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Future HTC Phones

Hi everyone,
I've had Orange M3100 (Hermes) phone for about a year now and loved it to bits (helped by the fact this site is a god send for customising!). However - my contract is coming to an end and I'm considering upgrading. It seems the only upgrade route I can really see is to a Kaiser. Thats not so much as an upgrade as just the same phone with a few new features. I've already upgraded my M3100 to WM6, I'm not that bothered in GPS that the Kaiser has, and the spec of the Kaiser is almost indentical to the Hermes.
So my question is - is there anything else in the pipeline from HTC that would be worth waiting for. I'd rather wait 3 or 4 months for a newer phone to come out if there was one available.
Anyone any idea....?

good question, im in pretty much the same preticament. only thing ive found really is the newer version of the touch, with the faster cpu +wifi etc, or maybe the touch cruise, but neither have hardware keyboard. not sure if i could cope without my keyboard

You could take a look at http://www.pdadb.net/ for some info on what's coming soon.

The Cruise looks nice, kinda like a keyboardless kaiser

Yeah - my partner has just got a HTC Touch and it looks nice but I couldn't do without the keyb. That counts out the Touch Cruise as well.
Guess I'll hold onto my M3100 and see what turns up next year

thenoble06 said:
So my question is - is there anything else in the pipeline from HTC that would be worth waiting for. I'd rather wait 3 or 4 months for a newer phone to come out if there was one available.
Anyone any idea....?
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You need to work out what you want on your new device? I have considered the Polaris as the keyboard on the Kaiser looks, um, fragile...
Good Luck
Elwyn

Dev's bored with the HD?

Is it just me or have the major players in the Touch HD ROM Section given up and moved onto newer handsets now? Miri, Dutty etc...

I am also thinking in the same way as you, no body is contributing much toward the HD now a days. At least Android is required for our HDs to enjoy it a little further.

i think they have but it doesnt matter because every chef as multiple good roms to use for daily base
and some are upgraded to newest things that still are in beta but work quite well on oure blackstones
and its quiet from htc/windows side

Duttythroy doesn't post on XDA anymore. He moved to a new website http://htcpedia.com/
On thuesday he released his latest ROM, the "Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R3". Haven't tried though

Dutty's new rom is nice enough Miri is on vacation until Monday & promises new roms from the newer builds.

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Is it just me or have the major players in the Touch HD ROM Section given up and moved onto newer handsets now? Miri, Dutty etc...
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well (sadly 4 us ) many of the good devs have multiple devices, and since HTC is puching out like 5 devices each year or more, its natural the would upgrade, myself feel an urge, been looking at the hero, but i am afraid the android launch will leave me bored from not being able to flash in the same way i think miri have a rhodium, i know dutty have a topaz and so on, so since the rhodium and topaz owners can benefit more, i think we lose out some but hey, the HD is getting quite old anyway so maybe we should all just move on
that new LEO device with 1gig processor seem very attractive.....

Where is onkolg?

my guess is our dev are waiting for the official release of wm6.5!

patience guiessssssssssss!!
btw i dont want to move on! THD form factor is perfect. no other phone would be an "upgrade" for me right now

imranmaz said:
patience guiessssssssssss!!
btw i dont want to move on! THD form factor is perfect. no other phone would be an "upgrade" for me right now
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Maybe a Touch HD 2

Throy is still extremely active on the HD. He's just released R4 Leo. Miri is currently on holiday and still active, as are NRG to name a few. So its not over yet!
Throy only has the Touch HD & Touch Diamond 2, think I'll wait and see where all the big names go before I make a decision on what device to choose. For the time being I'm content

To each his own, but for me personally, the only thing I can consider an upgrade would be the Leo. I'm a flashing junky and it saddens me that I have to keep a rom for longer than a week, but all my fave devs aren't releasing new ones as often as they used. Oh well... I guess I better get a girlfriend to partially fill this void

but i guess roms calm down once there is a sable wm build and touchflo.
i really want to see leaks of wm7... i think i'm going to keep my HD for another year then move to LEO 2

I guess people get bored when the phone has been around for some years, I got pretty bored of my Diamond very fast, 2 months after I bought it I bought a Topaz.
Even if the HD is old and outdated (I HATE Manila 2.5/2.6, I won't upgrade for a long time) it's still a great phone to listen to music and watch movies on. It got everything I would ask for except a camera flash.

In addition to that ... what NEWER devices they could move to ? Come on, HD is the best Until Leo comes at least

kwbr
Hey guys, dont forget kwbr!
This guy is still regularly turning out what is, in my opinion at any rate, some of the best ROMs for the HD.
(check it out for yourselves - ROM name = Topix)
LL

I think onkolog might be caught up with studying for the boards (medical licensing) or in internship.

You just have to have patience. A lot of chefs throw out roms quite consistently, but once their roms become stable, output slows. This is enevitable until another build is leaked.

swap hero with htc touch hd

brand new looking htc touch hd with whole loads of give program like tomtom navigator, coreplayer and every big program with latest upgraded 6.5 rom if any one wants to swap with htc hero
yes ofcourse unlocked htc touch hd plz do PM.
and yes in U.K

???
don't mean to be negative, BUT
you don't actually think someone would make this trade,,,,,,,, do you?
good luck !

I have a piece of string, slightly used. Anyone want to swap for Hero?

get your htc touch on ebay £270 easy for one of them and put the rest to a hero.
Or wait til some clever barsteward ports android to the htc.

Still worth buying this??

Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
I have seen some new models of htc but they are a bit expensive here. This one goes for 250€ but i'm afraid it's a bit "old". Please if you can give me your opinion about this issue.
Back from............the end of the world.
becosemsaida

Yes it is worth it. It still runs all the latest OS etc. I'm glad I bought mine a few months ago. The HD is a good all round performer, and like you say the other devices around that are better/newer are a lot more expensive. When you can get most the features of the HD2 on the HD for half the price, why not buy the HD. That's the way I see it anyways. The price you stated does sound a bit much though, I'm sure you could get it much cheaper on ebay, but this could just be down to the crappy exchange rate here against the Euro.

stuntdouble said:
Yes it is worth it. It still runs all the latest OS etc. I'm glad I bought mine a few months ago. The HD is a good all round performer, and like you say the other devices around that are better/newer are a lot more expensive. When you can get most the features of the HD2 on the HD for half the price, why not buy the HD. That's the way I see it anyways. The price you stated does sound a bit much though, I'm sure you could get it much cheaper on ebay, but this could just be down to the crappy exchange rate here against the Euro.
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Thanks for your reply. Since e-bay is out of the question because many of them don't ship out of their country and i also don't have a pay-pal account it doesn't leave much choise. I have seen the site and i know it's a lot cheaper but still not an option for me. I see that according to users the HD can (almost) do the same as the HD2 and i think i will go for it. Would like to have other opinions though.......
becosemsaida

I purchased my blackstone last week after trading in my hero. The hero was a nice handset, i just didn't think android "was all that". I don't think the functionality of android is great, even 2.1. However i am running a the lastest blackstone henge rom on my device and i think its great.
The internal specification of the blackstone is the same as the hero if i'm correct and the hero is a relatively new device in comparison. Don't get eaten up by the snapdragon ghz band wagon, the touch hd still holds its own and imo is a great alrounder.
What requirements do you have for a handset when you look at buying one?

The HD is pretty good still, but a bit slow, and always was, for that sort of money I'd be inclined to buy a new acer S200 now and get the fastest Wm device available, very similar to the HD and are apparently very easy to flash other roms on to if the acer one is buggy.
Despite my disappointing experience with an F900, I would still be prepared to give them another try, I've had bad experiences with HTC and HP branded HTC's also.

Yes, HD is still front runner, specially if you find cooked ROM which has what you like.
And there's plenty of cooked ROMs, and more than half of them are still developing...
Price of 250 € is nice one, if device is really good preserved.

becosemsaida said:
Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
becosemsaida
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I can't comment on the price but I just bought one (t8285) on Ebay for 450 US precisely for the reason that a) I've never had one and didn't like the bulk of the Rhodium and b) there's an EnergyRom for it
The Telstra versions are rare in the US but work on the 850 range which is ATT's 3g band. I wanted to see if I could live without a keyboard and didn't want to pony up the big bucks to get an HD2 for Telstra until I signed off on the soft keyboard.
If you can afford it and find one you like I don't think you can go wrong. It's not the latest and greatest but it is a strong contender.

Bodisson said:
Yes, HD is still front runner, specially if you find cooked ROM which has what you like.
And there's plenty of cooked ROMs, and more than half of them are still developing...
Price of 250 € is nice one, if device is really good preserved.
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i agree with this !! this is my second hd i was planning to move over to the hd2 but i was way to big for what needed so i go one with the hd2 engery rom... as its just Ace...

The only bad part of it is Microsoft abandoning WM
Yes, I've seen some used ones in Ebay for $200 - $250. The Touch HD has everything (big screen, WiFi, GPS, FM radio, G-sensor, 5 mpix camera). It's a lot of hardware for that price.
Of course it runs Windows Mobile, which is dying right now. Sooner or later you'll have to move to Windows Phone 7 (vade retro) / iPhone / Android.
Any app you use (or God forbid, purchase) for Windows Mobile will not be transferable to any other phone in the future. Ask the developers if they will port the app and to what platforms.
You have a very good WM 6.1 ROM from KWBR, and a lot of WM 6.5 ROMs. I've used a few of them and am currently running a WM 6.5 with Manilla 2.5 and Opera 10.

becosemsaida said:
Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
I have seen some new models of htc but they are a bit expensive here. This one goes for 250€ but i'm afraid it's a bit "old". Please if you can give me your opinion about this issue.
Back from............the end of the world.
becosemsaida
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Why dont get the mini HD?? it's about that price too?? got similar specs, in fact improved, and I think capacitive screen too?

Lets press the Company HTC! For old devices upgrade.

Do someone know when HTC will give out a new htc hd (blackstone) rom? maybe with colour Manila TAB. or something like that.
Because the stock rom is the fastest and most stabile ROM, I think! BUT not a pretty ROM, like the Manila 2.5 and W6.5**. It just need a OVERHAUL!
I think we can have W6.1 with... Manila 2.4 maybe hehe. not as fancy but cooler then Manila 2.1
LET's press the HTC, because they think everyone ****t money to buy a new device every month or week!
im happy with my HTC HD, but i think HTC has forget about us old-device-user! and they come out with upgrade to other "new" devices, but i want somthing to, somthing cool. and if xda and our worlds best developers can, then the htc company with the tecnologi can do it to! wtf i think, crapy done by htc! i have sent 1000 of mails too them and they keep say " dont know" then why do u work at support for god f###.. or? feks. the stock HD ROM have the ugly keybord, i want the new one on a stock rom.. so!
Sorry for my english =P but u guys understand what i meen!

Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.

Wiggz said:
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.

jenotc said:
Me too ....... I really would appreciate some stock rom, that would have qualities of Duttys rom with Co0kie Home Tab and CHTEditor versatility.
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thats what I really mean!! Stock rom with qualities of our chief would be the best for HTC HD Cheers!

Wiggz said:
Good Luck with that - Whilst I share your frustration that those who keep faith with Stock ROMs aren't rewarded with updates, the fact is that with the sheer amount of devices that HTC currently release year on year, the odds that some of it's back catalogue will get any such update are quite small.
I eventually gave in and flashed an XDA/Cooked ROM.
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I have flashed xda cooked ROM, but our chiefs have stoped building ROMS with WM6.1, and manilla 2.1. And I prefer the speed and the stability of the WM6.1 and manilla 2.1.

Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.

hatkeeper said:
Answer is no, and that is just the nature of business
There are too many new devices out there that they are focusing on (and still have issues), just to name a few, HD2, Nexus One, Desire...
Actually I don't mind them doing so, but at least make it easier for outsiders to access info on older chipsets (MSM), which to me is the main hurdle to maximize performance on the phones.
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ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh

erich900 said:
ok, ur right now as i thinking, but.. WHY! do everyone want WM6.5? is stil laggy after some use, at the begining its WOW cool and fast, stable, but after 2-3 weeks its starts to be slow. so, why not make the 6.1 even better and faster + new design ( manila 2.5) tabs? the rest dont have to be as "cool" as htc hd2 (leo) i allways use the kwbr topix rom, but im dont going from his rom topix 3.5 wwe =D anyway, his new rom topix 3.6 or somthing, is it wm 6.1 or 6.5? heh
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u know why? because it takes effort to do software development, you need more people to support two platforms than one. It would have been nice if htc just upgrade/tweak manila 2.1 to 2.5. but from general use, you know that's not the case, as they behave differently (functionality is the same).
So why is this decision made? Could be many reasons, maybe feature, flexibility wise, 2.1 is just not good enough for the future, who knows?
For sure htc is not going to work on 2.1 & 2.5 to acheive the same goal, even though its for different phones, sadly in this industry the upgrade cycle is 6 months to 1 year (just like computers). I am not try to bash on the company, but take a guess which htc phone is at top quality in user experience (hardware & software) at release, and have good upgrades/support after 2 years. When you hang around xda long enough, you will know

ok, i understand now! HTC HD is dead. the company is thinkig about new phones. but if ill buy HTC Desire HD, do i have to keep installing coocked rom's frome here? The HTC Desire is not getting the "new" htc sense, ( htcsense.com) why? its so lalala stupid, look at the xp,vista and win 7. only new design, but u still have internett explorer and other stuff, i dont care about the design, only about nice updats.
thats why i dont like htc loonger, the forget about our phone after 5 months.

Pff, it's useless asking for updates for old HTC devices. They launch a dozen of phones every year. Their goal is to sell the new devices and earn money, not update the old ones for free. I use HTC Touch HD and i haven't seen any official updates on their site, except for some bug fixes and an official ROM which does nothing more than my preinstalled ROM. Haven't checked the updates for other HTC devices, but it's obviously they didn't give a damn about HTC Touch HD immediately after its release.