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Straight Answer on US Carrier Support

All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)

Answers so far ((so you don't have to go searching for them!))
1) T-Mobile & ATT
1a) Wisconsin -ATT | Chicago - ATT
2) Edge = ok
2a) No - Wisconsin, Chicago
2b)
3) No hacks needed - plug in SIM card, possibly might have to select network from list
3a)
4) Problems sending MMS on AT&T. 99% send then fail.
5)

I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.

ismisunderstood said:
All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)
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The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.

I am in Chicago area on AT&T and it works fine. No 3G data but edge is fine. I am streaming video using a slingbox and it works ok.

Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Canaan said:
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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it's both the phone and network's fault, the phone for not having UMTS 850, 1700, or 1900. And the networks for choosing those frequencies over umts 900 and 2100.

Canaan said:
Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Wow, a little full of yourself there? It's not like I climbed towers and decided to put 850 bands in America.
I believe if I made a $750 purchase, I would know whether or not the phone was capable of picking up US 3G bands or not.
But I guess your right, I should move to Europe to take advantage of the "adequate" networks.
There is no need to be a jerk about it.
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I'm using mine on ATT, use mostly wifi which has been good, EDGE is good the few times I've used it (based on what I've heard from people using 3G on other phones, it's not that much better than wifi, but I'm sure that's location dependent). I'm using it in NC and surrounding states, have only sent/received MMS a couple of times but haven't had any problems yet. Didn't have to do anything except insert the SIM and choose ATT. I haven't seen the 3G icon pop up so that means no 3G compatibility where I'm at.

TMobile USA is great
I am an airline pilot and use my HD nationwide and it works splendidly in every city I have been to. EDGE is much, much better than GPRS that I had on my Imate Jasjar (Universal) but I would agree that the only drawback is to streaming YouTube. YouTube on EDGE is functional but it uses the lower quality mode.
I am successfully using MMS on TMo here in the USA so any trouble with it might just be a setting that needs to be tweaked. Having had some trouble with that on my JasJar in the past I just set it up manually and did just that when I got the HD. I didn't even try the default MMS settings, just deleted them and put my own in that I knew worked.
As for 3G, didn't work on my JasJar and not on my HD but for me it turns out to not be a deal breaker at all. Having had four different WM devices over 6 years, the HD is blowing me away. I really love it's speed, screen and size. HTC did a really nice (not great) job with the TouchFlo UI and hope that a few updates will make it great. Now that I installed the new Resco Explorer (GSFinder before) I don't need to use the stylus at all! I like that the most.
For those of you in the USA, give TMobile a try. I don't think you would be unhappy with their service and pricing.
Regards,
Gordo

I'm using iWireless (Owned by Tmobile) in Iowa. No problems getting it to work like all the others here. I don't have a data plan, so haven't tested that out yet. And it's just commonly known that the HD doesn't support US 3G.

It supports 3G, but we cant use it because the antenna is set to receive 2100 and 900.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450670&page=5

jim256 said:
I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.
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You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.

Everdog said:
You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.
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WOW. That is WAY great information to know. So the $9 / month T-Zones is REAL full data / internet browsing? Not some stupid V-Cast like thing?
I have been dying trying to figure out what to do...when I signed up I thought unlimited data was $6 / month (it was some web2go thing for $5.99), then I find out that they discontinued it right after I got my phone and it's now $25...ridiculous. So I have been wondering, should I:
A. Switch to ATT.
B. Have an HD w/ no internet plan.
C. Go back to my vogue on sprint evdo rev a fastest mobile internet in us.
Are you pretty positive about that then? I could sign up for that right now and get 50mb browsing full internet for $9 / month as long as I tell them that it isn't a smartphone?
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AWESOME information for my situation...
Jim.

Uhm... perhaps I am missing something obvious but.
If i go to phone, then select "Options", then select "Band".
I can choose between network type "GSM" or "WCDMA".
Also for GSM/UMTS band I can choose between:
1) UMTS(2100)+GSM(900+1800)
2) UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
3) UMTS(800+2100)
Does that option have no effect? or what?

Can the HD2 T8585 Work on U.S. ATT 3G At All?

We just bought the T8585 touch HD2. Of course it's an amazing device and I know it has always been said to be limited to Edge here in the states unless you buy the new T9xxx HD2. I'm just looking to verify this though because I've read for days now and want to see some real world responses. So:
CAN THE HD2 T8585 WORK WITH AT&T 3G IN THE UNITED STATES? What radio/rom/rilphone.dll combination would I use to make this work or can it just not be done?
Thanks so much in advance!!!
-Josh

connexion2005 said:
We just bought the T8585 touch HD2. Of course it's an amazing device and I know it has always been said to be limited to Edge here in the states unless you buy the new T9xxx HD2. I'm just looking to verify this though because I've read for days now and want to see some real world responses. So:
CAN THE HD2 T8585 WORK WITH AT&T 3G IN THE UNITED STATES? What radio/rom/rilphone.dll combination would I use to make this work or can it just not be done?
Thanks so much in advance!!!
-Josh
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HD2 T8585 will not work with AT&T 3G since AT&T 3G is running 850MHz and the HD2 T8585 only supports 900 / 2100 MHz.
Yes, the Aussie version T9xxx WORKS with AT&T 3G.

Thanks a lot. That's the response I was looking for to validate my thoughts. If anyone has a different experience, please share.

The T9193 does work. Any rom with complementary radio should do the trick. Does not need special radio. I have sea wwe 1.66 installed on mine. No issues at the moment. At my home I pull in speeds of 1600kbps on H (3G+). You might want to check with ATT to see if your area has 850UMTS as not all 3G areas do. The T9193 will not give you 3G on the 1900UMTS band.

so agoattamer your sayin that if i got an t8585 changed the radio and all tha other stuff that i can get 3g if my area pulls the 1900umts BAND?

No I never said anything close to that. The Telstra T9193 is UMTS850+2100. The European T8585 is UMTS900+2100. Nothing can change or takeaway the bands.
I said the T9193 can get UMTS850 for ATT in the US. But only if ATT has that band available in your area. Niether phone has the UMTS1900 band.

connexion2005 said:
Thanks a lot. That's the response I was looking for to validate my thoughts. If anyone has a different experience, please share.
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Hey there,
Just wanted to let you know that although "we" have a T8585, don't feel left behind by the T9393 just because we can't use 3G for U.S. At&t.
there is a known and proven workaround to tweak the EDGE speed if you are using U.S. At&t. I get about 750kbps - 900kbps using my T8585 using this tweak.
Please read this thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318
in my case, since my last device was a 2g iphone, im only paying $20 bucks with 200 text messages for the EDGE unlimited plan, compare if i have a T9393 which i will be required to purchase the $30 bucks data only plan (and not all places here in East coast has 3G, so i think it's a better choice for me to have a T8585) and having this tweak, makes my HD2 experience more exciting.
I have been using this tweak for over a month and reviewed my most recent bill to make sure im not going to be charge off by doing this.
So,..... enjoy!!!!

Agoattamer said:
No I never said anything close to that. The Telstra T9193 is UMTS850+2100. The European T8585 is UMTS900+2100. Nothing can change or takeaway the bands.
I said the T9193 can get UMTS850 for ATT in the US. But only if ATT has that band available in your area. Niether phone has the UMTS1900 band.
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okay well i gave att a lil call today and asked her about what bands my area has and she told me my area has 900 umts so would it still be good if i got the t8585?

You must not have heard right or she answered a different question. ATT does NOT have UMTS on 900MHz. ONLY on 850 or 1900, and by the end of the year it will be ALL 850.

din0_22 said:
Hey there,
Just wanted to let you know that although "we" have a T8585, don't feel left behind by the T9393 just because we can't use 3G for U.S. At&t.
there is a known and proven workaround to tweak the EDGE speed if you are using U.S. At&t. I get about 750kbps - 900kbps using my T8585 using this tweak.
Please read this thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318
in my case, since my last device was a 2g iphone, im only paying $20 bucks with 200 text messages for the EDGE unlimited plan, compare if i have a T9393 which i will be required to purchase the $30 bucks data only plan (and not all places here in East coast has 3G, so i think it's a better choice for me to have a T8585) and having this tweak, makes my HD2 experience more exciting.
I have been using this tweak for over a month and reviewed my most recent bill to make sure im not going to be charge off by doing this.
So,..... enjoy!!!!
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Why in the world would you run the old edge unlimited plan on a device who's IMEI isn't in atts data bank?
If one is using a device att doesn't have on their network, you can get the media net unlimited plan for $10-15, which gives you unlimited access to 3g, tethering, and all other features for much cheaper without any risk for att adding a $30+ a month smart phone plan.
Honestly I ran that same plan on my Tilt, Tilt2 and fuze without issue.
Paying more for edge just doesn't make sense to me.
Att + HD2 9193 + Media Net = Gold

Scrtcwlvl said:
Att + HD2 9193 + Media Net = Gold
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Word of the wise.
I love my $15/mo MediaNet. Unlimited EDGE/3G/HSPA to do everything your heart desires

Scrtcwlvl said:
Why in the world would you run the old edge unlimited plan on a device who's IMEI isn't in atts data bank?
If one is using a device att doesn't have on their network, you can get the media net unlimited plan for $10-15, which gives you unlimited access to 3g, tethering, and all other features for much cheaper without any risk for att adding a $30+ a month smart phone plan.
Honestly I ran that same plan on my Tilt, Tilt2 and fuze without issue.
Paying more for edge just doesn't make sense to me.
Att + HD2 9193 + Media Net = Gold
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why? because 1st, its like i have a choice coming from an iphone 2g plan? 2nd, att still have my phone listed as the iphone 2g and FYI, if i try to register another phone, they would then need an IMEI., and if i ever provide a regular old flip phone and sign up for the $5-$15 EDGE MEDIA NET ulimited plan and GOT A RANDOM AUDIT CHECK??? how will you explain almost or more than 1GB of data used in a month having a registered device that transmit cant even transmit 20mb a day???
have you ever read the Att terms and condition? a relative of mine in this case got charged off for 5 months of unrestricted use of data using YOUR IDEA and ended up paying for it. 11.xxx GB to be exact.
imagine At&t charge 1cent per kilobyte????
Besides, iphone 2g would be the closest and cheapest plan that can transmit such amount of data without question.
lets just say, "i would rather be safe, than sorry", and besides???? who will jump from a regular flip phone with unlimited plan to an expensive HD2???
all pda or smartphones plan alone from att cost $30 bucks and paying $20 bucks with a whopping 200 free text message and unlimited data is a true golden!

ATT data plans are $30? I thought I was getting screwed for being legacy. [email protected]$25 woot!

Some people are just so paranoid and scared to stick it to the "man"
Had an iphone 2g 3 years ago then i got me an unlocked g1 downgraded my att net plan to media net and been paying 10 bucks for all access internet with my corp discount.
and even used a samsung blackjack as a 3g modem for my pc's.
Where there is a will theres a way.
3 years and counting.

This might sound like a stupid question
Im from the UK, so if i came to the USA with my HD2 and UK Sim for a holiday i couldnt use 3g data on any network?

You would likely roam on ATT so no, you would only have EDGE. Plus, data would be bloody expensive anyways

Ok so I am confused now. I was just at Fry's and they have an HD2 GSM Unlocked for roughly $600.
But on the box it shows the 850 and 1900 bands..... It says its the T8585, will this connect to AT&T 3G

GSM bands are not the same as 3G bands, though the numbering is the same

UK HD2 data loophole with US T-mobile?

I’ll be blunt. I am from California, USA, however, I use a UK HD2 on T-mobile. I’ve never had the urge to use 3G on my phone; I have wifi everywhere I go. Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t, right?
Anyways, I’ve recently had an urge to try out data on my phone… First, Is it possible via t-zones or web2go? Knowing that I can’t use t-mobile’s 3G (my Leo doesn’t have those frequencies) can I use t-zones or web2go? ?
T-mobile has not been able to catch/record my phone-type on their website. They don’t even know I have a UK HD2. For all they know, I could be using a DUMB-Phone. I’ve had my Leo for more than a year now. Haven’t been caught.

lemonspeakers said:
I’ll be blunt. I am from California, USA, however, I use a UK HD2 on T-mobile. I’ve never had the urge to use 3G on my phone; I have wifi everywhere I go. Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t, right?
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Just switch the wifi off, lol. Your phone will default to mobile data as long as that's switched on in the options.
lemonspeakers said:
Anyways, I’ve recently had an urge to try out data on my phone… First, Is it possible via t-zones or web2go? Knowing that I can’t use t-mobile’s 3G (my Leo doesn’t have those frequencies) can I use t-zones or web2go?
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Can't help you there.
lemonspeakers said:
T-mobile has not been able to catch/record my phone-type on their website. They don’t even know I have a UK HD2. For all they know, I could be using a DUMB-Phone. I’ve had my Leo for more than a year now. Haven’t been caught.
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Caught doing what? You think they give a **** what type of phone you're using? You could use a couple of cans and a piece of string for all they care, as long as you're paying them your monthly blood sacrifice.

Do you have Tzones or web2go on a line already? If not, it is very difficult (but not impossible) to get it added b/c it is a grandfathered plan.
If you already have the plan (or get it added) then yes it will work with your phone. You will of course be on 2g which is painfully slow however. I bought my HD2(US version) second hand and have been using it with my Tzones plan since April (running both winmo and android). On my.tmobile.com they still think I am using a dumbphone.

thank you, but my question is: will i be able to use 2G even if i have a UK HD2 under US tmobile????

I'd imagine so, if you get data enabled they'll enable it, you're paying them they don't care what you're using, however depending on what bands you can use I'm unsure, I have gsm 900 1800 and wcdma I believe (2g 3g and hspda). If you're network works on any of those you're good to go

lemonspeakers said:
thank you, but my question is: will i be able to use 2G even if i have a UK HD2 under US tmobile????
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2G yes
3G no
I don't see why you feel what you are doing is so covert and sneaky. I have a European HD2 and was in the US for a few months this year, bought an AT&T pre-paid sim and used it, simple...why would they care?

[Q] Orange in UK

Hi Guys,
just wondering, does anyone have a desire Z on orange UK? I was wondering if the phones are sent out with orange software etc rather than plain android operating system? I know the older phones orange used to brand them by not just the sticker but also their software...
Also are the phones normally simlocked?
One more thing - how has your experiance been in orange network? I have seen some complaints as to getting internet can be slow etc... Not sure if this is the right place to ask but would like to know...
I am planning to move to a desire z on orange - currently got a htc touch hd on O2.
Thanks for your help!

Orange as a network are not too bad, and are getting slowly better again.
Their phones will be sim locked, and also while locked you won't be able to install any new radio firmware on your phone (they just won't work).
They have been known to use their own launcher lately, however sense will still be installed so you can swap to htc's stock launcher, not sure on what they are doing with the Z though.
I have an unbranded unlocked z and running on orange, the signal is fantastic.

I got mine from Mobiles.co.uk and all their handsets are supposed to be unlocked and unbranded. Mine is definately unbranded but haven't tested if it's unlocked.

Do Orange even sell the DZ ? I can see the DHD on their website, so I guess there's a good chance the DZ is following behind.
Remember that coverage can vary greatly, depending on where you are. See if you can borrow a phone from someone you know who has Orange, to test the signal out in your area. Or get a free pay-as-you-go SIM from Orange to test out the signal before you commit. Orange and T-Mobile are merging, so their coverage should improve through that.
Orange is terrible where I am and Vodafone is good, but if I moved somewhere else it could easily be the other way round.

Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.

Lennyuk said:
Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.
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Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?

steviewevie said:
Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?
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how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.

Lennyuk said:
how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.
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You'd be suprised. For example, in my house the Orange and T-Mobile signals are bad (had them before), but Vodafone is fine. Similarly a friend's house in a different part of the country has the same issue (Vodafone isn't that great there, but a lot better than the Orange/T-Mobile signals).

Orange vs T-Mobile
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?

Audette said:
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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I am currently on ORange in Dundee with a Pro2, data and voice been fine almost anywhere in the city (3G loses a bit when I'm in the middle of my house but it IS a new build so the attic is extra thick for insulation. However I noticed that when I set up the T-Mobile/Orange roaming a few weeks ago, it picks up a strong T-Mobile signal in the places it couldn't before. Now I have taken out a Desire Z via MobilePhonesDirect.co.uk on T-Mobile and I'm still using the Orange SIM in the Desire until my contract runs out come February and it's given me no problems. Simply roams to T-Mobile in several consistent blackspots... Once the T-Mobile 3G can be used on Orange it'll be even better!

Audette said:
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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Multiple tests using speedtest.net app.
Down - Up
766 - 493
1455 - 503
1867 - 485
1872 - 470
1891 - 441
Wifi
Down - Up
9363 - 545
Am I getting what I should be getting?

Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
sent from htc desire Z

I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho

Stea1thmode said:
I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho
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What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??

wolek76 said:
Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
sent from htc desire Z
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Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?

Audette said:
What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??
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I've not done a speed test yet nor experienced any slowness, only when there's bad reception.
Audette said:
Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?
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To be honest I'm not sure, am on unlimited web n talk (internet) which works out to be 3gig for an extra fiver a month. I think with these types of phones you'd be better off with unlimited if you can get it

Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
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wolek76 said:
Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
sent from htc desire Z
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There's an app on market called NetCounter which shows your data usage, might be worth using that to help monitor data.

Im currently on Orange (contract now expired) and also looking to upgrade to a Desire Z with Orange (currently using HTC Touch HD).
I'm going to call Orange direct first and see what I can get. If they still don't do the Z then I might get it through Phones4U, on Orange, as they are offering the Z for free on a 24 month contract @ £25 pm which seems quite good.
Phones4U can also do upgrades so I have sent them a request to see if they can offer anything better than the £25 pm contract.

[Q] Does the UK HTC HD2 work in USA?

title sums it up really. im going to america for about 4 months and wondered if my UK HTC HD2 will work over there. im currently on t-mobile in the UK, but the phone is unlocked. im going to be travelling around a bit, but a bulk of my time will be in new york/new jersey area.
if not any advice on a handset that does work? id like to keep people updated with my trip so twitter/facbook access is important.
any advice on what network and what plan to go for? to be honest the first 3 months i will probably pick a pay as you go sim, as i will be working and will have access to twitter/facebook and a phone provided. it is the last month that i will be travelling around and is when data access will be important.

matthewharmon102 said:
title sums it up really. im going to america for about 4 months and wondered if my UK HTC HD2 will work over there. im currently on t-mobile in the UK, but the phone is unlocked. im going to be travelling around a bit, but a bulk of my time will be in new york/new jersey area.
if not any advice on a handset that does work? id like to keep people updated with my trip so twitter/facbook access is important.
any advice on what network and what plan to go for? to be honest the first 3 months i will probably pick a pay as you go sim, as i will be working and will have access to twitter/facebook and a phone provided. it is the last month that i will be travelling around and is when data access will be important.
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Hi,
I am a UK vodafone Hd2 user.
I travel with work to the US, including NY, 1 week every month and get a reasonable service. The main issue is that Edge is the best service you will get.
I do not swap SIM's but use roaming, 1 week is not too bad with data and call roaming packages but expensive for full time.
All other functions work fine including GPS

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Hi,
The main issue is that Edge is the best service you will get.
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You mean you cannot 3G in US? Is it because UK phones don't operate on the 3G bands in US, or because your operator does not have 3G roaming in US?

thanks for the advice. im with t-mobile so il have to look at their roaming packages. im mainly based in new jersey/pennsylavania areas, can anyone reccommend a network with a good reception? im going to call t-mobile a bit nearer the time and see what they can do, maybe they can transfer me to a US plan? the main thing i wanted to know is am i better of buying a phone when i am out there, buying one in the UK that is unlocked and says USA compatable (quad band i think?) or should i stick to my HD2?