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T-Mob free internet???

Hi! I bought a vario II second hand and I sticked a t-mob brand new payg sim. I register it and topped up with my credit card and only used for internet ever since! now I have been surfing like mad and downloading at least 300mb and my balance still £4.99p how can it be possible? I live in london if some one want take a look to it

I'm guessing you're in for one hell of a bill coming your way eventually. Using data without having a data plan is billed at a ridiculously high amount.

I don't see how they can bill you when you're on PAYG but just don't take the p*** and hope noone notices
Smiffy.

pay as you go does have a data plan, its automatic, basically once you hit £1 thats it you dont get charged anymore that day, meant to be a 40mb limit, but my mates never had issues.
as for your not being charged, dunno about that one!

I'm about 600MB right now... and and my calling credit is now £3.95!!!! hell where my £1.05p went to? shall I phone up and complain? LOL

I've just registered and it's show this does any one understand this? look like I've got 10GB :-O Recent Use
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XTR5TEXT Remaining: 5 Events
Pre Pay Picture Messages Remaining: 5 Picture Messages
XTRBROWS Remaining: 9566845 Kb

I use this everyday. I have a T-Mobile PAYG and I connect it to my laptop for a broadband connection. as long as I'm not connected exactly at midnight it's fine. T-Mobile claim you can't do this, but I managed to download SQL Server 2005 SP2 (250MB) in one hit. I stay connected all day when I'm on customer sites and connect again when I get home.
And I can use my VOIP account (again T-Mobile say I can't) through it.

do you guys get HSDPA speeds or just 3g?

I get 3G. 10Mb connection with download speeds ranging from 42k - 120kb ps

your reply is a contradiction in terms

I have a May Monthly contract with T-Mobile, love it, can use web n walk to downloads loads and loads of movies on my laptop while i m on the move, usually download about 1GB a day.
The only problem with it is that they sstarted blocking ports which means you cannot use Intant messagin such as MSN and Yahoo!, have any of you's found a way to trick the port?

radii said:
your reply is a contradiction in terms
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Why? I thought 3G was the slower of the two.

solarromeo said:
I have a May Monthly contract with T-Mobile, love it, can use web n walk to downloads loads and loads of movies on my laptop while i m on the move, usually download about 1GB a day.
The only problem with it is that they sstarted blocking ports which means you cannot use Intant messagin such as MSN and Yahoo!, have any of you's found a way to trick the port?
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I can use MSN this way. I talk to my girlfriend in Mexico every day via MSN. We can use webcams with MSN on a T-Mobile connection too

I got no problems at all!!! I use MSN, Skype, and a VoIP program called voipstunt with no problems at all... I'm also looking to setup SJPHONE pda edition to my phone so I can make free interantional phone calls from the PDA it self using the 3G network, but i've not yet managed to work yet in this country (with T-mobile).

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Why? I thought 3G was the slower of the two.
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Yes you are correct, 3G is slower than HSPDA, i think he was referring to the 10Mb connection comment.
3G is only around 320Kb, HSPDA is around 1.8Mb

having trouble with HSPA in canada

okay, heres the issue. I've comfirmed many times that the data plan in canada from rogers/fido works with all wm devices. however, there seems to be a problem for shift to pick it up. any advice would help. i'm just asking on behalf of someone and plus, since i'm looking to get shift myself, would be nice to have this resolved. i think only the vista side is having trouble picking up the 3G network. anyone have the same problem or have already fixed it?

Follow Up
Hello Cheapjing,
Early this morning I spent 2 hours on phone with HTC to resolve the issue of Fido connection not working with HTC Shift on Vista side.
I was able to get a connection for 30 min, when I tried again today after Vista hibernated, I could not get the connection back.
I again spent 1 hour with HTC tech support, still no connection. HTC agrees I have right Fido settings, still cannot find solution.
I have read all the postings on XDA Developers and have tried all the info suggested:
using high performance battery mode and/or AC power
disabling weather and active sync to update automatically
reset snapview
connecting and disconnecting the modem
not using modem on/off in connection manager like HTC advises in manual
HTC did suggest that Fido may not support modem tethering, if this is the case, why did it work for 30 min.
I am in area with GPRS and EDGE, still should connect, runs very well in Snapview, connects to exchange server and gmail.
I will call Fido tomorrow and ask about tethering, my concern is their customer support do not allow customers access to technical support, they are becoming just like Rogers, crappy customer service.
If they do charge extra or do not support tethering, Fido has lost a new customer!!!

Tethering
Hi All,
I feel like I been taking a very long and challenging adventure with Fido.
After speaking to 2 customer support people and retention, I do have 100% assurance that Fido does support tethering and does not charge extra (I have 3 other customer service people advise me they do incl one supervisor)
Now, how can I get it to work, have 10 more days before 1st 15 days are up and I can cancel.
Dave

that seems odd. as far as i know it should work with no extra charge. i'm sure the best way to figure out is to call billing department or any department just be like, i'm calling wondering if i'm going over my minutes/data usage. that should pull up if there are extra charges on tethering. I'm 100% sure that there shouldnt be charges or they wouldnt have to charge that much for a data plan. If that was the case then they could have easily charge $20 and advoid having telus and bell stealing their customers.
well, with all aside, i just hope someone from this forum can help you to fix the problem with the 3g connection.

Data Plans
I think the Fido outsourced customer support has no clue what is offered and what is not included.
Once I spoke to Fido retention and he could verify that data plan included tethering, he was 100% certain after speaking to his technical support team.
I am guessing the outsourced team advise customers anytime it is not a Fido supported phone, nothing will work!!
As far as getting Fido running on Shift under Vista, I have waited 2 days for HTC Shift team to get back to me.
My last resort is hard reset of both snapview and Vista and start again.
I have 7 days from this Thursday to have Fido 3G working on Vista, if not, I will cancel Fido service.
Ever since I received this device, 3G was flakey on Vista even with AT&T in US.
Dave

Update
I think I have resolved the issue.
I liberated my Shift last week at same time I was trying to get Fido connection to work.
Part of the liberation process is a USB Tool that connects Snapview to Vista.
Once I enabled the tool, and made sure Internet Connection sharing was working, the Fido connection seems to work.
I will test today, if this works well, I am happy camper.
Dave

So I just wanted to post on my information..
I have a HTC TyTN II on Fido with tethered always on data/exchange push
i just got my HTC Shift, which I have on Rogers...
TyTN II running for about 6 months, NO issues with data, always on never any issues..
ive been using my shift for the past 6 hours HARDCORE and havn't had any issues with Rogers..
ONE funky thing I did know with the HTC Shift, is that with autoconfiguration it configures a proxy server... I have NO idea whos this is, or where its going but this could be causing issues...
only reason why i noticed it is cuz I had to configure my vpn.com apn to access my VPN server...

One more thing I want to add, is that I am ALWAYS usually on HSDPA.. I have coverage everywhere in my city...
rarely when im out of the city with low HSDPA coverage, it jumps back and forth... those are the only times Ive had issues with my TyTN II....
Wont even bother using internet when im in a "backandforth" zone...

great to hear that you got it up and running. which brings up another question, since its using wm side as a modem, how is the speed on hspa network? so tempted to get one myself however, still waiting till end of aug to strike some deals with fido

Speed is good, havn't done any tests so I can't come up with numbers, but its definatly usable...
I'm having a few issues with the way they designed the network sharing with the WM side, but thats a topic for another forum...

Performance
I am mainly in EDGE network.
My issues with network connection sharing was after I liberated my Shift.
My only 2 remaining issues are:
increase memory (no solution)
better battery life (waiting for Mugen Battery)
Zharick, did you get the 6GB plan, its a good deal.
Please note I was also able to connect via PDAnet with my Telus Touch, just does not work on Snapview.
Dave

Where are you that you only rock EDGE?
In Calgary, AB, I get pretty much FULL HSDPA coverage everywhere.
Just recently with me getting my shift I just upgraded to the 6GB plan... Lets see how it works out! Those plans are only eledgable to datacards, All my smurfing and dl'ing lately better be under the plan.. I donno if they use IMEIs to check or not...

6GB Data
I signed up for Fido 6GB plan, advised them I am using unlocked Windows Mobile device and they said OK. This plan supports tethering which is what Shift actually does.
I hate Rogers, I know Fido is owned by them, however this was best solution for me.
If I purchased CDMA version of Shift, neither Bell or Telus would allow it on their networks.
I would not pay the heavily marked up Rogers price, you can buy Shift for around $1300 on eBay.

Update
The dog has been shot!!!!!
on my 14th day with Fido, I called to again to make 100% sure tethering was covered after the retention rep told me it was.
Surprise, Surprise, tethering is not included in 6GB plan with Fido.
I sent an email to '[email protected]', according to Fido web site, he is VP Customer Service.
I have canceled the service, I think now my device is liberated, I may be able to use wifi from Vista side to update Snapview side of device.
I will go back to tethering HTC Telus device.
I guess $1,900 ARPU over 3 years is not worth keeping for Fido. Idiots!!!!!
The Fido service was convenient, however, I will not loose any sleep over it.
Cheapjing, if you have purchased the 6GB plan, have in writing that tethering is included in 6GB plan, Fido would not give me any assurances.
I have also emailed the story to Toronto Star, they have lots of horror stories regarding Bell and Rogers, now they can have a Fido horror story!!!!
I am guessing the Shift users in other countries are laughing their a%$es off at how backward Canadian wireless carriers are!!!
Good Luck

What is this about a Fido 6GB plan?
i thought most was 200MB for 100 bucks a month?

lmao, thats your issue right there!
That plan is only available with a 3 year contract, and also you are limited to a fido phone that was sold by fido to take advantage of it..
Thats not even a "real" data plan, its one of those SURF AS MUCH AS YOU WANT kinda thing...
to get your shift working, i suggest signing with rogers (i have 2 fido phones, and also a rogers sim card with a data plan, so thankfully i didn't have to get stuck with fido for my shift)
Rogers actually has a plan of REAL 6G for 100 bucks... Terms are your only aloud to use it with datacards, but thats kinda what rogers thinks cuz u cant pair it with a voice plan, which is fine (until voice gets hax0red)

$100 wow
What a rip off!
if this was for business and I could expense or write off no worries
for personal use I will tether my Telus touch with $15 unlimited data.
$30 [lus a voice plan was a stretch $100 way too much

Zhariak said:
lmao, thats your issue right there!
That plan is only available with a 3 year contract, and also you are limited to a fido phone that was sold by fido to take advantage of it..
Thats not even a "real" data plan, its one of those SURF AS MUCH AS YOU WANT kinda thing...
to get your shift working, i suggest signing with rogers (i have 2 fido phones, and also a rogers sim card with a data plan, so thankfully i didn't have to get stuck with fido for my shift)
Rogers actually has a plan of REAL 6G for 100 bucks... Terms are your only aloud to use it with datacards, but thats kinda what rogers thinks cuz u cant pair it with a voice plan, which is fine (until voice gets hax0red)
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$100 for a data plan, wow, I think it is a kind of ripoff. All these days I thought carrier providers in US are the biggest rippers, but now I feel they are second only compared to Canadian providers.
Thanks
--Ram--

Update
Even though I am not a Rogers fan, I called Rogers and asked about tethering and 6GB plan, they are OK with it. If you are only using for data, you can get a Manitoba number for $20/month and add the 6GB data.
I hope when the rubber hits the road, this will work.
Dave

Update
The Rogers seem to work well, I have 3G locally now and the modem works well on both Snapview and Vista.
I am having issues with the following:
sync errors with gmail in Snapview
sync error with POP account in Snapview
NewsGator cannot open IE links, getting error that it cannot find IE app which was loaded when I liberated Snapview
Live Search works well (too bad no Canadian content)
IE works well
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Proxy internet for HD2 on T-mobile?

My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick

When the HD2 launches it will have a required data pack just like all other windows, blackberry's and android devices currently do. If a discount is recieved on the device then the data pack (minimum $25/month) is required, paying full retail price is the only way not to have it. T-zones is no longer offered by itself for $5.99/month unless your plan is a grandfathered plan that supports it but would only be able to be used if the phone was purchased at retail.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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i use tmobile in uk if the proxy box is ticked my mail dosent load.

T-Mobile USA now uses the device IMEI for data plans
The proxy trick does not work anymore on Tmobile USA, they now use the phone's IMEI number to verify that the phone is on the correct data package. It works for about 24 hours now then when you try and access the internet you are sent to a screen to add the correct data package.

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-Mobile
I have T-mobile with the $5.99 T-Zones. I used it on the DASH and am now using it on a Touch VIVA. If I buy the HD2 from T-Mobile with no contract are they still going to force me to get a data plan or will my T-Zones stop working. I want to keep my T-Zones and may have to get an ulocked phone.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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I'm currently with AT&T and about to switch to T-mobile when the HD2 comes out. When I spoke to the T-mobile rep., (trying to get him to set me up on the cheap data plans instead) He told me T-mobile can tell what phone you are using and know if it is on the correct plan. He also stated that if the phone is unlocked then you can trick their systems into letting you keep your old plan. Now again, I dont know if this is true or not, I am about to switch...hopefully this month, I'll find out then.
With AT&T, I have an old data plan (unlimited internet, 1500 text, 200 MMS) and I pay $19.95/month. they have never made me change my data plan and I am using the Tilt2. If you go through the priemer business website to upgrade your phone, they dont give you the $50 discount and you get to keep your data plan unchanged....all other channels force the upgrade with an updated data plan. Again, the only way around that is to buy your phone from someone else, unlocked, or have warranty dept. swap out your phone for a different model. My nephew has the $10 data plan and is now using the Tilt2 on it via warranty swapping out his phone for a different model (the Tilt2).
I know on the AT&T service you do get the 3g speeds, so I assume it will be the same for T-Mobile (but then again assuming may not be the best way to go). Hope that helped

I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?

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I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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from what I was told, everything should work correctly and at the correct speed, as long as the phone is unlocked. The cell phone service providers don't seem to really offer different speeds at different rate plans like the cable internet companies do.

I had not seen your message from earlier ... we posted at the exact same time. Thanks though for your input. I will let her know. It seems like it is worth a try. Worst case scenario, she has a great phone but she has to use Wifi to check her mail and such.

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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every other site works u can download email via direct site.then i noticed o2 network has its proxy unticked so when i was using tmobile i unticked it.now i can download email auto.
there was on promotional offer in uk.£10 top up u get unlimited txt and web.i used it on my htc shift as modem for a few months tmobile has no complained about going over fair usage policy on web unlike other networks.

Can I use $9.99 interent plan on my HD2?

Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?

Doubtful and if you are going to get a discount on the phone you need to get the $30 data plan.

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Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?
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No I don't think you can. You could even call t-mobile and ask them. Or are you trying to see if you could sign up with that data plan without them knowing its for your HD2? lol

it worked with my n900 but my hd2 could only get an edge connection with apn internet2.voicestream.com. epc.tmobile.com didn't work at all.

25$ here...but yeah the $10 will be a waste as it will be utterly slow and I doubt it will work properly.
The plans are all correlated to the OS, i.e. blackberry uses the BB internet plan, android the android plan, and WM the WM plan

yes you can use it.
you have to set the apn to wap.voicestream.com or epc.tmobile.com

I don't know about that, but there is a new $20 plan. It is for smartphones, but says "Preferred Smartphone Unlimited Web Only". I changed to this the other day and don't see any diffence from the $30 plan.

Of course you can use it; you're experience will be different however.
You will not be able to fully browse the web except when clicking on web2go links. You will not be able to watch mobiTV, use the barnes and nobles link or use any other data-related resources under this plan.
You can still use voice+SMS; it will continue to function as normal.

Yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3G speed, i will be 2G speed.
just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
works on everything. mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and B&B download just fine

well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.

using the $5.99 T-zone and works just fine, webbrowsing, utube, gmap,... you name it. For $6, I can't complain about the speed.

Yep...I concur with the last two posters, T-Zones ($5.99) plans works fine with the HD2. In fact, it worked right out of the box, no configuration at all was needed on my part. The $9.99 plan should work the same.

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well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.
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I am on the same plan and have no problems using anything. As matter of fact my tzones is 5.99.....The only issue I have is having a 3G connection consistently.....

Same here 5.99 t-zones working fine I usually get consistent 3g connections.

Besides, depending on where you are the $30 doesn't give you 3G either. I get a beautiful Edge (and a spotty one at that) connection at home (mind you I live in the middle of Miami, FL).

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yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3g speed, i will be 2g speed.
Just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
Works on everything. Mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and b&b download just fine
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i know am dumb but can you please help me exactly wht to do use 9.99 internet plan to work on my htc hd2, like a brief instruction step by step, it would be big help
thnkx

Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan

Do you have to unlock the phone for Web2go to work ?

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Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan
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Could you tell me how did u go about signing up for the t-zone? I can't seem to find it on their website.Thanks

I just tired the other day and i was told it's no longer available. You have to get the Web2go ($9.99/month) plan.

Replacement for Slide

I've had it with this piece of ****. I'm on my 3rd Slide and STILL have "Generic Network Failure"s when trying to send or receive MMS, get "Unable to send message, retrying" with 3 god damn bars of service when trying to send an SMS sometimes, lose my E and 3G data connection all the time even though T-Mo says I should get a good 3G connection. So, what is something comparable to this? Has to be Android. T-Mo wants to send me a Blackberry something or other, and I have no interest at all in that.

There gonna try to send you something comparable. What they think is comparable is whether or not you have a keyboard or not, not what OS your current phone has. If you complain enough you may be able to get a Vibrant but odds are against you. Threaten to leave and that may help.

Firsr and most importantly have you tried setting the phone to 3G only? Also Making sure you have the correct data plan (its slide specific not android..stupid tmo) and making sure no app or anything is messing with apns?

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Firsr and most importantly have you tried setting the phone to 3G only? Also Making sure you have the correct data plan (its slide specific not android..stupid tmo) and making sure no app or anything is messing with apns?
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Que? There are different data plans? Yea, I've tried setting it to 3g only. The problem with that is I barely get a signal in my house. All the APNs are what they should be, none of those settings has changed. The odd part is on each of the phones, I have had my apps installed on day one, and the thing works fine for a couple of weeks, then I start having these problems out of the blue.

i started having issues a few weeks ago in my area, i had awesome data speeds when i connected, but 9/10 times i would get half of the page loaded and then it would hang which meant resetting my data connection or rebooting the phone or any number of other fixes. i have the advantage of working at a t-mo store and was able to pull up the map of my area and see that they were working on my tower at home and as of a few days ago my connection is 6-7mbps down and solid as hell, i used to go to bread co to use wifi but tethering is faster now(and more convenient, and i don't have to worry about a firewall)

did you try a new simcard?

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Que? There are different data plans? Yea, I've tried setting it to 3g only. The problem with that is I barely get a signal in my house. All the APNs are what they should be, none of those settings has changed. The odd part is on each of the phones, I have had my apps installed on day one, and the thing works fine for a couple of weeks, then I start having these problems out of the blue.
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yes theres a slide specific data package. Im sure you have it if it works for the most part but yea the android data package will not work supposedly. and of course theres the sidekick package blackberry etc

The slide package is 5 dollars more. I was originally signed up for it but I called in and got it switched. The dataplan works fine, I wish I could say as much for the phone. My third replacement will be here this week...
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

My 4th replacement is in the mail right now. Tmobile offered me a blackberry 9700 to replace it, obviously I jumped all over that(insert sarcastic undertones).
I'm gonna wait for the HSPA+ phones to come out and maybe I can talk them into giving me one at full upgrade price, I would take the Vibrant, but I can't stand that phone. It only takes a few warranty exchanges and finding the right rep, and you can get whatever you want from tmobile.