pricing.
Regards,
Gordo

I'm using iWireless (Owned by Tmobile) in Iowa. No problems getting it to work like all the others here. I don't have a data plan, so haven't tested that out yet. And it's just commonly known that the HD doesn't support US 3G.

It supports 3G, but we cant use it because the antenna is set to receive 2100 and 900.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450670&page=5

jim256 said:
I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.
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You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.

Everdog said:
You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.
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WOW. That is WAY great information to know. So the $9 / month T-Zones is REAL full data / internet browsing? Not some stupid V-Cast like thing?
I have been dying trying to figure out what to do...when I signed up I thought unlimited data was $6 / month (it was some web2go thing for $5.99), then I find out that they discontinued it right after I got my phone and it's now $25...ridiculous. So I have been wondering, should I:
A. Switch to ATT.
B. Have an HD w/ no internet plan.
C. Go back to my vogue on sprint evdo rev a fastest mobile internet in us.
Are you pretty positive about that then? I could sign up for that right now and get 50mb browsing full internet for $9 / month as long as I tell them that it isn't a smartphone?
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AWESOME information for my situation...
Jim.

Uhm... perhaps I am missing something obvious but.
If i go to phone, then select "Options", then select "Band".
I can choose between network type "GSM" or "WCDMA".
Also for GSM/UMTS band I can choose between:
1) UMTS(2100)+GSM(900+1800)
2) UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
3) UMTS(800+2100)
Does that option have no effect? or what?

Touch HD on T-Mobile 3g

Does the TOUCH HD Work on t-mobile's 3g network ? *data not phone service*

a big NO in the USA...
fyi, use this sections "sticky" for these questions instead of starting a new thread...

Yes in the UK. I'm using an unlocked Orange HD on T-Mobile UK. 3G and HSDPA data is fine.

In Austria [Europe, not the country with the Kangaroos ] 3g works fine too with T-Mobile

Works great in Holland

Anyone else have any experience of the HTC Touch HD on T-Mobiles unlimited data plan in the UK?
I might be interested in this.

chimpsinties said:
Anyone else have any experience of the HTC Touch HD on T-Mobiles unlimited data plan in the UK?
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I have.
Been with T-Mobile for about 6 months now, really have no complaints, save for some recent confusion about the discount I get on my contract.

That's great. I just thought I remembered reading somewhere that T-Mobile only gave you GPRS for mobile web. Obviously I want 3G or HSDPA for decent speeds. If it's all good I'll just go for it next month.
I found this deal at mobilephonesdriect.co.uk on T-Mobile
200mins
200text
Unlimited internet
£24.50pm
18 month contract
£99 for phone

That's not too bad a deal.
Never ordered from that site before but I've seen them linked to a few times and their prices always seem to be good.
Personally though, I'd probably be looking at the HTC Hero/G2 that they have free on the £30/month tariff but that's just me.
edit: sorry, missed the thing about GPRS/HSDPA.
Not sure what you've been reading (it might relate to T-Mobile is the US, which uses a different network frequency, therefore making the HD incompatible with it's 3G coverage) but that's definitely not true for the UK - I get HSDPA coverage pretty much all the time, the only place I've ever struggled was my mate's flat in Manchester but everywhere else has been fine.

I like the Hero but I'm not sold 100% on android yet. You can't get TomTom for it and I really like my satnav on my WinMo phone at the moment. I've heard the satnav on the Hero is a bit naff. I also like the idea of the BIG screen on the HD. Yumyum.
Cheers for your help.

XfrostX said:
Does the TOUCH HD Work on t-mobile's 3g network ? *data not phone service*
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Which T-mobile network? where are you located?

I'm in Sheffield UK (if that was aimed at me)

[Q] Orange in UK

Hi Guys,
just wondering, does anyone have a desire Z on orange UK? I was wondering if the phones are sent out with orange software etc rather than plain android operating system? I know the older phones orange used to brand them by not just the sticker but also their software...
Also are the phones normally simlocked?
One more thing - how has your experiance been in orange network? I have seen some complaints as to getting internet can be slow etc... Not sure if this is the right place to ask but would like to know...
I am planning to move to a desire z on orange - currently got a htc touch hd on O2.
Thanks for your help!

Orange as a network are not too bad, and are getting slowly better again.
Their phones will be sim locked, and also while locked you won't be able to install any new radio firmware on your phone (they just won't work).
They have been known to use their own launcher lately, however sense will still be installed so you can swap to htc's stock launcher, not sure on what they are doing with the Z though.
I have an unbranded unlocked z and running on orange, the signal is fantastic.

I got mine from Mobiles.co.uk and all their handsets are supposed to be unlocked and unbranded. Mine is definately unbranded but haven't tested if it's unlocked.

Do Orange even sell the DZ ? I can see the DHD on their website, so I guess there's a good chance the DZ is following behind.
Remember that coverage can vary greatly, depending on where you are. See if you can borrow a phone from someone you know who has Orange, to test the signal out in your area. Or get a free pay-as-you-go SIM from Orange to test out the signal before you commit. Orange and T-Mobile are merging, so their coverage should improve through that.
Orange is terrible where I am and Vodafone is good, but if I moved somewhere else it could easily be the other way round.

Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.

Lennyuk said:
Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.
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Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?

steviewevie said:
Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?
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how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.

Lennyuk said:
how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.
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You'd be suprised. For example, in my house the Orange and T-Mobile signals are bad (had them before), but Vodafone is fine. Similarly a friend's house in a different part of the country has the same issue (Vodafone isn't that great there, but a lot better than the Orange/T-Mobile signals).

Orange vs T-Mobile
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?

Audette said:
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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I am currently on ORange in Dundee with a Pro2, data and voice been fine almost anywhere in the city (3G loses a bit when I'm in the middle of my house but it IS a new build so the attic is extra thick for insulation. However I noticed that when I set up the T-Mobile/Orange roaming a few weeks ago, it picks up a strong T-Mobile signal in the places it couldn't before. Now I have taken out a Desire Z via MobilePhonesDirect.co.uk on T-Mobile and I'm still using the Orange SIM in the Desire until my contract runs out come February and it's given me no problems. Simply roams to T-Mobile in several consistent blackspots... Once the T-Mobile 3G can be used on Orange it'll be even better!

Audette said:
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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Multiple tests using speedtest.net app.
Down - Up
766 - 493
1455 - 503
1867 - 485
1872 - 470
1891 - 441
Wifi
Down - Up
9363 - 545
Am I getting what I should be getting?

Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
sent from htc desire Z

I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho

Stea1thmode said:
I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho
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What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??

wolek76 said:
Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
sent from htc desire Z
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Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?

Audette said:
What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??
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I've not done a speed test yet nor experienced any slowness, only when there's bad reception.
Audette said:
Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?
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To be honest I'm not sure, am on unlimited web n talk (internet) which works out to be 3gig for an extra fiver a month. I think with these types of phones you'd be better off with unlimited if you can get it

Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
sent from htc desire Z

wolek76 said:
Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
sent from htc desire Z
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There's an app on market called NetCounter which shows your data usage, might be worth using that to help monitor data.

Im currently on Orange (contract now expired) and also looking to upgrade to a Desire Z with Orange (currently using HTC Touch HD).
I'm going to call Orange direct first and see what I can get. If they still don't do the Z then I might get it through Phones4U, on Orange, as they are offering the Z for free on a 24 month contract @ £25 pm which seems quite good.
Phones4U can also do upgrades so I have sent them a request to see if they can offer anything better than the £25 pm contract.

Yes, it CAN double as a phone!!!! (Quick Look)

For anyone who is wondering whether or not the 7.7 (specifically the P6800) can be used as a GSM phone, well here is your definitive answer with video proof from yours truly. Enjoy!

Thanks, for the video. I look foward to receving mine.

Thanks for the video. You just made my decision on buying one much easier.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Zed? They say zed in Virginia? Is it a suburb of Canada or something?

Paten said:
Zed? They say zed in Virginia? Is it a suburb of Canada or something?
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Latent Britishism of mine. Used to live in the UK you see.

I wonder if the radio from either the T-mobile Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 7.0 Plus can be used to enable voice and 3G data on the T-mobile US network on this tab. Just a thought.

Paten said:
I wonder if the radio from either the T-mobile Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 7.0 Plus can be used to enable voice and 3G data on the T-mobile US network on this tab. Just a thought.
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I would say probably not. I have discussed this at length over in the GNote forum.
Long story short, even if the chipset does have a 1700AWS feature, enabled by some modified modem.bin or whatever, the device itself is very unlikely to have the antenna necessary for picking up that frequency. So basically, you'll either get very poor 3G signal, or none at all.
For Americans, as much as it sucks, my suggestion when using international devices is this:
Listen carefully. Are you listening? Good!
AVOID CARRIERS WHICH USE PROPRIETARY FREQUENCIES AND/OR TECHNOLOGIES
So that rules out T-Mobile, or any MVNO that uses T-Mobile (like SIMple Mobile), and that rules out EVERY CDMA carrier.
So yeah, if you're importing international devices, you're basically left with only one option: AT&T (or any AT&T MVNO). And people think it isn't a monopoly? HA!!!

I'm not listening.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
For anyone who is wondering whether or not the 7.7 (specifically the P6800) can be used as a GSM phone, well here is your definitive answer with video proof from yours truly. Enjoy!
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I am wondering if my P6810 WiFi only device can use Gmail's Call Phone option?
I have used Call Phone on my laptop when traveling and it works great to make free calls within the U.S.
If not I guess I can use Skype or QIK or even Google Talk?
Yeah I know, why not buy the P6800? Well cost for one thing and also I have a T-Mobile "MiFi" hotspot that is pay as you go. So if I am traveling I top off the hotspot with data/time and I am good to go. Put the little thing my my pocket and connect to my tablet via 4G.
Note: I have not yet received my Tab from Negri , it is due to arrive on 1/26/12

DuhDroid said:
I am wondering if my P6810 WiFi only device can use Gmail's Call Phone option?
I have used Call Phone on my laptop when traveling and it works great to make free calls within the U.S.
If not I guess I can use Skype or QIK or even Google Talk?
Yeah I know, why not buy the P6800? Well cost for one thing and also I have a T-Mobile "MiFi" hotspot that is pay as you go. So if I am traveling I top off the hotspot with data/time and I am good to go. Put the little thing my my pocket and connect to my tablet via 4G.
Note: I have not yet received my Tab from Negri , it is due to arrive on 1/26/12
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GrooveIP will let you make calls with your Google Voice account via WiFi. Great little app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en

Sweet! I will check it out...thanks for the link.

Couldn't have been easier..
I finally put my AT&T sim card in my tab yesterday..
Now I got it from Negri on the 6th & set up my wifi..
Set up my email.. all is cool..
Went & did an OTA update... all cool.. no probs...
Then I stuffed in the sim card..
Immediately after re-booting... I made and received phone calls..!!!
I didn't have to do any settings at all..
So I tried sending myself a txt message... sent and received within a few seconds..
I didn't have to do any APN settings at all like I had to do in my GNote..
Then sent and received mms too!! success..
Web pages loaded fast.. although I cant find any icons that say 3g or H or H+...
Only super tiny green arrows going up and down near the clock on bottom right..
My contacts from my sim card were there too..
AGAIN.. I DID NOT have to do any APN settings..Somehow it knew and did it all for me... wap. cingular...etc.....
Super success!!!

jimmbomb said:
Couldn't have been easier..
I finally put my AT&T sim card in my tab yesterday..
Now I got it from Negri on the 6th & set up my wifi..
Set up my email.. all is cool..
Went & did an OTA update... all cool.. no probs...
Then I stuffed in the sim card..
Immediately after re-booting... I made and received phone calls..!!!
I didn't have to do any settings at all..
So I tried sending myself a txt message... sent and received within a few seconds..
I didn't have to do any APN settings at all like I had to do in my GNote..
Then sent and received mms too!! success..
Web pages loaded fast.. although I cant find any icons that say 3g or H or H+...
Only super tiny green arrows going up and down near the clock on bottom right..
My contacts from my sim card were there too..
AGAIN.. I DID NOT have to do any APN settings..Somehow it knew and did it all for me... wap. cingular...etc.....
Super success!!!
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What kind of battery life are you seeing? Are you using as your primary phone? I get mine tomorrow and plan to try this myself. Just a bit anxious!!

mklpickle said:
What kind of battery life are you seeing? Are you using as your primary phone? I get mine tomorrow and plan to try this myself. Just a bit anxious!!
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Phenomenal battery. Easy get through a full day with room to spare, even with screen at 100%. Using as primary phone as well. You can talk on the thing for over 24 hours straight, and still not run down the battery all the way. No joke!

Well it does say 49hrs of talk time in 2G mode and 27hrs in 3G so the battery life is gonna be phenomenal when it comes to taking calls.

Want to see how it looks when holding that tablet to your ears?
Watch this http://youtu.be/Lnqs5zMDtRc
phoning starts at 2:40

Polarfuchs said:
Want to see how it looks when holding that tablet to your ears?
Watch this http://youtu.be/Lnqs5zMDtRc
phoning starts at 2:40
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And that right there is precisely the reason I bought an HM5000!