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Just want to find out whether this is normal.
There is a hiss during mp3 playback on my TyTN. Using the audio manager and WMP, the hissing is there on mp3 playback even when you have the program and system volume at zero.
In coreplayer and TCPMP the hissing is only when you have the volume above zero, and the hissing doesn't get louder or softer depending on volume. So its not the quality of the song. Tested with both mp3 and WMA.
Note that I am using wired headphones (Ultimate Ears Super.fi 3) through a HTC y-splitter, but I know its not the splitter or headphones because its the same through the phones speaker.
Its not a terrible sound, but you know its there. Is this something TyTN owners have just learnt to live with or is there some sort of software fix? Or is the solution to just turn the volume up so you can't hear it?
So do people just live with this background noise?
hiss and loud volume
Malkatraz said:
So do people just live with this background noise?
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Yes - i reckon so - i searched and searched for a solution to the hiss I'm experiencing with a pair of super.fi pro 5's.
Also the minimum volume is too high with Pocket Music Player (unless you turn the preamp down - which reduces the volume without reducing the hiss!), WMP, mortplayer and HTC audio manager.
I get best results with tcpmp.
Still ... the audio is better than my plantronics stereo bluetooth headset even with the best a2dp setting.
Super.fi's are superb played through a mini disc player!
If you find a solution please post it!!
Hiss...we don't have no stinkin hiss!
Try using a player called Pocket Music. I have virtually no audible hiss. It also has a really nice graphic eq similar to Winamp that allows full control including hiss reduction if you pull back the upper most slider about 4db below center line.
I am using VP3G 3.2 and I run my bitrates at 128, or 320. Could you possibly be encoded below 128?
Convert is correct, I had to tamp the preamp gain way back in Pocket Music to have a good range of volume control too.
What phones are you using?
alylea said:
Try using a player called Pocket Music. I have virtually no audible hiss. It also has a really nice graphic eq similar to Winamp that allows full control including hiss reduction if you pull back the upper most slider about 4db below center line.
I am using VP3G 3.2 and I run my bitrates at 128, or 320. Could you possibly be encoded below 128?
Convert is correct, I had to tamp the preamp gain way back in Pocket Music to have a good range of volume control too.
What phones are you using?
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I get hiss and I'm encoding at between 192 - 256 kbps. Malkatraz mentioned the phones above - not sure about the splitter.
For what it's worth there seems to be no difference between tcpmp0.81RC1 Beta and Pocket Music Player except tcpmp is free (the equalizer was disabled in the freeware Pocket Music Player i downloaded).
PS. the attenuator that comes with the Super.fi 5 pro's gets rid of the hiss but the sound is slightly flatter.
Hey,
I was wondering how good the audio-quality is with some decent headphones? I have the Hermes with an adapter for ear-plugs, the sound is quite good for a phone, but not compared to a proper mp3 player..mind you, I'm a hifi-music guy and have quite good hearing (comparing headphones etc. no problem)
the audio is just fine and loud enough but not extremely loud! Dont worry. If it is a European device you can use diamond tools and disable the european union 100db sound limit.
that's good to know about the limiting..
and how is the quality, not just the loudness, like the base comes through clean, the sound is weighted equally and such? and when you turn the volume up, the signal stays clean (no clipping etc..my hermes does this)
The sound seems decent enough to me as well.
i'd imagine there would be clipping in a device like this, however I can't confirm at this point in time.
As anticipated, there are noticeable hisses.
Reference:
- 320kbps songs
- Sennheiser IE8 in-ears
- TF3D's audio booster on (R & B--on/off indifferent, really: hisses still there)
- system volume on last bar (i.e., lowest)
Overall, I find the HD alright. The siblence sounds become less obvious with the stock buds, but with in-ears they are expected (both with TF3D and Coreplayer). Needlessly to say, no phones are mp3 players--a little compromise is liveable.
-cheers
Crappy quality through windows media player and good ipod quality if played through the music touchflo3d tab.
mmm... that is odd... why the difference I wonder?
BANE said:
mmm... that is odd... why the difference I wonder?
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probably the equalizer settings are better in the music tab.
Indeed i find WMP appalling on desktops as well, however you try to change the EQ.
The HD seems ok to me, i use Sennheiser CX-300 ear buds, the stock heaphones are a horrible shape and hurt my ears.
Does the HD have any way to output audio through the mini USB on the bottom? If so, one could hook up a cleaner audio signal, and if it's line out level, one can hook up an external amp.
Load Music, connect the earphone and the output sount quality is pathetic/worse even compare to the XDA ATOM/Exec or for that matter any other WM device I owned in past. On the other side the speaker output quality is still OK. The sound through the earphone ecos..sometimeit the voice goes low and instruments are high... normally this happens when you switch on the 3D surround on other devices like samsung Innov8. But the in X1 the quality is worse.. I even took it to the sony service they reloaded the ROM a fresh but the problems still remains. IS IT THE ACCEPTED SOUND QUALITY FROM X1. How about other owners .. do they get better sound output/quality through earphone. Is there anything I am doing wrong, Kindly suggest.
really? i find the music quality more than good enough. what headphones are you using?
The Headphone quality is f*cking good!!! I havn't heard this kinda bass on my I-Mate Jam or HTC TyTN II.
One thing is correct, the quality of the original earpieces is bad.
I got ones from creative. The one that go into you're ear.
The speaker quality..... Don't talk about it. Hate it
I'm using Sennheiser CX400 earphones and the sound quality is actually better than my iPod 5g.
Player software
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Load Music, connect the earphone and the output sount quality is pathetic/worse even compare to the XDA ATOM/Exec or for that matter any other WM device I owned in past. On the other side the speaker output quality is still OK. The sound through the earphone ecos..sometimeit the voice goes low and instruments are high... normally this happens when you switch on the 3D surround on other devices like samsung Innov8. But the in X1 the quality is worse.. I even took it to the sony service they reloaded the ROM a fresh but the problems still remains. IS IT THE ACCEPTED SOUND QUALITY FROM X1. How about other owners .. do they get better sound output/quality through earphone. Is there anything I am doing wrong, Kindly suggest.
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The headphones supplied with this phone are suprisingly high quality ones. I have my own Phillips branded ones however.
Aside from the headphones, I think you issue is with the software you use. I found that WMPlayer is pretty crap when it comes to playing my favourite tracks. I use PocketPlayer and also Pocket Music, which have some very good equaliser functions. They make a big difference.
I also find the sound quality f*cking good!!
I expected the worse because it's a WM device, but it exceeded my expectations. Also using Creative ear-ins (EP-630)
I think there is a bug in the Sony Media Player software that can result in a seemingly poor quality sound output.
I've found that when opening the media player for the first time and playing a track the soundstage of the music sounds like its collapsed (lacking any high end or openess in the stereo image). If you then tap pause and then play again all of a sudden the soundstage opens out and the sound quality is very good.
Since I've turned on the "clicking" noise for screen taps, the above bug doesn't occur so often.
However, if I receive a call whilst listening to music after subsequently hanging up the bug re-appears.
Anyone else getting this?
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I think there is a bug in the Sony Media Player software that can result in a seemingly poor quality sound output.
I've found that when opening the media player for the first time and playing a track the soundstage of the music sounds like its collapsed (lacking any high end or openess in the stereo image). If you then tap pause and then play again all of a sudden the soundstage opens out and the sound quality is very good.
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I have this too, but I don't think the bug is mediapanel related only.
I get this when I use S2P, Wmplayer and the media panel.
Sounds almost like flat mono before I tap pause and then play again..
I don't see this as a huge bug, but it can get annoying.
It depends on the mood I'm in..
can anyone compare the speakerphone to a nokia n73 or n70?
It's definitely weaker than the N73 one.
so much so its sickening or just a tiny bit? how bad are we talking about here :S?
I was expecting this thread to be about the poor speakerphone quality.... which it is. I know of no WM phone with a good speakerphone so I wasn't expecting it to be as good as my N95's. However, music through headphone jack is as good, or perhaps even better than my N95 (not as much background hiss as the N95). I use Shure SE430's (pretty expensive earphones) and I find the music playback to be quite good. I even hook the X1 up to my Logitech Z5500 speakers through the Line-in jack and I can pretty much DJ a party with the phone and it sounds as good as if the songs were being played off my computer. (This is all through the SE Multimedia Panel btw. I get similar results with CorePlayer or Windows Media Player).
The only problem I have with the media panel is I can't receive calls with it open. That may or may not be a plus/minus to some people, but I guess it's ok. When people call me, it goes straight to voicemail. The only way I can receive calls with music playing is to go back to the today screen (with the music still going), which works out ok too, since I hold the end key to lock the phone, which brings it back to the Today screen before locking.
worst audio player?? are you kidding?
sorry, but thats definitly NOT TRUE.
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the x1 has got the best and most powerfull audio out, i`ve tested. (but not compared with n70/73)
i wrote it few days ago in the accessoires threat.
i use the Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Inear
with 3 drivers/speakers per earpiece. (like a 3 way oldschool musik speaker)
i`ve tested my ue10pro headsets with a lot of other mp3 players and mobile phones.
but the X1 is the first player, who can unleash the power to drive the UE 10 pro to there limit....
only my sondcard a creative x-fi has got enough power to blast your ears/tympanic membrane....
the base is unbeleavable! the headset can go down to 10hz. and the high tones are crisp, sharp, clear. but a little
to soft from the middle to the highest frequency. but this could be fixed with the equalizer/audio booster.
if you set the first base frequency to +12 and the second slider to -10, you can formerly 'feel' the extreme deep bases.
you cant beleave, that you are not in a club!
don`t use the x1+ue10 for longer time on maximum power. thats very risky for your ears. trust me.
the only thing is, you have to use coreplayer and calibrate the equalizer.
or use a new custom rom (touch it hd) with integrated audio booster.
holy ****, that rulez!!
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Inear (~300$-400$)
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
these devices with othoplastic, spezially for your ears. and a laser burns your name into the headsets.
if you have 900$ bucks into your pocket, take a look at that:
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
or 1150$? with 4 audio drivers/speaker per ear!!
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
this is the last headset you buy! the cables are replaceble with translucent cables and iphone button.
no more broken headset cables/wires.
my advice, use coreplayer. DONT adjust the equalizer/tone faders more then 12 db.
you will be surprised.
(core is able to adjust more than 12db/slider. more then 12db will bring disharmonies and ugly subtones and crickeling)
(the audio booster could only adjust 6 db. thats not enough for xtreme bases.
but dont use in coreplayer the 2 lowest faders both to +12. thats to much base and
the headsets and the power amp will be very unprecise and roar/rumble and you run into danger to burn the headset
for good kickbase decrase the lowest fader to -3 and the second fader to +12, the 3th to +6. increase the high tones 1-4 db.
for good ultra deep base drums, set the lowest frequenzy +9 or +12, and the second one to -2, the third 0 db.
i have a ultimate ear fi 5 pro headphones with two driver lower is range then DOMin8or tri fi 10 pro. i get quite good results but not on the default player. I only use touch flo 3d in -built music player with audio booster, if you know how to set it , i guarantee you get better sound then walkman phone. i prefer bass and vocal no to be so dull. get the touch flo 3d music player set it to rock mode first then try to made this mode to v shape by just shifting the first two bar to be same as the last two bar, trust me even if you are using your default headphones, you will notice the difference
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can anyone compare the speakerphone to a nokia n73 or n70?
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speaker phone n95 8gb i think is the best
try this setting on audio booster
possibly, but i will it verify by my own. for me, this is the best combo i`ve tested. and ths x1 has got exactly that power, i`ve searched for. more power will destruct my/your ears
i like this unhealthy power of X1. and at 90% power, the sound is very precise and defined.
and 90% is my personal max. and i like it loud. but 100% ? not with me. *G
audio booster has got other cross over frequencies. so my advice/hint could not used with audio booster. audio booster has a range of +-6 db. thats not as good as cores +-12db(possible +-18, but most time useless. only for spezial noise filtering. for example in microphone recordings)
the most players output power broken down, if i increased the base and at high volume.
with other players, you can formaly feel the missing amp power. (ipod nano iv suuuxxxxxx,cheap no name mp3 player,orbit,diamond,nokia 6233, creative zen v plus. but zen v was the best.(not the best menu, but good sound quali)
but now the x1 is my favorit device)
imho the x1 has got a good power amp.
im not sure will it fit everyone style but after some tunning i think this settings best for me to go for on default earphones, i have been looking for post how to optimized sound quality, here is one, hopefully more will share there experience, i bought the x1 because of the 3.5mm connector if x1 doesnt has it i wont even look up to x1!
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audio booster has got other cross over frequencies. so my advice could not used with audio booster. audio booster has a range of +-6 db. thats not as good as cores +-12db(+-18useless)
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i have a coreplayer as will DOMin8or would you post some screen shot about the 12db settings? wanna see will it rock my 5 pro
Did you guys notice that the sound quality in htc audio output when we listen to music is almost without the bass even with bass boost or audio booster,at first i thought that it was due to lack of good audio player so i tried Pocket tunes and coreplayer but both didn't give any improvement ,its like you are listening to music with the twitter and without the bass,i tried increasing the audio quality but in vain ..its like almost horrible when it comes to audio music but pocket tunes and coreplayer in palmOS treo sounds very good with the volumes care software and even without it,the bass that it gives is almost like live..Then again I thought that it was the headset that is giving me the problem but when I listen to FM radio the sound quality is just superb so obviously its not the headset or the hardware but the audio codec that are used in the music player so I thought it will be better if there were a software like Volume care for Diamond ..i think that will do the trick.I will very thankful if any one can suggest me a way to improve the bad bassless sound quality either by enhancing software or another music player
DId you try adjusting the equalizer in the other audio software?
Are you referring to the old audio player bug where you would hear no bass at all when headphones were plugged in whilst audio booser was enabled?
Funny you should mention the FM radio sound being superb as I struggle to hear anything as the volume is too low
Yes I have tried the equalizer with full bass boost and custom mode and even volume boost feature available in pocket tunes ..there is a huge difference in FM Radio sound quality and the audio player sound quality,former gives the live like sound quality and latter is like i said its listening to twitter despite the fact that the ear piece is HTC original from the box and another thing ..don't you have the same problem?? or is it my HTC only..have you notice the FM radio and audio player sound difference..in FM radio the drum and the bass are thumping sound and very good but in audio player the drum sounds like a distance can cover banging and no bass at all(in the ear piece).
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Are you referring to the old audio player bug where you would hear no bass at all when headphones were plugged in whilst audio booser was enabled?
Funny you should mention the FM radio sound being superb as I struggle to hear anything as the volume is too low
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By old audio player bug means what?i don't understand.. Is there a new audio player upgrade available..if their is a new audio upgrade which solve these problems then can you point me to the right direction..your FM radio sound is too low mine is perfectly OK ..might be due to poor signal..and besides i have mention its not only the internal audio player but coreplayer and pocket tunes 4.1 too
Problem solved Did hardSPL and Radio upgrade but I think it wasn't by this coz it had nothing to do with sound quality ..may be all i needed was a hard reset which was done automatically when hard SPL upgrade was done..thanks to all
Is there a tool to reduce bass ? I have Audio Booster, but people says it has bug...so is there different tool ?
I got coreplayer, but there is no way to reduce bass in equalizer..Thanks
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By old audio player bug means what?i don't understand.. Is there a new audio player upgrade available..if their is a new audio upgrade which solve these problems then can you point me to the right direction..your FM radio sound is too low mine is perfectly OK ..might be due to poor signal..and besides i have mention its not only the internal audio player but coreplayer and pocket tunes 4.1 too
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Hi
I've experienced something similar:
Tinny sound (no bass) hard reset everything fine.
Restore my SPB clone (push mail, all my apps) tinny sound again.
Interstingly, calls via the headset are lovely and bassy but any audio application playing files sounds really tinny and quiet.
I suspect the new version of Schapps advanced config myself as it seems to have started around the time I installed it and made my first change of some of the settings.
QUESTION: What settings in Schapps advanced config or Diamond Tweaks might I have missed? Are there any registry keys that I can delete to restore all the sound to default?
Yours
Leon
"People of Judea, Wome is your fwiend"
there's a work around for this that involves
Plugging in your headphones (vital!)
Closing Windows Media (or any other player)
Going to Audio Booster
Turn off Audio Booster
Start player - sound back to normal (sourced from Modaco)
Yours
Leon
It is noticed that while listening through headphones that the sound is being affected by some sort of 3D/spacial/EQ process that might give the impression of "punch" for movies but at the expense of phase-y sounding vocals and smeared high notes for music.
Yikes. Thst stuff is not good for music quality. No way to turn off? The settings options seems kind of scarce.
After playing around with various music players and headphones it seems that the audio is now OK.
Not sure what happened. It may have been a headphone jack issue. Audio sounds great now.
Oooops!
There is an issue with sound quality. Compared it to a Rockbox'ed Sandisk Clip Zip with a very wide stereo track 2-channel stereo track (fyi -- Brook Benton's "Kiddio" 1960). There is some EQ bast boost and high frequency crossfeed that narrows the stereo separation. I'm going to boot from CM and see if the problem persists.
For video I would not notice the issue, but could get to me listening to music with my Klipsch S4 buds.
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It is not bad. Seems part of the issue is low gain which can be increased with Volume+ or other similar app function.
Volume+ did the trick for me. Jamming to some Coheed at the moment. Sounds as good as my other tablets now
The problem was never with volume -- I think stock has plenty of volume for driving Audio Technica ATH-900x. The problem is with some sort of audio processing that affects the soundstage and frequency response.
I am not hearing it using the Google player app. Gain is not the same as volume. Both need to correlate or weak quality.
SRS processing is used and applied at the headphone output. See HD+ file \system\etc\srs_processing.cfg
This is what I use, have my settings set to Jazz "my preference", audio sounds great, not talking about low resolution MP3's.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer
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SRS processing is used and applied at the headphone output. See HD+ file \system\etc\srs_processing.cfg
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I understand the config issue, but I am not hearing it. I should hear the sound manipulation with cymbal decay as example, but not hearing it. Weird.
Playback in CM 10.1 has the correct stereo image.
so am I
so am I ,after checking